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WT: 0.4 Weight Reduction: 60%
Capacity: 6 Size Capacity: MEDIUM
Item Type:Container
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:98 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
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Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008


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Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 1

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Monks
# Jan 27 2006 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Question....Can monks put darts in quiver and get the same haste effect or can darts even be put into a quiver?
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RE: Monks
# Jan 28 2006 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Answered my own question and its no only arrows in quiver and that sucks oh well
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Weight reduction
# Nov 19 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Why not put the arrows in a 100 percent weight reduction bag...would that have the same effect?
RE: Weight reduction
# Nov 19 2005 at 10:00 PM Rating: Decent
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No. Arrows that are derived from a weight reducing quiver give bow haste. (Weight reduction divided by 3 equals bow haste). So using arrows that come from this bag give you 20 percent bow haste. Arrows that are fired that come from an ordinary weight reduction container do not give haste to your bow.
RE: Weight reduction
# Dec 31 2008 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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That's not quite exactly accurate. As long as the Fleeting Quiver (or any weight reducing quiver) is in inventory the Ranger's bow haste will apply, even if the arrows don't come from the quiver. At least that's how it worked a few months ago last time I tested. If I recall correctly the quiver didn't even have to be equipped, it could simply sit in one of the 8 inv slots, but I'm not 100% sure on that. I'll test it next time I find a HQ Lion Skin.

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AHHHHHHHH
# Apr 20 2005 at 9:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Whats up with all the math!!!! Just get one u can see that u shot faster with it. AHHHHHHHHH!
Timed Shots per min.
# Oct 20 2004 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I went to Gfay and locked in on Nexus Scion and timed myself for 1 minute sets, here were my result from using Turret Keeper's bow with 28 dly.

With quiver out of inventory and no other haste on me i fire away 21 shots per min.

With quiver on me.
Fired away 24.5 shots

W/o quiver but with 41% haste Fearsome Girdle fired off 28 arrows.

With quiver and haste on i fired off 34 arrows.
As a warrior the quiver isnt very justifiable except the rare chance i'd bow kite say an Ice Giant but that eats up arrows w/o those ranger crits ( i still have Blood of Ranger flowing thru me i love archery). I sold mine to gain back storage room of the 10 slot bag it had replaced so in my opinion it was only good for Kiting or circumstances where you could chisel away on mobs for a longer durations.
RE: Timed Shots per min.
# Feb 28 2005 at 10:49 PM Rating: Decent
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My guess it adds about 20% haste...below is all the work done :) hehee
Ok I did the math based on EQ equation of haste. delay / 1+haste % .... which in this case is 28 delay 41% haste and X% haste. 28/1.41 =19.858.... Now to figure out shots per min you divid 60 by delay/10. in this case if would be 60/ 2.8 =21 :)
41% haste and 28 delay should give you 30 shots.
There are caps for haste based on your lvl so I'm guessing this guy went over that :)
It is impossible to know you got a half shot in without knowing the haste on the quiver btw :)
Taking off 6 from delay would of gave 27 shots.
20% haste = about 25 shots.
24.5 shots = 13% haste.
41% plus 12.5% = about 35 shots
24.5% haste = 28 shots aka 21.42 delay
22 delay = 2.2 seconds so can't get 1 shot off per second with that delay(post lower down)


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#Huski, Posted: May 30 2004 at 5:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok...I have to post this....I play on Tarrew-Marr and as of late there is 1 particular vendor that is going out of they're way to try rip peeps off. They are actually trying to sell the skins for 8k and the Quiver for 10k!!! DONT BUY IT! There is no Haste on this item...I have used one for a while on my Ranger and there is no difference other than weight reduction! You would have an easier time getting your Tailoring skills up ..getting the skin and making it. ....lol maybe ill start farming it again and flooding the market with 4 or 5k Fleeting quivers as they used to be before the rip-off artists moved in to TM.
#lostet, Posted: Sep 30 2004 at 10:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) God i hate noobs like huski, saying bull like that to lower prices lol. truth is, is the high q lion skin is incredibly rare. it, like giant farming, is a thing of the past. trackers that use to and could have farmed them now have 2-3 times faster ways of making platinum, not to mention they are level 12 mobs or something. there is no reason for ppl to hunt them anymore, and those that do eventualy get one have spent a long long time doing it and deserver the 5k+ that the quiver can bring in.
RE: Careful what you buy!
# Aug 19 2004 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I sell the skins at 2.4k and the quivers are 4k, been on alot of servers and no server is cheapest or most expensive on anything. Simply depends what item is flooded in the bazaar. Amount of times i've seen traders sell something hideously high for another to come on undercut him by a few hundred plats and thinks he selling cheap befor you know it everyone is selling at that price.
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RE: Careful what you buy!
# Aug 23 2004 at 3:10 PM Rating: Default
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I sold a HQ Lion skin yesterday on Firiona Vie for 3K, where Fleeting Quivers go for 8K. You simply can't find HQ Lion Skins for sale in the bazaar. Maybe its because FV is a low pop server, but I'm the only person in NK I ever see hunting Highland Lions. The next HQ I get I'm going to try and sell it for 4K.

