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Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn  

Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 34
DMG: 20 Dmg Bonus: 26
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
MANA: +100
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:1H Slashing
Merchant Value:26 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Updated By:Cordite
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
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Average Price: 99,000pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 60

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Great Secondary 1 HS for Bards
# Oct 17 2003 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
This weapon is one of the better weapons available to non-twink 50+ bards and usually sells for less than 5k. I think this blade secondary and a defenders lightblade (22/34), which can usually be bought for less than 1k, primary would be quite the damage producing combo. All for under 6k. That is unless you have already saved up a nest egg and bought a nice one handed drum. Which in that case, the best damage is done twisting DoTs with your drum and having a nice one handed weapon in the other hand. Correct me if I am wrong, but hopefully this post finds use to someone.
RE: Great Secondary 1 HS for Bards
# Oct 18 2003 at 11:45 AM Rating: Excellent
3,705 posts
check out the platinum plated re'stek. even better ratio, and pretty cheap in the bazaar. Drop from veksar, and not real tough to get.
Xaanru's stuff
I use it
# Sep 03 2003 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
20 posts
I am A Level 40 Druid on Xev, I had been using the Centi Warhammer until lvl 35, and amassed 1HB of 143, I was then advised to work on 1HS, as that is my Epic. At the time (lvl 35) my 1HS was only 15. I set about collecting plat in hopes of buying a nice scimitar to work on my 1HS, In DS I ran into a warrior who had just bought the scimitar, he did not like it and wanted something "BADDER" I liked the damage amount it did and the additional 100 mana points sure could not hurt so i asked how much he would sell it for, he told me 1500 Plat, but in the end i got it for 1400 plat (i had to kill allot of goblins). So now i religiously use this scimitar, I can hit for a max of 51 with it, and though it is slow it is very nice. In the last 5 levels my 1HS has gone from 15 to 129, and climbing.

Rootrot Treelynk
<Planar Sauce Inc>
Druid of the 40th Season
(trying to be a Druidic Ranger hahaha)
RE: I use it
# Sep 12 2003 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
108 posts
I had been using the Centi Warhammer until lvl 35, and amassed 1HB of 143, I was then advised to work on 1HS, as that is my Epic

lol druids dont melee =)
RE: I use it
# Oct 10 2011 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
SphiriahSphinx wrote:
I had been using the Centi Warhammer until lvl 35, and amassed 1HB of 143, I was then advised to work on 1HS, as that is my Epic

lol druids dont melee =)


Amazing how naive some people were back then.

RE: I use it
# Sep 13 2003 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
20 posts
lol druids dont melee =)

I learned that. hehe, This is my first toon and first time playing EQ, so I had allot to learn.

In a group My druid can melee almost as well as a lvl 40 ranger I can hit from 2 to 50 pnts damage, but, that is only in a group where I am not taking aggro and being hammered on. solo I have to either Root it and Rot it, or Kite it.

hehe, I don't like meleeing with him anymore would rather DoT it and rot it hehehe.

Edited, Sat Sep 13 11:53:40 2003
# Aug 18 2003 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
As a Druid, I never hit anything. I think the time spent whacking on something is better spent medding. I just slap a free dot on it and med away.

If this thing has the stats to support it in favor of something I'm currently using (like the Prelate's Lantern), then I'll buy it, but for use as an actual weapon? Not on your life.
Nairn NiteRaven
60 Half Elf Karana Druid
RE: Hmmm...
# Sep 01 2003 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
I use this with my lvl 27 Druid and he hits for 50. True he may not always hit 50, but he does probably average in the low-mid 40's. It is a great weapon if you got some good healers to back you up.

Bobek Kebob
27 Half Elf Tunare Druid
Maelin Starpyre
Excellent Off-hand.
# Jul 14 2003 at 1:50 AM Rating: Decent
10 posts
As a 59 bard, I must say that this is one of the very best pre-planar off-hand weapons I've seen in the game. I use a Troubadour's Mace in my first hand and I can pretty easily reach a 105% haste (and yes, it is possible for bards) for some real damage grinding.

I took out Wuoshi with 3 friends, and that dragon is a complete wuzzy. Just have a bard pump MR/PR, haste for the tanks and mana for the casters, a decent tank, a healer (druid will do just fine) and a mage or wizard. You might even be able to do this without a real tank if you have a mage with a good pet, though I haven't tried this.
# Feb 06 2003 at 11:42 PM Rating: Default
9 posts
You saw a 65 enchanter solo Woushi a levl 65+ dragon that can cast spells and hits for over 500 damage when he attacks?.... hmmmmm somethings not right there either your lying, drunk, high, or just a ******(no offense).

Baron Golyen Gyon
65th druid
Keepers of the Faith
RE: WHAT?!!!!
# Feb 07 2003 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
234 posts
An Enchanter did solo and kill Wuoshi (though not successfully on the first try). Dire Charm is a very good spell.
RE: WHAT?!!!!
# Mar 12 2003 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
34 posts
From what I hear, the chanter (lvl 65) used lvl 62/64 charm (not sure which one it was, but i'd place my bets on the lvl 64 spell) to charm rolandal (another dragon, lvl 60) and sicced it on Wuoshi. 3rd try, charm lasted long enough that Wuoshi died.

