Last trip to the Arena in Kael we got a couple of these on the same night. They both dropped from the veterans that spawn around the back of the arena. There pretty rare, but I think there on the loot table of pretty much all the giants in the arena.
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And the do wield them so you know if a giant has one.
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Posted:Jul 08 2002 at 9:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol i know it would deal virtually no dmg a strike prolly 20dmg a hit but if u could duel wield these LOL that would be some wicked speed and yes i know haste doesn't stack but still besides this friing sword i frucken awesome lookin. Looks like a damn katana /drool
hehe thats why I originally wanted it (saw it on some person in the PoK), but now that I looked it up... /double drool .. I am definatly putting this on my wish list!
i would love to duel this with my lammy...i would drop one of them for this anyday, so if u wanna trade it send me a tell on the nameless server and i will trade one of my lammy's for this.. 1% haster for each lvl though, but by the time i get this beaut i will be 40 so i will get full haste=)
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Posted:Jul 08 2002 at 8:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what are you talking about u get haste no matter what lvl. It doesn't go up or down. Its a permanent effect. Besides a Lammy is a 3-4k sword on our server. And i have been buying them low to as low as 2k no joke. And this puppy goes fer 8-10k......
hehe, believe me or not, most no one on my server believes me but, there are 2 versions of this weapon, and from the story i was told when i got mine its like this.
If you look at a VSB right now it wiss say something to the point of "Effect:Haste (40%)" not sure on the 40%, but as with this screenshot and the one i have it is "Effect:Haste" aka haste equals ur lvl, i watched the lvl 55 warrior who gave it to me use it and i swear it was like watching a drummer, but also as i was told this miracle haste item was nerfed and is now at a flat percentage, no one believes me except for the few who have brought me a VSB and put it up in the trade window next to mine.
Though as a lvl 25 warrior i dont have too much use for this when i hit 30 it will be an asset to me, wheeee
now i expect to see lots of flames, but i know it to be true because ive used this thing at level 5 and wondered why i had it, then used it at 25 and noticed a big difference
Regardless of how often it drops, or how bad 5 24 dmg dly is, few people seem to realize the true point of this weapon. This weapon features 40% haste, which is one of the best you will find. The catch is, that it is a weapon, therefore it takes up one of your slots for dual wielding. Rather than seeing it as another weapon, just see it as a major boost for your primary hand. I use this with frostbringer, and I am very impressed with the damage output. This will beat any damage output in the famous trio: lamentation, wurmslayer, and centi ls, in the long run. It pairs up very well with wurmslayer because of the wurm's high damage and slow delay. It is the equivalent of about a 25 23 at its max haste. Anyways, for a pvp server especially, weapons are non lootable, and this haste is the best you can find unless you have the money or luck to inherit a cloak of flames, or something of that stature. It beats the crap out of SCHW and FBSS haste, I can say that much right now.
Why is it that people think you are going to drop the price so they can have this weapon. I have one and I am a mage I cant use it. I am selling it for 10k on Erolissi Marr server. Everybody says it sucks, it is no good, it only sells for 4k. Well guess what if you are on E-Marr and you really want this weapon, well 10k it is yours. Also peeps, quite trying to under sell this weapon, IT IS A FREAKING RARE DROP.
Cidco Bonecrusher Erolissi Marr 53 Elementalist Dragons of Hope
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Posted:May 29 2002 at 10:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I dont care what u say this weapon well.....sucks! Well the haste is sweet but dmg and dly are just horrible. even though if u make your other weapon go faster (if war rng or bard) 1hs is usually fast enough anyways. Besides if u have enough money to buy this thing at the price they usually sell it get a lammy instead its allready FAST!
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Posted:Jun 02 2002 at 10:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) THIS IS A PERM HASTE SO IF YOU PUT LIKE A 50 DELAY 30 DAMAGE WEPOND IN YOUR OTHER HAND YOU GET THAT DELAY ON THAT TO. I DONT REALLY CARE WHAT YOU THINK!
Yea I guess 41% (or whatever high haste) this has is worthless to you, this hastes your BOW ALSO.
I like it, throw in offhand, and lupine mainhand, and I am satisfied with the major speed increase. Who cares if YOU think it sucks, plenty of others are satisfied with it.
this is 36% haste. how haste items work is, if you wear a haste item it will go up 1% haste per level until it reaches its max haste (a FBSS on a level 12 will only be 12% haste until you reach level 21 when it reaches its max haste of 21%, then it won't go any higher, the swiftblade will keep going up until you reach level 36)
Hey guys whats up, I just got this great weapon and its my new best friend. I think im in love seriously. I have a bit of a problemo though, I dont know what would be the best pair for it. Im currently level 42 and I have a Lupine dagger and this Velium Swiftblade right now, but i was wondering if any other items worth equal or less than Lupine would go better with this VSB. Thanks for any responses i really appreciate it.
P.S. - Which slot should the VSB be in with Lupine, or really any others yall suggest?
