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Orb of the Infinite Void  
 

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM PLACEABLE
Slot: SECONDARY
AC: 35
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +75 MANA: +75 ENDUR: +75
WT: 0.2 Size: TINY
Class: ALL except BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Lore:Ball of Black Energy
Item Type:Shield
Light:Tiny Glowing Skull
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:3 pp 5 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:18000
Submitted By:Tys von Gaza
Lucy Entry By:rale
Updated By:adetia [township rebellion]
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Scars of Velious Required: Yes


Average Price: 10,000pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 58

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lol
# Jun 07 2008 at 4:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Its funny. Im seeing 2 in the Bazaar on the Rathe server, one for 200k the other for 189,999 I was wondering the same thing.
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why?
# Mar 01 2006 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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With all the new and better stuff we have in the game I have 1 question. WHY is this thing going for between 14k and 24k.


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why?
# Apr 20 2009 at 5:40 AM Rating: Default
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I just sold one for 24k on Tunare. Why so much you are asking? Huh at 24k I am literally giving it away. Imagine a lvl 1 twink with the 30ac and the 75 hp/mana it is a superb twink item. It sold so quickly the next one goes for 50k.
RE: why?
# Mar 07 2006 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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no req/rec level
My Pally Loves His
# Jun 28 2004 at 9:26 AM Rating: Default
I have a 47 pally who has been running around with one since he got it around 20. I am getting at the point in the game where 2hs weapons might hold an edge over 1hs, but there are still several one handed weapons that are desireable when combined with this shield.

With a Shaman FoS buff on my strength is maxed and Dex is around 225. Use this with a Gomdurig and a 31% haste belt and you are seeing average hits around 45-50, a hell of a lot of them and procing 4-6 times a fight on dark blue mobs. This often bashes at 60.

In the span of 5 seconds or so you see a message that reads something like this.

You pierce for 44
You pierce for 56
You bash for 45
You pierce for 25
A frost giant scout is hit for 115 points of non-melee damage
You pierce for 36
A frost giant scout hits you for 80
You pierce...

Anyway, you get the idea. When I hit 50 I'll be breaking out the CHoS, and when tanking I often use a Sword of the Bloodsworn coupled with tis to produce unbelieveable aggro.

I agree, in the planes where you are likely to get riposted a lot, a nice slow 2hs might be the ticket. When tanking in an LDoN or someplace outside the planes than I think this shield is perfect for a Paladin when using a 1h weapon.
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#DamuriAjashi, Posted: Dec 11 2002 at 3:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Prices have gone CRAZY on Veeshan!
RE: prices gone crazy
# Dec 26 2002 at 7:46 PM Rating: Default
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Lodi shields have dropped in price (and will keep dropping) because Lodizal is no longer a random spawn.
Necromancer :)
# Aug 16 2002 at 3:22 PM Rating: Default
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I bought one of these for my Warlock for 35k and never regretted it, this is the best secondary not no drop item in the game for necros.

It blows away Hand of The Reaper, Rune Ornate Shield,...

Just switch it with a dreamweaver webshield on raids if you need the resists and you're set.
RE: Necromancer :)
# Nov 26 2002 at 2:13 AM Rating: Default
I don't know what PoP has in store for us but as of right now, I can't think of a better all/all secondary slot item for a wis caster or hybrid. I just bought one and it cost me all I had but it was cheap compared to what else I cold have gotten for the money.
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#PrinceBytorr, Posted: Dec 04 2002 at 4:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Check out my secondary, this is from Tier Two plane in PoP.
Nice for a Paladin!
# Jun 13 2002 at 3:21 PM Rating: Good
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I never really paid much attention to this item. We've farmed a few in my guild and I always considered it a caster item. BUT, if this can be wielded as a Shield by a Paladin, it is an AWESOME shield!

35 AC, + 75 hit points AND 75 mana? Not to mention the additional mana boost for +5 wisdom. I never really thought of it before, but as far as Paladin shields go, this would be a nice one!

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#clansilvermoon, Posted: May 01 2003 at 7:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) paladins don't use shields in the upper class, PoP 2HB weapon is the way to go, Resplendid War Maul, or even Primals pre-PoP, forget about pally shields
RE: Nice for a Paladin!
# Jan 15 2003 at 9:53 AM Rating: Default
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Yes, this WOULD be a nice upgrade for a Shadowknight. Rangers, too. Especially Rangers, though, since high AC items usable by Paladins and Shadowknights are a little bit easier to come by than those that are Ranger usable. And it's nearly weightless, besides! Less weight taken up in your armor/weapon slots means you can carry more loot or useful items in your packs. How can you argue with that? My only question is can those classes with the Bash skill, use this item for that, and how effective is it?

Edited, Wed Jan 15 09:28:12 2003
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RE: Nice for a Paladin!
# Jun 14 2002 at 8:46 PM Rating: Default
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What about SK?
#Vrahlach, Posted: Mar 27 2002 at 9:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I think you miscalculated your friends INT from the staff/stien combo. Stien is +10. There are 3 one handed staves in the game that give +15 int. All of them are no drop, and all of them are 50+ peices. There are a few with MORE int, but my guess is they are also no drop. The best achievable staff in the game for a level 30 wizard is the staff of the wheel which is +10 int. Yes, this is achievable at 30, I got mine at 28, I can tell you exactly how to do it. At best, even twinked he could make +23 on stien/staff.
The real subject
# Mar 04 2002 at 9:15 PM Rating: Default
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Please keep things on the real subject so us people actully trying to find stuff out dont get spammed out.
RE: The real subject
# Mar 21 2002 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
Rate posts and use filters thats what the rate this post buttons are for.