Dire charm only works on mobs under 46 i believe, but the 62/64 charms should last a while. However, if charm breaks early, you're less than a puddle of goo on the ground, the dragons can summon you instantly and turn you into pudding.
RE: WHAT?!!!!
# May 22 2003 at 10:09 AM Rating: Excellent
658 posts
Yes, this is correct. Command of Druzzil, the 64 charm, is the spell.

After "they" found out about this, Rolandal became flagged as uncharmable.
RE: WHAT?!!!!
# Jul 03 2003 at 11:49 PM Rating: Default
720 posts
um i have killed ALOOOOOOOTTTT of mobs with 2 friends the lsit goes as follows me tanking usually druid healing me while crit blasting....

a 65 chanter
a 57 warrior
and a 65 druid...

woushi done..
KD done...
Grim HP done...
TM in PoN done...
Croc in PoN done...

wow the list goes on... chanter pet buff solos the **** out of mobs... u got no idea the powah o a 65 chanter... its amazing... an a druid doing cheals on it, wow its amazing.... true showing of a good combo in eq an good team work...
# Nov 22 2002 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
LOL learn what your talking about i saw a 65 enchanter solo wuoshi on AB server
# Nov 17 2002 at 6:08 AM Rating: Good
8 posts
Speaking as a ranger, id say this weapon is a nice primary raid weapon. As i have my swifty (40% haste) in offhand and on the raids i attend we generally have a chanter casting VoG, then i tend to go for a weapon with a slightly higher dmg/dly, simply because if i were to use a weapon with a lower delay im gonna have WAY too much agro.

Id never use this weap solo cause it is far too slow, but in a raid/speed group situation then im very happy to use this.

By the way, 2 lammy's for a ranger isnt actually that bad, if your not taunting/snaring then the MT wont actually have that much trouble keeping agro, if he does just back away for a sec, hit hide then rejoin, you'll have ditched alot of agro. I have personally used the guard captains mallet (11/20) in offhand and the rat whip from hate (Ranger only, 5/14) and still had 0 agro problems in good groups (And i was doing this pre jolt)

When Light and Darkness do battle, only Death prevails
Prim or Secon
# Sep 19 2002 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
12 posts
52nd Ranger using This (primary) and Velium Swiftblade(secondary). Not too bad of a combo and I really dont grab argo from the Warriors or Monks. Even if I did for some strange reasion. We have a spell called Jolt that can be chain casted easy enough.

Ideal Combo Wurmy + Scim + CoF ) but alas would no dought = Dead Ranger
RE: Prim or Secon
# Sep 20 2002 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
hmmmmm. it should almost always be lower delay in primary, this is secondary. velium swiftblade does have such an awful damage though. i think i'd have to do the calculations =)
RE: Prim or Secon
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
37 posts
he uses velium swiftblade as haste item, its a VERY cheap but high haste % item before u have CoF or any other uber haste items.
RE: Prim or Secon
# Jan 12 2003 at 12:15 PM Rating: Default
107 posts
Only when in lower level guilds does it = dead ranger in reference to Wurmy/Scim/CoF... However, if you're a ranger on a raid (not group) and still using your swords on Big Boss of Dungeon X, and 55+... something is definately wrong. POW! 400. POW! 400. POW! You score a critical hit! (1538). You get the idea. Of course people with archery mastery do this naturally, but on the raid you would be using trueshot disc.
Beldarin, 29 Ranger
Guk Server
I deal weapon for melee druid
# Sep 04 2002 at 5:37 AM Rating: Default
161 posts

I'm suffering a bit bad designed character, thought at the creation that class would get natural bonusses for int and wis(BIG MISTAKE). Anyway not wanting to recreate my char and lvl up again, tend to group. Let warriors/pallies take the agro cast a few DD's and step in the fight assist meleewise while saving some mana to replace healer(s) and give hem time to med up. Don't know if i can keep this up till the higher 40's but till 36 it worked.
Senyene, serving karana.

# Jul 02 2002 at 8:38 AM Rating: Default
48 posts
According to the stats, i say the only classes that would have a really good use out of this wep would be ranger, bard, and rogue..... MAYBE druid if you have maxed out wis without your weapon. IMO the delay is too slow for a warrior, and if your a warrior its not worth the amount you have to pay. Of course alot of the bards i group with rarely melee at all, but that depends on the bard.
Gumm Drop
49 Ranger
RE: classes
# Aug 26 2002 at 11:28 PM Rating: Decent
92 posts
100 mana = about 16/17 Wis if you're already over 200... which is pretty nice.

Even for a Druid, the dam/delay means I can now fend off the lawn trash without resorting to the one 'over-kill nuke' I have memmed Smiley: grin

At 44, un-Guilded and soloing... this is pretty much as close to an Epic as my treehugger's going to get!

Edited, Tue Aug 27 00:15:24 2002
If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and sew our skins into their clothes. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order
RE: classes
# Jul 16 2002 at 12:28 AM Rating: Good
198 posts
ya...ok shadowknights and pallys DON"T need a 20/30 1hs with +100mana. thats right they don't need mana.ohh what if they want to keep that nice shiled =) bah this isn't fer them.

