Scars of Velious
I was doing a lot of thinking based on the matter of whether this weapon was worth buying for a rogue. This weapon comes across to me as a pure boost to the melee power of the main hand. allowing more BS potential and more hits per round. However, this also means more BS taunt per round. So there is a problem there.
Secondly, I was thinking about the group situation where
1) There is an enchie or shaman in the group
2) No enchie or shaman in group.
With an enchie or shaman, I basically would have hit the haste cap at lvl 41 if they were to cast things like celerity or even alacrity on me. And I would be left with a rusty sword on my offhand.
Thus the weapon will only be an option in groups post 50 where the haste cap is abolished. Without enchies or shammies however, this thing will allow me to become the most fast hitting person in the group. Which means potentially the highest damager and the highest taunt when compared to peeps the same level as me. This shouldn't really be much of a problem here.And it's where the weapon's power can really shine.But frankly speaking, I haven't been in any single group at this stage not wishing for an enchie or grabbing one at the first chance. So there.I would most likely do more damage with an fbss and 2 not so solid wpns in my hands than with this and 1 solid wpn in my main hand.This applies at any stage below or at 50. This is not really a viable option for rogues below lvl 51.It is too expensive for it's worth at this stage.Will consider this however once i hit 51 and prolly will not get my epic so soon.
Velium Swiftblade
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Well thought out. But Rogues outdamage Wizards in a fight. A group that doesn't have a Shaman or Enchanter will need the Rogue to pull the weight that much more as a result. Even if you don't use it all the time, when you do use it, it can save you and your group a time/experience consuming Corpse Retrieval. I don't play a Rogue, but this looks like THE best offhand weapon under most circumstances. It makes the epic better, and can always be bagged for something with a lower delay.
The Rogue epic weapon already has a haste effect, Kitsinu:
Ragebringer ==> 40% haste
VSB ========> 36% haste <cry>
Both of these haste effects are permanent and will not stack :(
I like my VSB (and use it almost constantly with the LSoEE), but I can't wait to get at least half of my damn epic! (the Swiftwind, which is also 40% haste)
Khemosaabe "SPAM" Longbow
Lvl 54 Slayer-of-Bunny-Wabbits
"***** the power of flight! Most would-be superheroes want STRETCHING powers!"
Edited, Tue Jan 29 20:53:10 2002
Ragebringer ==> 40% haste
VSB ========> 36% haste <cry>
Both of these haste effects are permanent and will not stack :(
I like my VSB (and use it almost constantly with the LSoEE), but I can't wait to get at least half of my damn epic! (the Swiftwind, which is also 40% haste)
Khemosaabe "SPAM" Longbow
Lvl 54 Slayer-of-Bunny-Wabbits
"***** the power of flight! Most would-be superheroes want STRETCHING powers!"
Edited, Tue Jan 29 20:53:10 2002
Im fairly positive the rogue epic doesnt have haste but even if it did, it wouldnt interfere with the VSB, it would interfere with chanter/shaman haste as spells stack with perm effects and songs, but not with other spells. From what I hear from the rogues in my guild at least, the effect is like a berzerker strenght type buff, giving str and a small, rune-type invulnerability. In either case, one would not harm the performance of the other...
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the VSB is not beter then the rog epic however the epic effect of seething fury is a perminent haste like the CoF and does not stack with haste items but it does stack with enchanter and bard hastes
I used the VSB for a bit pre epic but then sold it off for armor ><
Ninasea Ninadew |Fires Within|
blackguard of |>00|\/|
seventh hammer
I used the VSB for a bit pre epic but then sold it off for armor ><
Ninasea Ninadew |Fires Within|
blackguard of |>00|\/|
seventh hammer
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I was thinking a lot about whether or not to procure this weapon. As it seems, it is formidable beyond doubt. But I have my reservations. I am a rogue of 41ish and I would like to see the day when this weapon falls in my hands. However, I was thinking whether this weapon would be worth sacrificing the offhand damage for more BS and main hand damage. From what I can guess, it will only be effective if I can get something powerful like a small dragonbone shard to couple with this thing. But that weapon by itself is expensive and rare. If there is any high level rogue that can ascertain the facts about this weapon's viability for our class, please do post a reply.
