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Fur-Lined Coldain Prayer Shawl  

AC: 4
This item can be used in tradeskills.
WIS: +4 INT: +4
WT: 2.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Armor
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Updated By:Byren
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Scars of Velious Item

Rarity: Uncommon
Level to Attain: 40

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# Mar 13 2005 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
34 posts
Seems Pet is the way to go, charmed a snow bunny with my druid to do it. However as you can imagine my pally is having a little more trouble. Any possible way I can do this withouta pet? Or should I simply swallow my good for nothing pally pride and get a Pet class to come help? Thanks for help in Advance.
RE: Pally
# Mar 13 2005 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
3,705 posts
Well, with my cleric I used the time honored method of running around in circles until something spawned, and then bolting for kael if it was a death squad.

Eventually, the dorf spawned, and for me it was while running from a death squad. Luckily he stayed up long enough for me get away from the giants and turn in.
Xaanru's stuff
# May 21 2004 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
21 posts
Took the best of all suggestions on posts and got this shawl in about half an hour.

1. Get a pet (use your's, someone else's, or charm one; I charmed a walrus and used as pet).
2. Place the pet at the top of the ramp to Kael and have it guard.
3. Click on WALK and follow the direction the pet is pointing. (First time I did this I was running instead of walking. I spawned Tannik and ran slightly past him and spawned a Death Squad, they killed Tannik). Watch your screen for the message "the snow crumbles away revealing an injured coldain". Tanik will be laying on the ground.
4. Simply hand him the premade Vial of Velium Vapors. I did not hail him just gave him the vial.
5. Receive note and turn in to Boradinn in Thurgadin; receive 4th shawl


Edited, Fri May 21 10:42:52 2004
The key to spawning Tanik
# Mar 26 2004 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
We have used the following method on 4 shawls in a row and spawned Tanik every time. You need to have a pet for this method to work.

1) Pull and kill the two guards at the bottom of the ramp to Kael.

2) Place your pet at the top of the ramp on the North side and set him to /pet guard.

3) Face your pet and run backwards in the direction your pet is facing.

4) You will hit the trigger that spawns Tanik. Hand him the vial after you hail him and go to Thurgadin to get your 4th shawl.

4 times in a row this has worked to spawn Tanik without triggering ANY Death Squads. Happy hunting!
Getting Tanik to Spawn
# Oct 15 2003 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
37 posts
After triggering the Death Squad about 20 times in a row, I realized that if I ran to the gates of Kael Drakkal and did not go in and zone, Tanik was the next spawn. I triggered the Death Squad all over the place at the end of the ramp but the most frequently triggered area was on the Northern side of the ramp.

My friend tried the same technique and it worked. So far, this has only been tested twice.

Edited, Wed Oct 15 13:16:12 2003
Llorna Doone, 90 Barbarian Shaman of Cazic Thule
Don't Panic!
Completed 4th Shawl
# Apr 20 2003 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
7 posts
Finished the 4th shawl today. Got my pottery up to 132, by making small bowls, then medium bowls them large bowls. Did not fire any, just wrked the pottery wheel. Went to EW and found Tanik at N6750, P4403. Took about 5 minutes to get him to pop, but no Death Squads at all. Good Luck.
Tkab Mortrouge
Dangerous Trick
# Mar 12 2003 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
Got this shawl the other day, but did it in a most unusual way. Per a post I saw on this site, I charmed a snow bunny to point out the hidden NPC. Firt attempt, top of ramp, death squad ate my bunny while I ran lol. Second attempt halfway down the ramp bunny pointed me out of the ramp. Sprung a full death squad of four. Decided my 41 druid needed to run, but pulled a silly.

Instead of zoning to Kael, I ran past top of ramp toward GD zone entrance. About 100 or-so feet past the ramp I hit F9, changed my view to rear and bang. . . death squad triggered our injured coldain friend and kept after me.

Having heard how hard it is to find this guy, I pulled out my vial while swinging a wide turn and got enough space between me and giants to do a quick turn in. Coldain probably sat there about 90 seconds before my turn in and poofed immediately.