/sarcasm off
RE: classes
# Jul 25 2002 at 1:51 AM Rating: Decent
the thing is buddy..the ratio 20/34 sucks for sk and pally...**** even a MoSS is better than this..19/29 int10 and thats only 600pp on bertox, sks and pallys cant afford to use the same weaps as other melee because they cant dual wield, thats why the sk/pally weaps are the best in the game, just look at the noct blade and sword of pain.
Du bist ginman, fear me.
#Dalamuri, Posted: Aug 13 2002 at 11:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hey monkey, int doesnt help paladins jack. Paladins use wis. Paladins are hardly ever MT so they can afford to have a bit slower weapon with higher damage, unless going up against a casting mob.
RE: classes
# Nov 04 2002 at 1:39 AM Rating: Decent
58 posts
Wow, a great example of someone that is obviously confused and new to the game but talks too much. First off his example was for a SK using MoSS and considering that a MoSS is SK only a paladin wouldn't use it anyways this was just used to show how Paladins and SK's get 1handed weapons with crazy ratios along with other classes that can't dual wield. Considering this is off a high lvl mob, at the time you would be actually killing this mob, it would be a joke to give this to a pally or SK. Most SK's and pallys will have something that's fairly close to having a ratio of one. Ah you lvl 38's and such just **** me off when you come on and try to act like you know what you're talking about and fail miserably. Most likely the guy realized int isn't for paladins, that wasn't his point anyways. I'm done wasting my time on you, just got me frustrated with your ignorant remark. Oh btw you're Magelo profile is uber! I bet you got that all solo with your drood! HA
RE: classes
# Aug 05 2002 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
as an off hand weapon this is superb right now my warrior is using a green jade axe and that's 17 dmg and with the extra 3 dmg she'd be kicking ****! Just my 2cp
Preferred offhander
# Jun 05 2002 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
46 posts
As this is one of the few good offhanders I had yet to try, I finally bought one on my server. I stuck it on my rogue, level 52 atm, and I must say the damage output is excellent. My average hit was a double 65ish, and even though I don't swing it as often as its predecessor (11 damage piecer) it hits much harder and definitely does more damage.

As far as off-hand weapons go, it's hard to find one that is tradeable and has more than 20 damage. The saves and mana are nice, but only bonuses; it's quite obvious that the focus of this weapon is its fantastic ratio. I can easily say this is the best off-hander (non-no drop) that I've ever come across.

Only problem I have is the graphic, which unfortunately looks like fine steel. Good thing is that it's sort of unique, as in the high-end game you don't see very many people using a weapon of this graphic type.
"Power is Found in Unity" - Jorlen of Drinal
Just a thought
# Mar 06 2002 at 1:13 PM Rating: Excellent
76 posts
Having read everything that wasn't skipped by my filtering, I noticed one thing that nobody has mentioned. This sword has some +20 saves versus Disease and Poison, and only a 2.0 weight. So, IMHO, any class that COULD use it would benefit from it, regardless of their habits as far as meleeing goes...saves are for what it's worth, flame me if ya like, I don't mind...

Kinderslye, 23rd lvl Paladin of Underfoot
Proud member of the Onyx Order
Quellious server

Edited, Wed Mar 6 13:14:48 2002
There are three things in life that I'm sure of:

No good deed goes unpunished...ever...

No matter where you go....there you are.

Ignorance is a condition that can be remedied by education and experience...but there is no cure for stupidity.
# Oct 30 2001 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
1 post
I just spent about a half hour reading all of these and all i can say is "people these days complain and argue to **** much" ppl get a life after one person says it 10 other ppl dont need to post the same thing just in a diferent way.
My screen name is tobang or some form of it (ie tobangy, tobby, toblet....) look me up!
# May 08 2002 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
108 posts
OMG someone with some common sense. WOOT
Oh and **** fine blade there.

47 Druid
Cazic Thule
# Oct 09 2001 at 6:03 AM Rating: Excellent
This is around the 13th best RATIO offhander a warrior can have (including ALL zones like Veeshans Peak). Its around the best ratio offhander for a ranger. And I guess one of the best for rogues too considering the low taunt-factor. (ratio only and no proc factor(anyways, the assisting ppl shouldnt taunt))

I draw a conclusion its a very good assisting weapon and should be treated like that when you figure out the price.
RE: dmg/dly
# May 13 2002 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
5 posts
if saying high delay is less taunt, why do idiot warriors use wurmslayers?!?
RE: dmg/dly
# Sep 02 2002 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
16 posts
Why? Well, for several reasons. First of all, you don't Want taunt unless you are the MT or ST in any raiding want damage. Therefore a high dps weapon is highly desired. With a damage per second of 12.75, the Wurm is still pretty high up the list of dps weapons. By the way're absolutely incorrect. A warrior's job is most definitely to deal damage in any situation where they are not the assist.
Decondly, in addition to the above, a Wurm can be purchased on my server for as little as 800p. An excellent combination, especially on a dragon raid, would be the wurm in one hand and the scimitar in the other. High damage...low agro...high resists and NO to all the chowder heads who are going to say this, just because you are lvl 60 and raiding dragons, you arent necessarily going to have better.