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Ah Well
# Feb 25 2002 at 6:24 AM Rating: Default
I acquired this item and wore it for a day or so, The blinking shield just bothered me so I gave it to my Chanter friend.
Doesn't really help my Druid much as it would replace the ToV I have on my secondary with less Wisdom. I agree the stats could come in handy, but I know I need the wisdom more.
Needless to say, my friend was very happy to have it :)
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RE: Ah Well
# Nov 04 2002 at 8:14 AM Rating: Default
lol. you need the wis more.. yeah right =p
consider every 5 points of mana worth one wis point, and choose the appropriate gear. your wis should end up be over 200. at level 50 you only get 5 mana for each wis above 200, so.... this shield is basically as good as a straight 20 wis.
if your wis is at anything above 230 unbuffed, and you get kei, all that extra wis does absolutely nothing for your stats.
RE: Ah Well
# Mar 12 2002 at 5:51 PM Rating: Decent
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uhm ToV has 10wis, this one has 10wis, at lvl50 1wis = 10mana ..., now ...

how much mana does this item give you? and how much wis do 75mana make up for? plus lets think about live beyond 200wis ..., all I can say is that, although it was a nice gesture of you to give it up, the ToV is in no way even close to this item
RE: Ah Well
# Sep 05 2002 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Stats Cap. Int Wis blah blah caps at 255. HP/MANA dont cap.
RE: Ah Well
# Jun 14 2002 at 8:50 PM Rating: Default
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this has 5 wis... not 10
RE: Ah Well
# Aug 05 2002 at 5:29 PM Rating: Default
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What he's trying to say is 10 mana=1 wis for a wis caster.

if ToV (not sure what item that is) has 10wis

10 wis = 100 mana

if orb of the infinate void has +5wis and +75 mana, therefore..

5wis = 50 mana + 75 mana = 125 mana

do the math
RE: Ah Well
# May 04 2003 at 12:25 AM Rating: Default
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The math is 1 wis or int is = to 10 mana up to 200 total. Thereafter, its 1 wis or int = 6 mana. So, at this point...the 75 mana seems more valuable than the 5 wis.
'Mist golem' in velks
# Feb 10 2002 at 7:43 AM Rating: Default
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Had one of these drop off 'Mist Golem' (name was something like that) in velks this weekend, think it was a gm event. My group got the kill, there was about 25 people near the zone out in the end killing it. I shouted to the zone for names of anyone who was not a duel wielder and a pally won it. Would have gone nice on my cleric too :( but could not keep it would have felt too bad as it was not just my group who killed it. This was on bristlebane by the way.

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Wow
# Nov 27 2001 at 7:13 AM Rating: Default
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Wow this is a NICE caster item, IMHO if i was running the raid it would go to the casters (Pali,SK especially).
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Ummm
# Dec 07 2001 at 8:20 AM Rating: Default
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Ummm.... Paladins and Shadowknights aren't casters. And if they equip this item, they doom themselves to that role. 2handers are a Pal/SK's bread and butter.

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RE: Ummm
# Mar 26 2002 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Umm, I would put this on my SK without hesitation, especially if I was going to be tanking. 35 AC + 75 hp = me not needing as many heals. 5 Int + 75 mana = me causing more mayhem to keep aggro on ME.

If I'm not tanking, having extra mana is a good thing. I can use it to tap back the life I lose from stray hits. I can darkness the mobs etc.

2 Handers are great, but most don't have any AC. as they say AC is king. We have some pretty wicked 1 handers so I'd take the small reduction in damage for the added bonuses this item can give me in addition to the AC.

There's about 50 different ways to play each class. Who's to really say which is the right way. For me at least, going 1hander + shield adds an awful lot of versatility and that's very hard, perhaps foolish to pass up.
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look at that box
# Dec 16 2001 at 12:45 AM Rating: Default
those boxes that your everquest games came in. Notice what the paladin is wearing, notice what he is doing. He is using a one handed sword. Why because we dont deal damage well, there are 2 melee classes that do that rather well thanks to our warriors and rogues (and ranger), notice they all dual wield. Sorry, but there are 1hs out there with better ratios than epic, then add in bash. Yes, it will not stun higher level mobs, but it DOES interrupt spells. Add that bash to the 4 or 5 stun spells we get by the time we level 60. Each class has purpose in the game, ours is to help in aggro with stuns (and taunt if stuns not enough, but stuns usually more than enough for cleric to cast a heal or so). From my research the dual wielding swords stats dont get as well of ratios as some of the paladin/sk 1hs, theres a reason why, its because we cant dual wield. Unless meleeing with our epics which can bash while being a 2hs, a 1hs with shield (that has nice stats) is better. Not sure about you but paladins i been seeing near end game are not using 2hs. I seen paladins with epic but prefer 1hs, ie, Frostwrath Dmg 24, Dly 22. +20 AC +10 Str +5 Wis +5 Int +15 vsFire +50 Mana +4.00 Wt
RE: look at that box
# Apr 29 2002 at 1:32 AM Rating: Default
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Only 2 classes that deal damage well? Sorry but being one have to remind about Monks there. ;) I know we don't always have the best reputation here thanks to those misguided Brothers & Sisters who seem to enjoy posting the now-classic "This is a Monk item!" bits, however the only class to out-damage Monks are Rogues. And if Rogues can't backstab sometimes that could be arguably *note previous word please* switched. Then would be Warriors then I think Paladins, Shadowknights, & Rangers could be pretty close to call depending on equipment &/or weapon usage. Although Bards might be a bit close behind the Rangers there. After Rogues, Monks, & Warriors it definitely starts to get a bit hazy as to most melee damage.
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RE: look at that box
# May 27 2002 at 3:28 PM Rating: Default
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Umm... rangers outdamage warriors/pallies/SKs easily bud. They're right up there with monks in damage. Rogues can easily outdamage any other melee, however. Pallies/SKs aren't offensive; they are around for their other abilities.
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RE: look at that box
# Jun 10 2002 at 1:39 AM Rating: Default
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NO way do rangers outdamage warriors. Pally's and SK's sure, but not warriors.