Kept running of course and now the shawl is mine. Looking forward to the next step, but for those who live dangerously, consider using the death squad itself to spring your coldain contact. After all, four sets of legs pounding the snow are better than one! :)
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RE: Dangerous Trick
# Jun 06 2003 at 3:24 AM Rating: Decent
44 posts
I can also recommend this trick, as it seems to work, although don't try it without sow =p
Pet Trick
# Sep 30 2002 at 8:47 AM Rating: Decent
68 posts
Helped out a guildmate the other day. She had been there for two hours and no luck. She saw a cleric come with a friend who had a pet and got him to pop within fifteen minutes, so Fluffy and I went to help. First we were to close to the bridge and he targeted the Kael Guards so we moved a bit and within five minutes of being in the new spot we had him. Then high tailed it out and ported.
completed this one tonight
# Aug 23 2002 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
52 posts
Pet trick werks fine. Good ole Zamboni. Look up how tah triangulate before trying this and you'll have no problems finding the trigger spots.

I found somewhere between 10 and fifteen death squads before the little ****** crawled up outa the snow, but they were all easily outrun to Kael. Location was north and a bit east beyond the end of the ramp at about n5800, 3521.

All the trigger spots were on the ground surrounding the ramp to Kael. They weren't necesarily that close to the ramp.

Edited, Fri Aug 23 03:55:17 2002
RE: completed this one tonight
# Nov 25 2003 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
111 posts
I used the pet trick last night to do this part. I got a mage to put his pet at the top of the ramp, and /pet guard, then the mage ran far away so the pet would face nearest NPCs. The first two tries were death squads, which we outran to Kael, 3rd time was the dorf.
Pet Trick
# Jul 30 2002 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
16 posts
Greetings, I did this quest a couple months ago and forgot to post about my experience. Firstly, the pet trick still does work, as of two months ago. I had my druid friend come over to my house and we went to just outside kael above the ramp. He was a 52 Druid and I was about 45 (Enchanter). First we tried the coin trick, was very difficult and we didn't get anything to spawn. Next we tried just running around the left side of the ramp. Got one DS to spawn. Next (3 hours later) we tried the pet trick.
He charmed a wulrus and we both walked the way it was pointing.
We got a couple more DS's after this. Then we both decided to charm a wulrus. This was the pivotal moment of our genious. lol.

He would have it guard, then I would run out at an angle from it and have mine guard. We would then try to figure out the intersection they were pointing at. This worked almost every time. Took about 3 more times then he got his fallen guy, then about 5 more for mine.

Also, dont' know if it was coiencednce(sp?) or not, but if you face kael on the ramp, it seemed to move from left to right, around the ramp. We did it once all the way around, then 2 more at the start.

Ok, well that was a large post.

Oh yea, he's still 52 with his 4th, and I'm a 53 Enchanter, with my 4th. Lol.

Also, my Wizard is 52 with his 2nd.
Hide and Seek
# Apr 26 2002 at 12:14 PM Rating: Default
76 posts
I found Tanik using the pet trick as well. But the coin trick didn't work too well for me; especially when the pet is giving facing a roaming monster in the distance. Besides, the coin trick too WAAAAY too long.

So instead, I did it the old fashion way. I would take a few steps in the direction my pet is facing and then call my pet up to bring up the rare. Have him guard to point the way and take a few more steps. I would repeat until I spawned the DS or Tanik. It only took me 3 trys to find the little dude. But if you do manage to stumble on to the DS, you have exactly 1 second to start running or FD because they will only hesistate for that long.

