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Slot: PRIMARY
Skill: 2H Blunt Atk Delay: 50
DMG: 6 Dmg Bonus: 114
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
Effect: Overthere (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 50
WT: 80.0 Size: GIANT
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Lore:property of Danak Shipyards
Item Type:2H Blunt
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:rale
Updated By:Jhaerak
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Ruins of Kunark Required: Yes


Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 50

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Frog Monk is a no go w/ just faction
# Mar 22 2014 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
85 monk Frog tried it today after capping faction in VP... Warmly is the best I can get.... tried the braids just to be sure and it doesn't help any... guess I'm going to get strings now. =P ( illusion potion DE doesn't do it.... must be due to being a Marr follower. )

Edited, Mar 22nd 2014 10:29am by DapperJackScarlett
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I take it if you fall inside the hole in the boat when you port to where the hammer leaves you, you're stuck
Awesome item.
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One of the best items in the game IMO... Yes it weights 80.0 lbs.
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I just noticed that this thing now weighs a massive 80.0. Not sure why they changed that, but thankfully it weighs nothing on a 100% WR bag...
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Confirming this does in fact Weigh 80.0 now.
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It's easy
# Jan 09 2011 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
It's simple. Just did it.

Worked my Shroud for an hour in FoB until i got the Evil Eye Chanty (go to FoB, put on Spikeskin Pot, and just cast on everything around you).

Once you get the chanty shroud make the lvl 70 version, get a cloudy pot, and levi yourself. In OT go left around the wall and run across the water to the back of the little boats.

Cast the charm, give the jade, and get your hammer. That simple. Faster to get 100% in the tiny shroud than killing a million sarnaks.
It's easy
# Feb 04 2011 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
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This quest still works with Evil Eye Shroud. Did it today. at 1st I thought it was nerfed, turns out I was trying to turn in to Rotgrime instead of the Undead Foreman. LOL I feel pretty dumb.

Edited, Feb 4th 2011 3:54am by lazlo

Edited, Feb 4th 2011 3:54am by lazlo
where it ports you
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Don't know if this has been posted before, but if you are wondering where it ports you in OT it ports you to one of those broken down ships on the shoreline inside the Outpost, one of those right in front of the the Foreman. I am KOS to the Outpost but there's just one of those undead skellys on the boat where you port and it doesn't aggro my 70 Monk, and I basically just jump off the right hand side of the boat and run along the shoreline and out the side of the Outpost past the cliff golem and to the POK book. Nothing should ever aggro you if you stay in the middle of the shoreline and the buildings in the middle of Outpost, except possibly the golem when you run out.
where it ports you
# Aug 17 2009 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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got mine recently didn't take that long only a few hours and about 50 War beads i started as appreah being a troll SK went to amibly got a jade from the vendor near the undead worker handed the jade in and got the mallet great item for an SK otherwise you got to run everywhere and it sucks to do that without port from wizzy or a druid....
Worker Sledgemallet
# Aug 03 2009 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
People on the Mayong 51/50 server were asking how I got the Worker Sledgemallet for my human monk. On this server a lot of people are returning from long-breaks from EQ and are currently poor, and farming hasn’t hit full stride to ensure availability of items like puppet strings and illusion potions. Fortunately for this quest there are many options:

1. There is always the original quest which involves killing the Sarnak Berserkers for the Sarnak War Braids they carry. I have never killed a Sarnak Berserker in the The Overthere without having a war braid be on the corpse, but only the berserkers drop them.

Captain Rottgrime (incidently one of my favourite NPC in EQ, stand around and watch his routine some time) takes the braids in sets of four (unstacked). Each turn in gives positive faction hits to Venril Sathir and traditionally (see below for update) this was the only practical way to raise this faction. Unfortunately not all race/class/diety combos can attempt this original quest being Kill-on-sight. Once amiable to the outpost you hand a jade to the Undead Foreman to get the sledgemallet.

Killing the Sarnaks in the Overthere reduces Sarnak Collective and Brood of Di'Zok factions, so people wishing to align with Chardok (note the quests) avoided doing so in the past. Legion of Cabilis Faction is raised by killing the Sarnaks. This comes in handy for people wanting to do The Bone Chips Quest to raise all of the Cabilis factions (aside from the necromancer guild) and do the quests based out of there (just in case someone needed another reason to do this the old-school long way).

There is no point attempting the original quest if you cannot /consider safe enough to Captain Rottgrime (check on the golem guards outside the outpost) to do the turn ins. My agnostic human monk was safe to use the outpost. In the past many people leveled up and/or explored places like Karnor's Castle (a great place for lowering Venril Sathir faction aside from killing the outpost itself, though some scattered NPC in other places do as well) and thereby harmed their opportunity to do this quest. If you can’t do the turn-ins as you are, skip to #2 or #3, #4 or if higher-level #5.

