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I just got mine Mon Night. Thanks to the House of Elder and the Immortal Brethren who came.
The General Dropped the QUILL for me !!!!!!! So i was able to turn it in Right away. I can't belive how much more freakin DPS I do but you Must get this epic. It is the Best in the Game!!!! (I'm only saying this cause I'm excited and partial cause I'm a rogue, no flames please)
Argetlam MacFly, I'm a HoE and damn proud of it!
(first of all it's man-*****...)
53 Barbarian Rogue
Tarew Marr
Ragebringer
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No your right it is in fact the best epic in the game.
15 dmg, 40% haste, I have yet to see a better weapon for a rogue. that doesnt include a better weapon AND a better haste item.
People say cleric epic is better, I can find a damn few things better than cleric epic...remember the click effect is a spell clerics already get, the main plus is that its 0 mana.
also chanter epic people say is better but most melees prefer VoG and theres also a group version of the epic spell which pretty much trivializes it i guess.
so i think this is number 1, bard is second and mage is 3rd :)
CAR!!!!
FLAME ON!!!!
15 dmg, 40% haste, I have yet to see a better weapon for a rogue. that doesnt include a better weapon AND a better haste item.
People say cleric epic is better, I can find a damn few things better than cleric epic...remember the click effect is a spell clerics already get, the main plus is that its 0 mana.
also chanter epic people say is better but most melees prefer VoG and theres also a group version of the epic spell which pretty much trivializes it i guess.
so i think this is number 1, bard is second and mage is 3rd :)
CAR!!!!
FLAME ON!!!!
@kelos
perhaps its a dead threat, but sometime a new rogue came across (or at least a monk who will start a rogue perhaps) :D
@ Jerker the Charming
(don't know how to make a zitat, so i will just copy and paste)
you wrote:
No your right it is in fact the best epic in the game.
15 dmg, 40% haste, I have yet to see a better weapon for a rogue. that doesnt include a better weapon AND a better haste item.
Soooo ... whats about the Monk Epic ? The Fists of a Monk became, just if we wear the Epic to dmg 9 dly 16 (ratio 1,777). Rogue epic is dmg 15 dly 25 (ratio 1,666). So the ratio isn't to much apart.
Second is the 40% haste on the rogue epic. It's Item Haste, so it will not stack with any other item haste. Only with songs and spells (and do you always have a bard or an enchanter/shammy with you ?) :D
The monk epic has a 41% hast SONG. So we can have any haste item (also if its only the 11% belt in grimmling forrest, which will take you at lvl 50 about 1 hour to get it) and it will stack with our epic :D
Fazit, i think the monk epic still is a little bit better than the rogue epic.
The huge advance of the rogue epic is, that there arent many weapons out there, with have such a nice dmg for backstab.
But there are a lot of weapons, with a better ratio than our fists :)
But once again, the huge advantage of our (monk) epic is, we can use any weapon with a better ratio, and we still have the normal item haste AND the 40% song haste :)
so think again about it, if the rogue Epic is a better epic than the monk epic ;)
PS: you wrote you are looking for a better weapon than this (dmg 15 AND 40% haste). You will never find this, but it also make no sense to me, why you shouldn't use a 41% haste item and a dmg 16 piercer :)
You will not need your Epic than any more :D
cu,
perhaps its a dead threat, but sometime a new rogue came across (or at least a monk who will start a rogue perhaps) :D
@ Jerker the Charming
(don't know how to make a zitat, so i will just copy and paste)
you wrote:
No your right it is in fact the best epic in the game.
15 dmg, 40% haste, I have yet to see a better weapon for a rogue. that doesnt include a better weapon AND a better haste item.
Soooo ... whats about the Monk Epic ? The Fists of a Monk became, just if we wear the Epic to dmg 9 dly 16 (ratio 1,777). Rogue epic is dmg 15 dly 25 (ratio 1,666). So the ratio isn't to much apart.
Second is the 40% haste on the rogue epic. It's Item Haste, so it will not stack with any other item haste. Only with songs and spells (and do you always have a bard or an enchanter/shammy with you ?) :D
The monk epic has a 41% hast SONG. So we can have any haste item (also if its only the 11% belt in grimmling forrest, which will take you at lvl 50 about 1 hour to get it) and it will stack with our epic :D
Fazit, i think the monk epic still is a little bit better than the rogue epic.
The huge advance of the rogue epic is, that there arent many weapons out there, with have such a nice dmg for backstab.
But there are a lot of weapons, with a better ratio than our fists :)
But once again, the huge advantage of our (monk) epic is, we can use any weapon with a better ratio, and we still have the normal item haste AND the 40% song haste :)
so think again about it, if the rogue Epic is a better epic than the monk epic ;)
PS: you wrote you are looking for a better weapon than this (dmg 15 AND 40% haste). You will never find this, but it also make no sense to me, why you shouldn't use a 41% haste item and a dmg 16 piercer :)
You will not need your Epic than any more :D
cu,
Minyatur Laurelin
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Solusek Ro
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lvl 70 Transcendent
Solusek Ro
www.protectorsofmoonglow.org
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=448579
you're forgetting that the Rage adds 40 raw attack, which ends up being around 56 attack once you hit 60 or so. I'm not going to jump in the argument XYZ class epic is better than ABC class epic.
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Well, think of it this way:
When was the last time a raid was cancelled because the epic rogue couldn't make it.
When was the last time a raid was cancelled because the epic cleric couldn't make it.
To the average raid size force, a rogue with epic is a little extra damage. A cleric with epic is 2 hours less downtime if you wipe.
Nuff said
When was the last time a raid was cancelled because the epic rogue couldn't make it.
When was the last time a raid was cancelled because the epic cleric couldn't make it.
To the average raid size force, a rogue with epic is a little extra damage. A cleric with epic is 2 hours less downtime if you wipe.
Nuff said
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I know this is prolly a pretty dead thread and no one will ever read this...but on the off chance someoen will I'd just like to say the bard epic is way more important to the class then any other. Not because its a great wep, my friends lvl 60 bard has several weps with better dmg/dly ratios. Its best because it counts as every type of instument and adds a big bonus to singing songs (not to mention it procs a group haste spell 10% better then our best song). Bottom line I've never met a bard who would ever consider banking their epic. As for the rouge epic I'd say cleric mage and enc epic are all better just to name a few =)
I was about to say what you said. Pound for pound Bard and Clerics have the most useful, important and 'must have' epics in the game for their class. Take a look at all the high end guilds on your servers. Most of them do not require you to have your epic to join -except- Clerics and Bards.
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