Most of the time I would just FD and let the DS grind my poor pet into dust. After that, wait until they either wander off or despawn and start again. But, if you are not like a lucky necro like I am, then I would advise you to either do the coin trick or hope you can outrun the DS.
-Gomphe Baniare 80th Level Arch Lich of Innoruuk
-Xanifien Undergrove 80th Seasoned Ranger of Innoruuk
Findng the sneaky guy
# Feb 23 2002 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
From what i understand, the pet trick work but being a chanter my pet is worthless so i tried the coin trick. sat on the far side of ramp with coin in hand moving it around trying to drop it. First couple of time i cot a message, " Your to far away to trade". So figured there was something that way got to where i could trade and BAM death squad. Died twice that way (ack lvl35 **** lvl). So being the hard headed person i am and determined to get this part done i head back. (Note to self: stay away from that trade area) As i contuined to click around i got a different message, " Your to far away to stumble or trade" so i head over that way. And poof there is the coldain. So remeber this guys

"Your to far away to trade" BAD Death Squad trigger

"Your to far away to stumble or trade" Good hidden coldain

Now on to Velk to collect theads
RE: Findng the sneaky guy
# Jun 16 2003 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
Should have tried charming a snow bunny.
"That'll put marzipan in your pie plate, bingo!"
RE: Findng the sneaky guy
# Mar 05 2002 at 2:09 AM Rating: Decent
159 posts
i went near the loc and used th coin trick bam found him in less than 5 min i was told i was very lucky so it works and its fast GL
Finding Tanik
# Jan 28 2002 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
After three days of looking around I tried the Pet Trick, I was able to find him in 7mins. For those who are without pets, try the areas and donít be shy about traveling a good distance out.

I found Tanik on the North Side of the Ramp a good ways out. Apparently he has several possible trigger points, the Ramp itself, North Side of the Ramp and South Side of The Ramp. Donít worry about walking around and waiting, if you walk over him he will pop immediately.
Ok here is the scoop on this guy
# Jan 16 2002 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
I just did this. this A.M.. the guy can not be tracked or camped he is a triggered spawn he is laying in front of the ramp to Kael Drakkel. you have to walk over the spot that he is at to get him to spawn, but becarfull there are also death squad spawn trigger points there as well and they will put a real hurting to you. if you go to this link it will help a lot
Tanik Greskil
# Jan 12 2002 at 6:04 AM Rating: Decent
10 posts
I've been camping this guy, running all over the zone with tracking on, /shout and /ooc till my fingers are sore and the whole zone is complaining about spamming (and yet no one knows...) Where to find this guy! I have the write up of the quest, and on it, it states the approx /loc of him, but I've been there for the past 12 hours and still nothing. People have mentioned that when tracking him, he is listed as, "a injured warrior"..however when I try to hail this NPC, he doesn't respond. My guess, it's not the right character. So what now? Who and where or even what is the Place Holder, for this char? I'm dying to find out! I really want this 4th shawl badly! Any help would be MUCH appreciated!

Barkbite Rootnibbler
48th seasoned treehugger
Clan Lost Wages
RE: Tanik Greskil
# May 20 2002 at 2:57 AM Rating: Default
There is an injured warrior in a coldain camp not sure of the loc but it's possible thats the one your thinking of )
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Part 6
# Aug 28 2001 at 12:03 PM Rating: Default
11 posts
Have been reading and reading. Hopefully I am not getting punch drunk and missing the post. But, I can ont seem to find any information on Part 6? Can anyone point me , lead me by the hand, shove my face into it:) what ever you think will get me the info on part 6 of the shawl quest.

RE: Part 6
# Sep 13 2001 at 9:49 AM Rating: Excellent
3 posts
***Smack*** ***Smack*** ***Smack***

Wake the heck up. Go to Equipment search.
In the Name field type the word.....SHAWL

This will bring up all the shawls in this quest line.

Select the one that has all the stats of +6.

That should help you.

P.S. Shawl 6 is the Embroidered one.
RE: Part 6
# Oct 18 2001 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
24 posts
Also, excellent description of all shawls on - look under recipes.