Anradan, 38th Season Ranger of Tunare
RE: Careful what you buy!
# Nov 16 2004 at 9:53 PM Rating: Default
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Heh, if you actually need one you are a ranger and have track. Just kill highland lions that are level nothing in NK until you get one and bug a GM tailor...

Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)
RE: Careful what you buy!
# Aug 02 2004 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Like Twigen's post below, I also have used the parser to compare fire rate with and without this quiver. I am a 65 ranger with AM3 and EQ. The effect was about 20% or so. I think it may be a straight 6 off the delay (the 60% weight reduction = 6 reduction in delay). But since most bows are around a 35 dealy anyway, the difference between 20% and a flat 6 is going to be very hard to measure.
I can also assure you that it is apparentin raids. When I am standing next to another 65 ranger, with the same bow and same buffs, I fire faster than a char without the fleeting quiver.

IMO, a MUST have item for an EQ/AM3 ranger.
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#sillicanica, Posted: Aug 23 2004 at 12:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Shhhhhh. You're talking again.
RE: Careful what you buy!
# Jul 01 2004 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
I just put one on my level 25 Shadow Knight and I have observed a noticable decrease in the delay when shooting arrows. I have not timed anything yet to give you specific numbers but it is noticeable.
Haste or no
# May 19 2004 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
This seems to be an eternal question, does the fleeting quiver provide haste or not. Well with the revamp of the information provided with the items, I would have to say that the only thing it provides is weight reduction. There is no mention of haste on it. It would be funny that this item would be the only haste item that does not mention it.

Had one, never saw a difference, sold it.

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# Mar 20 2004 at 10:36 PM Rating: Default
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Atm I am a 64 Ranger with Swiftwind <40% haste> and Fleeting quiver and I don't need math to know when quiver or swiftwind is not in inventory I shoot slower....... Yes it stacks with worn haste yes I know new patch doesn't say anything but why would you need weight reduction on an arrow only container think about it arrows don't weight jack just trust me get one and you'll see
#singdarra, Posted: Jan 30 2004 at 6:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if you got endless quiver. and you have 1 arrow in your ammo slot do you get haste or do the arrows have to be in the bag?
RE: OK newbie Question hehe
# Feb 03 2004 at 5:55 AM Rating: Good
If you have the Fleeting Quiver in your inventory then it dosent matter where the arrows are in your inventory as they will ALL have the same weight reduction (haste) based on your quiver. You can even check this using a full 100% weight reduction bag and then a regular backpack and moving the arrows from one to another will have NO effect on your weight. Hope this helps.

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How much
# Jan 08 2004 at 4:03 PM Rating: Default
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How much they sell for on the MM srever(methilein |Marr
How much
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How much they sell for on the MM srever(methilein |Marr
Bow Affect Parsed
# Nov 18 2003 at 12:46 PM Rating: Good
After reading all the arguments about what effect does this have on a bow, I figured I'd parse my log, calculating the delay from both hits and misses.

I am using swiftwind (40% haste)
Fleeting Quiver (CW says 20% bow haste)
Primal Velium Reinforced Bow (damage 33 delay 35)

Using the tried and true formula of FQ WR / 3 = 20% bow haste + 40% from swiftwind + 1=1.60
35/1.60=21.875

LOG PARSE RESULTS DELAY: 22

Case Closed.

Here's a snippet from 11/22 with the primal velium reinforced bow with spell haste as well:

[Sat Nov 22 07:13:39 2003] Your bow shot did double dmg.
[Sat Nov 22 07:13:39 2003] a fearsome planar specimen was hit by non-melee for 206 points of damage.
[Sat Nov 22 07:13:39 2003] You hit a fearsome planar specimen for 206 points of damage.
[Sat Nov 22 07:13:40 2003] Your bow shot did double dmg.
[Sat Nov 22 07:13:40 2003] a fearsome planar specimen was hit by non-melee for 182 points of damage.
[Sat Nov 22 07:13:40 2003] You hit a fearsome planar specimen for 182 points of damage.

Yes, that's 1 second between shots. So if you think the fleeting quiver doesn't contribute to bow firing rate, think again.