Rogue, monk, warrior, ranger SK, paladin, bard. Paladins do the least overall damage of all the real melee classes, though the reason is because of the SK's superior damage dealing spells. Their pure melee is very much on a par with SKs. Bards aren't really melees in the long run, but they play one on TV sometimes.
RE: look at that box
# Jul 23 2002 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Thats not necessarily true anymore.... with the coming of AA, I have seen plenty of Rangers who can handily outdamage a warrior. Can they survive as long as Warriors in a toe-to-toe fight with a mob?? No, of course not. However, Verant has said several times that Ranger attack potential is supposed to be on the same line as Warrior. Warriors probably have the edge with critical hits, but asides from that, don't out damage rangers. With the AA bow skills, whoaa baby. I remember a certain ranger who KSed a full group killing the guy in Kael that drops the Orb of Infinite Void. Thankfully, ranger was in the same guild..... so it was just funny and not a hanging offense =)
RE: look at that box
# Feb 19 2002 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Even at lower lvls this is true, you find more stat'd weapons that are 1hs at lower lvls, and the extra AC really comes in handy. I'm lvl 30 with a LSoEE, and a Crustation shell sheild. I almost never use my Blade of Xonga(sp) I do the same damage per hit with the LS and it is 29 dly instead of 40...you do the math!! And no I'm not twinked took a dang long time to save up to buy those items!!
RE: look at that box
# Jul 28 2002 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
For daring to compare a ls of etherial energy and a blade of xalgoz, I shall now slap you
Error in thinking
# Jul 23 2001 at 12:47 PM Rating: Default
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Quote:
*I'm sick of hearing that just because an item has AC it should go to encs. Any castor or priest would love one of these, 75 hp and mana is great, and AC helps any class*
It's already been pointed out that paladins and clerics and shamans at this level aready have MUCH better shields. Remember this is attained at around lvl 55+. Furthermore you have to compare this: if your cleric wants to take away AC from an enchanter who is basically wearing cloth there is something wrong with the cleric and your group; same thing goes for the paladin. Ask any lvl 55 cleric if they have only 500 AC.

Quote:
*I can't think of why anyone would forget that Paladins and Clerics who are not dual wield wouldn't want this. The ac wisdom mana combo is right up the alley of Paladins and Clerics*
Basically same as above. What people don't understand is that after the pull, usually the enchanter IS the tank. And, the enchanter is tanking several mobs until he gains control of the situation. So you have to think "do I want a situation where 5 mobs are beating on the enchanter and I refused to give him 35AC which might allow him a second for the mob to miss him, or protect the cleric who already has some 700AC (have no clue what cleric plate mail AC is)". Furthermore you should already be at 200 wisdom and way more AC than this offers.

I'll admit at 0.2wt it is a fine monk item for pulling. But all the stats will be best utilized by an enchanter.

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RE: Error in thinking
# Nov 16 2001 at 2:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I play a cleric and was wondering what these "Much better shields" that are available to me when I can get this are. I'm having a difficult time thinking of anything...

The Emerald Tear quest in ToV has a much better shield but killing Dozekar is much harder than killing Keldor Delorek.

Lodizal Shell Shield might be better than this but I probably wouldnt take it off my back unless I got something that really kicked the ass out of it as a cloak.

The Kunark dragon shields might be better but I'm not sure, and they take more people to get than this. All you need is a non-KoS mage to CoH the rest of the group through the nasty royals/tormax area and kill one guy. Talendor etc. take more people than 6.

*still thinking* Well I cant think of anything that is much better AND attainable at the same level this is.

In regard to some of the posts about not wearing this to ToV; As a cleric, if you know what you are doing you have no reason to switch to an SBS for resists (at least on the wurms, some dragons have nowhere to hide from AE).