BTW there was an extensive study done at the ranger glade boards on your topic. Take a look at this... stolen off The Ranger's Glade Boards:
Some calculations (using Copeland's Weapon Analyzer) with Velium Swiftblade in offhand and the following weapons in mainhand. Numbers are in damage/minute, assume 150 strength and maxed skill in 1HS, Double Attack and Dual Wield for the given level. The numbers also assume a 60% hit rate, and typical damage curve when fighting mobs about 3-5 levels below yours.
Hmm.. Well my warrior has this weapon and I have been experimenting with it trying different combinations. First I tried using a wurmy with it. Lots of damage but not as fast as you would think it to be. I found that I took alot of punishment inbetween swings. Next I tried a Lamentation in main hand with it. Very fast swings but low damage strikes, it was as if I never stopped swinging. Finally I used a warsword in the main hand with this weapon, I think I have finally found a mate for the Velium Swiftblade. The Exquisite Velium Warsword 12 21. Swings as fast as the Lammy but double the damage its a nice combo. Anyways without alla the double talk and numbers or surveys. I like this combination and plan on using it until I can afford better belted or back haste and a frostbringer. Everyone says use it with a high damage weapon in the OFF hand slot. But I disagree.. I use it as offhand, and swing the warsword in the main hand. I tried it the other way and it wasn't as good.
Got this last night during a kael raid. We were camped at the left of the arena just pulling guards/troopers/legos/adjuncts, puller spotted a trooper or lego with a sword and this was the result. Its about the 10th raid I've been on and its the first one I've seen so there pretty rare I guess
I have a silvery belt supposably 26% haste , I use heavy warsword 12 23 in main and LOEE is secondary. Would this wep in secondary with LOEE in main be better. Will the haste make up for the damage loss on seconday?
I picked one of these up the other day half ways by accident. It was cheap, looked slick, and was something different to try, so I figured why not. Worst case is I just resell it for what I paid, or somewhere close to what I paid. Well, I won't be selling this anytime soon. I've tried several combos now, and this blade along with a Long Sword of Ethereal Energy in my primary does more damage than any other weapon combo I've been able to achieve. When I get grouped with an enchanter or shaman, I switch out the LSoEE for my Wurmslayer to increase my damage output just a tad more. I know there are better combos out there, but you have to keep in mind what people have, or are able to get ahold of...bear that in mind before anyone goes spouting off about how this combo is horrible. I don't know from numbers, I don't parse anything I do, all I know is that this combo of LSoEE and VSB works extremely well for me, and I'll not likely be giving it up any time soon. It was well worth the 5k I spent, especially considering I wasn't entirely sure what I was purchasing.
Wow I remember posting this weapon back once I was 40. Heheh I still got it. I retired the good ol fathful wurmmy and got a flinted dagger 5 28 . yea the stats suck. But
625dd 4 times a fight solo'n 155 dex with dis sword. nice "or be a smart ranger and get 55+ shammy dex str buffs "
In group with shammy buffs chanter haste bard song jammin. 4-12 times depending on hp of the mob. I dont want to take agro it just happens, I dont want to shame monks or wars, but shi!happens. Feel free to argue about haste caps, ratio , what class is the best at tanking.. bla bla bla
Now. on highend raids this weapon helps rangers out with bow. its good .. its fast and it helps haste in ALL forms. A ranger needs to be smart, example: Plane Raids with mini or main boss's. keep the agro on the tank. Kick back and shoot them up. with this and all em other haste "spell song" it shines, not to mention a fleeting quiver full of summoned arrows and a 30 40 bow. 51 rangers gets double damage and crits. "crys I dont have trueshot"
Ill let your mind wonder.
Applejuce Tolanheart 53rd Pathfinder Seekers of Lore Inny server
Primary hand wpns damage and delay both come into account... damage+damage modifer (based on level of melee)... Wpn swings once every time your wpn delay time runs through.
Off hand wpn... works on a skill based system... your off hand has a skill check that determines if it swings every time your off hand wpns delay time runs through.
The only difference between the two is that you off hand has a skill check to swing or not swing.
Add in double attack /or tripple attack and that is where your confusing numbers come into play.
What this means with this wpn is YES you will get significantly less damage from your off hand...AND it will swing significantly less.
BUT for those of you who have done your math (Pars. your damn logs and do it yourself...don't belive the brainless twits that abound in everquest.) You will find that the extra main hand swings MORE then compensate for the minor loss in off hand swings untill you reach 50+. At which point your off hand skill starts to do a more significant portion of your melee damage.
At this point you should get a new haste item, or contiune using your wurm. for soloing.
Also...if you consider the haste formula (100/(haste+100)*delay=hasted delay
You will find that using this 40% in combination with ench, haste for a great deal of your fighting giving you 100% haste, using a low delay wpn (in actuallity anything 26 delay or less) and you will have reached the delay Cap for wpns with is 13...no wpn can go below 13 delay with haste.
