Velium Swiftblade  

 

editted - ah sorry DMG BONUS depends on the individual player using/looking at it.


on a different note, this is one of the cheapest 36% hastes you can get! (IF you can spare the offhand and would rather not sacrifice a gear slot for an item with haste but little stats)

Edited, Mon Oct 24 16:53:30 2005

Dropped it.

Dropped for me tonight from Veteren Surlren.

Keryn - 62 monk
Aemon - 62 shaman

Prexus

this would be good if it went in range slot but nope

I found that the best use of this weapon is for a ranger. A ranger can use this while bow kiting to give him 36% haste. This weapon is great to use until a ranger gets his epic (Swiftwind 40% haste)

Where in Kael does this thing drop?

For the fashion-minded, this is a spiffy weapon, looks like a katana or wakasashi

Do SCHW actually stack with the velium swiftblade?

forgot to mention this with bows.. i have a shissar bow, 20/35, this makes it 20/23... thats a nice bow...

The haste value of this weapon is 36% (CoF haste) which makes it roughly a 5/17 or 5/18 weapon. If you have haste available in another slot, I'd suggest dumping this and pick up a better damaging weapon.

I've read every post there is on this item, and I notice one thing: either you love it or hate it.

I personally bought this for 1500pp for my warrior, after I tried trading 4k worth of stuff for SCHW. I was shocked to find that it was 36% (or 40%) haste for such a cheap item. I hesitated to buy it at first because of the stats, but now I don't regret it.

It really depends on your style of play if you use it or not. I'll most likely keep this for a long time. You have to admit, not many people will ever see a haste item this high without getting lucky on a CoF roll. It definitely (for me) makes up for the weakness of the weapon, especially in the secondary range.

This is probably the *most* under-rated haste item in the game. Test it out, you can get it fairly cheap these days.

(Who knows, if it becomes popular, the price may skyrocket!)

The damage/delay ratio on this weapon is 5/17 at 40% haste. So with Bard and/or chanter haste you could get to about 150% haste total with the highest lvl hastes for those two particular classes. Making this 5/9(1.8) or 5/10(2.0) roughly. Better than a Jade Mace at 9/18(2.0) or just roughly just as good, but a lot faster, so that lack of damage makes this an uber taunter and allows more ticks for secondary hand to hit as well. IMO this is well worth the cash you pay for it, on Xev they go for 2k, just a little bit higher than what Jade Mace goes for these days, sometimes the same price. But definately nice at any lvl. Much better than I thought before I calculated the dmg/dly ratio.

36% Haste according to Magelo

Regardless of how often it drops, or how bad 5 24 dmg dly is, few people seem to realize the true point of this weapon. This weapon features 40% haste, which is one of the best you will find. The catch is, that it is a weapon, therefore it takes up one of your slots for dual wielding. Rather than seeing it as another weapon, just see it as a major boost for your primary hand. I use this with frostbringer, and I am very impressed with the damage output. This will beat any damage output in the famous trio: lamentation, wurmslayer, and centi ls, in the long run. It pairs up very well with wurmslayer because of the wurm's high damage and slow delay. It is the equivalent of about a 25 23 at its max haste. Anyways, for a pvp server especially, weapons are non lootable, and this haste is the best you can find unless you have the money or luck to inherit a cloak of flames, or something of that stature. It beats the crap out of SCHW and FBSS haste, I can say that much right now.

Hmm.. Well my warrior has this weapon and I have been experimenting with it trying different combinations. First I tried using a wurmy with it. Lots of damage but not as fast as you would think it to be. I found that I took alot of punishment inbetween swings. Next I tried a Lamentation in main hand with it. Very fast swings but low damage strikes, it was as if I never stopped swinging. Finally I used a warsword in the main hand with this weapon, I think I have finally found a mate for the Velium Swiftblade. The Exquisite Velium Warsword 12 21. Swings as fast as the Lammy but double the damage its a nice combo. Anyways without alla the double talk and numbers or surveys. I like this combination and plan on using it until I can afford better belted or back haste and a frostbringer. Everyone says use it with a high damage weapon in the OFF hand slot. But I disagree.. I use it as offhand, and swing the warsword in the main hand. I tried it the other way and it wasn't as good.

Zan
Vallon Zek

this sword is so cool, if there could be ninjas, this would be the sword

I have a silvery belt supposably 26% haste , I use heavy warsword 12 23 in main and LOEE is secondary. Would this wep in secondary with LOEE in main be better. Will the haste make up for the damage loss on seconday?