If you are going to do the turn-ins; it speeds things up considerably to go to the ruined buildings around /loc -1625, 585, -49 instead of chasing roaming Sarnaks all over the zone. All of the static spawns in these ruins can spawn as Sarnak Berserkers, though you will see Sarnak Enthusiasts, the rare spawn Sarnak Gem Oracle, Sarnak Partisans, Sarnak Knights, and the very rare spawn Zorash. Note that the Sarnaks will flee at low health and can run very fast (though not all of them seem to). Also note that if the message “____________ frantically calls for help” pops up then a Sarnak Enforcer comes to beat you (much tougher than the other Sarnaks and drops lore boots and axe that sell for 47p to vendors).

At times the other animals in the zone will path through the ruins and agro (no matter how grey they /con to you). The good part of this camp is the respawn rate is fast and several of the roaming sarnak spawn go through it –so you end up getting extra berserkers that way too.

The dragoon will wander into this area at night. Specifically Dragoon T'Vex came by and cleared house on me on several occasions. Since I was safe to use the outpost, I was safe from him.

2. Some people are close to being acceptable to the outpost faction wise. Bards fit this bill the most as they can use illusion masks and have the faction improving line of songs like Cinda's Charismatic Carillon. Others might have success with An Ornate Velium Pendant and/or illusion potions long enough to do turn-ins and get safe to use the outpost in a natural state. Until safe, the roaming dragoons pose a threat (depending on your level).

3. You don’t have to do the braid quest at all though. Charming the Undead foreman makes him amiable to you as long as he is your pet. Necromancers (can charm undead), Enchanters and Bards all have abilities to do this in the 50s with minimal risk. Puppet Strings are the alternative for non-charming classes. Note that past allakhazam posters cite having better success with high charisma and debuffing the foreman’s magic resist before attempting the puppet strings.

4. The spirit shrouds introduced in Depths of Darkhollow provide another way to accomplish many quests. Dukelatan explained:

“you have to unlock it [the evil eye psion spirit shroud] first. Hail hroudkeeper Hyush or Shroudkeeper Learu in Plane of knowledge, then highlight the "Aberrations" shroud.. shroud down to the level 5 imp wizard. then you XP in field of bone as the imp wizzard shroud to 'unlock' the next shroud, which is the evil eye psion.

(you can check the progression as you XP by going to the shroud tab in your inventory screen)
once you have the evil eye psion unlocked , shroud as a lvl 70 evil eye psion (lvl 50 shroud works at the lowest i think, but higher lvl shroud/charm is more likely to work.. im gonna try to get one at 50 though once my berserker is lvl 50) and go charm the foreman and get your worker sledgehammer.”

So basically you use the shroud to make you an enchanter with a strong charm spell.

5. Once they unlocked a slew of old zones another option for higher-level characters became available in that many npcs in Veeshan’s Peak give +Venril Sathir faction hits when you kill them. Krakajack explained:

“So i got bored reading here on alla's and started exploring a bit. I had read that a lot of zones that needed keys were now open, so i went to VP as i had never been in there before, just to see if i could kill a few dragons, just out of boredom. After a couple of trash mobs I looked at the faction hits, I was getting good faction for VS. So i figured wth, might as well stay awhile and see if it was good enough to get the faction i needed. Later a friend of mine sent me a tell asking if i wanted to do anything and I suggested she come get faction for an OT hammer, just for the sake of having it, (she was an 80 cleric)She decided to get faction for her hubby's pally and we went thru about 40 or so trash mobs, 1 named, most didnt hit very hard, 250ish - 400, took about an hour, by then i read in faction that my faction with VS could not possibly get any better. All the mobs we killed in VP gave good faction for VS.

We gated out and ran back to OT and sure enough i was maxx ally (gnome sk, her hubby was warmly (human pally), and she was indifferent (high elf cleric), so me and the pally both got the hammer after turn in.

This is what i think is a good alternative to the braids and shrouds, i did the braids before and it took me days to collect enough, it was worth it when i was lvl 60, but if your high enough to solo or group in VP i'd definately do that if you dont like level'ing shrouds or gathering braids like me”


Edit: It took my agnostic human monk 88 braids to gain amiable.