Aielman KajiraLiege
Birds of Prey, Prexus
Aielman KajiraLiege
#Jawnimus, Posted: May 15 2002 at 12:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) cause they're idiot warriors...
RE: dmg/dly
# Jul 16 2002 at 12:33 AM Rating: Good
198 posts
Simple ALOT of warriors i still meet em at lvls at 50+ are nOObs. lol its funny but those are the ones u see not in uber guilds. This one chick lvl 53 was using a Wurmy/CLS combo....but 40+delay weapon main and a 27delay off hander....SCHW's so 22% haste. but what ever she was fighting at her lvl being a warrior she would not hold aggro. It would be the dumb rangers i always see duel weilding 2 lammys lol. I think ppl have there class weapon selection WAY off. OH also becuase they like the DMG mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm kay....when are some of my **** warriors gonna understand.... WE ARE NOT THE ONES KILLING THE DRAGONS AND HIGH LVL MOBS . WE ARE THE ONES GETTING THE $HIT KICKED OUT OF AND CLERICS SIT AND HEAL US SO THE REST OF THE CASTERS CAN NUKE UNINTERRUPTED......

get real
# Sep 24 2001 at 8:48 AM Rating: Default
100k for this wep? GET REAL
Brilliant offhander.
# Sep 11 2001 at 2:02 AM Rating: Excellent
146 posts
This is actually the ideal (well nearly) offhander for a Rogue. She's slow and damaging, meaning good output with lower taunt. Saves are a nice perk but the key is the damage.

Would a Ranger bank half of his or her epic for this? No, they wouldn't unless resists were at issue. Would a Warrior use this? Well, non-Main Tank Warriors might well. SKs and Pallies have much better main-hand options. In fact the slow delay discounts this entirely for mainhand use. Still, it strikes me as the near-perfect offhander for aggro aware Rogues (you know, the non-dead ones).

To those that suggest giving this to a caster, I /boggle at you. 100mana is almost enough to cast something by the time you get this. Almost.
Have It
# Aug 09 2001 at 1:28 AM Rating: Default
i have this and my elaborate scimitar, i use this over my eleborate scimitar for 2 reasons, the resists and the mana, i have way over 200wis so no reason to use elaborate which with 200wis adds a total of 19 mana :)
I used it!
# Jul 28 2001 at 5:27 AM Rating: Default
1 post
I am a lvl 49 Druid and just got this weapon in a very generous trade. I am using now, but i agree, i dont melee much and would rather sell it or trade it to a ranger or rogue, if you know price range on this item please reply to the post, i am on Prexus server.

RE: I used it!
# Aug 09 2001 at 10:01 PM Rating: Default
prexus is one screwed up server for pricing...

id imagine it would go for anywhere between 12k-20k considering prexus's market but i could be wrong..
RE: I used it!
# Sep 02 2001 at 2:43 PM Rating: Default
15 posts
lmao imagine having this, a pair of ogre butchers gloves (1ac 25sv disease and posion), and a stien of moggok on an ogre sk lol thats 70 extra DR, a shaman or necro scouldn't touch you in a duel lol
RE: I used it!
# Jan 16 2003 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
You better throw in some fire and magic resists or you're gonna get owned with funeral pyre and splurt. Not to mention life-taps, which are magic based.

Edited, Thu Jan 16 09:49:14 2003
# Jul 20 2001 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
16 posts
IMHO I think this looks like a good bardic off hand blade. Warriors and Rogues can't use the mana, Bards can. Unless of course all bards have better ones than this in their off hand. I duno yet as that my bard is still only lvl 32 but it makes sence to me.
not a bad scimy for druids
# Jul 19 2001 at 10:28 PM Rating: Default
this is great for its resists and mana, and why use elaborate scimitar when ur wisdom is over 200? The only reason a druid should not roll on this is if they have their epic.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 05 2001 at 3:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hello my name is Whittles I'm lvl a 9 ranger and have one of these because my girlfriend is a lvl 58 Enchanter. It's really great when she PLs me because I have this sword with 100mana plus I get clerity.
RE: Whittles
# Mar 05 2002 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
294 posts
Sounds like another twinked prodigy..
"Shut up or I'll get my Girlfriend to kill you!"
"Fine, you want to duel? Let me get my main!"

I laugh at you!
If you're gonna post.. make it something useful.
(Excuse the flame and my useless post. hehe)
#Anonymous, Posted: Sep 29 2001 at 6:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ever heard of dmgcap?
#Muxx, Posted: Dec 26 2001 at 11:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Man, Sheddup!
# Jul 04 2001 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
121 posts
i play a druid and there's no way i'd roll on this...sure, i can use it...but i won't use it, and neither will any high level druid with half a brain. even elaborate skimmy is better for druids.
neener neener
# Jun 17 2001 at 2:52 AM Rating: Excellent
I'm a rogue and I've got this bad boy in offhand and ragebringer in main. Meaning I've got a constant 40% haste. I often see slashes for low 100s, never over around 110 or so and love it. 34 delay in offhand doesn't mean diddly when I've got 40% haste and more often than not, am grouped with an enchanter that has epic or at least AQ. So I'm dealing out massive damage with this bad boy. Rangers should have their epic, or be close to it by the time they're killin Woushi. I'd have not accepted this over a ranger if any needed, but all ours got epic hehe. Druid? LOL. If a druid even thinks about dealin melee by the time they're high enough to touch this, they're on crack. This is a melee offhand weapon. Period. All you pre-50 noob druids talkin about melee, shoo, go away, and come back in 20 levels when your head makes it's way out of your ***.
RE: neener neener
# Dec 16 2002 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
4 posts
I have to agree with the other rogues here. This weapon is fantastic for off hand. I use this and my Ragebringer together. But, the amount of damage I'm dealing will often bring me right up that hate list pretty fast. I evade constantly and if I have two failures back to back, and if the MT or MA is close to my level, I am certain that my next BS will earn me top hate. In some cased I found I earned the hate faster with this combo than with RB and Bloodpoint procing constantly.

