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Black Pantherskin Tunic  
 

MAGIC ITEM
Slot: CHEST
AC: 11
STR: +10 DEX: +10 STA: +10
WT: 0.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: MNK BST
Race: HUM BAR ELF TRL OGR IKS VAH FRG DRK
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Leather 2
Tint:
 
Color (RGB):20, 20, 80
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:26 pp 1 gp 6 sp 0 cp
Tribute:1514
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Updated By:Aanuvane
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Scars of Velious Required: Yes


Average Price: 200pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 1

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# Mar 30 2005 at 12:13 AM Rating: Default
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It would be nice if we could actually see what these Tunics(Black/Haze) look like when worn!!! Dying them to a light color might help. These pictures are poor because the tunics look solid black with no details highlighted.
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whats better
# May 23 2003 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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im just wondering what a good upgrade from BPS is i got a lvl 27 monk and thinking bout upgrading to better gear i know this stuff is good but i want better any ideas??????

Aordan Swiftkill
monk of the 27th season
Spirits of Storm
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The most important thing. . .
# Feb 01 2003 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I just seriously started looking for monk armor (I have a level 10 Iksar monk, I gave up on his newbie quest because it's damn near impossible) and have to say that this looks like the ultimate monk armor. It has decent AC (not spectacular, but decent) terriffic stat buffs, and the most important thing to a monk: LOW WEIGHT. Any other halfway good armor will wiegh a pound or more, which will serioulsy drop your natural AC once your fully in it. I'd give my right arm for a suit of this or Acrylia Studded or Reinforced.
RE: The most important thing. . .
# Mar 03 2003 at 11:01 PM Rating: Default
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I did some calculating and with all BP armor you would get +22AGI and +82AC. Now u said the Ac may only be decent, but AGI also affects your AC(beats the hell out of me why). What I like most about this armor is the DEX. With all of this stuff you get +46 DEX, which is really nice especially if ur twinking a monk. The only flaw in this armor is its cost, and either way of getting this wether it is buying it(which will cost you a Sh*t-load of pp, or you try to make it yourself, which requires a very high lv in tailoring.
RE: The most important thing. . .
# Apr 28 2003 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
"but AGI also affects your AC(beats the hell out of me why)"

Armor Class determines how much you get hit. In reality, if you're very agile, you will be able to dodge and move quickly and easily, thus avoiding hits. Make sense?
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changed?
# Nov 26 2002 at 11:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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It says the item (actually, all pantherskin) was edited. What changed?
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RE: changed?
# Nov 26 2002 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited to include Beastlords as a class able to equip.
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So many opinions
# Oct 03 2002 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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This item is nice. The stats are well rounded, AC a little low but other stats make up for that. I've read this column all the way down and must say that I believe everyone is right to an extint. Monks are pullers and assisters, when you get an add stomping your cleric and there is no enchanter you will be the one chasing that mob down and he will turn on you, thus need more AC. In a good group that mob will be mezzed or rooted and you can go to work on dmg dealing thus higher agi, str, dex. So their are allot of opinions on what stats you need but the best monk is the well rounded monk not to high or low in any level. Not to mention as you progress so do the buffs you will be getting from other players, your best friends should be first a shamana then a cleric. Just my 2c.
#Kanvarwen, Posted: Jul 30 2002 at 4:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) in my opinion Rygorr is better than this it has 1AC and 10str it doesnt have the cool look or the sta/dex, but for anyone below the lvl of 40 Rygorr would be awesome for ya. o yeah I'm looking to buy the tunic on ayonae ro server send me a tell ingame (names Kanvarwen
RE: Rygorr
# Aug 08 2002 at 3:20 PM Rating: Default
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Monks can't wear Rygorr.
Gotta know ppl
# May 02 2002 at 10:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Well i decided not to do this, until i discovered a friend who has a tailoring skill of about 245, and is willing to do my pantherskin armor if i get the gear. I sayed okay, ill camp panthers while foraging yew leaves in WL. Of course, i knew the leaves were rare so i shouted once and a while to buy leaves, and as chance had it, someone sent me a tell saying he had a stack of it. Bonings and skin were easy to get, so now i got plenty of pantherskin armor to make. You just have to know people, and test your luck from time to time, hehehe.
My 2 cents
Btw to make it you need:
1 Black pantherskin (off panthers in WL?
2 Yew leaf tannin (rare forage in WL + water)
3 Velium Bonings (Small brick of velium + file + frost temper at rogue guild in Thurg, 30p each)
4 The pattern of item
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velium boning?
# Apr 29 2002 at 12:09 AM Rating: Default
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how and where do u get velium bonig (name of mob,zone,lvl, and rareness of drop (how many times it drops an hour)) thx, ohh and if merchants sell it where?
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RE: velium boning?
# Apr 29 2002 at 10:09 PM Rating: Decent
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LOL, nope try again. If you want this you will need a Black Pantherskin, 1 Yew Leaf Tannin (Made by brewing a ULTRA RARE ground spawn Yew Leaf and water with skill over 68), a tunic pattern, and 4 Velium Bonings. EACH boning is made by combining a small Brick of Velium with a vile and Coldain Velium Temper (30pp EACH) in a forge with skill of over 150! Once you have everything to even ATTEMPT one combine, it must be combined in a Coldane Tanning Kit and you need a skill over over 200 to even get a 50/50 shot, 250 skill still fails. LOL, have fun!
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# Apr 10 2002 at 5:02 PM Rating: Default
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Well after reading these posts I realize 90% of them are posts by people who ether dont play a Monk or only have a lvl 20 twink....
BP armor still rivals even the new Acrilia, ya ac wise Acrilia is better but thats not gona help you. This is high lvl armor for a reason, there are no resists on it, ever hear of Blue Diamond armor? any half decent 50+ monk has at least BD Earings and Bracers in his Tink bag, so forget resists. AC well butt nakked my AC is over 900, with full panther its 1100, not bad at 54 but my HP and yes that is VERRY important is extreemly high due to the +STA, and +HP. The more AC and HP you have the longer you have to live to get the pull compleeted. Anyone who thinks otherwise should delete there Monk Twink and make a Warrior.
So whys it decent, most pices have all the needed stats for a Monk first AC, second HP/STA, Third STR, and for those Procs like SoS T Staff etc DEX. All in all this armor is awesom unless you got ToV Thurg or PoA ide sugguest 50+ keep there eyes open for BP Armor.
#bobjohnson, Posted: Mar 24 2002 at 2:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 77ac 41 str 34 sta 46 dex 22 agi...in a nut shell
RE: full suit
# Jul 26 2002 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
I'd like to make a small correction(think you left out other wristband)here and add a bit to this conversation. First off, here are the total stats of each for comparison....