Chenier Sangeforet - storm warden
# Jul 23 2001 at 1:37 PM Rating: Default
29 posts
Just a thought, but why don't you people post things about this particular item and quest?
If i wanted to know about the 5th shawl i'd look up the 5th shawl.. If i wanted to know about threads needed for a totally different part of the shawl quest i wouldn't be looking at the fur lined shawl (.
Also stop complaining about the quest, if you don't want to do it that's fine.. That means one less idiot hogging the pottery wheel! No one ever said you had to do this quest anyway.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 18 2001 at 9:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) After poking around various locations, I've come to a couple of conclusions.
RE: Threads
# Aug 21 2001 at 7:17 AM Rating: Default
343 posts
Hey guy! Your not too in touch with tayloring, are ya? If you combine two or three silks in a sewing kit (can't remember which) you will have the thread you need.
The Rathe
"When you sit on a hot ash, a second seems like an hour. When courting a young woman, an hour seems like a second. THAT is relativety."
#Anonymous, Posted: May 14 2001 at 4:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
fur lined prayer shawl
# May 13 2001 at 7:08 PM Rating: Default
hello i completed the forth part of the shawl today was fairly easy to get all the parts
and the trade skills were easy to imporve as well.
i now have an item im happy to wear and a nice range slot item too.
the worst part of the quest was the snow griffs in ew for the third part.
the 4th part was a breeze, i spent 3 hours getting pottery up to 128 no problems
brewing and smithing to 40/ and baking to 135, baking gets you some nice stat enhancing food too
so overall no complaints i have enjoyed all the skills and can now make many diff things.
yawn onto tailoring next hehe enjoy.
have fun questing Fizbane Shadowborn 53 mage druzzil ro
Crystalline SIlk Threads
# May 11 2001 at 6:15 PM Rating: Default
They seem to only drop in Velks Lab, about one or two an hour. People in the mid-100's tailoring have failed to make the combine too :(
RE: Crystalline SIlk Threads
# Oct 02 2001 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
/em clears throat

Combining the no-drop THREADS from Velks is trival at 56ish. The threads are not that rare and drop in sets of 2, 3, or 4. The spiders in Safe hall and Top rare tend to drop the most. (in other words toward the top of Velks)

Okay I know this because I am working on this section of the shawl and had 20 points in tailoring before this.

I hope this will help clear up any confusion.
Niobe WebWeaver
Enchantress Hero
Fennin Ro
Wielder of Slither
Step 5 Prayer Shawl
# May 11 2001 at 8:35 AM Rating: Default
I cannot believe we have yet again to master another trade for 1 point of WIS. Not only that but get your smithing and Brewings trades ready as you will not be able to reach master tailor without atleast some skill in those 2. If your lucky you have a friend who can do them. I however do not and will be stopping at step 5.

Time to move to Giant faction
RE: Step 5 Prayer Shawl
# May 17 2001 at 4:48 AM Rating: Default
a shame not everyone notices the fun and variety involved with a quest like this... its about a lot more than +1wis... i am wiz and i have 200+ int so im not doing it for the item so much as i am for the faction and the guild is going with dragon/dorf faction so it all works out great
# May 09 2001 at 7:05 PM Rating: Default
5x Crystalline silk combine in sowing kit = Crystalline Silk Fibre

3x Crystalline Silk Fibre combine in Glowing Shardwurm Bile (container given to you) = 1 Glowing Crystalline Silk

5x Glowing Crystalline Silk combine in sowing kit with the shaw from part 4 of the quest = Your new 5 int shawl...hand shawl to ques guy and get another prize

# May 10 2001 at 2:25 PM Rating: Default
Does not work with crystalline silk
5th part is in!!!
# May 09 2001 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
Does anyone have info on how to make the crystaline silk threads? I have searched everywhere and have found nothing that refers to a recipe for crystaline silk thread. Silk swatches are made by combining 2 silks but thread? In the traditional recipes the silk is created by combining 2 spiderling silks. Unfortunately the crystaline spiderlings drops silks and not spiderling silks. Help please!
RE: 5th part is in!!!
# May 09 2001 at 5:08 PM Rating: Default
I think threads drop off spiders in Velks/CC...(so you only 75 threads..wiht no fails.hehe)
5th part is in!!!
# May 08 2001 at 3:49 PM Rating: Default
I logged in and checked with Borannin after this last patch and guess what!! The 5th part is now in. And it appears you'll need to become a master Tailor to master it. the following was taken straight from my log

You say, 'Hail Loremaster Borannin'

Loremaster Borannin says 'Greetings, Cesare , please be seated and hear the Grand Historian, he is among the wisest of our people.