Edited, Sat Nov 22 11:20:47 2003
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RE: Bow Affect Parsed
# Mar 09 2004 at 6:55 AM Rating: Default
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don't get me wrong, but thats just log time, which like chat time is often barely in-sync with the game, did the DPS reflect the haste ? I am not disputing it, with a name like fleeting it should be faster, but how does WR = Haste if you are below the encumbrance cap ? Confused in Norrath :)
RE: Bow Affect Parsed
# Mar 12 2004 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, you're both right. The one second between shots is an anomaly of the logging. He calculated a haste-adjusted delay of 21.875. Since delay is measured in tenths of a second, that means it's actually 2.1875 seconds between shots.
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RE: Bow Affect Parsed
# Jun 23 2004 at 1:04 AM Rating: Default
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2.1875 with just the fleeting and swiftwind yes, read it again and you'll see he also said spell haste.
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Best Quiver?
# Nov 05 2003 at 11:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Changing the subject here, just wondering if this is the best quiver in the game for rangers still? Or are they others?
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RE: Best Quiver?
# Jan 26 2004 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, this is still the best quiver in the game: 20% bow haste.
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#dannynkim, Posted: Aug 29 2003 at 3:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I dont think any of you know. Since its not an effect on the quiver it makes it tough to know exactly what % it is, which explains 200 different explanitions on 200 different posts. Point being IT DOSENT MATTER. Does it make your bow faster, yes, so just leave it at that, and to the people who actually sit there with calculators and try to figure this out, you seriously need to unplug for a while. IT IS JUST A GAME.
RE: WOW
# Sep 18 2003 at 3:47 PM Rating: Default
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EQ just a game?!?!?!?!?!?!?! I've spent several thousand hours living in EQ. I don't consider it just a game as many people also don't. BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!
Wrong!
# Aug 17 2003 at 9:05 AM Rating: Default
Worn haste time DOES stack with quiver haste. Thanks alot bye.
what about endlessquiver
# Aug 15 2003 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
Does the quiver effect still hold true with endless quiver?
RE: what about endlessquiver
# Oct 12 2003 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
Yes, it does, i left my fleeting quiver in the bank once and have never done it again hehe
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RE: what about endlessquiver
# Nov 13 2003 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
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Endless Quiver does one thing.

It gives you an unlimited supply of the arrow you have equipped in your ammo slot. (If you have one fantastic arrow, and it takes a major effort to get it, with endless quiver when you shoot it, you don't actually lose the arrow in your ammo slot.)

Endless Quiver does not provide haste.

If you have the Endless Quiver AA, and put your fleeting quiver in the bank, you will NOT have the quiver's haste effect on your bow.

For this reason it is advisable to keep your fleeting quiver on you even when you have the Endless Quiver AA.
Endless quiver
# Jul 04 2003 at 10:23 AM Rating: Default
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No matter how yu look at it bow haste or quiver haste it all adds up to the same thing Yu shoot faster with the quiver then without and that is the bottom line

thank Yu :))0
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more on haste
# Jun 17 2003 at 11:00 PM Rating: Default
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Hey, this has to do with what some people were talking about several posts below about calculating the haste on your bow ...

umm regular haste items such as schw, fbss, etc. dont affect the delay on your bow at all. So there is nothing to add, u just use the haste on your quiver if u have one.

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And btw, you dont need any formulas to figure out haste on things lol. Just subtract your haste decimal from 1, then multimply the resulting decimal by the delay of the item in question, and it will give u the final result.

Well yes, this is still a formula, but you guys were making it way too complex lol
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RE: more on haste
# Oct 29 2003 at 4:47 PM Rating: Good
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Quiver haste STACKS with item haste AND spell/bard haste, up to your max haste for your level. Quiver haste = weight reduction/3, so this gives you 20% haste. If you have SCHW, you get 42% haste shooting your bow, 22% meleeing.

So there. Go to eqrangers.com and it's all explained by people who actually know.
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Price on The Rathe
# Apr 30 2003 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Just bought one of these from someone for 1k, lovin it!
Combine chances?
# Apr 23 2003 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I know this quiver has a trivial of 222, so what would be the chances of a successful combine with a tailoring skill level of 105? I hope to buy enough supplies to make at least three of these for guild mates, but if my chance of success is only 5% to 10%, then I need to get my skill level up before wasting the money on a failed combine. Any ideas on the success chance?

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RE: Combine chances?
# Jun 25 2003 at 8:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, at 105 skill you'll only have a 5% chance of success.

If you decide to skill up making Wu's armour to 158, you'll then have a 43% chance of success on the fleeting quivers.

If you skill all the way up to 210 you will reach a 95% chance of success on the fleeting quivers, which is the highest possible.

So you should probably either skill up to at least 158 first or find a more skilled tailor to do the combines for you. You might be able to find a tailor around 190-220 range that would do the combines for free, since each combine will give him a shot at a skill-up, which tend to cost either a lot of plat or a lot of time at that level.

RE: Combine chances?
# Apr 26 2003 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Until you get to within 30-50 points or so of the trivial, you have the same chance as if your skill were 0. That is 5% (the minimum success rate). Bite the bullet and do your Wu's and get skill up to 158. Then you may have a 10 to 15 percent chance (but that's still kind of a guess). For good info on tradeskill stuff, check out www.eqtraders.com
Want to buy one!
# Apr 22 2003 at 11:26 PM Rating: Good
I have been trying to find one for sale for ever, it seems. No luck! Heck, I can't even find a HQ lion skin for sale. Now someone post that they got one for 75pp!? Anyone on Xegony that can make one I will pay you 5000pp for it! Otherwise I will keep working on my Tayloring and killing every lion I see!

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# Apr 18 2003 at 8:54 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, after messing around online trying to parse **** i dont know why, i simply cannot do) i found out a simple math formula that works for ANY haste effect on delay of weapons and bows.

