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Have epic on monk and rog prolly the two easiest epics to get even on a very low pop server. Agree monk epic is better overall but choice of weapons for rog is limited which makes it better for the class itself.
Book of souls can be tricky. Sometimes a few entrance mobs of PoH will see through your sneak and finding your way to the actual book itself can be confusing if you don't know where to go. From the Maestro's chapel/building, go straight down the stairs into the next building which should have an arch infront of it. Once you're in the doors, go up the right staircase and it's on the cabinet of some sorts.
Renux was a piece of cake. Took a Necro, a Beastlord, Pally, and a Ranger all just under level 70: overkill...
General V'ghera wasn't too hard himself, but there were a few lowbie adds that were annoying. All you need is a good puller and probably a 70+ SK with at least 200 AA's (SK could be puller as well), split and kill the mobs until you just have the Coercer left, hand in the pouch, kill General, viola. You can also kill the Coercer later, but she didn't aggro us when the general was pulled. /shrug
Soloed Yendar for the Shining Metallic Robes with a 75SK (430ish AA's, anguish geared, 17k HP buffed). Never dropped below 96% HP. Could easily do it with another SK with less AA's/levels/HP/etc
Kedge Robe -- Kill Phinny, hope it drops from the DE's in Kithicor or get a MQ. Not hard.
Other robes are easily obtainable in bazaar if you didnt get the Cazic Quil from V'Ghera. Hope I didn't miss anything and hope this helps a little.
Thanks
Poket
Brell (Cz)
Brell (CT)
Pugette Tripsalott
67 Monk - Brell (CT)
Mangie Scumsuccer
65 Shaman - Brell (CT)
Poket
71 Mage - Brell (CT)
Deathlich
58 Necro - CT
Hopefully i can get the note today and move on with epic.
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Kniving Lilbakstabber 46 rogue Vazaelle
THATS RIGHT i said Vazaelle!
From here, everything went smoothly. Ran around a lot getting the damnable note translated: both Yendar and Eldreth were up and Renux went down easy. Dead Man Floating will help you resist that nasty proc of hers, btw. Got my JDD and parchment, as well as a Ravenscale Mask (woot see invis!)
Did a quick bit of research on General V`Ghera and raided him promptly. I have posted about our strategy on the General V`Ghera bestiary page. Also got a Robe of the Kedge from the raid, meaning that all I have left to get is the Shining Metallic Robes.
Good luck. If you have your robes already (the three droppable ones can be bought for about 7k total on Bristlebane), the entire epic can be finished - from the first pickpocket to holding Ragebringer - in a day. (even for those of us without 1000 level 70 friends or uber gear! Yay)
P.s. Don't count on V`Ghera dropping the Cazic Quill. Count on him NOT dropping it. Then if he does, you can finish up epic really quick and sell the robe MQ.
Scoundrel, Assassin, Drunkard and Thief
Bristlebane (really Solusek Ro)
Final turn-in brought my HHP faction from Apprehensive to Warmly.
Scoundrel, Assassin, Drunkard and Thief
Bristlebane (really Solusek Ro)
<Valorious>
_________________________________________________
send me a tell on Maelin.
Kniving Lilbakstabber
"If i was able to see farther it was only because i stood on the shoulders of giants" Sir Isaac Newton...
I tried that but all I saw was
Returning to Bind Location...
LOADING PLEASE WAIT...
Edited, Sun Oct 16 13:45:36 2005
-Uthil, 53 Halasian Puppymaster <Lucky Insane> Poven Rasp
-Valys, 53 Furryfoot Rogue, Bristlebane (retired 10/01)
Coercer Mosrael Mandera - 72 Enchanter
<Tribal Fury>
Maelin Starpyre Server
He will
1> Have to Buy it *prices are going up exponentially as I type*. And i know too many ppl who dont like buying thier epics. Myself being one. we play to PLAY, not buy our way thru the game.
2> Take a raid force with him, for the purposes of getting the robe
3> Wait till 70 .. and who is going to do epic 1.0 at 70??
Of course, this entire post relies on the Ishva robe still being needed in the epic and still dropping in Paw.
This is bad news for Rogues of course, but may be a note of good news for all those ppl whining that the rogue epic is too easy.
Glad i got my 51 Rogue epic 2 weeks ago, but my 62 cleric still has to get a force for the Chardoc king.
