Fleeting Quiver  

 

Answered my own question and its no only arrows in quiver and that sucks oh well

No. Arrows that are derived from a weight reducing quiver give bow haste. (Weight reduction divided by 3 equals bow haste). So using arrows that come from this bag give you 20 percent bow haste. Arrows that are fired that come from an ordinary weight reduction container do not give haste to your bow.

My guess it adds about 20% haste...below is all the work done :) hehee
Ok I did the math based on EQ equation of haste. delay / 1+haste % .... which in this case is 28 delay 41% haste and X% haste. 28/1.41 =19.858.... Now to figure out shots per min you divid 60 by delay/10. in this case if would be 60/ 2.8 =21 :)
41% haste and 28 delay should give you 30 shots.
There are caps for haste based on your lvl so I'm guessing this guy went over that :)
It is impossible to know you got a half shot in without knowing the haste on the quiver btw :)
Taking off 6 from delay would of gave 27 shots.
20% haste = about 25 shots.
24.5 shots = 13% haste.
41% plus 12.5% = about 35 shots
24.5% haste = 28 shots aka 21.42 delay
22 delay = 2.2 seconds so can't get 1 shot off per second with that delay(post lower down)

Like Twigen's post below, I also have used the parser to compare fire rate with and without this quiver. I am a 65 ranger with AM3 and EQ. The effect was about 20% or so. I think it may be a straight 6 off the delay (the 60% weight reduction = 6 reduction in delay). But since most bows are around a 35 dealy anyway, the difference between 20% and a flat 6 is going to be very hard to measure.
I can also assure you that it is apparentin raids. When I am standing next to another 65 ranger, with the same bow and same buffs, I fire faster than a char without the fleeting quiver.

IMO, a MUST have item for an EQ/AM3 ranger.

I just put one on my level 25 Shadow Knight and I have observed a noticable decrease in the delay when shooting arrows. I have not timed anything yet to give you specific numbers but it is noticeable.

If you have the Fleeting Quiver in your inventory then it dosent matter where the arrows are in your inventory as they will ALL have the same weight reduction (haste) based on your quiver. You can even check this using a full 100% weight reduction bag and then a regular backpack and moving the arrows from one to another will have NO effect on your weight. Hope this helps.

Tad

don't get me wrong, but thats just log time, which like chat time is often barely in-sync with the game, did the DPS reflect the haste ? I am not disputing it, with a name like fleeting it should be faster, but how does WR = Haste if you are below the encumbrance cap ? Confused in Norrath :)

Yes, this is still the best quiver in the game: 20% bow haste.

EQ just a game?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I've spent several thousand hours living in EQ. I don't consider it just a game as many people also don't. BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!

Yeah, at 105 skill you'll only have a 5% chance of success.

If you decide to skill up making Wu's armour to 158, you'll then have a 43% chance of success on the fleeting quivers.

If you skill all the way up to 210 you will reach a 95% chance of success on the fleeting quivers, which is the highest possible.

So you should probably either skill up to at least 158 first or find a more skilled tailor to do the combines for you. You might be able to find a tailor around 190-220 range that would do the combines for free, since each combine will give him a shot at a skill-up, which tend to cost either a lot of plat or a lot of time at that level.

Okay, i looked over your formulae extensivley and there was always somthing glaringly wrong.

100% haste = attacking 2x as much. or HALVING the delay of a weapon.

so if your Blessed Faydwer Thunderbolt has a delay of 38, after adding 100% haste, it would have a delay of 19.

You state that with 44% haste, you have a 22 delay.. well, youd be chopping off more than 44% of that delay. MUCH more.

heres the formula for haste -

D/(1 + H) = X

D is your Delay
H is your % haste in decimal form
X is your new delay.

Remember, % is just based off of the number 1. 100% = 1, 50% = .5, 25% = .25 etc.

Then you DIVIDE your beginning Delay by your sum!

heres an example.

We'll Take your Blessed Faydwar Thunderbolt with a delay of 38, and youre wearing a FBSS. (we wont add in quivers yet).

D / (1 + H) = X

Plug in our numbers

38 / (1 + .21) = X

Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally (come on, that should get a laugh!)

38 / (1.21) = X

31.4 = X

so 31.4 is your new delay.

now lets throw in a quiver to the mix, we'll use your sash of the dragon born, and your fleeting quiver.