BP Acrylia
Ac 89 94
Str 46 47
Dex 46 0
Sta 33 38
Wis 0 20
Agi 22 0
H.P. 85 24
Sv.M 0 9
Wt. 4.7 5.6

By looking at the figures it is easy to see that Acrylia is better for Bst. than it is for monks. The wisdom and save magic is give away. The Panther skin on the other hand truly has the monk in mind. High dex, and agi along with hp and ac.
To just go out and buy it, it can be expensive, but having a fellow guildie do it for you can be very reasonable in cost. I am going to do all i can to get some of this gear. I already have some items that are better as far as i'm concerned, but for the most part, this is great monk gear.
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RE: full suit
# Sep 19 2002 at 3:46 AM Rating: Decent
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That would be the reason that BP is for monks.
#WoodyWaralot, Posted: Mar 06 2002 at 5:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Does anyone now what i should give my new monk stead of this?? i am going to have a full suit of wu but that will leave me with alot of money left over. if it drops even better.if it needs to be tailored i can manage that with y guild plz include names nat abbreviattions..what would be best to twink a monk with about 1000 pp,plz dont count the tailoing cost beacause i have a tailor.Also if anyone knows a good monk item that drops easy for a lvl 40 or so plz tell me
Leaves
# Jan 25 2002 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
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where do you get the yew leaves?
RE: Leaves
# Nov 26 2002 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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Rare forage and Rare ground spawn... get it while you're doing the panthers
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Resists
# Nov 17 2001 at 6:30 AM Rating: Default
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People, you nuts...monk past 45 think resists!!!
your AC wont save you, your Agi wont save you, only your FD and your tanks will save you...but only if u can get back to the damn tank, and at 50+ u better have MR buddie or your a dead monk.
this stuff sux unless you can make it yourself, or want it for looks, but if u ask me iceicle tunic looks better) just my opinion...

Tumtuk Kyckabut
47lvl human Monk
Mith Marr
RE: Resists
# Jul 26 2002 at 7:47 AM Rating: Default
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DUH! A monk needs resists.... Dont you think a monk has a few BD bracers, earrings in his inventory??? They dont NEED a tunic with resists!

Thats all Later
DUH
# Nov 15 2001 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
hey i was just wondering if anyone actually KNEW how to MAKE this tunic???
please e-mail with answer
recopatr1@cs.com
Beastlords.
# Sep 29 2001 at 6:03 PM Rating: Decent
If BL can wear this, then I'd like to get some on SZ. anyone have a link to a site that has a list of what is needed to make? and when it's trivial? would be much appriciated. thx
RE: Beastlords.
# Nov 19 2001 at 4:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Hail Zant, what guild u belong to on SZ? any who I have a character on there also, and the website you are looking for is

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/Skills/Tailoring_Reinforced_Black_Panther_Skin.html

Jaraxle
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Must buy
# Sep 04 2001 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
I want to buy some black pantherskin on Quellious name Zazomy Goldenfist
Monk Armours
# Aug 28 2001 at 10:28 AM Rating: Default
Let's set the record straight here. Playing a Monk is all about not getting hit, we are not tanks, we pull, plain and simple.

I've seen Monks wear Cured Silk until well into there 30's with no trouble at all, because they don't try to play there Monk like a Warrior.

