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Runed Coldain Prayer Shawl  
 

Lore Item No Trade Quest Item
Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 7
STA: +7 CHA: +7 WIS: +7 INT: +7
SV FIRE: +7 SV COLD: +7 SV POISON: +7
Mana Regeneration: +1
WT: 2.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Armor
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Kheldar
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-08-31 10:04:27
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious


Rarity: Uncommon
Level to Attain: 52

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Quest Name
Coldain Shawl #7: Runed Coldain Prayer Shawl

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dont forget shaman
# Sep 03 2001 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
sure does a +1 mana per tick is not so great but with the stats that make a wondrous item for shaman or any class with hp mp converter. hp regen is good I will do the coldain ring quest too. The cause is with a regen on the ring (hope that can be stack with regen spell line) and a caniblalize that ratio is near 2hp give 1mp the ring and a chloroblast make a regen near 20hp per tick... that make near 9 to 10 mp per tick without a clarity line spell and with this shawl... Shaman gona be a mana fountain!

Keep the blood of your enemies. If you are out of booze you gona need it.

Garsak wineblood
Barbarian shaman
Vazaelle
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 31 2001 at 2:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's funny, most people think Flowing Thought 1 is more mana regen than it really is. It's self BREEZE - that's 1 point of mana regen per tick or 100 mana over 10 minutes! That's NOTHING. I have a spell which i got at lvl52 that gives me the same effect, the mana regen isn't noticable at ALL. Quest is worthless unless you need it for the resists\int\wis\cha NOT the effect. I'd much rather spend my time and money getting something better for my shoulders.
RE: Sux!
# Sep 03 2001 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
Well the point is that it stacks with all other mana regen buffs and even C2 is "only" 11 points per tick (must be worthless since its only 10 times the amount of breeze).

Eadana Breezeweaver
59th level enchantress
Bristlebane
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 19 2001 at 3:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) There is only 1 thing to say about this shawl...Enchanter's Dream!
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 26 2001 at 12:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) whoever said this is an enchanters dream is an idiot.. so what if it has cha and int ...LOL ... YOU DONT need the effect idiot. Out of all casters and priest you need it the least.
RE: Only 1 thing to say....
# Aug 07 2001 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
yes it is good for an enchanter. just as its good for any other caster.

she/he wasnt saying its BETTER for an enchanter than any other caster, just that its really good for his/her class.
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 03 2001 at 2:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this manna rengen stacks with clarity and bard songs so it is a good item
RE: Only 1 thing to say....
# Aug 03 2001 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
this manna rengen stacks with clarity and bard songs so it is a good item








Yumil Rezmore of the xegony server
Eye of the Manastorm shall consume you all
RE: Only 1 thing to say....
# Jul 31 2001 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
Any casting class would like this, including enchanters, clerics etc. So what if chanters have clarity. Most high lvl groups have a chanter with them so you have clarity too. Mana regen is good for all.