You say, 'How may I further advance my reputation?'

Loremaster Borannin says 'Cesare ! Thank Brell you're here. I was about to send one of my Lorekeepers looking for you. It appears that the information Tanik acquired is most perilous indeed. The Dain has called an emergency session of the council and I must attend. We don't have the luxury of waiting for an appropriate task to arise, you must advance as soon as possible. Unfortunately, I have neither the time, nor the components to fashion the next few shawls for you. Ask Rexx Frostweaver about the prayer shawl and follow his direction carefully.

You say, 'Hail Rexx Frostweaver'

Rexx Frostweaver says 'Hmmm, ye be one o them offlanders, don't ye? I've heard some strange tales o yer kind so don't be tryin' any funny business with me. I know the value of a platinum piece and I'll not get cheated by yer foreign coin.

You say, 'what prayer shawl?'

Rexx Frostweaver says 'Gather five strands of crystalline silk thread and combine them in a sewing kit to make a crystalline silk fiber. Take this container and combine a glowing shardworm bile with three of the fibers to form a piece of glowing crystalline silk. Five pieces of glowing crystalline silk sewn to your fur-lined shawl will yield a beautiful silk shawl. Become a master in the art of tailoring before risking all you've worked for and be sure to let me inspect your work when it's complete.

by my calculations thats 75 crystalline silk threads that are needed to make all 5 pieces of glowing crystalline silk. My question is this. Are we supposed to hand the 5 pieces of glowing slik along with the 4th prayer shawl back to Rexx, and then he gives us the 5th shawl?

Cesare Sinferno
49 Druid on The Nameless
RE: 5th part is in!!!
# May 09 2001 at 1:02 AM Rating: Default
No, you don't hand in your 4th shawl. The very last step is to sew 5 pieces of glowing silk thread into your 4th shawl. Next, you hand in the new shawl to Rexx, and he should give it back to you, probably along with another item like the 3rd shawl quest (seal.)

The reason you should be a master tailor seems to be that if you fail to combine them, you loose the shawl, and have to start collecting toes, heads, and snow griffin eggs again.
RE: 5th part is in!!!
# May 31 2001 at 7:39 PM Rating: Default
Comin straight from Steve Burke, the guy from Verant who wrote the shawl and ring quest. (taken from in case you dont believe me... )

I wanted to post a few quick points here regarding the Coldain ring and shawl quests in hopes that I can answer many emails at once=).


If you fail the skill check when crafting a shawl you will get the previous shawl back, this has been the case since the quests went live.
That's it for now. Thanks for all the great emails!

- Steve Burke

So you wont lose your shawl... just the silks that take forever to collect...
RE: 5th part is in!!!
# May 08 2001 at 7:47 PM Rating: Default
Are these Silk Threads a new item in the game? I have tried to combine the silks just to get swatches, I have tried to combine the swatches with no luck, I have asked around and read the velious tayloring books but can not find mention of crystallline silk threads, anyone have any ideas?
RE: 5th part is in!!!
# May 09 2001 at 12:56 AM Rating: Default
Maybe just like silk thread, you need to find some crystaline spiderLINGS, get crystaline spiderLING silk...
RE: 5th part is in!!!
# May 09 2001 at 8:30 AM Rating: Default
the Crystalline SpiderLings I killed yesterday are still dropping Crystalline silk, just like the regular crystalline spiders.
The quest-any quest
# Apr 27 2001 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
I don't understand why some people complain about quests. If you don't like them, don't do them. There is plenty of info out to help you decide before you start. I'm a druid and i'm doing the quest because it is challanging and I am enjoying it. If I stop liking it I will do something else but I sure won't complain about it... shissh.
# Apr 18 2001 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
meant to mention also that the bricks of velium also drop in Velks Lab :)
# Apr 18 2001 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
I did some minor hunting (with a party) at the entrance of Velks Lab and silks drop there also...Im 41 if you can find a party wanting to hunt there ...the EXP is outstanding btw...
# Apr 17 2001 at 2:15 AM Rating: Default
Actually us "wisdom casters" with our cords and all can use this, at the very least I'm losing one wisdom and gaining 4 int and 4 sv cold, and probably more as the quest continues. Yes us poor human druids need wisdom too, but after 2yrs+, lvl 54 and counting, I have yet to my wisdom to 200 and I'm not real worried about it will get there in time.