Wu's is obviously considered the standard armour for Monk's under 20, or even under 30, if you are not talking twinks of course.

Since the weight change I see Panterskin as the replacement for my Wu, just as I saw Wu's as the replacement for my Cured.

The last point is this is tailored armour, that looks good, and has decent stats. I would feel good wearing this knowing I had made it.
Not just for monks anymore...
# Aug 16 2001 at 10:47 PM Rating: Good
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With the latest patch, black pantherskin armor has become usable by Vah Shir Beastlords. Very interesting...
http://www.rpi.edu/~pattem/eq/bp1.jpg
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 02 2001 at 9:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Unless you are an idiot of a monk, an solo all the time, then you would know that monks don't get hit that often, WE ARE NOT TANKS, we are damage dealers, now about the Ac thing, WE DON'T NEED HIGH AC! We deal damage, the warriors/shadowknights/Paladins TAKE dmg...we just let them get beat up while we beat on the mob, and if you get too much aggro, you stop, feign, an get back up an start dealing dmg again, Now if you are a smart monk you will go for stats instead of AC/Hp, For monks, Ac/hp is NOT king...it's near useless, as we are not tanks and are not ment to take dmg, we have every skill imaginable to avoid dmg...hmm...i wonder why...maybe we aren't ment to have high ac/hp to take the dmg for some odd reason...
RE: Monk stats
# Aug 15 2001 at 6:46 AM Rating: Good
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ummm this is from a warriors perspective, but most of the monks i meet in the dl (im only lvl 47) are twinked out through the nose and taunting anything off them is a lesson in futility. Any monk that disregards ac is a dead monk. specially if u bet on the the notion that some warrior with no haste belt and big long delay weapons is gonna be able to taunt a mob off u in the heat of the battle. maybe at 55+ when all the wars have lammy's we might be able to get mobs off ya but till then, keep your ac up.

Fendrish Missesalot
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47 Barb Warrior
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RE: Monk stats
# Jun 04 2002 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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ok use sneak war gets aggro you sneak get up and start attacking there is a good chance you wont re aggro even if your superoutdamaging a warrior just something to think about...
RE: Monk stats
# Apr 02 2002 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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FD will get agro off the monk...but not when you are in the endgame...mobs reagro after 40...somethin to think about
RE: Monk stats
# Oct 03 2001 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Monk AC rivals Warrior AC untill Plane armor due to the AC bonus.

49th lvl monk
921 AC
armor: Wu's, Panter, Fungi tunic.

Note: I see a lot of monks running around with Serpentine bracers. This is a very bad idea. the stats are nice but severly lackin AC (ac:1)
Also!! Orc fang earrings or cougar claw earrings are a great little boost to AC.

Always watch yer weight, this will seriously hinder AC. (15+1/10 lvls or something like that)

Monks are not build for tanking, but for a few levels in the high 40s and low 50s before the warrios get plane armor we truly shine. :)

Just my 2 CPs.
RE: Monk stats
# Sep 06 2001 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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UMMMM it's called Feign Death (or FD) and that WILL get all aggro off the monk. Any monk that has put any time in skills should be able to FD and if they can't because they were to busy twinking and not thinking then they do desire to learn the hard way.


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RE: Monk stats
# Nov 25 2002 at 7:01 PM Rating: Decent
I play a 54th level Monk. Fd is WONDERFUL. I maxed the skill out 5 minutes after I dinged 39. However, there are TWO things you either DON'T know about or that you are overlooking. One, in the high end game, when you FD then stand back up, you WILL reaggro the MoB. This happens on MoBs higher then level 36. The only way to remove the aggro is to FD, then wait until the other Melee's have beat on the mob enought that they have outdamaged you and you are now lower on the hate list.
Two, FD will make you lie down on the groung and play dead 99 percent of the time. Yet, even with the skill maxed out I have had situations where I have failed my FD check 6 or 7 times in a row. Also, any spells that hit you after you FD will cause FD to break. So when you have 3 Froggie casters in Sebillis chain nuking you, FD don't mean diddly. You better have your resists up or you are GOING to die. And let me tell you something about resists. Resists are like stats, you are not going to max them out on four or five items. You need to make sure that it is spread out amongst ALL your gear. It's great to carry around two BD earrings for resists, but what do you do when you are pulling Estrella in Kedge Keep and your EB item is a Fishbone Earing? Switch to the BD everytime she casts a spell???? No. So make sure that you spread the resists around to as much gear as you can. If anyone wants to make a comparison of equipment, don't compare the Panther armor to Acrylia, try compariong it Grey Flesh. Then you will see a good mix of ac/hp and stats. Grey Flesh Tunic, Hardened Grey Flesh Arms, Grey Flesh Leggings, Footpads of the Tiger, Shimmering Terror Hide Cloak, Clattering BOne Necklace, Shackle of Tynn, Wristband of the Broodling, Shissar Scaled Headband and Silver Shiverback Hide Sash. Throw in the Epic for gloves and you have a NICE set of Base Armor to work off of.
Mission: Impossible Yew
# Jul 21 2001 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I went to Wakening, and killed panthers for 3 hours. I now have a few black panther skins and one haze panther skin. Yew leaves are sold for 100p a piece on my server. I hung out for a while with the intention of finding some but got very bored with that. The tough part about this is that while 2 of the 3 components are easy to find, yew leaves are nearly impossible to scrounge up. I bought them and saved myself the trouble. The boning is easy to make. I don't tailor, but I have a grandmaster tailor in my guild. All in all it was pretty easy to get everything I needed. It was most definitely time consuming, but this armor is really pretty decent. The ac is... quite honestly not spectacular. The fact that it doesn't have resists is kind of disappointing too. But with the other stats you get from the armor, maybe you'll trade in your jewelry for something with better resists. /shrug
The weight is far more monk-friendly now... and it certainly looks pretty cool.