Dalcron Spellfury 51 Chanter. The Tribunal
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 29 2001 at 9:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /agree quazzi
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 16 2001 at 3:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, there are a few alternatives to this item and I guess by the time you are high enough to complete this and have a good enough guild you could go for the other stuff. The main items I found with the same or better Wisdom were found in PoA, ToV, and Kedge Keep. 3 zones that from what I have heard are not so easy. <---insert sarcasm here. I'm going to try to do this quest, I have the baking high enough to do the first 3 steps but I need to do some leveling and training to go much higher than that. Just a note, I looked specifically for Cleric +WIS stuff and not any other class and I found just 5 or so things with the same or better Wisdom and the add on stats. Just some info for those who are less informed.
RE: Alternatives? (LOL)
# Aug 07 2001 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
the interesting thing on this item is the effect ... not the wis :) ... if you gain a high enough level, you have enough highlevel wis items ... but youre right 7 wis is nice, too :)
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 15 2001 at 10:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /em tackles %t *targeting Ihnanna*
Intelligent complaints..
# Jul 14 2001 at 10:12 PM Rating: Excellent
It's nice that some people have taken so much time to write a 10 page philisophical debate on risk vs. reward, or how extra mana is not worth is.
I'm not going to repeat other's posts on 'don't do the quest' if you don't like it, because some people just like to complain, no matter what.
I'm an enchanter, and I TRY to be almost out of mana, whenever the oppertunity presents itself.
Extra mana means I get to do more stuff.. stuff like stun mobs, or cast sentinal to annoy others, or use all my illusions in any given group..
There is a ROLEPLAYING factor to everything, but most people see everquest as a 'video game' and NOT a roleplaying game.
I have spent most of the time on my charcter learning languages, helping people, learning tradeskills, and exploring places I don't belong, and loseing levels for it.
I enjoy spending hours on trade skills.. it gives my charcter definition.. sure, I could be 10 levels higher if I would have spent the time leveling instead of working on trade skills, but I like the idea of having my charcter be a master at something..
He has invested part of his life, for whatever roleplaying reasons I choose.. perhaps my inky *** likes to knit, or likes to have drinking contests with dwarves, with ale of my own creation, or perhaps I like to make beautiful jewlery for my in-game (and IRL) fiancee?
I started playing everquest because it was like traditional role playing games in that you can invest a lot of time on side quests, or building skills that are not essential, but just add charcter and flavour to the persona you adopt when you play.
That's roleplaying.
Of course, I'd love it all the more if that jewlery would show up, or everythign that you made with tailoring would show up perfectly with each class/race.. and hopefully that will come soon.
But right now I'm content with at least the concept of creating..
I'm a master of a skill, and an apprentice of others.. I'm an enchanter because I like to controle the enviroment of battle, change my appearance, manipulate minds, and imbue items with magical powers.
It just goes with the general idea of the game.
Yes, the items in question have decent stats, and yes, they are helluva time consuming to get.
But would you rather wear something that you can say 'yes, I spent countless hours, and I created this item by myself, after spending the time befriending the nation of dwarves, helping them in their endless struggle' or 'umm.. I was lucky and won a roll on some phat l3wt! '
It's all in perception, and why you are playing the game.
If you dont' like somethign, don't do it. If you don't have the time to invest, or you would rather be leveling, do that instead.
It's not like you are FORCED to do this quest, or any other.
You can power play your charcter through 50+ levels, never learning any skills, or doing more than a quest or two.. I have a friend who has done just that.. he leveled quite a bit faster than I did, and he's still over 12 levels higher than me.. but I guarentee that I've enjoyed my time quite a bit more.
I've made countless friends, I've helped numouous people.. I get tells all the time from people I don't know, asking questions about skills, or class/race issues, and I happily take a little time to talk to them, letting them know whatever it is they are asking for.
There might not be a lot of risk in trade skills (for the most part, at least), but the time invested alone makes it all worth while.
After all, would you rather win lucky rolls, from a few rare spawns, or have equipment that might be equal or greater (in some cases, just below an equivalant item that would drop) that you made, and have invested in more than an hour camping a spawn, or a lucky /rand ?
RE: Intelligent complaints..
# Sep 20 2001 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
I also play an enchanter that is more interested in roleplaying than lvling. I have a warrior that was started months after my chanter that has half the playtime, but close to double the lvl. Quests like this one are about the roleplaying, and the satisfaction of having a trophy to show for it.

Take the time to smell the roses..... is gardening a skill yet?
Gagem grimm 44th lvl basher
Chisel 27th lvl chanter.
RE: Intelligent complaints..
# Jul 15 2001 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default
Cant believe i am seeing this! /rubs eyes OMG! it's Xaoalo! Hun, where have yew been? I've been looking to do this quest as well, message me sometime :) i've missed yew.

Ihnanna Stormfury
49th Cleric
Valiant Few
Prexus Server
Good for hybrids?
# Jul 11 2001 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
I just learned about the Insignia Ring quests, so I'm going to do those for sure. The real question is how beneficial is the shawl to non-pure casters? INT is a plus in my estimation, and should I reach this one here I think Flowing Thought I may have a decent effect on my much smaller mana pool. So has any hybrids out there managed to work on both ring and shawl? Or just stick with ring?

All info is appreciated :)

Damn cool
# Jul 09 2001 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
This quest is for bored level 60's who have something to do when not raiding.

And to take PP out of the economy.

I am 60, spent lots of plat, and have this shawl.

Stats and resists are nice, but you guys are forgetting there will be more steps and better shawls.

The tailoring trivial at 190 for shawl 6 is to "weed" out the unworthy and uncommitted. Or else everyone and their sister will have one.

My tailoring is 155 and it took me 9 tries to do Shawl 6. BTW was easier to just gather the shawl components again rather than try to raise my tailoring to 190!! Got lucky on combine for the 7th first try.