Edited, Aug 3rd 2009 4:42pm by snailish
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just in case anyone was wondering shroud charm still works.. altho only shorud i know of that can charm is the evil eye as people have said but i spent a little over an hr getting that shroud so its not hard to get if u have an hr or 2 to spare =P
Better than factioning
# Feb 14 2008 at 7:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Got this today for my 62 barbarian warrior. I had to work on spirit shroud to get the Evil Eye Psion shroud. I maxed out spell casting subtelty, and levitated over the water and around the city to get to him. I cast gaze of the beholder on him and got the hammer, no goons aggro'd. I cast spirit sending, and charm broke just as it was going off. Home free. I think you have to be at least 50 for this method to work. In any case you have to be 50 for the hammer to proc, so you might as well wait until then anyways. It's nice to know the EE shroud still works for this.

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My 48 Bard has his Worker Sledgemallet
# Nov 02 2007 at 11:48 PM Rating: Decent
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After trying to enter from the South and charm him, we tried coming around by levitating over the water and coming at him from the rise on the NW zone edge. I was able to single "pull" with bard charm. No adds! He beat on me a while, but my shammie friend had regened me and I had virtue so I just kept casting charm until it took.

I had the jade in my cursor and handed it to him and got the mallet in one of my huge container slots.

Now I can't wait until 50 so I can use it.

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# Sep 25 2007 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
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I just got this hammer for my 59 Necro (absolutely love it so far) and wanted to share my experience. It is vital that you turn in the jade as quickly as possible to avoid being killed by the Dragoons that will inevitably attack. Have your jade handy and have some kind of run speed modifier (J Boots in my case). Get close to him, charm him, give him the jade, and then run like the wind. I ran to the Skyfire zone because it seemed more direct than trying to get to the PoK book. Again, do this as fast as possible. If charm doesn't land, just run.

The first time I tried it, charm landed right off and I took my sweet time getting the jade out and turning it in. Meanwhile, charm broke, and as he's hitting me and I'm trying to re-charm I see the Dragoons coming and I try to run to PoK. I end up aggroing some other mobs and next thing I know, I'm a corpse. It took about 5 more tries to get charm to land on the first try.
What I ended up doing after an unsuccessful charm was zoning into Skyfire, then back into OT, and catching up with the foreman on his walk back. I hailed him to stop him and let the dragoons walk on back. It still took a few tries for charm to stick, and zoning in between, but eventually I was able to keep him near the Skyfire zone line and was able to get charm to stick and turn in my jade. Remember, though, speed is of the essence!
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# Jun 24 2007 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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The Overthere gate hammer the Worker Sledgemallet is easy to get now using shrouds.

You just have to level up the Abberation shroud from Imp Wizard to the Evil Eye Enchanter. The enchanter of this shroud has an 18 second charm you can use to charm the Undead Foreman in the Overthere. Then just hand him a jade and you get the hammer.

Previously if you were KoS you could not do this quest unless you were a charming class or somehow got the Puppet strings which were a charged charm item, very hard to come by since they are a drop from the golems in Fear.

Even if you were at dubious you had to do a lot of faction work turning in berzerker war braids for faction.
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Ok I just did this with my Bst. Who was over level 70 at the time, from what I gather you have to be at least level 50 for this to work(in order to get the shroud no fail charm). I did level my shroud aberration to level two and this took longer than I was lead to believe. Went to a hot zone and was killing dark blues to red cons and was getting on average 1% per kill. So take lots of healing potions and skinspikes that are shroud level appropriate, best if you can two-box a power-level or have a buddy help you out. After I hit level 2 in the aberration category, I got some invis potions and a sow potion and made the level 70 evil eye psion shroud. The undead foreman in Overthere is down by the boats, I invised up and ran to where he was, not getting to close because he is undead and will see through invis. I did my charm and handed him the jade and got the Gate Hammer, however the charm didn’t last too long maybe 15 secs but seemed like less then he started to attack and all his buddies joined in. I ran to the POK book and gated out with 50% life. I was glad I had drank the sow potion! I would say over all this was very easy although a little time consuming getting the shroud to level I would suggest looking into what others have written about fast shroud leveling.
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Level 5 shroud and Forgotten Hall instance are probably the easiest way. Get health II pot, skinspikes II pots, clarity II pots, and celestial healing II pots and you can get to the next shroud in about an hour or so.

I've spent roughly 10 hours total and unlocked nearly a dozen assorted shrouds this way. Clarity II pot is not needed for melee type shroud though.
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I found with the xp bonus that it's faster to get a 20 shroud if you can and then go lay waste to the hotzone.
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# Apr 16 2007 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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So I have a stupid question.. this is marked 2HB, so I assume a Rogue could not use this? =/
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anyone can use this. even if you have 0 skill in 2hb , you can still swing with it and proc it.
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I disagree. Rogues cannot equip 2HB weapons because they don't have the skill. It's not that their skill is 0, it's that they don't get the skill at all. So, in fact, Rogue's 2HB is the empty set and they cannot equip the Worker Sledgemallet; and you must equip it to swing it to get it to proc...obviously.
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You can equip it and swing with it, even if you have 0 skill in 2hb.
give it a try before you post incorrect info.

i have watched bards proc this.. it just sometimes takes a while, since they have 0 2hb, all they do is miss, but it does eventually proc.

bards dont get any skill in 2hb either, but my ex girlfriend equipped and used this still. Heck, there's posts on ths page about bards who use this.

however, sneak won't work for the quest because you need amiable faction when giving him the jade.