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Level 50 Monk's Opinion: Part 2
# Jul 11 2001 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I am going to ammend my earlier scathing remarks about this item. In a recent patch, the weight was reduced to 0.5. That makes this item a decent (but not great), wearable item. The price it sells for (5000 pp) is a bit extreme though. I do not mean that tailors should not sell it for that. This item is not trivial at 230 skill. I am not sure if it ever trivials. The ingredients are hard to come by I am told. What I am trying to say is that if you have 5000 pp, you would probably be better off getting a chest armor ALMOST as good as this one (like the CCS) for a great deal less money or even for free (if you camp it your self) and spend your money on something else. As another person pointed out, this item's weak spot is that it has no resists. Except for weapons, every upgrade I make now includes resists. Also, with the recent weight reductions of the pantherskin items, the demand for them will increase. This will mean that the items required to make this item will become scarcer and the price will increase accordingly making it even less worthwhile to obtain.

Level 50 Monk's Opinion
# Jul 10 2001 at 4:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok, this item is definitely NOT worth getting. If it was given to me for free, I MIGHT wear it to replace my ROTWF when I get my CF's. More than likely I would wear that CCS I have stashed in the bank. Ninety-five percent of the time, if a piece of armor is monk only, it is inferior to the ALL/ALL item we usually wear in that slot.

As to those who THINK they know what a monk's role in combat is and what type of equipment a monk should wear, think again. A monk has two major goals with his equipment and these are pretty much the same goals that all other melee types have. Those goals are first (and most importantly) survival, and secondly damage output.

SURVIVAL:

The most important stat is AC, followed closely by resistances and HP/Stamina. The next most important stat after these is agility which affects our odds of successfully using our defensive skills. The degree to which agility affects us is a matter of debate. The much vaunted stat of strength is nice to have but has very little effect on damage output unless you have a really, really high strength. I would rather have a 10 AC item than a 6 AC item with 4 strength any day of the week. Unless you are a rogue, dex is a joke. It's only use for a monk is to make weapons proc more and even then its effect is minimal. Some people point out that a monk has AC comparable to any other tank, but there is a deception in that AC. Verant has admitted that AC is a combination of two numbers. One number is damage avoidance and the other is damage reduction. A monk with an AC of 1000 might have 750 points of damage avoidance and 250 points of damage reduction. A warrior with an AC of 1000 might have 300 points of damage avoidance and 700 points of damage reduction. At higher levels, particularly if a foe cons red, the monk will get hit for maximum damage just as if he were sitting down. I am sure you casters out there know what I am talking about. Basically, if you want to know what your damage avoidance AC is, remove all your equipment and see what your AC is. This AC value is based on your Defense skill, your class, and maybe your agility (not sure on that last one.) A naked level 50 monk usually has about 750 AC naked. My level 50 monk has 910 AC fully equipped. That means that only about 160 points of my AC are in the damage reduction category. Casters can beat that.

Also important to survival is how much a monk aggros a creature. It is very difficult for warriors, etc. to keep aggro off of a monk of about their level. Yes, we can stop attacking, back off and FD to lose aggro, BUT that kind of defeats the purpose of having a monk along by greatly reducing our total damage for a fight. Monks sometimes deliberately reduce their fighting effectiveness just so they will aggro less and give the tank a chance to keep aggro.

DAMAGE OUTPUT:

Some argue that a monk should concentrate completely on equipment that makes him do more damage, and charge into the fray like a berserker doing unholy amounts of damage, and then die like a man. This is fine if you are trying to kill Trakkanon or something, but for day to day playing it is ridiculous. Even if I had my own pet 60th level cleric to give me a high level rez every time I died, I would still get negative xp every day using this philosophy.