For a bow (its more important =):

Take the delay of your bow, and multiply it by the percentage of haste you have (including quiver haste which is 1/3 of the WR stated on it)

Example:

My Blessed Faydark Thunderbolt has a delay of 38, and i have a Fleeting Quiver of 20% Bow Haste and a Sash of the Dragonborne of 24% Haste (add the hastes together for 44% haste total on bows). So the formula for me is: 38 x .44 (decimal form of percentages) = 16.72
Now i take the product of 16.72 and subtract that from the current delay of 38. That results in a new delay of 21.28 with total haste without spells. If you want to know what the delay is with spells just add the percentage of the spell haste in with it.

For melee weapons, just take out the quiver haste and your golden =). Seems quite simple, and it is. However, i do not no if this formula is correct, but it works fine for me and my friends who use it. Just thought id share it with you. Later
Good try, but ultimatley, Wrong =)
# May 30 2003 at 3:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Okay, i looked over your formulae extensivley and there was always somthing glaringly wrong.

100% haste = attacking 2x as much. or HALVING the delay of a weapon.

so if your Blessed Faydwer Thunderbolt has a delay of 38, after adding 100% haste, it would have a delay of 19.

You state that with 44% haste, you have a 22 delay.. well, youd be chopping off more than 44% of that delay. MUCH more.

heres the formula for haste -

D/(1 + H) = X

D is your Delay
H is your % haste in decimal form
X is your new delay.

Remember, % is just based off of the number 1. 100% = 1, 50% = .5, 25% = .25 etc.

Then you DIVIDE your beginning Delay by your sum!

heres an example.

We'll Take your Blessed Faydwar Thunderbolt with a delay of 38, and youre wearing a FBSS. (we wont add in quivers yet).

D / (1 + H) = X

Plug in our numbers

38 / (1 + .21) = X

Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally (come on, that should get a laugh!)

38 / (1.21) = X

31.4 = X

so 31.4 is your new delay.

now lets throw in a quiver to the mix, we'll use your sash of the dragon born, and your fleeting quiver.

D / (1 + H) = X
D / (1 + (.24 + 20)) = X
D / (1 + (.44) = X
D / (1.44) = X
26.38 = X

Your new delay on your belssed thunderbolt is 26.38, NOT 21.28

To ACHIEVE a delay of 21.28 youd need a much faster delay! and just cus i was bored, heres the haste youd need along side all the math that showed me how i got it!

Using my above formula --

D / (1 + H) = X

We'll plug in our knowns, we know the Delay of the weapon, and the new delay after haste is applied, were trying to find out the haste itself, so lets solve for H. (this is much easier shown on paper where i can show where i have fractions, basically think of all "/"'s as fractions.

38 / (1 + H) = 21.28

Multiply both sides by (1 + H)/1

38 = 21.28/1 * (1 + H)/1

Multiply the right side

38 = 21.28 + 21.28H

Subtract 21.28 from both sides

16.72 = 21.28H

Divide both sides by 21.28

.78 = H

your answer is 78% haste.

so to have a 21.28 delay with a 38 delay weapon, you need to have 78% haste total.

***NOTE*** Contrary to what this shows, i AM bad at math, lol. Took me a while to solve for H. but i assure you, this is correct ***NOTE***
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RE: Good try, but ultimatley, Wrong =)
# Sep 18 2003 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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WOOT finally someone who was able to explain haste in plain english!! I spent the time to figure how haste work out for myself and came up with the same answer. Thanks for the simple explaination and example. I look forward to seeing more of your posts!!
HQ lion skin
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Seems I have really bad ratio on the Highland Lion. I have killed over 170 of them and have yet to get a hq lion skin.
to clear things up
# Mar 24 2003 at 4:15 AM Rating: Default
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I have found out that the fleeting quiver isn't a haste item so it doesn't make u shoot ur arrows faster. The reason why it is better is that it is 60% WR instead of 22% WR the tailored quivers have.



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RE: to clear things up
# Mar 25 2003 at 4:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Quivers aren't explicitly haste items. They affect bow delay only. I've heard this explained several ways. It's suppose to reduce arrow drawing delay, which in turn speeds up the rate you shoot arrows. It gives a haste of 1/3 the weight reduction, so 60% WR gives 20% haste bow delay as compared to just over 7% with the tailored quivers.

I guess you can think of it as being able to draw and nock your arrows faster if they are lighter. =) I haven't quantified this myself, but I have noticed a slight speed improvement in my bow using the tailored quiver.
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Triv
# Mar 01 2003 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
Not sure where anymore. But I saw somewhere that this triv's @ 115 in Tailoring. Im @ 156 now. And Im gonna make one once I get all the items to do the combine. So check back for update. And one happy Kat on Rodcet when I sell it.
RE: Triv
# Mar 02 2003 at 3:24 AM Rating: Good
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Standard "Tailored Quiver" trivials at 115. The "Fleeting Quiver" trivials at 222 according to www.eqtraders.com
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# Feb 23 2003 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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and what does your skill have to be?
tailored ot Fletched
# Feb 23 2003 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Is the quiver Tailored or fletched?Smiley: confused
RE: tailored ot Fletched
# Mar 02 2003 at 3:22 AM Rating: Good
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Fleeting Quiver is tailored. Fletching is for making bows and arrows.
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# Feb 22 2003 at 11:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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After 3 pages of this stuff I'm still not totaly sure WHAT the quiver does. Seems the best bet is to just nod your head and say "Yes, you'll shoot faster."
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#Yevun, Posted: Feb 23 2003 at 10:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol /nod i agree
Function of Haste
# Dec 12 2002 at 5:06 AM Rating: Default
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Bottom line for Haste is that it reduces your delay, period.