Edited, Jul 14th 2007 8:56pm by DukeLatan
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# Nov 30 2006 at 5:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Where do u get this shroud?
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you have to unlock it first. Hail hroudkeeper Hyush or Shroudkeeper Learu in Plane of knowledge, then highlight the "Aberrations" shroud.. shroud down to the level 5 imp wizard. then you XP in field of bone as the imp wizzard shroud to 'unlock' the next shroud, which is the evil eye psion.

(you can check the progression as you XP by going to the shroud tab in your inventory screen)
once you have the evil eye psion unlocked , shroud as a lvl 70 evil eye psion (lvl 50 shroud works at the lowest i think, but higher lvl shroud/charm is more likely to work.. im gonna try to get one at 50 though once my berserker is lvl 50) and go charm the foreman and get your worker sledgehammer.

Edited, Jul 14th 2007 8:52pm by DukeLatan
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Easy faction
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Managed to max my faction on my dwarf cleric at indifferent. Then managed to get Darkelf illusion and my faction jumped from indifferent to warmly.
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I been useing my hammer like no tomorrow getting out of jams to being very lazy and just wack a mob to go home. But after going to Howling Stones and helpping a friend do a task quest well I screwed my faction up big time. I guess now i have to kill the mob on the boat and run andswim around the fort it really sucks when you blow your faction in OT and have the hammer :o(. I tried the DE potion no luck still KOSed and not sure how to get it up again maybe i can do the Evil eye and charm the captain and turn in 100s of braids again to get my faction up. Mosy likey be easier just to jump off the boat and run toward the beach and kill mobs that jump me. Oh well live and learn next time chek your faction when you hunt in Kunark so you don't mess up like me.
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Oh well live and learn next time check your faction when you hunt in Kunark so you don't mess up like me.


I hear you. I recently came back after being away for 6 years and the first thing I did was to finish the Iksar Skullcap quest for my Dark Elf Necro. I worked a very long time to get my DE into Cabilis, and never even thought about the OT hammer when I had to get a brittle bone in Howling Stones. Bottom line: My OT faction is hosed but good. Will have to level up and start killing in Veeshan's Peak.

Edited, Feb 25th 2013 11:23pm by KEC
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Any faction adjustments - positive or negative - made whilst in Shroud form are negated the instant you remove the Shroud, so handing in Braids in Shroud form will get you nowhere. The way to get faction adjustments in Shroud Form is to use the Shroud form to GET the quest items needed.

For example, to build Cabilis faction you can turn in the knives dropped by Explorers in their tower in the Lake of Ill Omen. Sadly, killing these Explorers will NORMALLY make you KoS to the good guys in Firiona Vie, Kaladim, and Kelethin. To avoid this, you just use a Shroud to kill the Explorers, loot the knives, then DE-Shroud (losing the negative faction you have, in the process) and THEN hand them in :)

Anyway, enough of that, and back to your problem. It's easy enough to get out of Overthere for me, and my faction to Venril Sathir cannot get any worse now, heh. The boat you arrive on is 100% safe, with only an "indifferent" skeleton near you. So, I just Invis (the potions are just a few plat, if you aren't able to cast the spell) or Sneak/Hide, then I jump off the right-hand side of the boat and head to the town wall. Hug the wall and then just exit the town gate and head to the PoK Stone - simple as that. The Foreman, who sees Invis (if memory serves) is out of aggro range if you hug the wall, and the Golem can't see though Invis, so I can't see your problem, really. I have done this many times with a variety of characters and have had no trouble whatsoever.
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Hi all

I've just done this using both the lvl 50 and lvl 70 Evil Eye Psion Shroud, and it worked a treat! I now have my Sledgemallet for my 70 Beastlord and my 50 Ranger, and all for a couple of minutes work and a cost of under 25 plat each, to cover Invis Potions and the Jade.

It certainly saved my Beastlord a LOT of time, as her faction to Venril Sathir "can't get any worse" at the moment :D


(NOTE: If you haven't unlocked the Shroud, it's easy. I'd unlocked it out of curiosity a while back, and it only took me a couple of hours soloing, with lots of potions, in a Hot Zone at level 10. With my druid helping a friend, it took him about an hour.)