I have noticed that the people praising this item tend to fall into one of two categories. One category is low-level monks who simply don't know any better. The other is non-monks. Now why would a non-monk even care about this item? I can think of only one reason that a non-monk would even look at this item and that is if they are a tailor who wants to make it and sell it. Now it becomes obvious why non-monks make postings here in praise of this item. No doubt when they were raising their tailoring skill, they saw the price-tag on this baby and thought they could make a killing. Then, they finally make one and NOBODY wants to buy it. So what do they do? They come here and make postings that praise this item as incredibly nice to have and well worth the cost. They denounce the experienced monks who know it is of little practical value despite the difficulty involved in making it as if they knew more about the class than people who have been playing a monk for a year or longer. Well, forget it. It won't work. Any monk that has enough money to afford this has enough experience to know not to buy it. You might fool a power-levelled twink, but you won't fool anybody else.

Argfeld
Level 50 Monk
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RE: Level 50 Monk's Opinion
# Aug 08 2001 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
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You're forgetting that not everyone will be buying these outright. I agree it's not worth nearly the 14k currently listed as the the average price if you want a functional piece of armor. It still shouldn't be sold for significantly lower (5k-7k might be appropriate, but no less) due to the difficulty of making one--some people with lots of money to spend want a unique look, and once money's no object there's something to be said for that. Who said the tunic would necessarily be used in battle?

I made one for myself mostly for the tailoring practice. I spent a full day collecting components for 13 attempts plus about 1400pp in tempers, and the resulting tunic is well worth my effort. Another person is providing components hoping I'll succeed in making one for him too.

I'm surprised you'd think of using a crystal covered shroud over this except when the sv cold+10 on the shroud matters (and admittedly that is nice on occasion) or when you want the wis+4 or int+4 for trade skills. The sta+10 more than makes up for a loss of 1 AC--it gives me about 30 hp now, and should give 40hp at level 60 if for some reason I haven't replaced it by then. Sta gear, I'm noticing, isn't easy to find, and many people recommend putting a lot of points into sta at creation. The extra str and dex are nice bonuses especially if you do have a weapon whose proc is helpful (like a proc that stuns), even though the effect is small. If weight is a consideration, this tunic wins again with a weight of 0.5 instead of 1.0.
(Edit: Somehow I missed your second post above...now I realize you were talking about the tunic when it weighed 2.5. With the old weight I suppose I'd consider the shroud over the tunic...)

Also, I don't think that all of a monk's natural AC is avoidance...I think it's a mix of the two that favors avoidance. My druid fully equipped gets hit roughly as hard as my monk without equipment if you remove blocks/dodges/ripostes, so the natural AC can't be _all_ avoidance.

Aggro management is very important of course, but more or less irrelevant to this armor...switching to 2hb and waiting a couple seconds before engaging a creature will do far more than changing your equipment. You said yourself that the effect of str and dex is small...
this armor
# Jun 12 2001 at 6:59 AM Rating: Default
Let me throw in a little item alot of you guys seem to be missing. Yeah the Stats are decent. The weight Sucks. It has some AC. but.....

And these are big Buts.....

it has a high weight and NO RESIST!. Monks are pullers. We are not tanks. We do damage and split mobs. The one thing that kills more monks when splitting mobs is not being hit on but the damn casters. Consider your resists when looking at tyour total armor package.

RE: this armor
# Aug 07 2001 at 10:39 PM Rating: Default
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Ummmm wt is 0.4
#Anonymous, Posted: May 24 2001 at 1:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I buy it!! on Fennin ro
Hmm
# May 20 2001 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Only thing I wanna know is where is the velious plate and chain recipes for smithing? this new tailored stuff is awesome, need some stuff for pure casters and plate wearers to.

Alagarn
Good
# Apr 18 2001 at 2:31 PM Rating: Default
A full set wouldn't be THAT heavy. Besides, you don't have to go to a plane and hope you win just a piece of uber armor that isn't too much better. Looks cool as well.
RE: Good
# Jun 25 2001 at 1:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't think anything uber drops for monks on the planes :/
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price?
# Mar 18 2001 at 5:15 PM Rating: Decent
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anyone know what blakc panther skin goes for and is anyone making it on druzzil ro yet?
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recipe please
# Mar 02 2001 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default
I need the recipe for these items, some of them will prove to be quite usefull. Others are not, end of story.
RE: recipe please
# Mar 27 2001 at 8:21 AM Rating: Decent
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1 Black Pantherskin + 1 Yew Leaf Tannin + the pattern + 4 Velium Boning
RE: recipe please
# Apr 03 2001 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
Ok, so the Black Pantherskin would come off the Panthers in Wakening Lands. So where does the Yew leaf Tannin come from? Im assuming the pattern is bought in either Kael or Thurgadin and there was a post aleady about making the Boning's. Any further info would be appreciated. Thanks
RE: recipe please
# May 18 2001 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Yew Leaf Tannin's are foraged, I believe.
RE: recipe please
# May 21 2001 at 12:37 AM Rating: Good
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Yew leaves are ground spawns in Wakening Lands. They look like small green rectangles and blend in with the ground very well (not to mention that they are two-dimensional shapes, so you won't see them well from the side). If you have any evergreen leaves, misty acorns, or oak bark, these have the same appearance. They are a pain to find; I've had the best luck in the northeast corner by the sifayes and running along a diagonal northwest/southeast strip that cuts the zone in half. Apparently they can spawn nearly anywhere in the zone outside the lake though. Pulling panthers nonstop I can usually get maybe 1 or 2 an hour; ultravision helps, as does an elevated camera angle. Wear resist gear too, the holgresh are nasty spellcasters...and watch out for Wuoshi if you haven't brought your ClawsofVeeshan faction up to dubious or higher.