Item haste reduces your delay.

Spell haste reduces your delay.

Therefore, if using a Fleeting Quiver reduces your bow delay, it IS a haste item, albeit bow-only.
Quivers work only one way!
# Oct 26 2002 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
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The Fleeting Quiver is not a Haste item. It is a weight reducing quiver that allows for faster draw of arrows. If it were haste, it would state haste in it's stats.

What does this mean? It means you WILL fire slightly faster pulling from this quiver as opposed to other quivers or normal bags. The delay on bows (only) is reduced by the time effected during drawing.

How? Imagine drawing an arrow from a quiver, knocking it, drawing the string and releasing...

What does the Fleeting Quiver do? You draw like Billy the Kid as opposed to those he shot down.
RE: Quivers work only one way!
# Dec 09 2002 at 4:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Just because it doesn't have the EFFECT:haste listed doesn't mean it's not a haste item, goober.

haste ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hst)
n.
1. Rapidity of action or motion.
2. Overeagerness to act.
3. Rash or headlong action; precipitateness.

intr. & tr.v. hast·ed, hast·ing, hastes
To hasten or cause to hasten.

Idiom:
make haste
To move or act swiftly; hurry.

The quiver IS a haste item. Your delay between shots is lower, therefore you shoot faster. Just like any haste item makes your delay between melee swings lower.

It was posted before and I'm tracking down the post as it was stated.

The benefit of a WR quiver is 10% of the WR is subtracted from the bows delay POINTS. Fleeting Quiver of 60%WR reduces bow delay by 6 POINTS. Stackable with haste items, spells & songs. The first reference of the benefits is in the developers corner forum on 7/30/2001 with the title "Quivers" or something like that.

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*edit* - Quivers only affect BOW delays and the top-left most quiver WR is used.

Edited, Mon Dec 9 16:28:32 2002
#Eristotle, Posted: Jan 19 2003 at 3:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can get techincal all you want. This quiver does not have EQ haste. In EQ haste is an affect that increases your speed of attacks in battle. Or can affect your casting time if its spell haste. The quiver only speeds up your arrow drawing time, it does not decrease the speed you will shoot the arrows or the delay between shot. You simply draw arrows faster than from you inventory or other quivers, simple as that.
RE: Quivers work only one way!
# Mar 27 2003 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
If you draw and knock your arrow's faster then doesn't that essentially equate to shooting your arrow's faster? The delay in a bow is in when you draw and knock your next arrow. So if the effect of the quiver speeds the drawing process it then must decrease the delay which is by defenition bow haste.

Check it out. Time the amount of time between shots with a quiver and with out.

I for one use a fleeting quiver and notice a difference.

Diamsorn
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RE: Quivers work only one way!
# Jan 25 2003 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, then call it Bow Haste.
#bodhisfattva, Posted: Oct 08 2002 at 1:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I love how folks spout out facts like they know something...post feking logs or shut up as you know nothing.
Where are patterns?
# Sep 13 2002 at 8:39 AM Rating: Default
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Where are fleeting quiver patterns sold?
RE: Where are patterns?
# Sep 30 2002 at 12:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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This item may be purchased at vendors:
Dolsoj Warrebs (The Bazaar).
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Easy, for once
# Sep 11 2002 at 8:14 PM Rating: Default
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Got my 1st HQ skin after only about 8 lions. That after 3 whole levels (49-51) in Jaggedpine trying for an Eye of Grif (which I haven't gotten yet, though I did get the Grif earring). I guess the EQ Gods are having some mercy on me. On the other hand, I haven't gotten any other ingreds, nor tried combining them, so we'll see....

(added Feb-12). After previous post got 2 more HQ skins after just 6 more lions. Sweet. The item I had the hardest time with was the Aviak eggoil. Foraged/bought the eggs, but due to my low brewing skills it took me until my very last egg (24th) to get 3 eggoils (I'm collecting 3 of everything). Next I have to get Vial of Distilled Mana and pattern, /tells to find a tailor....

Edited, Thu Sep 12 19:52:57 2002
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RE: Easy, for once
# Sep 25 2002 at 7:34 AM Rating: Default
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Hey Bud =)

Just one little tip!
The Egg is not dropped by Griffons in Jaggedpine. Cause you need a Aviak Egg not a Griffon Egg.
And the Aviak Egg is foraged in Butcherblock Mountains =)

Good Luck to you

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RE: Easy, for once
# Oct 31 2003 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
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He was saying he was also trying to get the eye of the griffon in JP, not griffon eggs. Just a comment about various drop rates.
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Throwing
# Sep 09 2002 at 12:11 PM Rating: Default
Can you put throwing items in the Fleeting quiver? Like Darts, throwing knives, shurkins. Also would it reduce the delay on throwing items?