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# Aug 14 2006 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Got this the other day with my 32nd Level Woodelf Bard (max KoS). Just bought some Essense of Dark Elf Potions. These raised faction up to Dubious. Went over to an Undead Foreman, then used Bard's faction modifier song to raise faction to amiable. Gave him a Jade, and bam, got the hammer. It's almost unfair... Took me forever to get this with my Dark Elf SK.

Edited, Aug 14th 2006 at 12:11pm EDT by audiom
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Just did this quest with my 59 human monk last night. Need chanter to tash mob first then use puppet strings and turn in jade fast. Chanter lost 1/2 heath and used 2 charge of strings as it wears off fast.

When you use the hammer jump off fast away from the POK book then swim around to the POK book to avoid agro.

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Well I killed the sanraks instead of doing the Shroud quest cuzz undead forman is 50th lvl by the time you get 50 to have a shrouded evil eye to work you can turn in over 100+ war bairds so shrouded hmmm not worth it unless you KOS. I got my hammer i love it use it all the time. Only bad thing you get TPed on a boat don't fall in the hole you will get stuck. Best bet just jump off.
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I try the shroud thing at level 38 as a level 35 evil eye. Well he killed me pretty fast so I'm might need more levels before I try the shroud thing again. I just hope it works soon.
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RE: OT Hammer
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well you should probably wait until your atleast lvl 50 since that is when it Procs.
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The Overthere gate hammer the Worker Sledgemallet is easy to get now using shrouds.

You just have to level up the Abberation shroud from Imp Wizard to the Evil Eye Enchanter. The enchanter of this shroud has an 18 second charm you can use to charm the Undead Foreman in the Overthere. Then just hand him a jade and you get the hammer.

Previously if you were KoS you could not do this quest unless you were a charming class or somehow got the Puppet strings which were a charged charm item, very hard to come by since they are a drop from the golems in Fear.

Even if you were at dubious you had to do a lot of faction work turning in berzerker war braids for faction.
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# May 18 2006 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I can confirm this, just tried it out. Bonus is that the shroud comes with Malosinia. The mob resisted Malosinia the first time but it landed the second time. I casted charm and turned in the Jade and YAY I have my OT hammer. Only had to spend 10 hours as a lvl 5 wizzy in Forgotten Halls :P
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Took me forever because I made the mistake of fighting in Karnors awhile back. Had to camp ruins in OT for a few days and do countless turn ins just to get to apprehensive. Then was like 4 trips of bag fulls to get up to amiable. I Bought the jade off one of the jewelery merch's in PoK. Thank Innoruuk I have this now :-)
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# Oct 30 2005 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I just got mine today...as a wood elf, marr worshiping bard. I collected about 80 sarnak war braids...but I couldn't turn them in, couldn't mez rottgrime and neither could a 70 enc who came to help me.

It was simple after the 70 enc showed up. He mez'd and tashed the foreman for me. Then I used my level 39 charm song on the foreman. Handed in 1 jade and was done.
Faction
# Aug 25 2005 at 5:29 PM Rating: Default
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Does anyone know if a Gnome SK has good faction with The Overthere?
RE: Faction
# Nov 23 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
I believe you will start out being dubious.At least my gnome SK did.

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RE: Faction
# Aug 25 2005 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't know from actual experience but it would be easy and safe enough to check yourself.

Just take the PoK book to the Overthere and run out a ways from the wall. Turn around and target anyone inside and /con them. There should be a big orange golem righ up front that would be happy to be of service.

Almost everyone in the fort is on the same faction except a few quest mobs but I don't think you can target them from outside so it shouldn't be a problem.