Anyways, this is the most rewarding piece I wear, and i have lots of stuff (epic included). That is because I made it with my own hands.

Daneric
Sorcerer
I am astounded by the intellect....
# Jul 03 2001 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
I have a couple of things to say:

1. If you don't like the quest, don't do it.

2. This is a good shoulder item for any caster.

3. If you gather some materials before you go to camp gear or hunt, during downtime, you can work on the trade skills necessary to complete this quest.

4. If you don't have anything remotely intelligent to add to the forum on an item and are just going to rant on and on about how you think you got screwed, don't post.

Alystin Ravenblade
49th Season Rogue
Zebuxoruk
RE: I am astounded by the intellect....
# Jul 07 2001 at 9:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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78 posts
I have a couple of things to say:

"1. If you don't like the quest, don't do it. "
Good philosophy.

"2. This is a good shoulder item for any caster."
And the necro epic is a good item for any necro. The issue isn't whether or not the item is good, it's that buzzphrase Verant likes to throw around so much "risk vs. reward" or time invested vs. reward, in this case. The necro epic for it's difficulty isn't half as grand as most of the other epics. The darkness effect cast time is too slow, and the time that it runs is too fast. Every necro who I have ever seen with their epic never used it while grouped simply because their snare was totally unreliable. Likewise, it was improbable for them soloing, as the cast time on it is so hideous they can't pull with it, and casting it in the middle of combat means their pet is gettin' it's **** kicked. Is it still a good item? Of course. The issue here is whether the item is good for what's required to do it.

"3. If you gather some materials before you go to camp gear or hunt, during downtime, you can work on the trade skills necessary to complete this quest."

This is indeed when most folks do their tradeskilling. But the sixth and thus seventh, coldain prayer shawl requires a 190 tailoring. Hrm. I spoke with a fellow tradeswoman tailor on Tunare the other evening, her tailoring is 190, the exact trivial for the sixth step. We exchanged woes and triumphs, I showed her my elven chain, she showed me her black panther tunic. I asked her "how long do you think you have spent on tailoring?" "Hours?" "Hours." "Hundreds."

Now, this is a woman who has vehemently pursued tailoring, as her 190 skill would indicate. For those unenlightened in tailoring the amount of time getting to the 150ish level of Wu's is immense, countless hours of farming after farming after farming. I've spent about 20 hours alone in Crystal Caverns by myself churning out those crystalline silk swatches, and I still have 20 points to go... mind you, this is the lowest skill bracket past master in tailoring. The trivial levels past Wu's are incredible, I encourage you to go seek out yew leaves in Wakening Lands. Spend not hours farming, which is slightly interactive, or buying, where you can watch the auctions go past... But wandering, spend 20 hours looking for ground spawns and walk away with five, ten if you're lucky. Now watch each one of those leaves wither in your tailoring kit as your skill level is dozens beneath the trivial level. Do a pricecheck in your local East Commons/Gfay for yew leaves and see how many tells you get asking to buy them. Better yet, try to buy them for hours, good luck. Oh, and most tailors would assure you that black panther is probably the easiest post wu's velious tailoring to skill on.

Tailoring is not something you just "work on in your spare time" it is your time if you choose to pursue it. Do I dislike tailoring? No, I'm working on it now. Am I ********* No, but perhaps you should understand how IMMENSELY time consuming these skills, and particularly tailoring, are.

Now, that is just in reference to the simple items. Let's discount the immense amount of time required to get the incredible tailoring, or any of the necessary requirements to even make you viable for doing the quest. You're failing to mention that the hardest parts of the quest you cannot do "in your spare time" gather a party to venture into Siren's Grotto and kill sirens for hours, and more hours, the quest description even includes this in it's instructions that'll you be there awhile.

Now are you starting to understand how immensely time consuming this is? Ok, let's move.

"4. If you don't have anything remotely intelligent to add to the forum on an item and are just going to rant on and on about how you think you got screwed, don't post. "

All of the negative commentary here has been constructive or logical arguments why this item isn't that great. I presume you prefer the posts of "This item roxx0rs my soxxors, I gone git me won!" as you failed to single them out. Let's not forget "I got this item last night, it's coo, I like it, thanks, Soandso, person on some server you'd never disgrace yourself by playing on" But breakdowns of precise mana effects or comparable items isn't even "remotely intelligent"?

In case you haven't noticed, as Nods pointed out, Verant, sometimes, not always, will change something that A) plain sucks, or B) is perceived by the players to just plain suck. This website is an example of that, as it's the primary place where designers of a given item receive feedback for that item.