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RE: Error in thinking
# Nov 20 2002 at 3:04 PM Rating: Default
I play an 46 atm enchantress on Thouluxe Paells and in my experience because the mobs that we have to have a raid for,kills me in 2-3 sec,i throw an tash on it i am dead )i'll slow it down he leaves the warriors that beat on him,rouges,pallys and what not and it comes over to me which i am at maximum range of my spells,smacks me around until it leaves me ,if i am lucky,at 25%HP ),but usually kills me.
This item is great for a lot of reasons to a lot of classes i am not trying decide who is best fitted to get it,i am only trying to defend the ones that are trying to blame the tanks for not being able to hold aggro for the reason that i think the agrro rulles by which mobs function are different then the ones we like to think it works ),perhaps by being slowed or tashed its ability to defend itself is more impaired,and who ever does more damage or hits faster is less important at that particular moment.
RE: Error in thinking
# Mar 22 2002 at 3:21 AM Rating: Default
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The Kunark dragon shields are something along the lines of 25ac 10 str -5 agi +5 to all saves and +25 to whatever save is most relevant(like white dragon shield would be sv cold, green poison, etc.) So..not really better than this except for saves.
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RE: Error in thinking
# Sep 27 2001 at 7:18 AM Rating: Default
Wow, you guys must have the crappiest groups ever. The chanter being a tank? Lol, laughing my ass off. I regularly play with a lvl 55 chanter and yes, he may take a blow or two or even three in a worst case scenario but never will he be "tanking" as you so nicely put it, not even in the farthest stretch of the word. I deduce three things from this: you are a very, very bad chanter. Secondly, you have very, very bad tanks, hehe. Third, your cleric isn't keeping an eye on you =) When he is handling crowds he does so with an array of neat stuns that keep him from getting hit. If we do something catastrophic as say get 5 mobs on a pull he will stun, mezz and so on till he has control. And he has a perfect check on how long his mezzes hold which allows him to med while waiting to refresh them. Us tanks keep an eye out for which ones are mezzed first and start picking them in that order. If I call the wrong one he will redirect me to the one he wants taken out. Hasnt failed us yet, from KC via Seb to Velks. And never do they run for the chanter when I break a mezz, never! Not even if they are slowed and ready when I break. Now, if the mobs are unmezzeble like some in the hole or in the planes you need to be able to split tank them or switch very fast when you see one add on your party. I'm sorry, you just sounds as you stepped right from ill omen into this discussion. One adapt ones pulling to the degree of magic resist on the mobs too, monk shadowknight is an especially good team for making sure you only get singles on a pull. Have to commend my chanter one last time, upon breaking a camp in Seb he held 6 froggies mezzed while we were killing of the seventh and when we were done he was at 70 in the mana departement. Sure, chanters should of course go for ac, I'm not making a statement as to this particular item or as to this particular chanter, just make sure your tank has a better item before starting to call whats yours and what you might deign to leave for another class.
RE: Error in thinking
# Nov 27 2002 at 3:32 PM Rating: Default
I can't remember the last time I was able to keep a stun in one of my memmed slots. It usually goes celestial healing in slot one either complete healing or superior healing in slot 2, root in slot 3, nuke in slot 4, blind in slot 5, gate in slot 6, DB and DA in slots 7 and 8.
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RE: Error in thinking
# Oct 25 2001 at 11:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Tash is incredible aggro. What I think the poster meant about the enchanter tanking is that he will take aggro from the MT when he tashes. Tash has to be in at the beginning of the battle, as does malo and cripple. He's obviously playing a different game than you -- one where the chanter is NOT a mezzer, cause there is nothing to mez, but a debuffer of mobs that are lvl 60+ and unmezzable.

Enchanters are a suicide class on raids when they are debuffing. Keep track of the EKPs (Enchanter Kill Points) when you fight real mobs in ToV.
RE: Error in thinking
# Sep 29 2001 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
Doesnt anyone remember the Druids or Shamen?
With the Wis and mana, and HP, (ac is good too) Druids can easily accommodate this? We have only a handful more HP than Enc. that is why we buff with Skin like Diamond (or Natureskin if high enough).
While I agree Enchanters would be good candidates for this item, I feel Druids are equally good candidates.
I just dont like seeing one way conversations for items when they are good for pretty much anyone.
I do agree that a warrior and monk really have no need. AC and HP......other classes could use the mana and wis/int.
Just my humble opinion
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#Zhaqeel, Posted: Oct 11 2001 at 2:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Still not quite right. I think Enchanters should be the first to get this item, and then if they all have or have better then Shamans or Druids might qualify as second, but probably not. After Enchanters I think Wizards should be next in line, and then Shamans or Druids. Just my opinion. And btw, its Shamans, not Shamen. Heh, oh no, I just realized I'm one of those people who posts who should get what and why. Help me.
RE: Error in thinking
# Nov 05 2001 at 5:12 AM Rating: Default
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Why would Wizards have any interest in this item? It's only +5 int, my friend who has a 30 wizard has a staff in primary and a stein of moggok in secondary that give him a total of +25 int, the more mana they have, the longer they survive.
And I imagine by the time this is made available, he will have better int items :-)
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RE: Error in thinking
# Dec 01 2001 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
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because at higher levels its way too easy to keep a 200int..so you start working on hps(to last through the aoes), and mana..not to mention having your set of resistance gear..
RE: Error in thinking
# Dec 06 2002 at 7:55 PM Rating: Decent
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This is one of the items that a high level INT caster looks to get over 55+. Your INT will likely be close or over 255 by then. This gives you 35 AC, 75 mana, and 75 HP's.

My 59 Wiz has this and a Dream Weaver Webshield to switch off on for aoe resists. When you're still looking to get to the INT cap as a caster, you may not be looking at this. But once you're close, plus have a steady diet of KEI, you start looking for +HP and Mana items like this.

My 50 Shaman has this as his shield. Shamans need the AC and HP's at the higher levels to asorb the blows when they land the slow on a mob. When you're taking hits from a mob that's double or better whacking you for over 200pts, you can go down before the tanks get the mob off you. My goal with the Shaman is to keep the WIS over 200, while getting the AC and HP up.