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1046090
Foximoxi 54th Concerto Siren of Qeynos
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1116191
Worladar 54 seasons of bubbling rage
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1229621
You kill him, and there's more or less 0 downtime if you don't get the robe the first time. Ya just gotta chase the guy down.
Best of luck.
1. Malka Rayle can be skipped, but I wouldn't recommend it as the faction on Stanos' Pouch turn in is BIG.
2. Renux can be soloed (duh) by a 70 Druid with 500 AA's tanking her. Proc went off almost every hit but never landed.
3. General V'Ghera (and ALL his DE pals)were killed using two 70 Druids and a 69 Ranger as the tank. As a favor to a friend, I stayed out of the fight. (he wanted to attempt a solo, but after cleaning up the DE extras beforehand decided to get some backup) LESS than one groupable at this point.
4. The entire Epic can be done in one day, start to finish. From the initial note turn in to Stanos, to recieving the Ragebringer took about 4 hours.
5. I don't know what SoE changed in the Mid-December patch, but the Rogue Epic is still as gimpy as ever. Didn't have any suprises along the way.
Regarding Faction: You might also want to try turning in Orc Scalps for faction. Seems to go a bit faster than the Cards. FYI, the scalps off of Crushbone orcs can be turned in as well, and drop a lot more frequently. Hunt Gfay NOT CB if you're doing scalps. Manage about 6 stacks an hour and every two stacks jumps another "level" up in faction (it seems to cap at amiable though, as I turned in 16 stacks at amiable and it never changed. The Epic turnin's will get you to Ally from this point)
Edited, Fri Jan 7 15:07:14 2005
from farming plat in HHK without my epic i am now KOS to just about every moving thing in HHP..
whats the fastest way to bring faction back up inside both HHP and HHK to do the 1.0 epic...
as far as the 1.5 or 2.0 im not in a high end guild so it can wait.... i need to fix this ruddy faction first..
any help would be appreciated..
thanks
Farhenheyt
49 Rog povar
Kanadson 56 Vah Shir Rogue
Erollisi Marr
now i just need to get my High elf mask (pain in the arse to get all that stuff again...have had head in bank since level 15)
70th Gnomish Nemesis
Quellious
<Cold Fury>
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1105448
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1046090
Foximoxi 54th Concerto Siren of Qeynos
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1116191
Worladar 54 seasons of bubbling rage
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1229621
Sweet life kid.
Maynarrd PPO=Pattened
PC:
Dudecool Sexmachin http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1099122 (no longer played)
WoW:Shattered Hand
57 Gnome Warlock(2/8)
48 Human Warrior... iunno...
Rasies your faction from indiff to amible too
but makes the trip so much easier. I didn't even get touched after hide and sneak broke. Do it this way and if you know the location of the book the trip should take about 30 seconds. easy.
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1046090
Foximoxi 54th Concerto Siren of Qeynos
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1116191
Worladar 54 seasons of bubbling rage
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=1229621
I went and did the book step when I was lvl 50, so naturally I was scared out of my mind when I first got into PoH. I bought a stone and had the NPC lady in PoT beam me up. Well I got there, sneaked around a bit, and finally found the book! I was so excited that I realized I had no idea how to get the hell out...Luckily there was a level 70 ranger there, who I deuled and he killed me. I got to my spawning point and no xp lost! Yay! So I ran to Guild Lobby, summoned my corpse, and there was my beautiful book! Hooray for me!
My faction with Beta Neutral is so good, The Keeper of Lost Things gives me my corpse for free.
Too many people have posted that they pulled it off with a skill much lower than 200, but for me it only worked at 200.
Adios, Neriak. For now. /grin
Eivissa
Blackguard
Shards of Chaos, FV
It took a fair few attempts and although I didn't die the poor little puller did a few times. Poor chap doesn't know he's getting deleted now his job is over. I don't know how to tell him.
On most attempts Tani went dry before I got aggro. Once all the coin had gone I had 10 more tries before deciding that this spawn didn't have it.