When enchanted elven chain first hit Allakhazam's everyone went "Holy crap! Pure caster wearble chain mail with semi-decent ok stats! Where do I sign up?!" Then, all the folks from eqtraders.com started posting saying "Hmm, you might not want this, it takes an item worth about 2k per attempt (blue diamond, way more on PvP servers) as well as countless hours of farming rare drops for the temper, it's really hard, and really expensive." Then, people went, wait... It's 3 or so k to just *attempt* this item, and I can get better stats out of an oracle robe and get six of them for that price?!

So what happened? It was changed. It took months, it took a lot of people griping, but none of the cultural enchant metals now require rare mob dropped only gems. An attempt at an elven chain tunic runs about 150 platinum plus a few hours of farming Mistmoore and Steamfont. It was an incredible triumph for people that wanted that change. It's still hard as crap to make cultural armor, but now it's at least remotely viable.

See, that actually happens all the time, folks say "This is really crappy Verant" and Verant then says "No, no, it's really good, look!" and the players say again "This is really hard, and really a pain in the butt." "No, no, it's great!" then a month or two later it's changed.

The effect on flowing thought 1 is minimal, the energy required for this line of quests is on the other hand IMMENSE. All past quests that required skill checks to make the quest item were positively nerfed from (crazy I know) people complaining about them so much and how frustrating it was to lose an item you spent dozens of hours attempting to acquire in a single click of the button. None of those old world quests even begin to compare to the Velious shawl quests, their previous levels were in the range of 80 or so in an easily raised smithing, compare that to 190 in tailoring of all godawful things.

Ok, now back to the item itself. Let's put this in rogue terms:

Let's assume FBSS' didn't rain from the sky and they instead were as rare, or to truly complete the analogy, rarer than cloaks of flame, dropping from gods and Temple of Veeshan nastiness. 20% was the absolute nastiest cap. Now, this quest came along, this identical quest. That allowed you to spend 100s of hours building skill and then finally doing the quest, and it enabled you to get a whooping 5 percent haste modifier. Go through and read each and every one of the quests, 1 through 7. Figure you're going to fail several of them, take that into account, and really consider if you would do that... If you're that crazy and would kill for five percent haste if haste items were that rare, more power to you, most however, would have the good sense not to. Going hasteless, or picking up 50-64 percent from their friendly 'chanter when they had the honor of grouping with them.

Ok, now that you would agree that a five percent damage output is pretty friggin' pointless, and I hope you do... Now, let's take a wizard that acquires 20 mana per tick. This item gives one per tick. Thus, this item would be the equivalent of a 5 percent increase in damage output. In other words, incredibly minimal. With clarity/c2/manasong, the effects become even more minimal, just like if you got this legendary 5 percent haste item, and then got a Swift like the Wind from your friendly Illusionist.

Now if you're of the school of thought that five percent damage increase in a fight is so much, such that you would sacrifice hundreds of hours of your life to acquire said item... Well, go nuts folks. As for the rest of us, I hope these calculations stand out a bit more.

RE: I am astounded by the intellect....
# Sep 28 2001 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
I don't have time to work on statistics but.. If you've played this game awhile you should realize that.. no that extra 2 Int on your new arm piece isnt that terrific.. no +10 mana on some new thing you got from the planes doesnt make you want to jump up and down.. LIFE, not just this game, is about conquests as Kathrin pointed out.

What you are striving for is the 200 mana as the end result of all the +10 mana items you acquired and the +70 or so points of Int Cha Wis whatever that you acquired. I do not notice much of a difference in +1 or +10 Int. However, when I add up all the stats from all the items I worked hard to obtain.. I *DO* notice.

To sum up the point I am trying to make, one little item with slightly better stats/effects does not make much of a difference, but fill up 17 slots with such items and you notice a huge improvement.