Not going to flame you for not knowing better. You will some day.

RE: Error in thinking
# Sep 27 2001 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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"he may take a blow or two or even three in a worst case scenario"

You sure you have been to KC? I seem to remember that even the weak Dolvargs can double hit very fast. Much faster than a tank can turn around. Come to think of it, it just gets worse in Seb and Velks. Are you sure you have been to these places with an enchanter?

"If we do something catastrophic as say get 5 mobs on a pull he will stun, mezz and so on till he has control."

One mob of five resists and starts beating the chanter. This mob stuns the chanter. Stun wears on the other four and now the chanter has five mobs beating on him. This is a common situation.

My point? Don't tell someone they have a "crappy" group because the enchanter gets hit.
RE: Error in thinking
# Aug 31 2001 at 6:10 PM Rating: Default
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I generally find that people who tout that any item is best for XXXX on this board are generally the people who either A)Can't acquire the item or B)Aren't in a position to determine the loot for the guild.
RE: Error in thinking
# May 27 2002 at 4:05 PM Rating: Default
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and C) play/are the class they say should get it.
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RE: Error in thinking
# Jul 24 2002 at 10:46 PM Rating: Decent
Guess it's my turn to chime in on this as well.. I am inclined to agree that all too many people are entirely too quick to jump to saying what class should get what. Personally, I would love to have one of these on my SK. The stats on the thing would make a huge difference, and NO, there are not a lot of better things that I could just go and get at the drop of a hat either. You people are all talking like enchanters take a horrible beating in every fight, and all I have to say to that is somebody isn't doing their jobs. I have been in Velks groups at level 43 killing dogs in LK hoping to get a sword of pain, and yeah, things do tend to agro the chanters just like you're saying. But I hate to break it to you . . . I could have the mob off the chanter after the first pass from the mob, sometimes before. And all it took was just paying attention . . . kinda easy to see a large white dog rushing madly past. I guess maybe I'm just really good at what I do. But by whining about how one class deserves a certain item at the expense of all other classes is the same thing that has people hating monks. Give an item to whoever would benefit from it most. If the chanter has a tendency to get hit a lot, give it to him. If you've got someone who knows how to keep agro, then there's probably someone better to give it to.. Just remember one thing, a chanter with 600 AC will get eaten in seconds, just like a chanter with 500 AC.. It's gonna take a lot more than a shield to save your hide when you start getting hit. Good gear means a lot, but having a good group watching your back means more.
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RE: Error in thinking
# Aug 05 2001 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
umm....what are the WAY better shields for shaman again?closest i see is a lodi w/23 ac +10wis.just wondering.

Larendan Nitewolf
RE: Error in thinking
# Mar 21 2002 at 5:32 PM Rating: Default
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No, Shaman are AC, HP > Wis
#MaxaGiulli, Posted: Jul 25 2001 at 4:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yay, multiple posts rock.
The real error in thinking
# Jul 25 2001 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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How about this. The stats are best suited to whoever goes back there and gets it.

The type of thinking that x class deserves it more than someone else causes more arguments than about anything else. Fact is unless its given/sold to you (doubtful in the near future), you're not going to get in a group to do this till minimum of 55-56. This is a one group raid if you have the right ppl and faction but everyone needs to be mimimum of that lvl or higher.

Theres different situations for everything, and theres few all/all items that 'best fit' a certain class for all situations. A chanter in Kael will not be tanking anything unless its normal tash/rune aggro, a giant who's charm has broken or whatever. They're sure not going to be mezzing any giants or deep ToV mobs. In fact they're going to be mezzing very few high lvl mobs in Velious.

Most well equipped (i.e. hardcore enough players to be in a group to get this) enchanters are going to have around 700+ AC and clerics around 1000+. Who would the AC help more? Either one. Neither's AC is high enough to severely affect hits from mobs with ATKs as high as these, so it's just a bit more AC for either. The hp's would be actually more beneficial than the AC. Basically you're left with the stats, which are equally good for either one.

As for a pally/sk, it would be only for the hp's/AC which are nice, but I don't see many pallys/sks using a shield if they want to put out decent dmg.

Here's the real kicker though. Who would wear this on a raid, like ToV for example? Answer is noone unless they want their raid leader all up in them for not wearing resist items, and rightly so. A Lodizal shield or even SBS is a much much better choice for anyone but the pure casters, and they have much better options too. This thing has zero resists which makes it not good at all when you're getting hit by overlapping AE's. If you're not a melee class and you're getting melee'd chances are you're dead in a few seconds. 35 AC will not help.

Bottom line is this is a good item for fighting in everyday groups or whatever, but not for raids. AC and hp/mana are good. Ooh-aah factor is so so because most ppl won't even know what it is. Looks the same as one of those old Shimmering Orbs from Uguk :/ Altogether a good shield, but if you raid a lot you'll find it cozy in your tinker bag most of the time.
RE: The real error in thinking
# Oct 15 2001 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
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you guys really need to stop trying to figure out what item should go to who. Anyone who has lead a raid knows that very very few items are "Best" suited for certain classes. The majority of these I have seen go to shaman but that still doesn't mean that giving it to a shammy is better than giving it to say a chanter or druid.

The real error in thinking
# Jul 25 2001 at 4:11 PM Rating: Default
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How about this. The stats are best suited to whoever goes back there and gets it.