Great source I used, which has been posted here previously is http://matt.waggoner.com/ragebringer.html
Completion date: 9/28/03
1. Pickpocketing the two guildmasters proved to be the hardest part for me :P You just gotta keep trying :P
2. You must be 51 to turn in parchments, he ate it for me before then. to spawn stanos I had my 55 high elf wizard talk to Anson and say "I need to see stanos" my wizard would then hail anson and turn him so he's facing the same way stanos is, I then simply handed stanos the parchments and recieved my new one. (using sneak)
3. skipping ahead.. rest above is easy, I two boxed renux with my 65 shammy and rogue, 65 shammy coulda solo'd renux but I wanted to have fun. shammy just tanked her using torpor to heal, wasn't a bad fight at all, "slighty" tougher than I expected though.
4. Turn in.. same as number 2.. worked fine.
5. General. I brought 2 groups consisting of: 4 box 65 war (MT) 63 enc, 62 cler, 62 mage, two box (me) 65 shammy 64 SK/51 rogue (switched between the two), 65 wiz (joined us for fun ;P) 65 bard (same) 62 cler, 63 war, 51 shammy
64 SK pulling w/ 63 enc doing a few pacifies. SK could solo pull w/o pacify or FD the low, green skeletons and kill them, then simply invis to get close and give the enc targets for pacify, worked like a charm.
6. Left Brig up, rogue spawned from behind at night, 65 war pulled general, used furious cause he wanted to :P and we promply slaughtered him using fast heals on the MT.
(note we probably could have done this with one group but I wanted to be safe ;-) )
7. Final Turn in, no problem using same method in number 2...
Still max KoS and have Ragebringer on 51 rogue, hope this helps someone
Edit: I left a lot of the easy things, out, but forgot to mention that I also MQ'd the Robe of the Kedge as well, so the MQ still does work as of 9/28/03
Edited, Sun Sep 28 22:46:38 2003
Grux EQ/FFXI
Gruxella EQ/WoW
Minitiki EQ
Daillan Shadowrunner
Halfling Rogue of the 51st season
servant of Bristlebane
tunare server
"Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" -Morphius
Edited, Thu Oct 9 10:33:39 2003
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=479760
Better than MQing it like I did and forking out 12.5k.
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Rogues do it from behind.
So a month later, all pround of myself, Innoruuks' Blade in my OWN hand, when a fellow brother rogue that wants to do PoH for his asked my help. "No prob!" i responded, and after about 10 minutes we got our wizzy and off we went, naked. Wizzy disbands, ports out, we H'nS faster than that begger at the bank picking up that Pile of Stinking Refuse, no prob. /who all....no one. true solo, or duo as fate would have it. cept i brought my Shiny Brass Idol this time, not really wanting to die if i didnt have to.
feeling pretty invulnerable at this point, i tell the fellow rogue to follow me up and down that stairway with Tom, Dick, and two Banshees.
WACK!! WACK!!, i hear and "NOoo!!...", ok now im all alone in PoH again. I turn around to see what happened and i see the poor rogues corpse at the base of the stairway on the other side from the ZoI point, closer to me since i had passed the Scorn Banshees and proceeded to the left and around that first bldg. without a problem. He was discovered and dispatched in under 2-3 seconds.
Darn it !! im thinkin'...
didnt want this to happen but it was a chance he was willing to take after i told him to worry basically only about the Aborrants and Scorn Banshees, since they have a chance to see thru our H'nS abilities.
Problem is, when i went to go /con the same Banshees, they were all KoS!! How did i live and he die ?? I'm still baffled about this.
Not to worry...i soon joined him in Death :/
A loathing Lich or something, looking like my Ex-gf, must have recognized me and violated me in ways i will never speak of.....basically cause that was a 1500hp Lifetap just b4 i clicked my Idol effect too late, then i sat there rooted watching a cleric of hate do a little tapdance on my head with his best DD spell no doubt.....LOADING PLEASE WAIT...funny thing is, i clicked my idol right after i heard the spell being cast, or so i thought, and had to sit there for 18 seconds of invulnerablilty to wear off b4 they finished the job :P
/stupidity off
Daillan Shadowrunner
Halfling Rogue of the 49th season
servant of Bristlbane
tunare server
"It's frustrating, i know...or are you afraid?" -Auron
52 rogue-retired
_________________________________________________retired player
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Rogues do it from behind.
~Bulkathos~
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?532444
Tebil Poizenpoint
'Punch and Pie'
Rogue of the Drinal Server
Edited, Mon Jul 28 04:32:43 2003
-Overlord
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=570996
Southern Legion
The Tribunal
Maelin Starpyre
Maelin Starpyre
Gatito 51 Beastlord
Hudu 61 Shaman
Edited, Wed Mar 26 08:53:06 2003
65 Beastlord Gatito Prestigo ( 0 aa how humor)
If I remember correctly, the book was handed in first, then I snuck on Yendar and handed him the note. Renux spawned, Dual Druid Kited, me, monk, wizard did the damage.