If you are a rogue with RB, I recommend considering getting this weapon. I love it and I bet you will too. Then work on your AC and HP, you'll need it when you have to become tank for a bit in your group. It will happen. Sometimes it is fun to tease that tank 6, or more, levels higher and out taunt them.
# Jun 14 2001 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
Anyone here who says that druids should use this... Sorry but you are a moron. LOOK at the damage / delay. 20 / 34. THAT is amazing for an offhand weapon, where damage matters most and delay means little because you hit less offhand anyways. Besides, this comes from ******** and only raids by guilds will take him down... Do you really think they would be stupid enough to merit this to a druid...

NO. No one is that dumb.

Im on Tarew Marr, if you want to discuss this.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 17 2001 at 2:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're an idiot.
#Queklain, Posted: Jul 13 2001 at 3:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Aha!
RE: Korguran
# Jul 14 2001 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
5 posts
I quite agree! It's pretty sad when the average dolt can't place his own name on the reply, I mean is he disabled, abused, or quite frankly does he have a self complexion problem wherein he cannot fully place his full or even abbreviated name upon a reply due to some morbid psychosematic schitzophrantic obsessive compulsive behavior? Or is he just an anonymous pig who has his head stuck where the sun doesn't shine and he's so lonely in there he has no friends so he just sits at home in his uncomfortable position and clicks his mouse around on the web making fun of "lesser mortals" who are the ones that actually make this game fun, considering their not so stuck on themselves, or should I say stuck IN themselves, that they can't play well with others! So yes I quite agree with Korguran . . . as for you pull your head out of your *** and play NICE!
Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn
# Jun 08 2001 at 7:39 AM Rating: Default
There's a lot of debate here on how this item could best be deployed. I'd say hands down give it to a ranger to wield in their off-hand. For duel wielding you want lots of damage in your off-hand (it's not going to hit as often, so delay is less of a factor) and believe me - for a 1hs 20 dam is LOTS.

So - that brings it down to rangers, rogues, bards and warriors. Rogues and warriors have no need for mana - give the warrior a wurmy and a rogue some uber piercer. Which brings us back to rangers and bards.

Bards already add enough taunt without them adding a huge amount of melee damage - you could possibly say the same about a ranger, but your speedbumps deserve a break now and then for the work they put in taunting mobs off the player who's about to drop - be it the chanter, the cleric, the druid or the tank - a ranger who know's what he's doing will more often than not be the guy who'll take a death to give the rest of the party that extra 5-10 seconds they need to resolve a messy situation.

Be nice to your ranger and let him have this toy!

Hradlorin Shiningpath
Ranger, Protector and Guide
Bane Sidhe of Fennin Ro
42 seasons
RE: Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn
# Jun 15 2001 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
Warriors get a wurmslayer, are u kidding? most warriors ditch that piece by at least level 45 and to kill woushi u best be over 52

46 war
# Jun 06 2001 at 9:46 AM Rating: Default
to the druids who want this for dmg dly, here is what you would see if you meleed

"An ice giant hits YOU, for 111dmg"
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 117dmg"
"An ice giant bashes YOU, for 32dmg"
You are stunned.
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 98dmg"
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 112 dmg"
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 9dmg"
"An ice giant kicks YOU, for 28dmg"
You are unstunned
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 111dmg"
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 48dmg"
"An ice giant bashes YOU, for 32dmg"
You are stunned
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 117dmg"
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 98dmg"
You are bleeding to death!
"An ice giant hits YOU, for 117dmg"
You have been slain by An ice giant
You have lost level 58!
Returning to home point
"random_necro#1 says: shoulda kitted it, but you wanted that **** sword so you could melee"
/ignore random_necro#1
End of story, you wanna melee as a druid, play a ranger.

BTW you wouldnt be hunting these at 58, just an example, mobs 50+ all hit for double 120dmg or higher(ice well sentries come to mind) try and melee would get yur *** handed to you unless the mob was green 25 levels ago, feal free to flame me =)

RE: hm...
# Aug 23 2001 at 8:00 PM Rating: Excellent
A druid can melee when that ***** of a mob starts to try to escape, and that is only when. I know plenty of druids who can kite and melee plenty of the things they kill. Don't try to tank but always remember you can save mana.
Aeren Baeren
Friar of the 34th Staff
Laeros Sureflight
Scout of the 21st Longbow
The Circle
Kay Server
RE: hm...
# Dec 11 2002 at 1:41 AM Rating: Decent
Why do you think we druids max out any Weapon skill at 175? Druids only should melee when the mob is not attacking (when he's below a bubble of health). Fear Kiting is an exception, because your whacking them in the **** while they are scared hehe.
Haeddan Forestwalker

Level 40 Druid of Karana - Povar
RE: hm...
# Nov 12 2001 at 5:34 AM Rating: Decent
5 posts
melee caster(druid this time) another nice idea - just check ur skill in 1hs -
bards after recent patches is put on warior
skill cap table in melee skills ( not in defensive ofcuz), estimate I can do about 600-1000hp dmg (SC handwraps + 45% speed song) to green/light blue/blue giants in Kael (NOT THE ARENA MOB's)
u can try ur estimate made dmg - no haste at all, im dual wielding two weapons, u have only one,
ur offensive skill and 1hs skill is 175 and offense is 200,
I gaved u maxed skill caps at 60, if I would be maxed at 60 i would have 250 in 1hs

( 56 Bard atm)