Might take all of 5 minutes.
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# Aug 25 2005 at 5:29 PM Rating: Default
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Does anyone know if a Gnome SK has good faction with The Overthere?
illusions and charms
# Aug 16 2005 at 5:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Just tried this quest today.
Am iksar beastlord, max faction in NEGATIVE for venril sathir. Had a 70 chanter charm him, I was in DE form and COULDNT hand in. He will take the jades from you but you dont get the reward. If you hail him like this he will say the 1st part of the text, but will not do the 2nd part of the text and as such you cannot hand in.
Am gonna get some puppet strings and try again real soon.
RE: illusions and charms
# Oct 07 2005 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
You must charm him yourself if you want it to work. Or betther ask a chanter toc ast Delf illusion on you or buy Delf illusion potion. its working
RE: illusions and charms
# Feb 03 2006 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
ask a chanter toc ast Delf illusion on you or buy Delf illusion potion. its working
they said they were in DE =/ pay attention to detail lol
help me
# Jun 23 2005 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
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my main is a 67 sk who is in desperate need of a gate hammer can anyone plz tell me who to hand the war braids into after i farm the huge amount needed for this quest or is there an easier way to do it am open to all suggestions?
Great for gaters too
# Dec 23 2004 at 7:56 AM Rating: Default
I have a few characters with this and the obvious use for it is to give melees a ride home ( or save their neck when a battle goes wrong LOL ) since the OT landing spot is just around the corner from the PoK book. But my 52 necro has one and I love it. Characters with Gate can Bind Affinity at a good hunting spot out in the boonies ( Burning Wood for example ) and use the hammer to jet back to OT. You sell off ( in OT or run to PoK as desired ) and resupply then Gate back to your hunting spot. You only have to run to the remote area once thanks to the hammer. You can Gate-to-hunt and hammer-proc-to-OT as often as you like until you have out-leveled the area and run to your new hunting place and re-bind there. This hammer is a serious time saver :-)
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RE: Great for gaters too
# Apr 03 2005 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
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The level for effect is 50. I don't know how many classes that gate can effectively use this against npc's of that level (assuming your in an area where you can get XP--you did say "a good hunting spot") and get it to proc before dying in a melee fight, especially with the low damage, high delay and a typical caster's relatively low strength, dexterity and melee abilities. You say it works fine for you and is a time saver. I guess I have to take your word on that, but with a little skepticism.

Edited, Sun Apr 3 06:39:38 2005
RE: Great for gaters too
# Apr 03 2005 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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Mobs in burning woods don't hit that hard, and necros can lifetap. Also, feared mobs don't hit you at all, they just try to run away.

I would imagine the necro tactic with this would be: darkness, fear, melee from behind. when fear breaks, back off, refear, lifetap back to full then melee again.



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RE: Great for gaters too
# Nov 21 2005 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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"Mobs in burning woods don't hit that hard"

Ok. That's one zone.


"and necros can lifetap"

Indeed, but hammer is ALL/ALL and not every caster class can fear.

So you've basically limited this hammer to a few classes in few zones.




Edited, Mon Nov 21 17:23:12 2005
RE: Great for gaters too
# May 22 2005 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, (xaanru can probably verify this) you don't need to make contact with your weapon for a proc to work. You could have horrible 2HB skill, miss every time and still have this proc to send you home.
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RE: Great for gaters too
# Jul 05 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Default
Also, the higher delay gives it a higher chance to proc per swing, as per the great averages of proccage. If you take off haste items there's a pretty good chance I'd say you could proc this within the first 5 swings and if not that then 10 at absolute most.
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# Dec 13 2004 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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I cannot praise this item enough. It has saved both my BST and ROG on many occasions... I'm sure anyone who has this hammer knows its value.

However, I would like to add that the hammer combined with the pure melee COUNTERATTACK Discipline is priceless. It is a guaranteed out in almost any situation.

some anecdotes...

I fell asleep at a GE raid the other night with my rogue. When I work up, I was alone, and locked in the second floor... so I tagged a shadowy guardian, got 2 ti the disc with the hammer wielded and free trip to OT!

Similarly, my BST was left out of an evac, 3 red mobs staring me down, and I pop in the hammer and Boom! I'm in OT. I get a group-tell 'consent me, I'll go get your corpse'. Of course there was none to be found!

Get this hammer, use this hammer, cut your deaths down by 90%

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How do Rangers Charm?
# Sep 12 2004 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
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How is a Ranger supposed to charm something? From what I can tell, we get no Charm spells.
RE: How do Rangers Charm?
# Nov 10 2004 at 5:07 PM Rating: Default
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get puppet strings man. may wanna tash, root, snare, then charm tho

faction?
# Sep 12 2004 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
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i have a 53 necro conns indifferent and turned in jade 2 times, no mallet, do i need to farm braids to get faction up?
RE: faction?
# Jun 26 2006 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
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You need to con amiable. It took my Dark Elf SK 44 braids to move from indifferent to amiable.
Watch out for Dragoons. . .
# Sep 11 2004 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
L54 Necro (well, 54-53-54-53-54-53-54, kept getting killed by Dragoons trying to charm the foreman.) Overall, 3 deaths by goons.

Had to remove both negative CHA items, put in two Opal Encrusted Steins, and get CHA buff from PoK, even with CHA then at 198, took (I lost count) probably 30 (40?) casts of Thrall of Bones (and Comatose on fail) to get the Charm to stick long enough for trade in. Probably stuck 4 times altogether. Twice for less than 1 sec, one for about 5 secs, then finally one for 8 secs. (I never Charm, it could be my low skill on that spell.)