Doing this while 2 boxing or logging one character and logging the other on may be a problem.
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Rogues do it from behind.
65 Beastlord Gatito Prestigo ( 0 aa how humor)
Put all your gear in the bank except a sow potion and the portal stone. Find/ask/pay a 65 wizard who's LFG (or a guildie) to port you there. Before you port there, sow yourself. Give the wizzy the stone and let him or her port you to POH. When you zone in, immediatly sneak/hide and DO NOT SIT DOWN (sitting is dangerous in POH entry). The Wizzy immediatly casts a Nexus Translocate on you. The wizzy then ports out leaving you to go get the book. Put the Nexus TL acceptance window off to the top of your screen. Start heading for the book. Because the Nexus TL is instant, there is never any reason to die getting the Book of Souls. If you get agro, simply accept the TL to nexus, heal up and try again. It's really not hard at all. I've only died once using this method, but it was my own error and not the method's error that caused that.
Also, if you are not in a guild with a 60-65 Wizzy that is not scared of POH, then you will have some convincing to do. I've found it easiest to simply explain in detail what I need THEM to do. If you send a tell to a 65 Wizzy LFG and simply ask "Can you port me to POH" they will assume you are doing a raid and may not want to raid at that moment. So it's best to say "Can you port me to POH, TL me to Nexus and then you can port out and go about your merry way". Then most just are curious but agree. But it's always easier if you know a high level wizzy or are guilded.
This method is better than the raid method for two reasons that I can see. First, most raids on Hate will have several Rogues all wanting that book. So if your raid succeeds, and you do get the book, you still have to roll on it or whatever to get it. So the success rate is based a bit on luck when trying to raid for the book.
Secondly, if someone has recently gotten the book then you spend a lot of time raiding just for nothing.
The wizzy port/TL to nexus method is 100% safe from dying, and the only disadvantage is that it costs a bit for the hate stones. But really, it's well worth it.
There may be better methods that I'm not aware of, but this is a 100% safe method. I hope it helps someone.
NOTE: This is pre-revamp
Paradigm
Guild Leader
Reductio Ad Absurdum
Prexus
Edited, Mon Aug 18 01:55:55 2003
Same as above but purchase one of the insta-cast gate potions off vendors for 1k each.
Definately not a method for the faint of hearted or small pocketbook, but it's also free from failure as the potion is instant cast, just make a hotbutton out of it in your inventory.
Daillan Shadowrunner
Halfling Rogue of the 42nd season
Servant of Bristlebane
Tunare server
"Look not to others for knowledge, for this is your story too." -Auron
Upon entering, immediately sneak hide, get out of the building, and hand a right. You'll hit the wall, which is very near by. Make another right, and follow the wall basically the whole way. At this point you can use the map from eqatlas.com.
When I went, I made it, but the book wasn't there. I had to camp so my raise timer didn't drop down. Nothing was in the room with me at the time. I logged back in two hours later, no book, no mob.. the second time, book was there, as well as a mob that I'm surprised didn't see me. Anyway, once you grab the book, get your Cleric to raise you, and you're done with that step.
Just con *everything.* Liches will be your main problem. They can see invisible, but can't detect you when sneaking behind them. Other than that, I didn't come across anything that could see me.
Daillan Shadowrunner
Halfling Rogue of the 44th season
Servant of Bristlebane
tunare server
"You can take my land and you can take my money, but you'll never take my casinos!"
1. How do i get into neriak 3rd gate without having all those de's agro?ive heard about using the mask, but does it last through zoning?
2. My pp is 189 atm, if i get cought by either, could i make it to the zone line with sow?
Rogue of the 40th Season
servant of bristlebane
tunare server
"Size matters not!" -yoda
Edited, Sun Jun 22 13:03:33 2003
Xegony Server
Naline De'Praline
no fancy title
just a rogue of 59th season
ZEB SERVER
Edited, Fri Jan 24 10:38:26 2003
Krellian Stonesinger, 35 mage, Ayonae Ro
Jinantonx Ontharocs, 29 necro, Ayonae Ro
Mazilli, 22 SK, Ayonae Ro
Bankuma, 10 war, Tallon Zek
1) Can u apply poisins to a weapon with a effect?