I got a lvl 40 Ranger that just got the Velium Swiftblade. Ive tryed it with Lammy, Glowing Black Sword, Green Jade Axe, Velium Warsword, Skyfire, and the Wurmslayer. If u Solo "which i do", Keep with the Wurmslayer/VSB combo! With caster mob's use a shorter delay weapon with it.
I keep the Glowing Black Sword in my inventory just cause i like the +20 dex, and it aint all that slow 9/22. "in case u have to root and use ur bow"
I have to admit, the haste effect is pretty impressive, your kick and primary weapon haste is much faster. If u got a Chanter/Bard/Shammy in your group with Haste Spell, Its pretty nice to watch u dish out damage in such a short time. Downside is u take more Aggro, ON YOU! Thats the point right?
Applejuce Tolanheart
40th Ranger
Inny Server
I keep the Glowing Black Sword in my inventory just cause i like the +20 dex, and it aint all that slow 9/22. "in case u have to root and use ur bow"
I have to admit, the haste effect is pretty impressive, your kick and primary weapon haste is much faster. If u got a Chanter/Bard/Shammy in your group with Haste Spell, Its pretty nice to watch u dish out damage in such a short time. Downside is u take more Aggro, ON YOU! Thats the point right?
Applejuce Tolanheart
40th Ranger
Inny Server
7 posts
This item is pretty nice for us bards...try using Breath of Harmony and Velium Swiftblade =)
Songfugel Vendorallen
Twinkling bard of the 47th note
Cazic-Thule
Songfugel Vendorallen
Twinkling bard of the 47th note
Cazic-Thule
27 posts
I can't believe the amount of crap on here. It can't get anymore confusing. I am now dumber than ever after having read it. Simple questions require simple answers...
1) This is obviously an off-hand weapon, so what is the best weapon in the primary hand for a Ranger? Wurmslayer?
2) Is haste increased even more when this weapon is used with the FBSS or any other items? What does it stack/not stack with... simplified please.
3) When explaining, please don't use abbreviations, for some of us don't know what they mean.
Simplify this, please.
1) This is obviously an off-hand weapon, so what is the best weapon in the primary hand for a Ranger? Wurmslayer?
2) Is haste increased even more when this weapon is used with the FBSS or any other items? What does it stack/not stack with... simplified please.
3) When explaining, please don't use abbreviations, for some of us don't know what they mean.
Simplify this, please.
14 posts
This is what I've heard, and come to believe after burning lots of cash on different weapons in EC to finally find the ones I like:
PRIMARY HAND WEAPON
Damage = Doesn't matter, Delay = Matters a lot.
OFFHAND WEAPON
Damage = Matters a lot, Delay = Doesn't matter.
Your offhand weapon supposedly acts like a proc. A quick primary weapon means more swings, which, in turn, means more chances for offhand weapon to attack (or proc). This weapon is real good, because, with the haste, it's fast as hell. Stick a Green Jaded Broadsword, or something else with a high damage, in your offhand, and watch the aggro swing your way. If you don't believe me, well...
Pullse Skyshroud
Ranger of the 53rd Beatdown
"Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to thier level, then beat you with experience."
PRIMARY HAND WEAPON
Damage = Doesn't matter, Delay = Matters a lot.
OFFHAND WEAPON
Damage = Matters a lot, Delay = Doesn't matter.
Your offhand weapon supposedly acts like a proc. A quick primary weapon means more swings, which, in turn, means more chances for offhand weapon to attack (or proc). This weapon is real good, because, with the haste, it's fast as hell. Stick a Green Jaded Broadsword, or something else with a high damage, in your offhand, and watch the aggro swing your way. If you don't believe me, well...
Pullse Skyshroud
Ranger of the 53rd Beatdown
"Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to thier level, then beat you with experience."
7 posts
Honestly I wonder who still spouts this bs.
Primary hand wpns damage and delay both come into account... damage+damage modifer (based on level of melee)... Wpn swings once every time your wpn delay time runs through.
Off hand wpn... works on a skill based system... your off hand has a skill check that determines if it swings every time your off hand wpns delay time runs through.
The only difference between the two is that you off hand has a skill check to swing or not swing.
Add in double attack /or tripple attack and that is where your confusing numbers come into play.
What this means with this wpn is YES you will get significantly less damage from your off hand...AND it will swing significantly less.
BUT for those of you who have done your math (Pars. your damn logs and do it yourself...don't belive the brainless twits that abound in everquest.) You will find that the extra main hand swings MORE then compensate for the minor loss in off hand swings untill you reach 50+. At which point your off hand skill starts to do a more significant portion of your melee damage.
