This ones not as bad as the Tunare ones, taking away cha is not really a disadvantage, just take it off when you sell. How many Cazic enchanters are there anyways (no offense if there are some of you out there). But the int bonus isn't even comparible to say, a batfang (5int) or even the other made ones, cant quite remember the name, but they're 4int, 2 str, twice as good. Ohh well, these are a nice starter item for evil pure casters, I hope they're cheap :P