In addition, someone on one of these boards posted the math on how much mana this item gave you per hour. It works out to being a significant amount.
RE: I am astounded by the intellect....
# Aug 24 2001 at 2:55 AM Rating: Good
oh come on everyone, this is a quest for those who are looking for a challenge. nothing wrong with that at all. personally i wouldnt do it... to frustrating, but i am sure that there are enough people out there that would that this quest should be left alone and the reward should too. one day i may do this quest but it probly wont be until all my charactor slots have lvl 60's in them. =) slim chance of that. umm what was i saying..? oh yeah, the challenge. people would never do this quest for the item, but only for the challenge. thats the whole purpose of this game isnt it?
as someone pointed out, if it was easy to do, everyone would be lvl 60 and decked out in plane armour in a week of play. i personally grit my teeth during all raids i go on, and jump in the air when that named giant drops, even if he drops 5cp and a ration. and i laugh hystaricly when i do a run by on a bat in qeynos. and i feel pride when i give out silk armour to that poor n00b in felwithe, or patchwork to that neked warrior in halas. off the point again aint i? oh well, the point is not everyone plays the game to beat it, or how ever ya look at a unbeatable game such as EQ, some just PLAY the game and enjoy. dont go farm the loot, dont reem that n00b that NEEDS that plus 2 int ring, dont just destroy that nodrop item that some poor soul has been looking for for 4 hours. feel pride in your skills and help others to learn theirs. HELL, go ahead and try that horridly long and involved quest for tha useless item, i am possitive you will like the little trinket you get, even if ya dont use it. it will be a trophy in you vault, a prize for you to gaze upon. i still have a quest item i got at lvl 5, i am still proud of it, totally and utterly useless necklace from a quest in halas. lol, i even carried it with me til lvl 27. just becuz i did it. when people stop doing things like that they lose the reason of playing the game.

Kathrin Spiritbear
Level 42 Shaman of the Tribunal
Knight of the White Rose
Tallon Zek
RE: I am astounded by the intellect....
# Aug 01 2001 at 1:01 AM Rating: Decent
"In case you haven't noticed, as Nods pointed out, Verant, sometimes, not always, will change something that A) plain sucks, or B) is perceived by the players to just plain suck."

Hehe, can't find what I posted and can't remember what it was, anyone refresh me? ;)

Nods
RE: I am astounded by the intellect....
# Jul 12 2001 at 12:53 PM Rating: Default
Thank you. No more, No less.
tailoring?
# Jun 24 2001 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
I'm not even going to address how insane it is to complain about extra mana...Getting harvest made my wizard feel useful again..

I just want to know how doable it is to get tailoring up past 158ish? Which is Wu's fighting armor.. I see fleeting quivers until 210 or something. but how likely is it to find that many hq lion skins? Is there anything remotely easier to obtain to build skill?


Rutalia, High Elf Wizard from the 51st Cicle of MAYHEM!!!

Edited, Fri Sep 20 15:20:36 2002
Lol
# Jun 18 2001 at 7:09 PM Rating: Default
well i was just wondering that guy complaining about it being only 600mana.Do you actually use icecomit?if anything is pointless its icecomit not the sweet 600extra mana an hour lemme see 2extra draught spells 658dmg each 215mana thats an extra 1316dmg per hour and you still have 50 extra mana left for a root or a gate or something.man you need to stop *******

~Zapron~
54wizard
The Rathe
Legend of Marr
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 18 2001 at 7:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
Couple Quick Points
# Jun 17 2001 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
I cant really talk about the finished product seeing as how I just started part 5 today. I can however look forward to it. I have seen the stats, I have read the posts and I know I WANT this item. Just a few points Id like to share for those of you who seem to have a problem with the result of all your quest time.

1. And this has been said before.......If you dont like it, dont do it.

2. Free mana is free mana. An extra nuke every hour could just save your life.

3. This is the one i find most important. According to what the Loremaster says when you get the 7th shawl there will be more. Who knows what might be added in the next part(s). The new shawl could have a right click clarity effect, a Flowing Thought 2 or 3 effect, a nuke effect, who knows. The quest isnt finished yet, and Im sure that it will get even better. Just give it time. Personally, 7 int and free mana on a shoulder item is good enough for me =)

Tazz Mission
49th Wizard
<Eternal Legends>
Terris-Thule
come on use your brain
# Jun 16 2001 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
OK you say flowing thought is usless cuz its only a certain amount of mana an hour bla bla bla bla
heres the point i see and you dont... 1 mana per tick weather your standing or sitting... you have almost no mana regen when standing.. i dont know if you even have any while standing... basicaly saying that when im kiteing im still getting that 1 mana a tick.. along with form of the howler it can make the difference at the end of a quad how much med kiting i hafta do for that sliver of health on a vicious raptor... and why bash this item in the first place? it may be only 1 mana but its mana.. not to mention im lvl 55 now... pretty soon im going to start caring a **** load more about resists than AC.. rember im a druid not a tank dummy.. if i agro a mob on a raid its my own fault for being stupid by casting when i shouldnt or sitting where i shouldnt.. if you dont like it gooa way
This Quest
# Jun 12 2001 at 4:29 AM Rating: Default
Here's a decent suggestion, I just got 75 crystal threads from velk's lab. While hunting there I got 2 crushed onyx sapphires 2 crushed flame emeralds 1 crushed black marble and 1 crushed opal, these gems sell for 1-2k APIECE. Collect the threads, sell your gems and then use the money to jack up all your trade skills. It's working for me, just gotta get my tailoring skill up a bit more before I attempt the combines on the 5th shawl.