At this point you should get a new haste item, or contiune using your wurm. for soloing.
Also...if you consider the haste formula
(100/(haste+100)*delay=hasted delay
You will find that using this 40% in combination with ench, haste for a great deal of your fighting giving you 100% haste, using a low delay wpn (in actuallity anything 26 delay or less) and you will have reached the delay Cap for wpns with is 13...no wpn can go below 13 delay with haste.
So it's pointless to sacrafice your off hand with this wpn when it's haste is basically being voided if you group with any hasting member.
Primary hand wpns damage and delay both come into account... damage+damage modifer (based on level of melee)... Wpn swings once every time your wpn delay time runs through.
Off hand wpn... works on a skill based system... your off hand has a skill check that determines if it swings every time your off hand wpns delay time runs through.
The only difference between the two is that you off hand has a skill check to swing or not swing.
Add in double attack /or tripple attack and that is where your confusing numbers come into play.
What this means with this wpn is YES you will get significantly less damage from your off hand...AND it will swing significantly less.
BUT for those of you who have done your math (Pars. your damn logs and do it yourself...don't belive the brainless twits that abound in everquest.) You will find that the extra main hand swings MORE then compensate for the minor loss in off hand swings untill you reach 50+. At which point your off hand skill starts to do a more significant portion of your melee damage.
At this point you should get a new haste item, or contiune using your wurm. for soloing.
Also...if you consider the haste formula
(100/(haste+100)*delay=hasted delay
You will find that using this 40% in combination with ench, haste for a great deal of your fighting giving you 100% haste, using a low delay wpn (in actuallity anything 26 delay or less) and you will have reached the delay Cap for wpns with is 13...no wpn can go below 13 delay with haste.
So it's pointless to sacrafice your off hand with this wpn when it's haste is basically being voided if you group with any hasting member.
1) There are quite a few 1hs weapons better than the wurmslayer that can go in the primary hand, & i won't even try to name them here.
2) No, the permanent haste on items will not stack w/ permanent haste on other items. Whichever items adds more will be the one counted. Permanent haste on any item will stack w/ any haste spell, and just like the items, two haste spells will not stack; the one w/ the higher percentage is the one the game will use. The bard songs Melody of Ervaj & Composition of Ervaj stack w/ all spell & item hastes, but it doesn't matter since they suck anyway. Total haste is capped @ 60% before level 50, & i believe it's 100% post 50. If i remember correctly, the Ervaj songs allow you to go over the haste cap, but again, it doesn't matter since they suck so much (5% haste on the lower level one & 10% on the higher one).
2) No, the permanent haste on items will not stack w/ permanent haste on other items. Whichever items adds more will be the one counted. Permanent haste on any item will stack w/ any haste spell, and just like the items, two haste spells will not stack; the one w/ the higher percentage is the one the game will use. The bard songs Melody of Ervaj & Composition of Ervaj stack w/ all spell & item hastes, but it doesn't matter since they suck anyway. Total haste is capped @ 60% before level 50, & i believe it's 100% post 50. If i remember correctly, the Ervaj songs allow you to go over the haste cap, but again, it doesn't matter since they suck so much (5% haste on the lower level one & 10% on the higher one).
Anonymous
Still even with the haste on the swiftblade nobody would use it other then for soloing. Why you ask, well most of the time in group you will have an encahnter with you, so that haste item + enchanter buff normally means you hit the haste CAP anyways, thus it renders the switfblade a useless weapon.
3 posts
I won this on a gravy roll in Kael with some friends. We all thought... yeah nice weapon to give a twink. For fun, I thought I would try it out a few night with a wurmslayer. So... I went and bought another wurm and equipped this with it. Grouped up with some folks and got haste. Well, to make a long story short, I ended up selling my hast belt and am still carrying this weapon today. It would take a pretty good offer to get me to part with it. Not to mention it has a nice graphic also. Looks like a big katana. There's my two cents worth. Take it or leave it.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 12 2001 at 10:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I won this on a gravy roll in Kael with some friends. We all thought... yeah nice weapon to give a twink. For fun, I thought I would try it out a few night with a wurmslayer. So... I went and bought another wurm and equipped this with it. Grouped up with some folks and got haste. Well, to make a long story short, I ended up selling my hast belt and am still carrying this weapon today. It would take a pretty good offer to get me to part with it. Not to mention it has a nice graphic also. Looks like a big katana. There's my two cents worth. Take it or leave it.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 12 2001 at 10:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I won this on a gravy roll in Kael with some friends. We all thought... yeah nice weapon to give a twink. For fun, I thought I would try it out a few night with a wurmslayer. So... I went and bought another wurm and equipped this with it. Grouped up with some folks and got haste. Well, to make a long story short, I ended up selling my hast belt and am still carrying this weapon today. It would take a pretty good offer to get me to part with it. Not to mention it has a nice graphic also. Looks like a big katana. There's my two cents worth. Take it or leave it.