D / (1 + H) = X
D / (1 + (.24 + 20)) = X
D / (1 + (.44) = X
D / (1.44) = X
26.38 = X

Your new delay on your belssed thunderbolt is 26.38, NOT 21.28

To ACHIEVE a delay of 21.28 youd need a much faster delay! and just cus i was bored, heres the haste youd need along side all the math that showed me how i got it!

Using my above formula --

D / (1 + H) = X

We'll plug in our knowns, we know the Delay of the weapon, and the new delay after haste is applied, were trying to find out the haste itself, so lets solve for H. (this is much easier shown on paper where i can show where i have fractions, basically think of all "/"'s as fractions.

38 / (1 + H) = 21.28

Multiply both sides by (1 + H)/1

38 = 21.28/1 * (1 + H)/1

Multiply the right side

38 = 21.28 + 21.28H

Subtract 21.28 from both sides

16.72 = 21.28H

Divide both sides by 21.28

.78 = H

your answer is 78% haste.

so to have a 21.28 delay with a 38 delay weapon, you need to have 78% haste total.

***NOTE*** Contrary to what this shows, i AM bad at math, lol. Took me a while to solve for H. but i assure you, this is correct ***NOTE***

Quivers aren't explicitly haste items. They affect bow delay only. I've heard this explained several ways. It's suppose to reduce arrow drawing delay, which in turn speeds up the rate you shoot arrows. It gives a haste of 1/3 the weight reduction, so 60% WR gives 20% haste bow delay as compared to just over 7% with the tailored quivers.

I guess you can think of it as being able to draw and nock your arrows faster if they are lighter. =) I haven't quantified this myself, but I have noticed a slight speed improvement in my bow using the tailored quiver.

Standard "Tailored Quiver" trivials at 115. The "Fleeting Quiver" trivials at 222 according to www.eqtraders.com

Just because it doesn't have the EFFECT:haste listed doesn't mean it's not a haste item, goober.

haste ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hst)
n.
1. Rapidity of action or motion.
2. Overeagerness to act.
3. Rash or headlong action; precipitateness.

intr. & tr.v. hast·ed, hast·ing, hastes
To hasten or cause to hasten.

Idiom:
make haste
To move or act swiftly; hurry.

The quiver IS a haste item. Your delay between shots is lower, therefore you shoot faster. Just like any haste item makes your delay between melee swings lower.

It was posted before and I'm tracking down the post as it was stated.

The benefit of a WR quiver is 10% of the WR is subtracted from the bows delay POINTS. Fleeting Quiver of 60%WR reduces bow delay by 6 POINTS. Stackable with haste items, spells & songs. The first reference of the benefits is in the developers corner forum on 7/30/2001 with the title "Quivers" or something like that.

HtH,
K

*edit* - Quivers only affect BOW delays and the top-left most quiver WR is used.

Edited, Mon Dec 9 16:28:32 2002

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The WR of a quiver is the EXACT AMOUNT of haste given. 60 WR= 60%haste not 1/3 of the WR.

Adiien Leafblade
55th Season Outrider
Maelstrom

Actualy, quivers don't give percentage haste. Instead they reduce the delay of the bow. 10% weight reduction is equal to 1 delay reduction. Depending on the bow this could be trivial or significant. Basicaly, the faster the bow is the more you'll notice the quiver.
And yes, you still get a benifit from 1 item haste and 1 spell haste (and 1 bard haste).

Meirril, Fennin Ro

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Edited, Fri May 3 09:03:26 2002

With quivers Weight reduction % = Haste %

Its bow haste only as well.

It is made by taking two sapphires and a regular poison vial (not lined or sealed) and having a higher up level enchanter cast the appropriate spell i believe it is called distill mana. most enchanters will do it for free some might ask for something in return. Sapphires best price is 105pp each and the posion vials can be found in west karana sold by gildin toxfodder for a few gold. can also be made by players with appriate poterry skill

Wis has no effect on successes of combines, only for skilling up.

Higher of Wis or Int is used for skilling up.
Dex is secondary for tailoring and fletching.
Str above 185 is secondary for smithing.

The only thing that affects success is your SKILL in that trade. That's why you try to raise it...

Check out the FAQs on www.eqtraders.com message board for an email from Verants trade skill developer if you need to check the validity.

I talked to one of my friends and he says the the weight reduction of the quiver is also the percent that it lowers your delay. if you are right then what percent does the tailored quiver lower bow delay by?