The type of thinking that x class deserves it more than someone else causes more arguments than about anything else. Fact is unless its given/sold to you (doubtful in the near future), you're not going to get in a group to do this till minimum of 55-56. This is a one group raid if you have the right ppl and faction but everyone needs to be mimimum of that lvl or higher.

Theres different situations for everything, and theres few all/all items that 'best fit' a certain class for all situations. A chanter in Kael will not be tanking anything unless its normal tash/rune aggro, a giant who's charm has broken or whatever. They're sure not going to be mezzing any giants or deep ToV mobs. In fact they're going to be mezzing very few high lvl mobs in Velious.

Most well equipped (i.e. hardcore enough players to be in a group to get this) enchanters are going to have around 700+ AC and clerics around 1000+. Who would the AC help more? Either one. Neither's AC is high enough to severely affect hits from mobs with ATKs as high as these, so it's just a bit more AC for either. The hp's would be actually more beneficial than the AC. Basically you're left with the stats, which are equally good for either one.

As for a pally/sk, it would be only for the hp's/AC which are nice, but I don't see many pallys/sks using a shield if they want to put out decent dmg.

Here's the real kicker though. Who would wear this on a raid, like ToV for example? Answer is noone unless they want their raid leader all up in them for not wearing resist items, and rightly so. A Lodizal shield or even SBS is a much much better choice for anyone but the pure casters, and they have much better options too. This thing has zero resists which makes it not good at all when you're getting hit by overlapping AE's. If you're not a melee class and you're getting melee'd chances are you're dead in a few seconds. 35 AC will not help.

Bottom line is this is a good item for fighting in everyday groups or whatever, but not for raids. AC and hp/mana are good. Ooh-aah factor is so so because most ppl won't even know what it is. Looks the same as one of those old Shimmering Orbs from Uguk :/ Altogether a good shield, but if you raid a lot you'll find it cozy in your tinker bag most of the time.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 19 2001 at 6:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Funny, with the nice ac, wisdom and mana, I can't think of why anyone would forget that Paladins and Clerics who are not dual wield wouldn't want this. The ac wisdom mana combo is right up the alley of Paladins and Clerics.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 19 2001 at 2:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, I'm sick of hearing that just because an item has AC it should go to encs. Any castor or priest would love one of these, 75 hp and mana is great, and AC helps any class. IMO this item is great for any int or wis castor and monks for pulling =)
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 04 2001 at 1:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Really
How to get
# May 06 2001 at 1:40 AM Rating: Default
What's the trick to get the shield? It seems to be a big secret on every server. I know that if you pull Keld you pull the uber rogue too who will totally kick your ass. So how do you do it? I know people on my server have done it with 5 people. They gave me a few hints..said having good tormax fac helps.

What I thought you were supposed to do is pull the two, let a tank keep the rogue busy with a dodge/riposte disciple while you kill the Keld and loot shield..then everyone dies or evacs.

Any help, guys?
RE: How to get
# Jun 19 2001 at 1:55 AM Rating: Default
Just got this item today in a group of 5 people and I must say it's great =)

anyways, here's how you do it. Just have someone agro keldor and the rogue, then FD. Have another group member hail keldor while the rogue goes back to his spawn point, then wax Keldor. Good luck =)
Yasai
# May 05 2001 at 3:21 PM Rating: Default
This is a great shield. While the popular opinion is that monks and other melees shouldnt us it, that isnt really true. Warriors and rogues, who either have a set of duel epics that are great enough not to let go of, or who want to duel wield, monk, as well as the other combat-esque classes can and should use this, especially if they are the main puller. The extra AC and HP will keep a monk alive on a distance pull, especially needed now that CoH is a bit nerfed with the change in /assist range. This and the shroud that gives +35 to all resists are probably the be all end all of monk pulling gear, that or the shield of rainbow hues, which a lot of monks do have btw
Very easy to get
# May 04 2001 at 9:15 PM Rating: Default
Killed him with 5 people today, did a quick pickup raid when i seen him up and the item is very very good and it drops EVERY time. Personaly i would never ever use this with an SK or paladin and neither would any paladins i asked, many better shields for them that they can bash with this you can't, any of them that would roll would most likely sell it soon after. Also on my server it is weighted heavily towards int casters since wis casters can get 40 AC and such shields and casters get like..10 AC ones.
RE: Very easy to get
# Sep 10 2001 at 11:22 PM Rating: Default
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Umm mind naming some of those 40acshields??? According to EQprices (though they seem to rarely update) the highest ac "shield" is a tie between the bladestopper and green dragon shield and only have 25 ac. The highest AC handheld being this orb.

Not saying that these shields don't exist just would like to find out where and waht drop these magical 40ac shields?
RE: Very easy to get
# May 18 2002 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
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Fearsome Shield
RE: Very easy to get
# Dec 15 2001 at 11:24 PM Rating: Default
im too lazy to look up the shields but there are shields with MUCH higher AC than this... but they are NO DROP . - currently level 49
RE: Very easy to get
# Dec 15 2001 at 11:24 PM Rating: Default
im too lazy to look up the shields but there are shields with MUCH higher AC than this... but they are NO DROP
RE: Very easy to get
# Feb 03 2002 at 1:57 AM Rating: Default
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uhh there was some gm event newbie shield with 75 ac and one of the lower druid dmg shields... was a while ago in either freeport or qeynos newbie area.... weighed a ton if i remember correctly.
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Questable Maybe
# Mar 08 2001 at 5:06 PM Rating: Default
If you sit next to the mob he will eventually emote something like..

xxxx ponders about a distant far off place.