2 posts
i been offer a fungi tunic and 30kpp for this
Scholar
24 posts
Heh, you're either lying or foolish not to take that deal. It's only worth 15kpp.
Yeah, that would be a pretty sweet deal for you... i'd say it's worth about the same, or probably less as a fungi tunic.
2 posts
lvl 50 haste 40%
lvl 55 haste 55%
lvl 60 haste 70%
lvl 55 haste 55%
lvl 60 haste 70%
Scholar
24 posts
Despite it's haste, which is good none the less, it isn't one of the best weapons in the game. You will hardly see it being used by lvl 50+ melee classes because it takes up a melee spot when you could put Haste in a differen't spot and weild 2 good dam/dly weapons. At higher lvls you can easily get a belt that hastes 40 or 50% while keeping 2 VERY good weapons in your melee slots.
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Sorry Mr. Wizard... 40% haste items don't grow on trees. An FBSS or Dragonborn Sash is the best a lot of people will see (if they see one at all) and that's around 20%.
I know plenty of 50+ warriors who use one simply for the haste. Coupled with a Wurmslayer you get the best damage output per second than any other combo. I believe another warrior posted as much below.
The only way someone could beat having a Swiftblade in the offhand, is if they were duel wielding stuff from North ToV, along with a Haste item from ToV.
I know plenty of 50+ warriors who use one simply for the haste. Coupled with a Wurmslayer you get the best damage output per second than any other combo. I believe another warrior posted as much below.
The only way someone could beat having a Swiftblade in the offhand, is if they were duel wielding stuff from North ToV, along with a Haste item from ToV.
ROFL this & wurmy being the best combo... thanks, i needed a nice laugh.
People have absolutely no clue about damage. Why do you think you see these being sold? BECAUSE THEY ARE NO GOOD. People sell this and get a FBSS and some other items, and still the price of these are dropping. There is no way this ever goes over 40% haste, I doubt it even gets to 40% but if it does, great. Now you have no offhand damage. Sure you have 4% more haste than a dragon cloak, and you are hitting for 15 with your offhand, load of crap. As a Ranger I outdamage warriors with better delay weapons mainhand cause I have my crazy 5/14 whip, and with damage bonus and haste, it is not even a contest. Sure a wurm is godly damage delay, and I used it pre 45, but what happens when you miss? Life sucks, hard :( Anyway, sell these like everyone else on the server is. At some point everyone will realize how crappy they are, and you do not want to be stuck with one 8)
19 posts
Heh, ive got one of these on my lvl 39 rogue, yea sure you might be thinking thats gimp, only lvl 39, but with this and a trak tooth heheh, oh man, with the haste, and increase in BS speed it seems like, fark i do ALOT of dmg hehehe
Great weapon, been offered over 45k for it
Great weapon, been offered over 45k for it
I agree with you it would be uber for a rouge or ANY class...........and i would sell it for 40k and buy a new one for 15-20 and you make a nice little profit to buy some new armor or something.......
Anonymous
does anyone know where this item drops?
You probably already know by now. In case you don't, it drops in Kael Drakkal. We got one near the bank from about the third guy in. The Rogue won it. He is lower level, but by the looks of these posts, he will gain level fast with it. It was nice that he had won it, items for plate wearers, silk wearers and leather wearers had already dropped. Only fitting that a chain wearer won it, and that the chain wearer that could best use it win. I hope I am correct in thinking a Rogue is the best class to weild this since it boosts his back stabbing to make up for the low damage? It looks really nice on him too, a pity it isn't a bit bigger in his Gnome form.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 16 2001 at 2:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hehe, I got one of these today for my SK cause I thought it looked good. I traded Gauntlets of power for it. 11ac, +5str, +20hps, and look dark red when worn. All I can say is...damn did I ever come out ahead of the game.