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RE: Throwing
# Dec 19 2002 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Fleeting quiver parts
# Aug 02 2002 at 2:31 PM Rating: Default
Remember, its the High Quality Lion SKIN
thats SKIN , NOT pelt, I had tons of pelts, but it took me about 2 hours to get a HQ Lion SKIN.
I have an FBSS now, and combined with this, I will shoot arrows even faster. Cool
all I want for xmas is this quiver and a tolans darkwood bracer. and a Tolans darkwood vambraces, and I will be killing machine.
goodbye and good luck, peace grease.
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brew barrel
# Jun 24 2002 at 12:54 PM Rating: Default
Not being a brewer, I dumped 1 point into brewing and want to combine the aviak egg and the water. Where can I get a brewers barrel? what skill level do I need to make the Aviak Eggoil?

Zun L52 ranger of Bristlebane
RE: brew barrel
# Aug 18 2002 at 9:12 PM Rating: Decent
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There is a mob in Black Burrow that drops a portable brewing barrel. Look up the Burning Rapier quest for more information.
RE: brew barrel
# Oct 12 2003 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
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That brewing barrel in BB is for a quest and can only be used for that quest, not for normal brewing
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RE: brew barrel
# Aug 17 2002 at 5:16 AM Rating: Decent
A brewers barrel is like a forge, it sits in a city (unmovable).. go to most taverns & you'd find a brew barrel
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Explanation
# Jun 07 2002 at 3:22 AM Rating: Default
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Yes, the 60WR means it has roughly 1/3 of that in haste effect meaning 20%.

This haste stacks with 1 normal item (non spell) haste and 1 spell haste as usual.

The 20% additional haste ONLY applies to bows, not weapons.
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RE: Explanation
# Jun 17 2002 at 3:58 PM Rating: Default
The WR of a quiver is the EXACT AMOUNT of haste given. 60 WR= 60%haste not 1/3 of the WR.

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#manchine, Posted: Sep 29 2002 at 12:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WR=HASTE is NOT true at all.
RE: Explanation
# Jun 07 2002 at 3:40 PM Rating: Default
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Actualy, quivers don't give percentage haste. Instead they reduce the delay of the bow. 10% weight reduction is equal to 1 delay reduction. Depending on the bow this could be trivial or significant. Basicaly, the faster the bow is the more you'll notice the quiver.
And yes, you still get a benifit from 1 item haste and 1 spell haste (and 1 bard haste).

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RE: Explanation
# Feb 14 2003 at 11:17 PM Rating: Good
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I'd like to believe that, but if that's the way it works, the developers didn't think it through.

The way you suggest, that means if the bow has lower delay (a better bow, provided the damage was the same or at least same ratio, and also ignoring stats.), the quiver will affect it more than a bow with higher delay. The system you suggest makes it easier to improve an already awesome bow, than one that could really use some bow haste.

Let's just use an example of "Bow A," a 6/24 bow and "Bow B," a 6/42 bow. If your system was right, when you equipped the Fleeting Quiver, Bow A becomes 6/18 and Bow B becomes 6/36. Bow A, is a lot better than Bow B to start off, but the delay of Bow A is still over half of Bow B. After you add the quiver and do your haste thing, Bow A has exactly half the delay of Bow B, making it even better than Bow B with the same "haste". Look at the ratios:

Bow A before 'haste' = 4
Bow B before 'haste' = 7
Bow A after 'haste' = 3
Bow B after 'haste' = 6
(yeah, I picked the numbers so I could do it in my head :P ;) )

Well, this probably got a bit long-winded, but after talking to many other rangers, the typical consensus is that it is in fact 1/3 of the WR percentage, and I just thought I'd ramble on about how your system can't work.

Edited, Fri Feb 14 22:50:15 2003
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RE: Explanation
# Jun 08 2002 at 5:57 PM Rating: Default


Edited, Sat Jun 8 18:50:44 2002
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haste calculation
# Apr 25 2002 at 2:39 AM Rating: Default
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Ok lets get this issue straight, what does the 60% weight reduction actually mean for bow haste? is it 1/3 of the WR? all of the WR? what? just really wanting to know so i can do some math and figure out the delay for my bows

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Current Price
# Mar 24 2002 at 7:09 AM Rating: Default
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Could someone list a current price for this item and a description of the haste. I know its been said below but there were so many listed I would like a link possibly to a site where it may have been parsed. Thanks for the help =)

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RE: Current Price
# Apr 08 2002 at 1:44 AM Rating: Default
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While most haste information seems to appear out of thin air, the "Weight Reduction Percentage numeral = Bow Delay Reduction" seems correct. With a fleeting quiver my Double Recurved Velium bow is certainly nowhere near 17 delay, but I can say anecdotally that it certainly seems noticeably faster.
Trivial's at 222 but...
# Mar 17 2002 at 7:07 PM Rating: Default
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Finally got someone to attempt to make this for me. With a skill of 170 managed to get 2 out of two made! WOOT! So me and a ranger buddy now both have one :)

Sembrin Bowhunter
52 Ranger
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No drop?
# Mar 12 2002 at 2:29 PM Rating: Default
Are any of the components needed for this no drop?
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RE: No drop?
# May 03 2002 at 7:58 AM Rating: Default
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Clearification the Griffon Feathers are not the No Drops off Griffons in EK

Edited, Fri May 3 09:03:26 2002
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RE: No drop?
# Mar 13 2002 at 5:21 PM Rating: Default
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????
# Feb 19 2002 at 10:53 PM Rating: Default
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ok, who knows the exact percent del reduction on this thing? like FBSS is 21% and so on.... someone varify. im getting 60%, 20%, 30%. please someone confirm something.