2) When u apply a poisin is it a one time thing or does it last till u zone?
55 Sk
rathe server
Poisons last until you zone, camp, LD, or use them. Old World poisons have a one-shot effect, new PoP poisons have a proc-like effect for a given amount of time.
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Rogues do it from behind.
With that in mind, here's a few options. Prices might be out of your 5k range, but servers vary HEAVILY on prices, as you probably know.
Piercers
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Fester
Sebilite Croaking Dirk
Stone Bladed Edge
Crescent Blades of Luclin
Shadowy Dirk
If you wanna go with a 1hs,
1hs
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Bone Handled Scimitar
Jagged Blade of Mourning (good and very cheap)
Tae Ew Bloodletter's Sword
There's always more, but hey, there's a few good ideas.
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Rogues do it from behind.
That 10/18 should go offhand because in main, you won't do that much damage in your backstabs. Your backstab damage is a function of the weapons damage, (10 in this case, 15 in the case of the RB) so you would expect the ragebringer to backstab ROUGHLY 1.5x higher than the 10 damage.
In my case, I was using a 10/21 main before epic and hitting right near 300 for backstabs at level 54. After my 15/25 epic, I've been hitting in the mid 400s and I doubt I've hit my max yet.
Rogue weapons are a pain because of this backstab rule. We do NOT get any weapons above 16 damage because the backstab damage would just be too high and all the wizzy's would complain because we'd do more damage than their best DDs. For instance: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=16986
A 20/26 Piercer, but Rogues can't use it.
Bloodbath and Khalshazar are the only 16 damage ROGUE piercers out there. Ragebringer is one of about 14 others in the 15/x range.
OK, so here's the thing. Keep that Epic main until you find something with EQUAL damage that is faster 15/24, 15/23, whatever, OR find a 14 Damage piercer that is exceedingly faster (Windspeeder 14/18!) I can't think of any other reason to NOT use Ragebringer in main, except maybe if the weapon had an unstoppable beyond-cool proc?
The other reason is that you've got 2 weapons that are better than your epic AND you have another haste item that can match or exceed Seething Fury (such as Broken Drive Belt)
EDIT
New top dog rogue weapon http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17087 Dart of Immobility. Look for it in your dreams!
Edited, Wed Nov 13 23:06:30 2002
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Rogues do it from behind.
17 DAMAGE ROGUE PIERCER! Just found. I'm drooling...just wish I had the guild to go there and get that sucker.
Redeemed Rogue of the E.Marr Server
Audentês fortûna iuvat.
I was also lucky with the General and with Renux, Renux took a group and a half of friends to take down, could have done with one group probably or less, depending on your friends hehe, the General I just kept popping into Kith and seeing if a raid was going on and asking if i could join in, we killed the General 4 times in one game night for my hand in but no Quill, Phinny was a bit of a pain, but people are always doing him for the Wiz and Mage staffs so, you can sit in on his raids easily enough, the rest is just running around doing hand ins, killing a lot of greenie bandits to get villneous to spawn, be carefull you dont get too close to his PH or you will have to run to the zone to clear the aggro list, or face killing him and starting the cycle again.
I went half way through 50 with the xp from hand ins and killing Renux and the General.
Grimdal Shadowwalker
Rogue of the 51st Circle of Intrigue
Rodcet
65 Arch Lich
Druzzil Ro
Initiate to the 63rd Secret of Lord Bristlebane
Zebuxoruk Server
Vreen
Deceiver of the 65th Ring
Zebuxoruk Server
55 rogue Nadeana
Legacy of Steel leadership was suspended from EQ for using it. Here is a link to it:
http://pub35.ezboard.com/fthesafehouseloungegeneraldiscussion.showMessageRange?topicID=24975.topic&start=1&stop=20
EQ CHEATS ME, I CHEAT IT.
I used the Z-Exploit to successfully pick the note without putting myself or anyone else in more mortal danger. If I guide approached me and warned me for cheating, I would plead this case, and if he didn't have his head up his ass, he'd probably accept it.
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Rogues do it from behind.
Redeemed Rogue of the E.Marr Server
Audentês fortûna iuvat.
Turn sneak on and stand behind him when you're doing the picking. I dunno if it helps or not, but look at my track record.