Couldn't come up with any keywords to get any response from him.

RE: Questable Maybe
# Mar 12 2001 at 7:26 PM Rating: Default
which mob?
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 22 2001 at 11:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is so obviously fake. look how the edges of the background behind the AC number doesn't match up with the rest of the image. anyway, we all know damn well that verant would NEVER let casters have more than 5ac.
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 10 2001 at 10:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) go get layed and stop wasting time. ooo this is fake ooo thats fake people dont make up items for the hell of it you @#%^ing piece of sh*t go blow yourself if you cant find anyone else to people probably have this and the items lately are incredible but very hard to get. This isnt insanely great but its really really good doughtful its a shield and really good for necros chanters etc. id like it myself. but dought id never find out enough to get it just gonna be happy with my gbs and working on focus and almost planes ready for tome of necrothurga or w/e stop complaining about items and go play the game. if it is fake than who cares. your probably like level 4 and youll never have it anyway for those who have it good job but tehres better stuff no ragging down on you. sorry for ahving sucha long post i do have a tiny info on this it drops in kael drakkel really really deep in. I saw this giant deep in with a glow fist when i got ambushed by see invis giants and i FDed and tryed to get to a safe spot to gate back to skyshrine. maybe this was it i dont know was on his left hand maybe that will help. hope they didnt censor my swearng at this dooshbag who eats butt. see ya
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 04 2001 at 11:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) erm...this item is Not FAKE
RE: fake
# Mar 10 2001 at 2:42 AM Rating: Default
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LOL, how not smart are you, Shinning orb, 15AC 20hps, or something to that extent, get a clue
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 08 2001 at 8:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) f***ing dorks get a clue.
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 28 2001 at 3:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you moron its not fake...
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 28 2001 at 3:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
RE: fake
# Feb 24 2001 at 3:37 AM Rating: Good
Actually it is quite real and drops in Kael. Getting to the fella that drops it is a *tiny* bit of work though. It certainly is one of the most coveted SoV drops. Requirements are a full raiding group of 58+ only with the knowledge of one of three guilds in the game. LoS has been talking of acquiring 'another one of those caster shields of ownage' regularily. This is that shield.
RE: fake
# Mar 22 2001 at 11:51 AM Rating: Default
Which LoS are you talking about? :)
Please not, NOT a shield (that means no bash) n/t
# Feb 16 2001 at 7:04 AM Rating: Default
Any caster period
# Feb 14 2001 at 12:17 AM Rating: Default
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Hell my necro would love one of these. Cause we all know that casters need AC cause we are tanks. Even if our spells get interupted when we get hit who cares.
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#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 13 2001 at 6:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'll believe it when:
RE: Skeptical
# Feb 13 2001 at 7:11 PM Rating: Default
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Believe what you want, my guild is happy walking around with them though.
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RE: Skeptical
# Feb 13 2001 at 8:59 PM Rating: Default
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LOL, EOD wouldn't try something like that. They're a good guild...good reputation on Cazic Thule too. Nice going on the raid guys.
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# Jul 12 2001 at 10:02 PM Rating: Default
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RE: Skeptical
# Feb 14 2001 at 1:09 AM Rating: Default
I have seen Zeta (of EoD as well) with one of these. So they are around and not a hoax, (not that I would ever consider something from EoD to be a hoax).

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RE: Skeptical
# Feb 14 2001 at 11:49 PM Rating: Default
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as if it weren't easy enough for someone of moderate photoshop skills to spoof the EoD submitted it?
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RE: Skeptical
# Feb 15 2001 at 5:08 PM Rating: Default
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Its possible, but then 5 people in EoD wouldn't have these shields then. =P
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The shield is real
# Feb 21 2001 at 10:26 PM Rating: Default
It's real.
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 13 2001 at 3:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'll trade my golden shield with a dragon on it for a dumb lucking orb if it has those stats!
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 13 2001 at 2:33 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) *grabs his cock as he spurts cum everywhere*
~blinks~
# Feb 13 2001 at 8:58 AM Rating: Default
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Did they go Stupid uber with Velious??? LOL!
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RE: ~blinks~
# Jun 14 2002 at 8:55 PM Rating: Default
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Imagine a level1 with this... laff now
DRUIDS DREAM
# Feb 13 2001 at 7:24 AM Rating: Default
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Hehe, I had to put in my two cents for us lovable Druids...Fantastic item, any caster would love this item...sure beats a testement of venear :)
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RE: DRUIDS DREAM
# Feb 13 2001 at 11:20 AM Rating: Default
Why don't you go kite it then?
#Orocular, Posted: Feb 13 2001 at 11:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol
ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 13 2001 at 6:02 AM Rating: Default
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Come on -- who cant use 35 AC?
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 13 2001 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
While I would love this shield (mage), I wouldn't stand in the way of an enchanter, they are in so much more need of AC than a mage is.
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 13 2001 at 7:07 PM Rating: Default
This is also a hybrid's dream--don't knock the melees just because they don't need the intelligence. Only classes who wouldn't use this are rogues, rangers, and monks (and warriors)
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 15 2001 at 2:08 PM Rating: Default
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why not rangers? they need ac and wis and mana and hp too