The Seal? got absolutely no use for it at least at this stage plenty of wis items for the range slot.

pottery skill needed?
# Mar 31 2001 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
7 posts
how much pottery skill do you need for this?
Linidar Treeleaf
RE: pottery skill needed?
# Apr 05 2001 at 12:26 PM Rating: Default
I tried at 80 and failed. Tried again ag 120 and failed. I got my skill up to 128 and got it. It was trivial so trivial is somewhere between 120 and 128. Cost me about 50pp to raise my skill and about 1 1/2 hours of boredom.
RE: pottery skill needed?
# Apr 10 2001 at 2:50 PM Rating: Good
I actually sat at the wheel to a skill of 122, which is what the medium bowls max out at, and had no was trivial then.... good luck, Also, The Vellium vapors can be Gotten as many times as you like, as long as you dont have any others in your inv =P Nice item.
how to start
# Mar 31 2001 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
to start this quest chain give 4 frost giant toes to borain
What Lvl is everone ..
# Mar 25 2001 at 5:15 AM Rating: Default
Is next part of quest not available, or is it not available until u are a certain level? I completed at lvl 45?
RE: What Lvl is everone ..
# Mar 28 2001 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
30 posts
They're adding this quest in slowly. Just go back every once and a while after a patch and ask Bor about how to further advance your reputation with the coldain it looks like.
Fenira Jormungundr
Judge of Ice
Proud Member of the Sacred Brotherhood of the Wolf
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 16 2001 at 10:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Was reading these posts and I almost fell over laughing. For those of you who are happy cause this is a quest and not a camp...HELLO!!!!
RE: Quests
# Mar 16 2001 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
Also, forgot to mention in the previous post, but the stuff off the orcs and spiders is used in trade skills as well as this quest.
RE: Quests
# Mar 16 2001 at 10:58 AM Rating: Default
Actually.... This quest requires items that are drops of common monsters, not items from one single rare spawn monster. You don't have to camp one spot in the crystal caverns to get the pieces of velium from the orcs, you could wander around the caves and kill them (this would get you a lot more orcs, but is more risky if you arn't a high enough level to easily kill them). Similar with the crystalline silk from crystal crawlers. In fact, the quest description says that if you camp the spot where you found the dwarf instead of wandering around, you get jumped by giants. This quest, along with the previous quests in the shawl seiries, all seem to be verant's ideas about solving the 'EverCamp' problem with velious.
RE: Quests
# Mar 20 2001 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
103 posts
Whoever originally made that message obviously just doesn't understand that CAMPING an item means you camp the one mob that drops the item for xxx hours until it spawns with it. You can get this stuff while exp'ing, or sometimes buy it from vendors where people have sold it.

These quests are designed for a couple of additional functions that I can see, in addition to being a good quest.

1. It makes you explore zones that you might not have seen before. i.e. Crystal Caverns and maybe Skyshrine, since Velium seems to drop easily there.

2. Money sink. It takes money to raise the trade skills, so some amount of cash is removed from the game. Granted it doesn't cost much to raise pottery up to the desired skill range, but I did dump an extra 100pp or so to get my pottery skill from 122 to 144. Those large bowl sketches were almost 2pp each! Figure on the number of people that NEVER would have raised pottery except for this quest (I'm one of them) and they've pulled some cash from the game.