I have both skills over 200 ( something like 230 and 235 righ now)

roughly I think ur dmg will be around 200hp/min

so better:
1) med for 50sec and make one nice big nuke/dot;
2) get item with manna free nukes/dots
ex Woland Kanly
Where best to put this?
# Jun 04 2001 at 5:31 AM Rating: Default
A 20/34 Weapon is a great ratio weapon. I think you'd find that a the level of the game where you could get this item, it wouldn't be unreasonable to give to a warrior, rogue, or ranger for off hand use. Paladins, Shadowknights your better off using a sword of the morning/Noc blade as speed will help your taunt greatly and as a meat shield thats what will matter. Let the rogues and the monks do the damage, you job is to take the damage. As far as wasting the 100 mana, yes it would be nice if whoever got that could use it, but lets be honest, this is a weapon, and its the dmg ratio that matters. There are a lot of better primary hand items out there for druids.
just an opinion
# Jun 03 2001 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
103 posts
Well my opinion is this: Being a Paladin I would love this weapon. I could most definatly use the added mana plus the damage process is incredible, especially now that Im lvl 40, plus Im slightly lacking on my 1hs its only at 165, compared to my 2hs which is at 199. As for a druid not using this is just crazy. For one thing even if they arent fighing with a weapon and only casting the added mana would come in handy. Theres no reason not as far as warriors are concerned its a waste..the only reason I would think they would want one is to equip a shield and there are plenty of 1hs's for that.
# May 28 2001 at 5:14 AM Rating: Decent
29 posts
well after reading most of these post i have come to the conclusion. nearly no one absolutely needs this weapon. But out of the few classes that can equip it rangers, bards, and druids seem to get the best effect out of it. i don't know many sk or pallies that would use this because they can't duel wield so they go with a 2hs. granted they do use 1hs but that's usually to keep the skill up just in case. reason why i say druids is because epic weapon procs don't stack if memmory serves me right. if i'm going against a upper lvl creatures that casts necro etc type spells than this will definitely help. although epic is the best weapon for your class doesn't mean the only weapon how many melee weapons do you meleers have and you tell me you wouldn't switch off.

most ppl won't use this all the time unless twinked regardless ;-)
# May 24 2001 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
77 posts
this isnt for druids,im a druid and i know this. first of all if a druid gets this tey will just sell it, another thing is you should be almost done or HAVE your epic by the time you should be fighting this dragon, give this weap to Hybrids.. cause that is all i see with this weapon.
# Jul 19 2001 at 10:32 PM Rating: Default
im a druid also and higher than u and yes i would use this weapon. And no you shouldnt have ur epic by the time u can get this. Druid epic is considered very easy but take into account that hardly anyone will help you. And even when u do get help you still must get a jade reaver (which is constantly farmed)
#Anonymous, Posted: May 20 2001 at 6:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) stupid newbies!!!
# Jul 05 2001 at 3:41 PM Rating: Default
Very good for you to notice I bet you were a strait A student in school.

*** fairy
#Queklain, Posted: Jul 13 2001 at 3:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So what? It gives them more mana to do what?... yes, that's right.
# Aug 09 2001 at 1:33 AM Rating: Default
sorry to burst ur buble but this item went to a druid when we killed wuoshi as all of our melees had primal velium
RE: lol
# Dec 26 2001 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
64 posts
If you gave this to a Druid, your an Idiot!
excuse me
# May 19 2001 at 11:00 PM Rating: Good
Im a lv 35 druid.I solo thats it.SOLO. Only time I group is for a specific item or such for for short term.
I die less when I solo.I also do most my damage while in MELEE!!!.***GASP*** A caster meleeing , shock.I hate kiting, its a pain. Ive been there doone it and will do if I have to,but I hate it.Id love to have this weapon! It rules.As good delay as runed falchion and lots more dam dealing. Id love to know the going price for this baby.I saw offered once in FP but didnt even ask.
# Jun 07 2001 at 8:24 AM Rating: Default
YEAH that's what we need is more druids who melee! yeah we're actually fairly good at it, plus we can't do much else...we might as well get into the fight for that extra damage! too bad my 1hs sucks
RE: excuse me
# Jun 04 2001 at 5:36 AM Rating: Default
Your 35th level, by the time your 57-60 where you'd have a shot at this weapon you won't be meleeing. Being hit for 160,160,60 will make your 30 dmg shots seem pathetic and your tactics will change.
RE: excuse me
# Sep 30 2001 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
now i find this amusing. i'm currently at 44 going onto 45. i dont melee very often, unless im either kiting and dont want to waste the mana finishing off the mob, or when im with a group of friends messing around. now go ahead and flame me all you want, but i would take this weapon not only for the dmg/dly, but for the 100 mana. but since i am only lvl 44 or so, i doubt i'll see it anytimes soon.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 17 2001 at 1:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Rofl... this Cracks me up...
#Anonymous, Posted: May 13 2001 at 6:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is not a ******* melee weapon people. The 100 mana and the fact its a SCIMITAR (druid type weapon) is what makes it good for druids and them mainly. Just because something is all/all doesnt mean its good for all classes you idiots. You don't see paladins wearing guardian robes cuz they can, because that would be a waste of the **** thing.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 04 2001 at 5:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 100 mana means very little. By the time you can get this item (57-60th level) a 100 mana item would be nice but not a major bonus. Much better items out there for a druid that don't have such good ratio's. Why is it whenever a dr00d sees a scimitar they always think dr00d weapon?? Most dr00ds at this level if given this would sell it, likely to a rogue or ranger.
# May 11 2001 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
60 posts
Ok so everyone has staked their claim for this item going to their class. Let me put it this way: assuming I dont already have something better, If i'm one of the classes listed as able to use this weapon and I want to go on a Wuoshi raid I will check the loot rules before I go - if they state that my class cant roll on the weapon I won't get all hostile, I'm just not going on the raid!!