GURK
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Jun 19 2001 at 1:58 AM Rating: Default
It's called duel wield
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 14 2001 at 2:34 AM Rating: Default
And not bards, I'd say
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 14 2001 at 2:34 AM Rating: Default
I'd think Paladin / Shadowknight wouldn't get much use out of it, the main reason to go 1hs is to bash, in a lot of cases... can you bash with this?
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Nov 27 2002 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
Yes, you can bash with this.
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RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 13 2001 at 9:20 PM Rating: Default
actually, only warriors, monks and rouges dont really need it, although it might be a toss up for rangers, 35ac, or a weapon
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 14 2001 at 11:22 AM Rating: Default
I'd say the classes that would USE this as standard equip are:
All casters
All preists
Shadowknight
Paladin

Of those classes I'd say enchanter needs it the most followed closely by paladin and SK.

Enchanters take tons of hits. If they die the whole party or RAID dies. Thier shield options are a bit more limited then the other classes who can easily obtain a ac25+ shield with similar or better stats.

You never see a rogue, monk, warrior, ranger or bard using a shield. They would want it...but unless they use it as standard equipment...your not getting the best bang for the buck.

Mage, Necro, Wiz, Druid, Shaman, Cleric...they aren't supossed to tank and if they did it's usually thier fault, or because the enchanter died.
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Nov 27 2002 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
As a cleric, I've got to say, I end up tanking (as in standing there taking punishment) quite often. This happens when the puller gets back to camp in bad shape and needs an immediate heal cuz. So I usually send out a sup heal towards the puller, a celestial healing to the chanter, and finaly a celestial healing to the puller agin. If the mobs are still on me, I stand there until they get mezzed or I have less than 2 bubbs health. At 2 bubbs health, I send another celestial healing to the chanter and go divine barrier.

The beginning part of this scenario happens at least once a night and I have to click DB at least once a month.
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RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Feb 15 2001 at 9:05 PM Rating: Default
i have to agree - enchanters are always high on the aggro list and have screw all HP and AC normally. I'd expect the enchanter would get first dibs on this sucker. Good point raised above - if druids/shamans and the like are tanking then they should seriously look at how they play....
RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Nov 27 2001 at 12:06 PM Rating: Default
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I'll give you that an enchanter needs any AC they can get, but why the rip on shaman??? We're up there on the aggro list darn near as bad as the enchanter. And a GOOD shaman times their debuff and slow to land right after good ole Tash. My shaman's AC is considerably higher than most enchanters. Other than a full on dragon encounter where aggro=death for any caster class(who cares what your ac is), a good shaman pulls aggro off the chanter (thinking of adds here...MA has aggro on the one being attacked.. if not someone is not playing their class right). I have the hp and ac to absorb a few blows from the (hopefully) slowed add while the chanter lands a mez. Worst case scenario is that I eat a death, but the chanter (and thus the raid) stays alive.

Any way you look at it though, most of the non dual weilding classes can make good benefit out of this item.

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RE: ANY casters dream - get real
# Nov 25 2001 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes this shield is good for a chanter,but it is not bad for a shaman ether.

35 AC..who doesn't like AC?
5 WIS = mana
75 mana = 75 mana...DUH
75 HP + Cannibalize = more MANA!!

I play a druid so I don't need this item.But IMO it looks pretty good on a shaman.=)
Too bad It don't have any resist though...=(
ENCHANTERS DREAM
# Feb 13 2001 at 2:19 AM Rating: Good
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Now that I've reached a level where my int and cha are maxxed I'm more interested in surviving a few shots off level 55+ mobs. Enchanters get bashed on more than any other caster.

Nods
RE: ENCHANTERS DREAM
# Jul 01 2001 at 5:19 AM Rating: Default
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I would love this shield too! Don't really get killed because of hits yet *that* much at 43rd level yet but i do feel it when someone casts dot's on the mobs and i cant mez it or root it very well. Could save you a couple of times perhaps if you cut it really close...
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Drops...
# Feb 13 2001 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
In Dear Furor, Furor mentioned this drops in Kael off Keldor.

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RE: Drops...
# Feb 14 2001 at 12:15 AM Rating: Default
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Sounds neat, but what drops it?
I'm a little big leary of the pluses, AND 35ac.
only rare.. I think a little more than that, and the mob must be quite tough, to drop something like this.

Looks better than most of the caster eq out there.
Just add in continous clarity II, and..

:p
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RE: Drops...
# Mar 10 2001 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
Spawns behind King Tormax, through the quest hall, right at the back left corner. He seems to spawn every 30 hours

The key is to get Fjokar Frozenshard to help you kill him. . He is lvl 55, hits for 600, backstabs for 282 and flurries. Which means with flurry and double backstab, he has the chance to land upto 4 backstabs at a time
Excellent Item
# Feb 12 2001 at 9:43 PM Rating: Default
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This item is not only good for casters, but also melee classes. Specifically non dual wielders such as Paladin...Shadowknight...etc. The 35 AC and 75 HP are really excellent (especially for us AC starved Rangers). Not to mention that it is thankfully not NO DROP...but it's an obvious guess that the price on this will be through the roof and the spawn always camped. (Not like that's unusual or anything). Overall though, very nice IMO.
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#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 12 2001 at 9:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Too bad you cant equip this in range slot hehe.
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 12 2001 at 7:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMG i want this for my druid. Any Info on this, where it drops, LvL mob??
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