Couple of notes:

Get someone that has good dragon faction (apprehensive or better) to check the two cooks in Skyshrine for the velium bricks and pieces. I bought all mine plus some extra from them. You can auction for the crystal spider silks easily in EW and crystal caverns also.
no offense
# Mar 16 2001 at 2:34 AM Rating: Default
328 posts
but would any non-caster really want this? It's NO-DROP, so no "farming" (most quest items are anyway), but I can't see any melee/hybrid using this. Just wondering why the all/all. Maybe just to do the quest/get the exp for the quest?
RE: no offense
# Apr 11 2001 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
20 posts
Bah, maybe they want it for the CR? =)

Or the faction with the dorfies
Nilbus Oberlovyn
Brellian Arch Convoker
RE: no offense
# Mar 16 2001 at 6:57 AM Rating: Default
Hmmmm, this is item 4 of a sequntial quest. BTW what is the final item for all these quests? Oh you mean you don't know yet, them maybe the final item will be something a hybred would like. The coldain insignet rings are like that, you have to go almost to the end to get something worth wearing.
RE: no offense
# Mar 16 2001 at 10:37 AM Rating: Default
Not to be snotty or anything, but this ISN"T for hybrids. it's all all just like the insignia rings. an i think it kicksarse that they made a nifty quest like this requiring all the skills i whittled away my low-mid 30's with.
RE: no offense
# Sep 20 2001 at 10:33 AM Rating: Decent
5 posts
As a ikasr shadow knight i am doing these quests shoulder items that are not plate are hard to come by... esp that have decent stats for my class i use a BS mantle for the 10 mr but i'd love to have the 6'th + shawl thats meets the BS mantles ac and has better stats overall.... and the 7th havs a form of breeze on it i solo a lot and mana boost i can get would be least for me these quests lok great for some of us hybreds....

Savlaka Bloodscale
50th season shadow knight
RE: no offense
# Mar 30 2001 at 8:19 AM Rating: Default
I keep hearing so much about this ring quest, EXCEPT where to start it. Does anyone know?

RE: no offense
# Mar 17 2001 at 1:25 AM Rating: Excellent
286 posts
More importantly, how many shawls do you know of that give this much int? And, if it goes all the way to AC 8, +8int/wis/vs cold? My, oh my! Now, to wade into Crystal Caves for some silks...
Sinuuyanea Nocturne, Heretic Mistress of *most* Trades


Know the pain that is Sin!
RE: no offense
# Mar 17 2001 at 4:54 AM Rating: Good
Hear, hear!

You WIS casters may not care much for it with your braided ivory cords and a half dozen other shoulder items, but us poor struggling human wizards with barely enough INT to blow our noses in the morning think that this is a great idea.

Adan Frostfinger
Fiery Justice
RE: no offense
# Mar 20 2001 at 4:35 AM Rating: Decent
57 posts
I'm a dwarven cleric, wisdom is sitting at an even 200 now (with the addition of the seal from the previous step) and I happen to enjoy the quest. I'm doing it, not because it's a great item, but instead because it's something you can't buy. You have to earn it yourself. And some of these steps aren't easy. Feeding the Coldain was hard and this was no cakewalk for me either, two death squads in 20mins and the first one was pretty much instant death. The second one I managed to evade :)
RE: no offense
# Mar 20 2001 at 3:37 AM Rating: Default
Another thing is that is is probably the best shoulder int item I have seen that an Iksar Necro can wear, the second best I've seen is the Mantle of Mirth, which is only 2int, and has a few minuses.