Galadril Adamante
Paladin of Tunare
Bristlebane Server
umm moron
# May 08 2001 at 10:03 PM Rating: Default
guilds capable of killing wuoshi dont roll for uber items like this. Officers or the loot director of the guild decide who gets the item they award it to the person who will get the most use of it. In this case a warrior bard rogue or ranger.

Conker The Halfling Rogue
RE: umm moron
# Jul 13 2001 at 3:39 PM Rating: Default
32 posts
Hey buddy, Rangers have their epics and Bards can get something else(their melee skills suck ***)
# May 08 2001 at 8:48 PM Rating: Default
whoever rolls the magic number gets it and can do whatever he fu*(&^% wants to do with it . Please get a life
# May 08 2001 at 8:46 PM Rating: Default
who would actually get this
# May 05 2001 at 2:34 PM Rating: Default
Ok any guild that can kill Wuoshi would not give this to a druid.. Ive seen about a dozen people using this weapon almost all of them warriors and 1 rogue why? because this is one of the best pre sleepers Offhand weapons for a warrior. If u say ur a druid and u have this Your either a ******* Liar, traded for it, or bought it off ebay. and Dont say u cant trade for it because I have seen a few for sale in DL trading for Lodizal shields and stuff like that..

Conker of Innoruuk
Halfling Rogue
RE: who would actually get this
# Jun 09 2001 at 10:56 PM Rating: Default
heheh, my guild only considers druids for this weapon...everyone else has better already and don't ask to be considered for it. The 100 mana and RESISTs are great. I've seen 3 drop and 3 druids (only one's without epic) got a new sword.
# May 04 2001 at 10:17 AM Rating: Default
The highest dmg. (20dmg) Rogues can get offhand!
Best for rogues with Epic (40% haste), and 59lev /disc
# May 03 2001 at 12:19 AM Rating: Default
Hey, this be good for bard WOOT, P, high dmg and low delay
Message from me to you
# May 02 2001 at 8:05 PM Rating: Default
I'm a druid.
I was awarded this weapon and I was using a Tunarien Scimitar prior(8/19 +6 wis +40mana)

The melee classes in my guild are already giving me crap about this b/c I was awarded it on the basis of needed resists.

Either be prepared to deal with this should you be awarded the scimmy from a raid or just pass it on to someone else.
Great Druid Item
# Apr 23 2001 at 2:23 AM Rating: Default
Hey...I got killed twice while grouped against Woushi. I worked hard for this thing and I won the lotto and I have every right to carry it or trade it as I see fit.
I see there are a lot of people out there who want to tell me what to do with my rightful winnings. For them I will be sure to salute them should I see them on my server with scim in hand.
REAL wis/mana ratio
# Apr 23 2001 at 1:57 AM Rating: Default
Just to tell you people....
10 Wisdom does NOT always=100 mana
The equation for wis/int is (wis/int) x (level x 0.2) = mana
this does not include plus mana items you may have.
so for example: at level 5, with 150 wis (or int), the equation would be
(150) x (5 x 0.2)
(150) x (1)
150 mana
so this mean that yes, at lvl 50, 10 wis would = 100 mana, but at that level and ONLY at that level.
jesus, only say things you understand
this item is for
# Apr 23 2001 at 1:20 AM Rating: Decent
4 posts
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 21 2001 at 9:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I really wish people would leave their stupid ideas somewhere else, lets face it, all you people who'd resent a druid getting it are never gonna be making that kind of decision, so PLS shut up, jesus, like anyone really cares about you and your stupid little opinions, or my stupid little opinions...
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 13 2001 at 12:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If there was a ranger/warrior/rogue in the group, and a druid had the nerve to say he wanted to be in on the roll for it... I'd beat him about the face, chest, neck, and head. You're a druid, you don't need a sword or ANY weapon. So shut your blathering pie-hole and stick with your paw/testament/cgs for casting power. I don't care what the stats on it are, if you don't melee, you don't get the weapon... capiche?
RE: Only thing I have to say is this:
# Apr 28 2001 at 10:13 AM Rating: Default
Well after all the comments I may go get me one of these to twink a newbie Druid.
Thanks for the Idea, Illusionist, Innoruk
It's damn nice
# Mar 18 2001 at 5:29 AM Rating: Default
Best non-Sleepers Tomb or Veeshans Peak offhand weapon for Warriors, Better ratio than epic... Offhand is only ratio for warriors, It would be a WASTE on a Paladin or SK since it's pretty bad if you only used it in one hand... and Pallies and SK's who would be fighting Wuoshi should have better 2hs weapons anyway... Wurmslayer is better ratio for primary hand than it too so it would be an extreme waste on an SK or Pally

Good on Warriors, Rogues & Rangers
# Mar 11 2001 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
As a weapon this is merely OK. Yes on the surface a 20/34 weapon would look nice. yes, the numbers look great, but for one thing...
TOO **** SLOW!
Druid, have your little scimmy, I won't make you cry. =)
RE: Hmm
# Mar 19 2001 at 6:44 PM Rating: Default
It's equal to a 10/17 in your offhand since ratio is the only thing that counts in offhand... Low taunt too so probably good for rangers
You are all stupid
# Feb 12 2001 at 10:08 AM Rating: Default
Lol, everyone is trying to say a druid will get this, why? because it has 100mana. There are much nicer items out there, so unless you are twinking a newbie (which no one will allow you to) this sword is pretty useless to druids. As well, rangers, paladins, and shadowknights will have the biggest improvement from this weapon. Its a 1hslashing weapon, which all three constantly use, it has extra mana for whatever we want to do, and its got extra poison/disease resist, and i know how much i hate being poisoned or diseased from melee procs of creatures.