To make the tannin, combine the yew leaf and a flask of water in a brew barrel. Trivial at a brewing skill of 68, according to EQTraders (www.eqtraders.com).
OMG STOP IT!
# Feb 28 2001 at 9:43 AM Rating: Default
First off compare stats to shiverback tunic
11ac 13str 9dex 9agil. so stats are about the same just sta instead of dex. they couldnt make the tunic better than shiverback cuase then everyone would bitch about that. yeah sure it does weight alittle. but these peices are only meant to be worn as single or few peices not the whole set at a time unless you like looks.

IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT WEAR IT! go get your guild take down PoG 30 times and get a full set of silvermoon or fear and get shiverback... ohh wait nm some of those peices suck to.

Maybe should should shut up about this cuase i think verant did a good job. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GO PLAY DAWN, CAMOLOT, ULTIMA or the other new games coming out!
#Anonymous, Posted: May 11 2001 at 8:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) All u other ppl responding to this can suck my anus, it's just a goddam game, and if this is your whole life, than u are just a huge high school loser with no life or some dude on welfare that cant keep a job because they're "addicted" to a stupid game... it's just an item (a good item) and there are better, SO STOP BITCHING!!! besides, with the new weight allowence patch, you can now SHUT THE @#%^ UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 09 2001 at 12:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't like, I won't wear it.
RE: OMG STOP IT!
# Mar 11 2001 at 4:14 PM Rating: Default
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What gives you the right to tell people how to react to items? they pay for this game just as you do and have a right to their opinion. If you don't like what they are saying about it just don't read it. I'm not telling you what to do, I'm just saying that you have no right to tell people to shut up on their opinions, even if they are whining brats...
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#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 26 2001 at 4:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And what gives you the right to tell him not to express his dislike for your opinion! hah, you selfish sob!!!!!!!
RE: OMG STOP IT!
# Jun 04 2001 at 9:12 PM Rating: Default
One time I got home early and I found my parents wrestling in their bedroom NAKED!! My daddy was body splashing my mommy over and over. He must have been doing really good because my mommy kept saying YES! YES! so I didn't call the cops or nothing. I would marry Tunare if she wasnt so bichy. I wish her and Cazic-Thule could just get along. If you wear gnome skin boots and go to a'kannon would you be KOS? Why do people think that just because they can't do anything right for their drunk daddy, that they can act like they know everything to other people? Bunnies eat radishes so they can make babies :)
RE: OMG STOP IT!
# Jul 05 2001 at 11:23 AM Rating: Default
EXACTLY!
Tailored equipment
# Feb 27 2001 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
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As I see it tailored stuff is supplemental to whatever you go find on your advcntures (yay let's go camp some stuff - *gag*) so if you've had some trouble finding some nice boots or arms or need a new bracer or whatever then you can go kill panthers or tigerraptors or whatever and get a tailor to make you the bits you need.
I can't imagine anyone making a full set of this stuff except for twinking purposes (would be pretty cool with a complete look to start with).

just my 2cp
tell me if I'm wrong
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F'd in the A with no L
# Feb 26 2001 at 2:47 PM Rating: Default
well boys and girls it goes to show that VI doesnt like monks still. Just compare the stats on this to the rogue armor and weep. forget the ac because we get a nice ac bonus but just look at the stats... <sigh>
/em looks for a log to bend over
Khaltos looks for a log to bend over
/shout ok come do me again you bastages!!
Khaltos shouts ok come do me again you bastages!!
RE: F'd in the A with no L
# Jul 05 2002 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, back, and I've done the math, yet again :/ heres how the stats break down, monk gear vs rogue gear,

monk, ac 89 str 44 sta 34 dex 44 agi 22 :( cha 11 ? hp 95 wt 5.5


rogue, ac 107, str 73, sta 56, dex 70, agi 101 !! cha 3, hp 50, wt 19.2


yes, it is unbalanced, but so are the classes. yes rogues are a little slow doing damage when you look at hit per hit, but overall, as one time verant said, the highest damage dealer go from rogues to monks, why? rogues do get dual wield and double attack, so do monks, monks get awesome kicks and punches, rogues get a backstab that does at least 2 times the damage that monks kick does, highest ive seen a monk kick for was 180 ish, highest ive seen a backstab for, 278 ish, by a level 45 rogue. of course the rogue had buffs, but so did the monk, /shrug. just throwing my mindless prattle out to the yard for others to pick apart.