~Rythe Inagony, 50 Iksar Necro of Innoruuk
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 28 2001 at 6:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Wisdom users will only do this quest just to get the very good Seal of Thoridain. Its not worth the trouble to say you want the shawl unless it goes down like the ring and gives you an ac 8 wis 8 shoulder. I could see it as a Shaman/Druid item and NOT cleric. We have way better options than this.
RE: Anyway
# May 17 2001 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
Human wizards? Try getting your INT up as an Iksar necromancer! This quest is a blessing, especially because this race actually starts out as apprehensive to an iksar, which is awesome for someone who is hated everywhere.
different events
# Mar 15 2001 at 8:09 PM Rating: Default
4 posts
Today I was hunting griffs for the early parts of this quest when I heard Tanik casting behind me. so I hailed and he asked for help. so I said I will help you. thats when he said the giants were after him there were coming over that hill. he pointed to hill. kill the leader and give me his vial (this is all paraphrased of course I didn't get a log) Tanik then felldown like he was dead. as soon as he did 4-5 giants spawned and ran to him. I just got out of the way. interesting that this quest can come out more than one way
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 10 2001 at 10:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hes not for that quest you dumn immigrant **** **** you can take taht vial and put it in my **** that isnt tanik its some guy hammerfrost for ring of the 8th quest giatns are hard as hard stuff ye take that! go work at taco bell and make tacos u dirty immigrant. dumn immigrant ways making burritos bla your annoying eat my ****
RE: different events
# Mar 15 2001 at 10:00 PM Rating: Default
Tanik is also for the coldain insignia ring quest. If you are doing that quest, you need to get the head of the named giant that ambushes you and give it to Tanik. This is part of the 4th ring quest.
RE: different events
# Mar 15 2001 at 10:42 PM Rating: Default
That's not Tanik...I'm sure that's not who it is.
RE: different events
# Mar 15 2001 at 11:27 PM Rating: Good
122 posts
The dwarf you are taling about is Tain Hammerfrost. he is just over the first hill west of the bridge and is for the fourth part of the ring quest line.
Dyllwin Dalewalker
Heirophant of the 100th Season
# Mar 15 2001 at 6:47 PM Rating: Default
1 post
If quests like these were the only way to get the "UBER" equpment then EverQuest might be a description as well as a name.

#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 10 2001 at 9:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) god shut up yes verant has lots of items that people "farm" "camp" and whatever *** names people came up with. who cares if it takes time all stuff does seriously is this game eeveryones life? its just a game for enjoyment lighten up chill out. i myself use it to make plans later that night but tahts just ymself yes items that u want are hard and this games good but i think of it this way get high enough go to college play somewhat through college take some massive bonghits than sell your account and make lots of cash and spend it on weed and get more bong hits yippy! bong hits yay! weeds where the fun is at lets call it Everchronic thatd be a fun name the game of smoking dope yay fun yay fun smoke blunts yay heh whatever this post is useless so are all of them if u wanna whine ive been camping this than be on EQ camping it see ya =D
RE: EverQuest.
# Mar 20 2001 at 4:38 AM Rating: Good
57 posts
I happen to enjoy quest far more than camping. Nothing beats soloing low greens for 16 hours waiting for a mammoth cloak. I'd much rather have my wits tested on a quest than my gems skills tested on an endless camp.
RE: EverQuest.
# Mar 26 2001 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
Unfortunately all the "quests" involve camping multiple things each for hours on end, or even worse, training up a skill for days (click click click click) that you will never use for anything else.
RE: EverQuest.
# May 17 2001 at 4:55 AM Rating: Default
How do you know the skill will never be used again... maybe the cats on luclin like exotic pottery, or maybe they hunger for a saucy bunnymeat sandwich ;)
RE: EverQuest.
# Apr 30 2001 at 11:54 PM Rating: Good
Skills you will never use? I for one use pottery alot now that I can make a thurgadin gate potion. as a meelee class it is great to know that I can get out of the planes with a simple click instead of begging some wizzie or druid to port me.
RE: EverQuest.
# Mar 15 2001 at 11:28 PM Rating: Default
122 posts
Hehe, I'm curious why you think they named it EverQuest? It is a description as well as a name, if it weren't for the quests they could have named it EverCamp or EverKill...
Dyllwin Dalewalker
Heirophant of the 100th Season
RE: EverQuest.
# Mar 16 2001 at 10:18 AM Rating: Default
I do see Krystalla's point exactly. FAR TOO MUCH stuff can only be gotten by camping forever... much more of it should be gotten via Quests instead. Two thumbs up to Verant for this shawl line of quests for the Casters, and for the Insignia Ring quests for the Melees.
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