Anonymous
I know it's not a porc anymore, it is item haste, not spell haste now.. It does stack with spells, but now items.. Here is the odd thing though...
I've had it for 5 levels... I parse often..
At level 45, I measured 35% haste.
At level 46, I measured 36% haste.
At level 50, I measured 40% haste...
I'll be very interested to see if it keeps going up like this...
I've had it for 5 levels... I parse often..
At level 45, I measured 35% haste.
At level 46, I measured 36% haste.
At level 50, I measured 40% haste...
I'll be very interested to see if it keeps going up like this...
Anonymous
ok I don't care what the opinion is as far as it's value or worth as a weapon, but for many weeks this sword no longer procs. As for it's effect being permanent now I'm not sure, but if it is it was greatly reduced from before.
I've tried petitions, bug reports and feedback, it seems like the customer support staff must be replaced each week because no one ever seems to have even heard of it.
when it did work it affected both hands weapons and while it would stack with worn haste items like FBSS it did not with buff types.
It used to give a flashing boot buff icon and a message that your heart was beating faster
I've tried petitions, bug reports and feedback, it seems like the customer support staff must be replaced each week because no one ever seems to have even heard of it.
when it did work it affected both hands weapons and while it would stack with worn haste items like FBSS it did not with buff types.
It used to give a flashing boot buff icon and a message that your heart was beating faster
Anonymous
I've noticed that when I use my Velium Swiftblade on my 12 lvl toon the Swiftblade seems to be pretty slow when I put it on my 55 warrior the thing is unbelievable (at least twice as fast). I think this may be an item whose haste goes up with level.
Anonymous
The haste is much faster than a FBSS, I have tried both a Sash of Dragonborn and the Velium Swiftblade and the Swiftblade makes my Wurmslayer far, far faster. Another combo I have tried is the Swiftblade with a Sword of Skyfire, I never stop swinging when using this combo, it is truly amazing!
Anonymous
This thing is incredible. I just got it the other day and tossed it in my off hand. My backstab refreshed much, much faster then it did with my old fbss. My damage output whent through the roof, and my group instantly became the exp group in Kael.
Like everybody is saying, this is perm item haste now. I clocked it at 37% myself. Also, like everybody says, this thing looks incredible.
I put this blade easily in the top 10 Rogue items in the game. (The Ragebringer being the top Rogue item for those that can get one)
Like everybody is saying, this is perm item haste now. I clocked it at 37% myself. Also, like everybody says, this thing looks incredible.
I put this blade easily in the top 10 Rogue items in the game. (The Ragebringer being the top Rogue item for those that can get one)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 30 2001 at 9:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Goes for 650p on Tribunal cuz the damage SUCKS!!!! Better off with any other Haste item, 2 good 1hs and you out do this w/ any weapon by miles! Even a Mithril 2-Hander out does this when dual-weilded w/ a Wurn! So yeah, this really sux, unless u don't know what u r talking about like the 1st posts up there! LOL dude should have sold or traded!
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 24 2001 at 4:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I would just like to point one thing out about this post. Since when could you dual-wield a Mithral "2 hander" (that should have hinted to you that you were typing out of your bumm)? Obviously a caster posting to try and sound intelligent. A tank would know better.
Anonymous
Let me fill you in bud...
I am a 53 Warrior. This is my current weapon list.
1hs: 2xLamentation, Velium Swiftblade, Wurmslayer.
2hs: Arbitors Combine Greatsword, Thornblade of the Yakesha.
1hb: 2x Jade Mace.
Pierce: Blood Point.
Haste items : Hangman's Noose, Sash of the Dragon Born.
I do logs every night. Most often I hunt in Karnors.
My haste caps at 104%.. The Velium Swiftblade + Aayna's Quickening is the only way I can get there right now.
I have logged
23dmg/sec with dual Lam,
25dmg/sec with Jade_Pri/Lam_Offhand,
25dmg/sec dual Jade,
27dmg/sec Jade_Pri/Vel_Offhand,
31dmg/sec Wurm_Pri/Jade_Offhand,
34dmg/sec Wurm_Pri/Vel_Offhand
29dmg/sec Arbitor's
27dmg/sec Thornblade
21dmg/sec Lam_Pri/Blood Point_Offhand
By parseing out differances in slash-blunt-pierce.