Yaldin
55 Evoker
Karana Server
Storm`s Justice
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 11 2001 at 7:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why does everyone complain about other classes getting stuff? I could careless if I have other classes spells. I am cleric, I have good undead nukes. Soloed specs throughout many levels between 35 and 44. Clerics can solo, you just have to be good at it. And of course after 50 forget about medium or even high blues. Lukcy to solo low blues, but you can do it. I have mastered every trade skil but blacksmithing, and do not mind at all. Although i would rather have spent 2k on clear mana vice JC, I can make good newbie jewery at 170. I am a tailor and have been since i made this character is august of 1999. I enjoy quests and spent alot of trime tediously camping green crap to get materials for trade skills. I can honestly say I spent more time questing and doing tradeskills than I have leveling. Exp? Still got exp at 52 doing shawl 5. All the spiders gave exp while soloing, only shards/devs/hunters while grouped(not sure why). Tacked ona few ncie blue bubs doign soemthing I needed to do anyways plus a nice cache of quest gems. Gonna wax me some sirens and hit the combine on 6 and hope for the best. And 7 will definitely be exp. Can't wait for 8,9 and so on. May need to do some leveling first. So play your character, if you like other classes spel/equip then play that class and leav mine alone. Cleric is the MAIN healer, so if you wanna heal play a cleric =p
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 10 2001 at 12:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
RE: Why do you people make it so complicated?
# Jun 10 2001 at 12:11 PM Rating: Default
In terms of Flowing Thought (clarity line), regen or any of the haste line effects/spells the rules are the same. You can have at MOST three effects running at any time. They are:

1) Item effect
2) Spell effect
3) Song effect

You can NOT stack item effects. You can NOT stack spell effects (for example breeze and clarity and clarityII, or regen and chloro and regrowth). You can NOT stack song effects.

It is pretty simple to remember.

This item has a clarity effect. It will not stack with another item clarity effect. It WILL stack with a clarity spell and/or clarity song.

*Sheesh*

RE: Can so stack
# Jun 24 2001 at 2:51 AM Rating: Default
RE: Why do you people make it so complicated?
# Jun 15 2001 at 5:16 PM Rating: Default
Haste items and spells do stack, but currently bard haste songs do not stack. VI is aware of that, but no fix is in and is considered a low priority. Too bad, too. Just think how nice it would be to add a bard haste song to SLTW and natural item haste. Couldn't imagine how quick an epic monk would be =)
Actually
# Jun 11 2001 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
You can stack some spells but not of the same line like for mana regen say your a cleric you can get Gift of Brilliance, Clarity 2, and Protection of the Glades then also still get mana from a bards song and this item and if a druid they also get mask of the hunter which has a small mana regen component on it also

Ilain
55 Templar
Primal Orders E'ci
There is still more quests coming
# Jun 09 2001 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
I don't understand the people who complain about the effect. It's only the 7th shawl there is still at least 1 more coming maybe 3 more like the Coldain rings. Who knows.

No class is made obsolete by these quest. I bet you C2 will still be better. I don't think this ring can mez the last I checked. This is a utility ring not an end all ring. By the time you can get the last one you will probably be 55+.

I as a druid know that soloing after 55 is basically useless. The ones crying about the druids have never played one. I can't stand soloing anymore, it's boring there is less reward, and I just like being around people.