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RE: ????
# Apr 27 2002 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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From what I have been able to tell, Quiver Weight reduction seems to translate into a Delay reduction in points. In otherwords, a tailored quiver has a DR of 22%, which seems to translate into a 2 point reduction, so your Trueshot would go from 45 to 43. That would seem to translate to a 6 point or so reduction for the Fleeting Quiver, which would make the Trueshot delay 39. respectable for a 20+ damage weapon (remember, arrows add to this, depending on the arrow). If someone has some hard data on whether or not this is correct, I would love to see it.
RE: ????
# Mar 12 2002 at 2:26 PM Rating: Default
With quivers Weight reduction % = Haste %

Its bow haste only as well.
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RE: ????
# Feb 21 2002 at 11:21 PM Rating: Default
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this item has 60% haste according to peoples selling it on my server..morelle thule...ive got everything now except the mana but ive got that lined up...didnt realize sapphs were so expensive grrrr
It only takes time and luck :P
# Feb 19 2002 at 5:07 AM Rating: Default
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Have all the pieces for this, even the distilled mana, but no luck with a higher lvl tailor yet. Worst part of quest is the lion skins. In about 15 hours of playing time (combined total) got 2 to drop - that represents about 70 highland lions. On the other hand i know of someone else who got 1 after only an hour - 19 highland lions. go figure :P Placeholders for Highland Lions are Lions and Griffawns. Lionesses only seem to spawn more lionesses. Still looking for a high enough Tailor to attempt this - 240 skill would be great but I might just be happy to settle for 200+. If anyone on Luclin server can be of help plz send a tell, I'm sure we can work something out.

Sembrin Bowhunter
RE: It only takes time and luck :P
# May 03 2002 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
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Remember to use the /Rand 100 200 trick, basicly keep rolling till you get alot in the 170+ range then hit combine fast. its not a sure thing but it got me from 35 to 130 on a single pack of silk swatches.
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RE: It only takes time and luck :P
# Jun 03 2003 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
would like to know where u heared of this and if there is any known reason for it? im testing the theory atm and will post my results.
RE: It only takes time and luck :P
# Apr 02 2002 at 2:02 PM Rating: Default
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I used to hunt highland lions for HQ cat pelts in NK, I see I was wise to save the HQ lion pelts, cause I have a bunch in the bank now.
RE: It only takes time and luck :P
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Haste
# Jan 31 2002 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
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I always thought that it decreased your bow delay by a set amount 6 so a 50 delay bow becomes 44. However over at the Rangers Glade (the best site for parsing info and the combat engine for melees) has data parsing this at 20 percent so the haste is the wr percent divided by 3. Makes my 25 50 150 bow a 25 38 150 bow. Yummy
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Haste Level
# Jan 14 2002 at 9:00 AM Rating: Default
Has anyone actually done any studies of the Haste this item does to archer? I was wondering how much Haste the Fleeting Quiver has. I just got one... and my archery delay time is much less... so I know there is some.

Thank you,

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distilled mana
# Dec 14 2001 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
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How is the ditilled mana made?
RE: distilled mana
# Jan 30 2002 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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It is made by taking two sapphires and a regular poison vial (not lined or sealed) and having a higher up level enchanter cast the appropriate spell i believe it is called distill mana. most enchanters will do it for free some might ask for something in return. Sapphires best price is 105pp each and the posion vials can be found in west karana sold by gildin toxfodder for a few gold. can also be made by players with appriate poterry skill
Addition
# Oct 05 2001 at 6:13 PM Rating: Default
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For info my mains wife made 3 from 6 last night
Her skill was 159 however she has 206 wis and also had a 13 wis buff from the chanter who made the distilled mana so the old adage about wis for success and int for increase may be true. Anyway im really happy makes my Trailblazer even better, 25 44 150. Shame that an FBSS doesnt help bow shots
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RE: Addition
# Oct 24 2001 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Wis has no effect on successes of combines, only for skilling up.

Higher of Wis or Int is used for skilling up.
Dex is secondary for tailoring and fletching.
Str above 185 is secondary for smithing.

The only thing that affects success is your SKILL in that trade. That's why you try to raise it...