So it's pointless to sacrafice your off hand with this wpn when it's haste is basically being voided if you group with any hasting member.
I cant say for sure but i cant imagine weapons being unable to go below 13dly... I can think of one off the top of my head with a base dly below 12, the staff of the morning dew (or something to the effect there-of) 4/12 10sta 25int 10svAll 1hb, drops from sleeper's tomb
What are monk epic fists before haste? just wondering i thought they were 9/13 and the haste from the epic brings it down to 9/10... Oh well whatvr im not a monk :)
Thats the entire point. You use it in conjuction with a high damage high delay weapon (wurmslayer for example) Wurmy + This = SERIOUS damage. I've seen warriors using this combo into the mid 50's just because of the damage output they can produce.
"...and you will have reached the delay Cap for wpns with is 13...no wpn can go below 13 delay with haste."
Wow.. that really sucks then for all those people getting low delay weapons in Veeshan's Peak and Sleepers. You might want to reconsider this postion ;)
Heheheh..nice weapon would ye sell it?*grins*Ne`er mind heheh I already bought*points to Applejuce*Woot.
Ok folks here`s the deal,just so you know I am a 55th level Ranger on Innoruuk...so I am no newbie.(Also have a 50th level Secondary)I bought this sword last night an my wife and I proceeded to go to Scarlet Desert to give it a little test.Heres my weapons and this was with no Haste spells on me [PRIM:Velium Swiftblade OFF:Revultant Whip]
Whip is 5/14 sword is 5/24 with a 40% Haste to all melee attacks.End Result:Battle Spam from "Others Hits" caused my wife to go LD.
And on top of that I have a 20/30 bow with a 35%Hasted Quiver...hehehe,my Ranged button pops up every second.
Your full of it! I let my new ranger friend use the vswiftblade at lvl 1, Now he is lvl 25, he currently has 10 22 warsword as primary and this off hand. It works at lvl 1. Stacks with Songs and Spells, Also haste's Bow delay. Once you get dual weild put this to use. Sure you can have weapons that proc or hard hitting wurmslayer. Its worth it to have this haste sword.
So mr warrior try using it without your CoF, try it alone, try it with your bow, try it with a haste spell. If you like it with proc'n weapons use it, it shines both ways. Im goina keep it tell i get my epic's. Ill still use it in primary with the swiftwind "once i get it"
Ive just traded for this weapon to see how good it really is.I currently have a CoF 36% haste.I'm using a Frostbringer in Primary and tried the swiftblade in secondary.From what ive seen so far theres no change in the speed of attacks so im thinking the swiftblade is 36% haste.Ive also tried with the wurmy in primary and again theres not much if any, change that ive seen.I think the weapon is good if it is 36% haste mainly because theres not many items out there that is of high haste and at alot cheaper price than the other high end haste items.I know if i didnt hav a CoF i'd have the swiftblade in my Secondary always, prefering to lose a weapon slot that has not very good stats 5/24 but has 36% haste if it does have that much).That way i could get a better belt, shoulders or any other slot that does give out Haste.Sorry for this long story ive what ive found but better doing it this way than saying "This weapon is crap except for the haste". 10/10 for haste 2/10 for a weapon. P.s.Also i beleave the Haste starts working at Lvl 35
Dargrim Grudgebearer Lvl 47 Dorf War Sol Ro server
If you already have a CoF, then you will not be able to tell what the haste in the swiftblade is because you cannot combine item haste. Try removing the CoF and use the swiftblade and you should see if there is a difference in your haste.
Did a raid with the guild and a few others guild's in BW. I think the name was Slixin Klex Or the Main Boss. Anyways I was using the VSB and Wyrmslayer, "bad" it happend pretty quick, what i do remember is:
You hit Slixin Klex for 97 damage You hit Slixin Klex for 93 damage You hit Slixen Klex for 17 damage You hit Slixen Klex 13 damage You kick Slixen Klex for 12 damage you get hit for 583 damage you get hit for 542 damage you get hit for 394 damage you get hit for 503 damage. You have been slain by Slixen Klex Loading Please wait...... Ummm word to the wise, let the pets and casters do there part, and let the mob get a good taunt on a pet. Use you bow. no shame on ranged attacks. I missed out on a chance to roll for some good loot. But the other guild member got his epic something. BTW this combo works well is some situations, bad in others. Out of 12+ melee class's I and a few others kicked the bucket. Thank god there was some cleric's with there epic there. it was fun while it lasted. Well worth the gobs of cold hard cash i put in for this weapon. Ill keep it, and once i hit lvl 50 ill try it with the Steel hilted Flint Dagger 5 28 proc 625dd.
Applejuce Tolanheart 48th Ranger Seekers Of Lore Inny Server
~~~butcha gotta think... hes gotta wait for rez effects to wear off so he can move around and such... maybe he just didnt get rezzed and moving around again before 6 mins 30 seconds or whatever time you have to loot a corpse was up... or maybe you are right and his guild does just suck =p~~~