So quit whining either work the skills and do the quest or don't.
Cool
# Jun 09 2001 at 12:25 PM Rating: Default
All I have to say is this item plus Form of the Howler would be the same as Clarity :) As a druid that hardly goes indoors, that is too awsome...free clarity when no chanters around, how can you beat it?
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 09 2001 at 8:13 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow! only 2 wt? This is a monk item for sure!
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 18 2001 at 11:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) your kidding right? 2 wt? a monk would never wear this pos =)
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 10 2001 at 6:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) your an idiot
RE: druids and clarity
# Jun 09 2001 at 7:19 AM Rating: Excellent
Good grief. Folk read the fine print sometime. Strange that people ***** about druids being able to do a little bit of everything, it was in the job description at beta :) Yes, at a ludicrously high level we get some very low mana regen spells. Yes, we heal, debuff, nuke, buff, keep other people's hinny alive with sow's and such. And we pay for it by being out shined by every other 'pure' casting class. Quite frankly if you are playing any specialized class and getting show up by a druid, in your own area of strength, well... you need to look at your play style again, cause your doing something wrong.I love chanters. Wizards are damage machines (non plane's anyway, cant believe the crud that was done to you guys). Mages, OMG your pets are great, with tons of spells. Shamman I'm so damn jealous of your buffs. Necros, them damn dots of yours are to drool over, not even mentioning pets. Clerics, sheesh makes my piddly heals, well, piddly.

Oh and the guy that said we don't need chanters anymore, ya right.

Anyway, this item is VERY nice, especially considering it's a personal achievement, not some uber guild raid and a lucky role. Quests and company define the game, with out those two elements you may as well go play teams on Quake or some such. Better graphics on the shooters anyway.

Now go play people.
Nice stats
# Jun 08 2001 at 7:44 PM Rating: Good
THIS SHAWL QUEST ROCKS. For me it's perhaps one of the best shoulder items around. Well rounded stat bonuses and an effect. Best of all its upgradeable nature is fun to do.
For those that think playing the game is best done by going from 1 to 60 in a month, You are a loser. You miss so much thinking that pulls have to be constant in order to have fun. Or that a mob should drop the phat loot every time. If they did then it would not be "phat" at all since everyone would have it.
Further who said the quest should be done in a day or a month. You get out of this thing what you put into it. Dont want to follow the quest path? go ahead and lose your stuff when YOU lack the skills to combine them.
For me its a nice mix of hunting and skills development that can only make me a much better player in the long run. Remember quality not quantity of lvls is fun. At lvl 60 a full 95% of the game will be lame green mobs.THEN WHAT?
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 08 2001 at 10:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wow! only 2 wt? This is a monk item for sure!
Interesting......
# Jun 08 2001 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
Enchanter spell levels are:

8, enchant silver
16, breeze, enchant electrum
24, enchant gold
29, clarity
34, enchant platinum
49, enchantment item line complete
52, boon of the clear mind (group clarity)
54, clarity II
59, gift of pure thought (group clarity II?)

once you see the massive line of enchant item spells you can understand why they were given clarity. Also i didnt list their int boosting spell line (

Wizards get Harvest at 34

Necromancers get multiple life to mana spells

so far this is the only item i've ever seen that is magician useable with a mana regen effect on it. (or the only one that can be obtained without doing some sort of event) Of course before you can even get this you need to be able to go to velk's lab, be a cook, a tailor, a potter, a fletcher, a brewer, AND a jeweler of mastery skill level. Not one of these skills i see a mage use on any kind of basis before this. Enchanter make good jewelers, rangers make good fletchers, monks make good tailors and brewers, rogues and shaman make good potters, most people dont cook ingame (and magicians just summon food) all the while the items required are raredrops everywhere all along the line...

iduno about the rest of you out there but i still think this is by far easier to do than the magician epic quest (which has been compared to spending a day with Richard Simmons, a far more plesant experience although less desireable)
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 07 2001 at 11:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok - my last post of the same info was deleted - so i will keep this one even shorter.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 09 2001 at 10:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok you tell me a better item that can be camped and i'll camp it til then i'll do this quest thx
RE: ridiculous
# Jun 08 2001 at 11:04 AM Rating: Decent
I'll go for the simplest most direct answer to all your whining. If you don't like the quest, don't do the quest. This is great for those people who quite honestly enjoy this sort of stuff, they are out there, if you are not one of them go on a raid to Cazic Thule and hope for a good role, whatever. Just stop whining about it sheesh.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 09 2001 at 12:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nobody is whining here.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 10 2001 at 6:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) pp/time ratio, dude what are you talking about.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 10 2001 at 2:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So shaddup already, you and the other guy... go camp stuff )... dont do trade skills, thats fine with me... when luclin comes out with more quests / items involving trade skills, i wont have you to compete against for those things, cuz your skill will be zero hehe
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