Check out the FAQs on www.eqtraders.com message board for an email from Verants trade skill developer if you need to check the validity.
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RE: Addition
# Dec 19 2002 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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There has been a lot of debate about dex being a secondary stat for fletching, but verant has specifically stated that this is NOT true. You can read the messageboard on eqtraders.com for more details or proof
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RE: Addition
# Feb 10 2003 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I believe you mean it is not a secondary for TAILORING, as it is in fact the secondary skillup check for fletching.

Check out this link for verification:

http://mboards.eqtraders.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31
RE: Addition
# Mar 04 2002 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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Just to remind anyone that may be new to the tradeskill game what int/wis actually does for tradeskills:

The stat that is the highest between int and wis is the stat that governs how fast you will get skill points (not taking into account the secondary stats for blacksmithing and I beleieve fletching). The trivial level of the item you are making vs. what skill you are currently trying to make it at determines success/failure.
So if you have a higher int than wis that is stat that will govern how fast you skill up and vise versa. If you are trying to make something at skill 20 that trivials at skill 100 you most likely won't make many.

This is all per the VI tradeskill guy from summer 2001 when they finally let us know what governs the tradeskills.
My story...
# Sep 29 2001 at 3:10 PM Rating: Default
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2 HQ Lion SKINS! ~Over a week in NK killing HL Lions. (Payed 25pp for second one)
2 Griffon Feathers ~Same as HQ skins but 10pp for second feather.
2 Fleeting Quiver Patters ~Not even 1pp, almost anywere you can get them.
2 Vials of Distilled Mana ~400pp for the gems sapphires and I had someone make me the vials!
2 Aviak Egg Oils ~A few days of running throuh BB forageing, trial at 104 in Brewing.

Then I spend two weeks looking for someone with a 250 skill in Tailoring. Could not find anyone! I finally found the person who was best on my server and gave him all the stuff. We hoped and prayed and the first attemt FAILED!!! Ok, I'll only have one, thats all I need. Second attemt FAILED!!!! I got a boobe prize b/c he felt bad for me and said when he is maxed out skill he will drop me a line. Now I just need more stuff! lol Good luck to anyone who wants one!

Enfiniti Starr
Ranger of the 20 season
Loyal servent of Karana
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RE: My story...
# Oct 26 2001 at 2:21 AM Rating: Default
Wow, you spent a week in N Karana killing Hilghland Lions (~17 fair enough) and Giffons (35-37) at level 20, I am impressed! You don't even have the benefit of Panic Animal, not that your spells would stick on Griffons anyway at your level.
RE: My story...
# Nov 04 2001 at 7:55 PM Rating: Default
griffawns drop the feathers too...and rather quickly got 2 feathers in a half hour
the **** lion pelts are another story.....
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RE: My story...
# Jan 30 2002 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
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i have found that griffawns dropped them the most. In 20 minutes on tribunal server i had 4 hq lion skins and 4 griffon feathers.

Mikaeal Quietsoul
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RE: My story...
# Jul 15 2002 at 6:54 AM Rating: Default
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The feathers I believe totally. The HQ lion skins not so sure. Are you sure you arn't confusing HQ LION SKINS with HQ CAT PELT? HQ cat pelts drop fairly commonly, but the HQ skins are fairly rare. Even with tracking and luck it is tough for me to find say...10-20 lions in 20 minutes. To find that many lions in 20 minutes with 4 HQ skins drop would be very VERY lucky. Not calling you a liar or anything, GRATS if you did find 4 skins in 20 minutes, that is the bottleneck on making these quivers.

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Aviak Oil
# Aug 29 2001 at 3:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Aviak Oil is made from a foraged Aviak Egg, (foraged in Butcher Block) and a flask of water (non-foraged) combined in a brew barrel.
With a brewing of "Very Bad" I succeeded 1 in 7. Not sure if that was way lucky or not.
Aviak Egg Oil?
# Aug 29 2001 at 12:00 AM Rating: Default
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From the day I found this item I have been trying to get all the stuff to make it. I have double of everything;
Fleeting Quiver Pattern
Giffon Feathers
4 shappires
2 posion vials
~to make two vials of Distilled Mana
2 HQ Lion SKINS
and....
NOTHING ELSE!!!
I can't find Aviak Egg Oil anywhere! Nobody knows where to find it or make it or anything. If anybody knows please let me know! I want one of these really bad. Feel free to send me a /tell. I will pay you for it if you have one or two!

Enfinit
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It's not a haste.
# Aug 28 2001 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
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The Fleeting Quiver gives a 20% reduction in a bows Delay. It does not haste the archer, so it will stack with any haste items or spells. A 20% reduction (quiver's weight reduction/3) in a bows delay gives the same rate of fire as an archer with out a quiver that's using 25% haste.

If you fire an arrow once every 5 seconds for 500 seconds, that's 100 shots.
20% delay reduction would be once every 4 seconds.
If you fire an arrow once every 4 seconds for 500 seconds, that's 125 shots.
That's an increase of 25% more shots, which is a similar effect to a 25% bow only haste.
RE: It's not a haste.
# Oct 02 2001 at 5:44 PM Rating: Default
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I talked to one of my friends and he says the the weight reduction of the quiver is also the percent that it lowers your delay. if you are right then what percent does the tailored quiver lower bow delay by?
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