Edited, Fri Jul 5 22:18:46 2002
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RE: F'd in the A with no L
# May 21 2001 at 12:45 AM Rating: Good
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Keep in mind haze panther skins for the rogue armor are much more difficult to get.
In the time that I've collected over 20 black panther skins I've only gotten 3 haze panther skins. Haze panthers are higher level, spawn about 1/10 as often (my very rough estimate) and can turn invisible.

If it wasn't for the yew leaves, black panther armor would be great for skilling up.
RE: F'd in the A with no L
# Mar 06 2001 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
*whine, snivel......wimper wimper.....but what about us?......the ROGUES get better gear....wimper wimper......* Ever played a rogue? they suck.....Monks totally outdamage them, get MUCH better weapons, have MUCH better skills....quit WHINING!! if you dont like your monk so much & think rogues have it better, hmmm....suggestion....GO PLAY A ROGUE!
RE: F'd in the A with no L
# Apr 09 2001 at 1:05 AM Rating: Default
LOL, FOAD also, thx~ QQ
RE: F'd in the A with no L
# Apr 08 2001 at 7:39 PM Rating: Default
or just STFU, STFD and play your class or quit. rogues and monks tear it up, who cares who outdamages the other. just kill the mob's and get your exp and l3wtz and be happy or dont play at all. no one is forcing you to play EQ. sheesh.
SUX's
# Feb 25 2001 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I dont think Verant cross refrences their CLASS armor against other items...! A Crystal Covered Shroud is a better peice of Equipment and can be found relativly easy OR bought for 1200pp

As i Tailor this item sux to SELL. and the time it takes to retrive the components and the risks of Failor do not justify Risk vrs Reward.... and not to mention R vs R + Time consumption...!

The Chest Peice of Any set of Armor Sets the standard for that Set... AC+11 .. ? WTF is that.. ? I am not asking for UBERism, just reward for my Skills and TIME (and risk).

This Armor should read:
Ac+14
STR+10
STA+10
DEX+10
Effect: Panthar sight (Ultravision)
WEIGHT: 1.5

and all the rest of the peices should scale from this.... Not UBER but acceptable...!


my 3 cents
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RE: SUX's
# Feb 26 2001 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
funny you say that this sucks after all my main is a monk and to me this looks great monks are not made to take hits we are made to give them if you want high ac make a warrior or some other tank class monks get the best weapons but you also think we should get the best armor can we say some one is a bit one sided
RE: SUX's
# Apr 09 2001 at 12:48 AM Rating: Default
Would you please, either get a clue about your main, or go back to your Necro. Thx.
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 25 2001 at 4:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Become a rogue or a ranger, then you get the good ones, the rogue tunic is ac 14 str 14 sta 10 agi 20 dex 10 all resists +5, the ranger cloak is ac 9 str 8 dex 10 sta 6 wis 6, hehe ya monks are just being screwed is all
how to make?
# Feb 25 2001 at 10:16 AM Rating: Default
what do you need to make it i am assuming the panter skins from wakening but what else
Disappointing
# Feb 24 2001 at 6:09 PM Rating: Default
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This suit of armor sucks for the weight, for the AC, for the stats in_relation_to the other classes' tailored items, for the diffuculty in acquiring the components, and for the extreme difficulty in tailoring.

This stuff should be trivial at a 100 skill, and the components should be merchant provided.

WTG yet again, Verant.

You have become better at Disappoint (201)

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#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 24 2001 at 10:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh yes, all this Shadowknight, Paladin, Wizard, etc. tailord items are soooo superior to the monk stuff. All the monks, rogues, and rangers seem so disgruntled by the inferiority of these items. At least its another option for you to use instead of going around and camping for armor like every other sucker out there. (you want to complain about this armor being tough to get the components for, try getting full darkforge, Without buying it or pharming it with a higher char)
RE: Disappointing
# Apr 09 2001 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Huh?

If I understand correctly, you low-rated my post, are not a monk, and, rather than construct a counter-argument about AC/weight ratios, hurl meaningless drivel about "other classes" into a discussion about *the* Monk tailored armor.

Hmmn...

Next Idi0t, please.
RE: Disappointing
# Feb 25 2001 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
11 posts
Bonuses:
new look
don't have to camp insane camps for it
ok ac and stats
Downside:
WEIGHT - this armor series sucks for monks!!!
~maybe~ the gloves are worth it

I bet absor thought this stuff up saying "monks will like this and it will add character balance to the game, they can't complain anymore"
RE: Disappointing
# Apr 09 2001 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I am laughing with you, Xi~, not at you :) it is ok to disagree on a few points.

LoL Gloves worth it?
Um.. two words:

Celestial

Fists

Some assembly required. ^ ^
(* Note Gauntlets of Firey Might, also)

New look? No, but not that it matters... it's so dark blue, it's black... no-one believes that black leather is "new", right ?

Don't have insane camps for it?
What's an insane camp? If not ALL camps ?

Black panthers are, no pun intended, 'pussies' at the level you can hunt them in a group... but there's this little problem of actually making it- *then* it not being worth the reward.