So I have it now. Takes FOREVER to get it to proc. Went to Toxilla, tried on Giant Briar snakes. (They can't hurt me, had to kill 3 SLOWLY whacking away, to get it to proc.) My DEX is about 114. Can't seem to attack pet, or drog, or myself and get it to proc. It can be challenging to find a Green mob, with enough HP (but without much return Damage to me) strong enough to live, while I whack away and wait for it to proc. But eventually, it does work.

Total cost? About 1.2k for Essence Emeralds to rez myself, 5p for the Jade. 3 Hours of Charming / death / Charming. Also, watch out once on the boat. DON'T FALL IN THE HOLE IN THE FLOOR. Couldn't Shadow Step out. And can't "go to end of boat poke head up and jump out", as described elsewhere here. (Afraid one of the colission patches made that ineffective.) If you fall in the hole in the boat. . . I hope you have someone to summon you out.

If I could get it to proc without a mob's patient cooperation. . . might be worth the trouble for the 2nd gate. Good Luck.

Edited, Sat Sep 11 01:07:10 2004
RE: Watch out for Dragoons. . .
# Sep 11 2004 at 5:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Since you are a necro, what about gating out the hole and restart procing hammer ? :)
Also damage output from this hammer is laughable and almost nobody will refuse to either let you smash their mob or duel for making it proc.
Another way is snare + fear, work pretty good too.
RE: Watch out for Dragoons. . .
# Oct 07 2004 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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My bard got it in about 2 mins, but I used my DE illusion mask. The hole in the floor does suck. I just make sure that I always levitate before I move anywhere. I did manage to shadowstep out of the boat once, but it took about 15 tries. If you're KoS to the outpost, and don't have anyway to illusion your self into Non-KoS status, this item probably won't even be worth it for you, as you still have to LEAVE the outpost in one piece. You could IVU past the skeles, then invis past the golems, but you have to hope there's no Dragoons nearby that are going to see through your IVU.

As far as proccing, I always do as AxleMun said. I ask someone to duel me. If there's no one to duel, I'll ask a group if I can proc my hammer off of one of their mobs. They normally don't have a problem with it.
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# Aug 18 2004 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Im bard.. got this at lvl 49... used DE mask... then the song... then gave him a jade and bam I got the mallet..

its pretty sweet... CAN be proced while sinign another song or casting a spell... instant proc/port... took a while to proc tho not very good to get out of tight places... just good to get back from somewhere if ur deep in...
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How?
# Jul 05 2004 at 2:34 AM Rating: Decent
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I am collecting braids with my 53 ranger and she is a woodelf...i am KOS with darkelf illusion..i am guessing because i am not agnostic...my question is...how can I turn in the braids without dying? Or is that just impossible for me?

Hope someone can please help me...:(
RE: How?
# Jul 25 2004 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
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It can be done utilizing sneak and a non-kos friend. Invis past the front gargs, turn to the right and kind of hide in the corner behind the pillars. You will be out of the skeletons agro range from there. Target a skeleton and use sneak until you are actually sneaking and they con indifferent. Now have your friend hail Capt. Rottgrime to turn him around. He will then be indifferent to you also. Edge up behind the line of skeletons until you are close enough to trade with the capt. but so that you are still behind the line of soldiers. Doing this you should be able to turn in the braids and work up your faction.

You may want to wait until the goons leave on patrol as they have a pretty large agro range. I got my tunare woodelf bard up to dubious in DE illusion this way but I was too tired of berzerkers to go any further. Good Luck!

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Edited, Sun Jul 25 01:02:06 2004
Ok How?
# May 18 2004 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
I am a High Elf Paladin who trashed VS Faction early in life in KC. I am trying to get this darn hammer now but am finding ALOT of road blocks.

First I tried the DE+OVP = failed (Still KoS)
Second tried Charmed+DE+OVP = failed (Still Indifferent)
So I want to do the braid turn-ins forever so I can get high enough. Aside from killing dragons that appear to never be up on my server (always killed 5 minutes after they pop)how do I turn in to the Capt when he is KoS aswell? If he is charmed and indiff to me will I be able to do the turn in or not?

Edited, Tue May 18 13:03:04 2004
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RE: Ok How?
# Feb 28 2005 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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My hi elf pally did it with a bard, puppet strings, and a chanter. Got it on 1st attempt. BE AWARE> charm wore off about 1 second after I clicked GIVE. He is VERY MR. Have jade IN HAND and ready to hand him, as soon as you get him charmed.

My necro just charmed him, with the help of a chanter to tash him. Charm wore off really fast, and had to FD and try again a few tries before I finally got the sledgemallet.

Also, if you are KOS in outpost (both of my toons are/were), IMMEDIATELY after you pop on top of the ship, turn RIGHT about 45 degrees and run run run up the hill. I have never gotten agro that way. Once up hill, I just head to the water and swim or lev+run around to the book via the water. Just stasy wide of teh docks and you'll have no issues.