Lam_Offhand = 8dmg/sec
Jade_Offhand = 8dmg/sec (actually 8.3 but I round)
Vel_Offhand = 6dmg/sec (actually 5.7 but I round)
Blod_Point)Offhand = 7dmg/sec
Any combo that does not have the Vel, has the 26% haste dragonborn... The Vel combo's do the most damage.. The Vel+Wurmslayer does the most by far.
The offhand can and often will hit for 1dmg, has no level based damage bonus (only the str bonus with at 255str makes about a 7% differance overall). Because of this, most of your damage comes from the primary hand.. 40% haste applied to the primary hand more then makes up for the small loss in offhand damage. The speed increase to the offhand reduces that loss...
Before you say, just get a RBB or something, try it.. I have been offering 65kp+my fungi tunic for two weeks with no takers so that I could test that as well.
A great bonus is the AC I can get when I use the Vel.
I have the items, I run the logs, I fight the hard fights.. You, my friend, just post uninformed junk.
I am a 53 Warrior. This is my current weapon list.
1hs: 2xLamentation, Velium Swiftblade, Wurmslayer.
2hs: Arbitors Combine Greatsword, Thornblade of the Yakesha.
1hb: 2x Jade Mace.
Pierce: Blood Point.
Haste items : Hangman's Noose, Sash of the Dragon Born.
I do logs every night. Most often I hunt in Karnors.
My haste caps at 104%.. The Velium Swiftblade + Aayna's Quickening is the only way I can get there right now.
I have logged
23dmg/sec with dual Lam,
25dmg/sec with Jade_Pri/Lam_Offhand,
25dmg/sec dual Jade,
27dmg/sec Jade_Pri/Vel_Offhand,
31dmg/sec Wurm_Pri/Jade_Offhand,
34dmg/sec Wurm_Pri/Vel_Offhand
29dmg/sec Arbitor's
27dmg/sec Thornblade
21dmg/sec Lam_Pri/Blood Point_Offhand
By parseing out differances in slash-blunt-pierce.
Lam_Offhand = 8dmg/sec
Jade_Offhand = 8dmg/sec (actually 8.3 but I round)
Vel_Offhand = 6dmg/sec (actually 5.7 but I round)
Blod_Point)Offhand = 7dmg/sec
Any combo that does not have the Vel, has the 26% haste dragonborn... The Vel combo's do the most damage.. The Vel+Wurmslayer does the most by far.
The offhand can and often will hit for 1dmg, has no level based damage bonus (only the str bonus with at 255str makes about a 7% differance overall). Because of this, most of your damage comes from the primary hand.. 40% haste applied to the primary hand more then makes up for the small loss in offhand damage. The speed increase to the offhand reduces that loss...
Before you say, just get a RBB or something, try it.. I have been offering 65kp+my fungi tunic for two weeks with no takers so that I could test that as well.
A great bonus is the AC I can get when I use the Vel.
I have the items, I run the logs, I fight the hard fights.. You, my friend, just post uninformed junk.
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This website tends to attract the real Crap of EQ. Get a clue guys, the 53 wars logs prove it all. This is a haste item, simple as that, not worth 1249821918427k pp, It's also not a POS, especially for how easy it is for ANY guild that could seriously consider doing giant faction. It's a situational freakin weapon. Things like soloing with your warrior, Getting higher damage output on your Hybrid, ( think about Black Rock with this in Secondary for an SK) . Things like that, it makes your primary hit more times in a row, but it has a crap ratio of it's own, thus taunt, which is in MOST cases DPS ( in some cases proc, remember the tash sword?)Is lessened for Duel wielding classes, in most cases.
Why is that so hard to see for so many of you. Why are there so many idiots, posting things on who gets what item from a raid, and which item sucks, followed by
Level 20-50 <insert class here>
AS IF YOU WILL EVER SEE ONE.
I can only hope that I meet one of you, in the FP arena if/when I die : ( on our guild's next North wing raid) so that I can beat you senseless with my 58 monk.
Before you even think of flaming ask your gm a couple of things.