Try looking here, and remember that Human Monks CANNOT FORAGE =/

http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_velious_leathers.htm

Ok Ac and stats?
ROTFLMAO!!

um.. Tunic.. less AC than the Lockjaw Vest I've had since level 20... and stats... on par with Shiverback... but it weighs 2.5 ! LOL!

Go to the above link, and look around... you'll notice a COMPLETE LACK OF SAVES on the Monk armor.

[...]This armor sucks for monks!!!
I agree completely!!!

Good Day.
Nice Suit
# Feb 24 2001 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
Here's the total stats for an entire suit of this armor:

AC:89
STR:44
STA:34
AGI:22
DEX:46
CHA:11
HP:95
WT:13.5

So it does weigh in at right under the weight limit at the lower levels. Sure, if you add in rings, earrings, range and inventory your going to go over unless all you have are tinker bags. But with the weight limit increases at higher levels (which this stuff) is designed for you should have no problem staying under the limit and still operate at peak performance. You can also trade out pieces that aren't quite as good like the mask, neck, belt and cap.

Besides, have you seen a player in this stuff yet? Its a cool dark blue-black color like a black panther.
RE: Nice Suit
# Feb 25 2001 at 4:21 AM Rating: Decent
There is no weight limit increase as of yet. It is being submited as a balancing issue but has not been finalized yet. It's possible there will never be one.
RE: Nice Suit
# Feb 26 2001 at 10:56 PM Rating: Default
yeah there is 55 monks are 18wt and 60 you are 22 wt
Velium Studs / Boning?
# Feb 24 2001 at 8:14 AM Rating: Default
Does anyone know how to make velium studs / boning (i assume they are made, at least) I tried making velium bits by combining 2 stackable velium pieces and a flask and it said items do not combine blah blah.... I can't seem to find the recipes anywhere. Any help is much appreciated.
RE: Velium Studs / Boning?
# Feb 24 2001 at 9:05 AM Rating: Default
You don't use flasks with Velium smithing, you have to use Velium Temper which can be bought in Thurgadin.
RE: Velium Studs / Boning?
# Feb 24 2001 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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1 Velium Temper+ 1 Small Brick of Velium+ File= 1 Boning. Velium Temper is bought in Thurgadin off a vendor in the building to the left of the mines. Small bricks of ore drop off of many mobs, crystal caverns has Orc Miners who drop them often. File is player made as far as I know and is reusable each time whether you suceed or fail to make boning. Hope that helps. :) Good luck.
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Sweet
# Feb 23 2001 at 8:44 PM Rating: Default
This is one sweet tunic.......
RE: Sweet
# Feb 23 2001 at 9:16 PM Rating: Default
AC could be better.
RE: Sweet
# Feb 23 2001 at 11:05 PM Rating: Default
I'm thinking it's a little heavy for a monk.
RE: Sweet
# Jul 05 2002 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I did the math friend, *all* the black panther gear weighs a *total* of 5.5 stns, add your 2 tink bags, and say, 8 stns in weaps, and your at 15.5 wt, by the time you should have this stuff and your 2 tink bags, you should be above level 40, where your wt is permited to be 18, so that leaves quite a bit of weight left over for your plat, 2.5 stns, and thats using all 8 stns for weaps, use lighter weaps, carry more coin. Im not using actual weapon wts, but count those in and your set. right now my 30 monk would love just a few pieces of this, let alone the entire set, but,, /shrug. be a while yet for him to get some. I'm using a CoT and a springwood club, add it all up, Im at 11.2 wt, 11.6 counting ears and ringer rings. 11.6, and the tunic is too heavy. if ya cant get your hands on tink bags, go the old way, get a high level mage to summon you some glowing back packs or better containers, put all summoned stuff into bags, go get a duel, die, run back, loot the non summoned stuff, sit, camp, log in, loot, and your set, once again. My 30 monk has been hunting FM using this technique, and its fun seeing people wonder about my weight when im looting leg choppers and tree flayers. enough of my rambling, have fun, stay safe

Edited, Fri Jul 5 22:03:54 2002
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RE: Sweet
# Aug 07 2001 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
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WT IS 0.4
RE: Sweet
# Feb 24 2001 at 1:20 AM Rating: Good
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We can handle a little weight..consider this...if all your other armor is .1, then your total armor weight is only 4 or so wearing this. Since our cap is 14 thats not bad at all.

Long as we are under 14 we are good.

Right now I'm wearing Uthork boots and bracers, and while as heavy as leather, my total weight is still under 14 and the extra AC really helps. Plus the boots are +3 dex.
RE: Sweet
# Feb 24 2001 at 2:40 AM Rating: Default
um ya, i cant take this extra weight.... why do we have a weight cap anyway? i cant take this... :p
RE: Sweet
# Mar 21 2001 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
umm, ever seen a martial artist wearing leather or chain? That's why the weight limit! Kind of hard imagining Bruce Lee wearing a helm and full chainmail :O. (hmm, maybe that post was sarcastic and I just missed it)
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