Hardest part was finding someone with a puppet strings to use to charm him with.

Hope this helps.

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RE: Ok How?
# Jun 26 2004 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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1 bard
1 puppet string

that's "all" you need (the hard being getting the puppet string :p)
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RE: Ok How?
# Jun 15 2004 at 4:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Any non KOS faction is enough to turn in the braids to the captain. I would assume you could charm him for that. The thing is that it takes LOTS of braids to go from KOS to amiable. Something on the order of a thousand from max KOS. Since you don't have any means besides charming the captain to turn them in, I'd suggest looking for some puppet strings to skip the faction hurdle.
88braids
# Mar 31 2004 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
takes 88 braids for an iksar sk to get this under an ogre illusion
Simple with the right bard
# Feb 06 2004 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
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All you need as an agnostic bard is to use DE illusion (from the Mask of Deception, for instance) and then sing the level 11 song 'Cinda's Charismatic Callion' to the Foreman. Give him 1 jade and you get the hammer.

I did this at level 25 without a problem. The trick is being agnostic so you don't agro any of the DE guards (my high elf chanter friend died with DE illusion up)
RE: Simple with the right bard
# Mar 07 2004 at 8:11 PM Rating: Decent
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i have been farming braids for about a week now. My Factions was in the dumper from hunting in KC. I have already turned in 200+ braids and guess what? .....im still KOS yep. thats rite. Just a bit of Advice for those that need alot of Braids. The Sarnak ruins just down from the FM zone has 10 spawns. w/ a 6 min respawn you can pretty much keep a steady kill going. I get about 3 to 5 beserkers per cycle. GL.
RE: Simple with the right bard
# Mar 02 2004 at 1:07 AM Rating: Default
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First off, Charming the undead foreman does nothing unless you are the charmer. IE..Ornate velium pendant doesnt change his Faction..You will still be Indiff to him. I know i tried it tonight. Necro mezzed and Mage maloed. I clicked the OVP on me AND the undead foreman . Neither changed his con..He stayed indiff. Please stop posting ur lame ideas unless you have done them recently. You just send people like me to thurgadin to kill Coldains for needless items..................kthnx
RE: Simple with the right bard
# Aug 04 2004 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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what are you talking about? he DID say that he was the charmer, therefore what he said was relevant
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Get this cheap, quick, and easy.
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without resist down song?
# Dec 02 2003 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
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hiya all =)
i m a 51 bard without any resist down song.
and i fed up with collecting sarnak braids for faction up even with DE form.

so have a question .
can 51 bard without resist down song can charm foreman?
i know it is really hard.
but is it possible?

oh ya my cha is 138 now.
and i use unicorn horn =)(i m poor)

Edited, Tue Dec 2 23:42:30 2003
RE: without resist down song?
# Dec 29 2003 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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yes it is possible but expect to burn quite a bit of mana to get it to stick, bringing a shammy to malo sure helps ;)
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# Nov 13 2003 at 11:23 AM Rating: Default
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# Oct 20 2003 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
Here is my experience getting the Worker Sledgemallet. I'm and ogre SK worshiping Rallos Zek. I started the quest being apprehensive to the folks at the OOT outpost. So I went to the sarnak camp at loc pos2300, neg2300 and started farming the braids from the Sarnak Berserkers. I got my factions (Venril Sathir) to amiably after turning in 88 "A Sarnak War Braid" to Captain Rottgrime.
Worked Sledgemalle and faction
# Sep 18 2003 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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Here is my experience getting this mallet. Started out with Threatening faction. Tried the Dark Elf potion - didn't change faction at all...if it used to work it does not anymore. So I pulled Rottgrime way out of the Outpost (easy to split him from his troops as a 58 monk, do it between 10pm and 6am to avoid the guards) and had my 64 Chanter bud try to charm him. Did not work...he got resisted every time. So Chanter zoned at book and I pulled Rottgrime way out from Outpost again, FD'd and hit sneak. When he started walking away I got up and managed to turn in 8 Braids while following him (kind of hard to do since Rottgrime runs off and attacks any nearby mobs). Luckily 8 braids got me to Dubious so I at least did not have to worry about pulling him out of Outpost again. I had to turn in 200 more braids just to get to apprehensive. 80 more braids got me to indiff, and only 40 more got me to amiable so that I could get my Sledgemallet. The best place to get Braids is at the ruins in OT at -1500, +500. I was able to get about 30-40 braids (and 200-250pp in cash and gems) an hour there. Braids drop off the Bezerkers in case you don't know. Hope this helps.

Title should say Worker Sledgemallet and Faction...duh...oh well.

Edited, Thu Sep 18 20:27:36 2003
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