1. How is taunt calculated( not HATE TAUNT)
2. How is haste on an Item calculated ( ALL haste items that don't proc go up in level,before reaching their respective max haste.Abashi said so himself hence the moronic controversey of the FBSS)
3. What is the Max % of Haste you can have at one time, and the LOWEST delay a weapon can Have.
If that doesn't help on enlightment, call customer service, explain your dilemma, than ask them to cancel your account, stating your reason as you are to stupid to play computer games involving basic arithematic, then go back to humping your pillow.
Why is that so hard to see for so many of you. Why are there so many idiots, posting things on who gets what item from a raid, and which item sucks, followed by
Level 20-50 <insert class here>
AS IF YOU WILL EVER SEE ONE.
I can only hope that I meet one of you, in the FP arena if/when I die : ( on our guild's next North wing raid) so that I can beat you senseless with my 58 monk.
Before you even think of flaming ask your gm a couple of things.
1. How is taunt calculated( not HATE TAUNT)
2. How is haste on an Item calculated ( ALL haste items that don't proc go up in level,before reaching their respective max haste.Abashi said so himself hence the moronic controversey of the FBSS)
3. What is the Max % of Haste you can have at one time, and the LOWEST delay a weapon can Have.
If that doesn't help on enlightment, call customer service, explain your dilemma, than ask them to cancel your account, stating your reason as you are to stupid to play computer games involving basic arithematic, then go back to humping your pillow.
Anonymous
( think about Black Rock with this in Secondary for an SK)
Too bad SKs cant duel wield.
Too bad SKs cant duel wield.
Anonymous
well said bro, well said
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Anonymous
'Nuff said, i agree with that 110%
Anonymous
I dont know what these people are saying about it procing. I do know that it was changed in the patch and now 40% haste you get permanently , not a proc just an effect as if wearing a 40% haste belt. Also I know that because of this change itr is worth mor. I just got one lastnight and auctioned it for about an hour in Dreadlands just to see what kind of offers i could get yet i did not trade it, here are some offers I got....
1. Lamentation + 2kpp
2. Jade mace +3k pp
3. Zealot's Incarnadine Sword
4. Felhammer ( not a good offer compared to others ) heh
5. Bloodpoint ( would have to add about 2k to deal )
I think this weapon is pretty damn good and deserves more than the listed price because of the effect being changed. As of now im keeping it, unless i really need something in an offer i get.
Tabias Sunderfury
51 Warrior , Innoruuk
1. Lamentation + 2kpp
2. Jade mace +3k pp
3. Zealot's Incarnadine Sword
4. Felhammer ( not a good offer compared to others ) heh
5. Bloodpoint ( would have to add about 2k to deal )
I think this weapon is pretty damn good and deserves more than the listed price because of the effect being changed. As of now im keeping it, unless i really need something in an offer i get.
Tabias Sunderfury
51 Warrior , Innoruuk
Anonymous
With this blade in my off hand, I could dump my Sash of the Dragon Born. My first logs shows that I do about 3dmg/sec more with Jade Mace/Velium Swiftblade then I did with Dual Jade Maces and the sash. Also my taunt, beg, kick, and disarm all refresh much faster, and I have found it much easier to keep agro on me when using my defensive discipline(all of those things add aggro and should be used when you tank). Finally, I could replace my 2ac Sash with a 12AC 8Stamina 5Charisma 5MR 10HP guardian girdle... (I actually gain 46hp, and 14 AC from this belt over the shash)...
All of that plus it is rare and looks great. I have had a few 20+kp offers in the past few days.. I'm sorry, I will never sell it though, after seeing what it can do for me, this item has become priceless to me.
All of that plus it is rare and looks great. I have had a few 20+kp offers in the past few days.. I'm sorry, I will never sell it though, after seeing what it can do for me, this item has become priceless to me.
Anonymous
Well I have one and:
1. Haste is now Permanent (Hope this does not change)
2. 1% Haste / Level seems about right
3. Can use in off hand to speed primary hand
4. Found in KD near the arena (thats where I got mine). Seems to be at least a very uncommon drop, as I have been there plenty and only seen two of these drop.
5. Does indeed have a very stylish katana look
At 50th the weapon will be 5/12, so Lammy 9/19 is still better, but this thing also speeds up your primary hand, making your 9/18 jade mace a sick 9/10 or turn a CSS into an insane 12/12. (10 is the fastest possible delay) So use the swiftblade when you get high enough level to make it pay off.
If you are grouped with a chanter, you will need to find a even slower high damage weapon, to take advantage of all that speed. 60% speed will make a Wurmslayer 25/16. That is pretty damn good.