Vangor Dagnor
RE: You are all stupid
# Mar 28 2001 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
Once you hit the 200 in wisdom, this +100 mana is like gold. I honestly believe that a druid who would get this sword, already has 200 in wisdom, so I'd say, unless he has his epic, a druid should use this weapon.
RE: You are all stupid
# Apr 01 2001 at 1:47 AM Rating: Default
Can and Will use
# Feb 27 2001 at 12:21 PM Rating: Good
Is it such a hard consept to understand? Can and Will use. Everyone on the list of usable clases can use effectivly in different ways. Let those who can and will use and let the fate on random choose the winner of a very nice item.
RE: You are all stupid
# Feb 18 2001 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
This weapon has ranger written all over it... Druids hardly EVER melee so count them out, too good of dmg/dly to waste. Rogues and bards I don't even have to say anything about... A shadowknight get too superior of one handed weapons to get this, I mean heck, they can pick up a MoSS for 5k, 19/29 +10 int. A ranger and warrior pretty much get the same type of weapons so it would next goto either warrior,then paladin IMO. But warriors probably get counted out, which shouldn't be the case... The reason I say warriors over pallies is because even though the mana will waste, the dmg/dly is so much of an improvement to the Warriors 1h then the pallies... Just my 2cp...
RE: You are all stupid
# Mar 04 2001 at 1:13 PM Rating: Default
Hey what I think is pallys are better off with 2 h slash because they don't get duel weild but...i think Rangers would use this fine because they do get dule weild and they meele (which this is good for) and they need extra manna because like pallys they are part fighter and with there higher level spells they use up Manna really quick and warriors PLEASE they would be wasting a great wepon for all warriors out there Go get a better wepon there are plenty out there were you won't be using up one of it's great powers get a Yak or a wurm slayer that is very common for warriors
Aaradian Stonetree
Reunited Clan
RE: You are all stupid
# Feb 18 2001 at 11:26 PM Rating: Default
This weapon has ranger written all over it... Druids hardly EVER melee so count them out, too good of dmg/dly to waste. Rogues and bards I don't even have to say anything about... A shadowknight get too superior of one handed weapons to get this, I mean heck, they can pick up a MoSS for 5k, 19/29 +10 int. A ranger and warrior pretty much get the same type of weapons so it would next goto either warrior,then paladin IMO. But warriors probably get counted out, which shouldn't be the case... The reason I say warriors over pallies is because even though the mana will waste, the dmg/dly is so much of an improvement to the Warriors 1h then the pallies... Just my 2cp...
RE: You are all stupid
# Feb 12 2001 at 3:54 PM Rating: Excellent
52 posts
Excellent post, other than the subject. You touched upon pretty much everything, but no need to be obnoxious about it. Agreed, however, that this would be better off in the hands of a hybrid. And before you angry druids start, I am simply stating that OVERALL it would be more effective for a hybrid. Yes, 100 mana from one items rocks. But with it's stats, would be better suited for a melee class.

Karkas 49 DE Necro
RE: You are all stupid
# Feb 16 2001 at 10:37 AM Rating: Default
Do druids really get into melee if they don't have to? I know there is a cap on how much mana you can get by having high int/wis, and I believe items that add mana bypass this cap. And who wouldn't want +20 to a couple resists? This weapon rocks for any class that can use it - especially druids.
RE: You are all stupid
# Feb 17 2001 at 1:33 AM Rating: Default
+100 mana is equal to about 10 wis for a druid. So is a +10 wis +20 sv pos +20 sv dis 20/34 1hs bad for a druid? No way in **** bro, in fact its prob one of better items for a druid.
RE: You are all stupid
# Mar 08 2001 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
215 posts
Heck, I'd even use it, and I'm a warrior. Why? The resistance boosts, for one, but also because it's got a good damage/delay ratio. Then once I got somethint else (not necessarily something better), I'd sell it for a nice chunk of change.
Xariama Jerricho, 90 Bounty Hunter, Tempest

"This has been a public service announcement, brought to you by Degeneration X, who would like to remind you that, if you are not down with that, we've got two words for you..."
RE: You are all stupid
# Jun 07 2001 at 8:28 AM Rating: Default
You'll get mana too as a warrior lolololol =)
RE: You are alstupid
# Apr 21 2001 at 8:34 PM Rating: Default
For bloody pete sake, A druid could go oom in a solo fight, and what **** good is the Little book in my hand. I could throw this old disease infested paw at the dragon, Wow, it did nothing. This is why druids need stuff like this. ****, Rangers get two choices for there weapon, Therefor widen there range. We need the Mo fo, So bite my ***, It's mine, Alsway be, and when i get my epic, i'm gonna switch em both in a fight and get a double wicked proc
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