Chadow
57 ranger
still epicless

Wow I remember posting this weapon back once I was 40. Heheh I still got it. I retired the good ol fathful wurmmy and got a flinted dagger 5 28 . yea the stats suck. But

625dd 4 times a fight solo'n
155 dex with dis sword. nice
"or be a smart ranger and get 55+ shammy dex str buffs "

In group with shammy buffs chanter haste bard song jammin. 4-12 times depending on hp of the mob. I dont want to take agro it just happens, I dont want to shame monks or wars, but shi!happens. Feel free to argue about haste caps, ratio , what class is the best at tanking.. bla bla bla

Now. on highend raids this weapon helps rangers out with bow. its good .. its fast and it helps haste in ALL forms. A ranger needs to be smart, example: Plane Raids with mini or main boss's. keep the agro on the tank. Kick back and shoot them up. with this and all em other haste "spell song" it shines, not to mention a fleeting quiver full of summoned arrows and a 30 40 bow. 51 rangers gets double damage and crits. "crys I dont have trueshot"

Ill let your mind wonder.


Applejuce Tolanheart
53rd Pathfinder
Seekers of Lore
Inny server

Edited, Wed Feb 6 05:19:42 2002

Honestly I wonder who still spouts this bs.

Primary hand wpns damage and delay both come into account... damage+damage modifer (based on level of melee)... Wpn swings once every time your wpn delay time runs through.

Off hand wpn... works on a skill based system... your off hand has a skill check that determines if it swings every time your off hand wpns delay time runs through.

The only difference between the two is that you off hand has a skill check to swing or not swing.

Add in double attack /or tripple attack and that is where your confusing numbers come into play.

What this means with this wpn is YES you will get significantly less damage from your off hand...AND it will swing significantly less.

BUT for those of you who have done your math (Pars. your damn logs and do it yourself...don't belive the brainless twits that abound in everquest.) You will find that the extra main hand swings MORE then compensate for the minor loss in off hand swings untill you reach 50+. At which point your off hand skill starts to do a more significant portion of your melee damage.

At this point you should get a new haste item, or contiune using your wurm. for soloing.

Also...if you consider the haste formula
(100/(haste+100)*delay=hasted delay

You will find that using this 40% in combination with ench, haste for a great deal of your fighting giving you 100% haste, using a low delay wpn (in actuallity anything 26 delay or less) and you will have reached the delay Cap for wpns with is 13...no wpn can go below 13 delay with haste.

So it's pointless to sacrafice your off hand with this wpn when it's haste is basically being voided if you group with any hasting member.

Your full of it! I let my new ranger friend use the vswiftblade at lvl 1, Now he is lvl 25, he currently has 10 22 warsword as primary and this off hand. It works at lvl 1. Stacks with Songs and Spells, Also haste's Bow delay. Once you get dual weild put this to use. Sure you can have weapons that proc or hard hitting wurmslayer. Its worth it to have this haste sword.

So mr warrior try using it without your CoF, try it alone, try it with your bow, try it with a haste spell. If you like it with proc'n weapons use it, it shines both ways. Im goina keep it tell i get my epic's. Ill still use it in primary with the swiftwind "once i get it"


50 ranger
40 war

they all got the VSB. cause it rocks!

Did a raid with the guild and a few others guild's in BW. I think the name was Slixin Klex Or the Main Boss. Anyways I was using the VSB and Wyrmslayer, "bad" it happend pretty quick, what i do remember is:

You hit Slixin Klex for 97 damage
You hit Slixin Klex for 93 damage
You hit Slixen Klex for 17 damage
You hit Slixen Klex 13 damage
You kick Slixen Klex for 12 damage
you get hit for 583 damage
you get hit for 542 damage
you get hit for 394 damage
you get hit for 503 damage.
You have been slain by Slixen Klex
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Ummm word to the wise, let the pets and casters do there part, and let the mob get a good taunt on a pet. Use you bow. no shame on ranged attacks. I missed out on a chance to roll for some good loot. But the other guild member got his epic something. BTW this combo works well is some situations, bad in others. Out of 12+ melee class's I and a few others kicked the bucket. Thank god there was some cleric's with there epic there. it was fun while it lasted. Well worth the gobs of cold hard cash i put in for this weapon. Ill keep it, and once i hit lvl 50 ill try it with the Steel hilted Flint Dagger 5 28 proc 625dd.

Applejuce Tolanheart
48th Ranger
Seekers Of Lore
Inny Server

I was thinking a lot about whether or not to procure this weapon. As it seems, it is formidable beyond doubt. But I have my reservations. I am a rogue of 41ish and I would like to see the day when this weapon falls in my hands. However, I was thinking whether this weapon would be worth sacrificing the offhand damage for more BS and main hand damage. From what I can guess, it will only be effective if I can get something powerful like a small dragonbone shard to couple with this thing. But that weapon by itself is expensive and rare. If there is any high level rogue that can ascertain the facts about this weapon's viability for our class, please do post a reply.