1. Haste is now Permanent (Hope this does not change)
2. 1% Haste / Level seems about right
3. Can use in off hand to speed primary hand
4. Found in KD near the arena (thats where I got mine). Seems to be at least a very uncommon drop, as I have been there plenty and only seen two of these drop.
5. Does indeed have a very stylish katana look
At 50th the weapon will be 5/12, so Lammy 9/19 is still better, but this thing also speeds up your primary hand, making your 9/18 jade mace a sick 9/10 or turn a CSS into an insane 12/12. (10 is the fastest possible delay) So use the swiftblade when you get high enough level to make it pay off.
If you are grouped with a chanter, you will need to find a even slower high damage weapon, to take advantage of all that speed. 60% speed will make a Wurmslayer 25/16. That is pretty damn good.
Anonymous
Haste is not a direct decrease in delay. It is an increase in attacks over time...
60% haste gives you 60% more attacks for a period of time. Example: if you normally attacked 100 times in 3 minutes, you would attack 160 times in the same 3 minutes under 60% haste.
A Wurmslayer would be acting as though it were 25 delay at 60% haste.
At 100% haste, you attack twice as often per unit time, so it would be 200 attacks in our example. Here, a Wurmslayer would act as though it were 20 delay.
Haste is capped at 60% total before level 51. meaning that no matter what class you are, the highest combined spell+item haste you can have for levels 1-50 is 60%...
For levels 51-60, haste is capped at 100% for hybrids, and 104% for pure melee.
60% haste gives you 60% more attacks for a period of time. Example: if you normally attacked 100 times in 3 minutes, you would attack 160 times in the same 3 minutes under 60% haste.
A Wurmslayer would be acting as though it were 25 delay at 60% haste.
At 100% haste, you attack twice as often per unit time, so it would be 200 attacks in our example. Here, a Wurmslayer would act as though it were 20 delay.
Haste is capped at 60% total before level 51. meaning that no matter what class you are, the highest combined spell+item haste you can have for levels 1-50 is 60%...
For levels 51-60, haste is capped at 100% for hybrids, and 104% for pure melee.
Anonymous
I just got one of these the other night... and holy ****. The haste is automatic when equipped (like Mith 2hander) but it's around 40% or so IT IS NOT A PROC!!! I used to use a Jade Mace in mainhand and Lamentation in offhand, but I notice a huge difference with it replacing the Lamentation. Needless to say this freed up about 26kpp for me (Selling Lam and FBSS) and will allow me to throw an AC belt on. As for the damage... it turns into about a 7/13 or so weapon for lvl 50 Warrior and the way offhand weaps are, I get more dmg using it cause Mainhand swings helluvalot faster and Lammy would normally hit low anyways. So I definately give teh thumbs up.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 08 2001 at 8:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I just got one of these today, and when compared to a silver swiftblade (same delay) it was twice as fast without the proc! and I havent seen it proc at all so...
Anonymous
I owned this weapon for about a week, and I can say I was unhappy with it. The proc may be like a 50% haste but it still pumped out very little dmg. I even tried it with a wurmslayer. Its not permanant haste. Have tested the weapon, it worked fine for myself (lvl 51), also worked for a 45, but did not work for a 31. It seems to have little or no value due to it having truly horrible dmg dly... I wouldn't buy for more than 2k, also, the proc only lasts 15 seconds, stacks with bard songs + aug(it may overwrite aug) but doesn't stack with enc quickness line of hastes.
Rivera Bladestrike
51 Warrior
Rivera Bladestrike
51 Warrior
9 posts
rather this WAS a proc, as of the patch on Mar 27th seemed to break it so it doesn't proc anymore
Anonymous
Yep same here....I like this weapon because better this haste than no haste ;) ..proced 3-4 times per fight....
Not one proc since last patch here too....
Hope my bugreport to verant helps...
Not one proc since last patch here too....
Hope my bugreport to verant helps...
Anonymous
this looks like it changed to a perm effect. Not sure of the haste. But tested it with a RBG and without, got about the same amount of hits in one min. Was a druid and me testing it on a freinds tank. Neither of us being much of the melee type. SO we could be wrong. Maybe someone can clarify if this is perm now.
meneldil
57 mage Dirnal
meneldil
57 mage Dirnal
Anonymous
Does it Proc at?
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