Redeemed Rogue of the E.Marr Server
Audentês fortûna iuvat.
The General Dropped the QUILL for me !!!!!!! So i was able to turn it in Right away. I can't belive how much more freakin DPS I do but you Must get this epic. It is the Best in the Game!!!! (I'm only saying this cause I'm excited and partial cause I'm a rogue, no flames please)
Argetlam MacFly, I'm a HoE and damn proud of it!
(first of all it's man-whore...)
53 Barbarian Rogue
Tarew Marr
15 dmg, 40% haste, I have yet to see a better weapon for a rogue. that doesnt include a better weapon AND a better haste item.
People say cleric epic is better, I can find a damn few things better than cleric epic...remember the click effect is a spell clerics already get, the main plus is that its 0 mana.
also chanter epic people say is better but most melees prefer VoG and theres also a group version of the epic spell which pretty much trivializes it i guess.
so i think this is number 1, bard is second and mage is 3rd :)
CAR!!!!
FLAME ON!!!!
Willyj[:jester:]
perhaps its a dead threat, but sometime a new rogue came across (or at least a monk who will start a rogue perhaps) :D
@ Jerker the Charming
(don't know how to make a zitat, so i will just copy and paste)
you wrote:
No your right it is in fact the best epic in the game.
15 dmg, 40% haste, I have yet to see a better weapon for a rogue. that doesnt include a better weapon AND a better haste item.
Soooo ... whats about the Monk Epic ? The Fists of a Monk became, just if we wear the Epic to dmg 9 dly 16 (ratio 1,777). Rogue epic is dmg 15 dly 25 (ratio 1,666). So the ratio isn't to much apart.
Second is the 40% haste on the rogue epic. It's Item Haste, so it will not stack with any other item haste. Only with songs and spells (and do you always have a bard or an enchanter/shammy with you ?) :D
The monk epic has a 41% hast SONG. So we can have any haste item (also if its only the 11% belt in grimmling forrest, which will take you at lvl 50 about 1 hour to get it) and it will stack with our epic :D
Fazit, i think the monk epic still is a little bit better than the rogue epic.
The huge advance of the rogue epic is, that there arent many weapons out there, with have such a nice dmg for backstab.
But there are a lot of weapons, with a better ratio than our fists :)
But once again, the huge advantage of our (monk) epic is, we can use any weapon with a better ratio, and we still have the normal item haste AND the 40% song haste :)
so think again about it, if the rogue Epic is a better epic than the monk epic ;)
PS: you wrote you are looking for a better weapon than this (dmg 15 AND 40% haste). You will never find this, but it also make no sense to me, why you shouldn't use a 41% haste item and a dmg 16 piercer :)
You will not need your Epic than any more :D
cu,
lvl 70 Transcendent
Solusek Ro
www.protectorsofmoonglow.org
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=448579
When was the last time a raid was cancelled because the epic rogue couldn't make it.
When was the last time a raid was cancelled because the epic cleric couldn't make it.
To the average raid size force, a rogue with epic is a little extra damage. A cleric with epic is 2 hours less downtime if you wipe.
Nuff said
Question. How possible is it for a Rogue untwinked and not in a huge powerful guild to obtain this weapon by lvl 52?
Vanderath Dragula
LVL 40 Rogue
a) Book of Shadows - This is obtained by either joining a PoH raid OR getting a wizzie to port you up and go get it solo. Solo is the most dangerous way obviously, but if you take your time and get a good map, you will succeed. Just be sure to bring a Cazic Gate potion with you for a fast exit.
b) Renux - Only lvl 50 or so but she hits VERY HARD and VERY FAST! Can do it easily with a high group of 50's or 2 groups of low 50's. I have seen her slowed by a 54 chanter, but the chanter went oom trying.
c) General V'Ghera - This is the most difficult fight of the Rogue epic, but usually when a rogue is doing the General, they would welcome more rogues also doing theirs if you bring along a few useful friends.
Just a FYI though.. Stanos, who is the main character you interact with for the epic will not speak to you until you are level 50. You can begin to gather some items first (notes, book), but cannot really complete it till 50.
Turns out that General V'Ghera drops 2 pieces you need for the epic, one of them is always there and the other is a rare drop. if you don't get the rare piece, the Casik Quill(sp again, this is all off the top of my head), then you hafta do a subquest.
The subquest is that you have to collect 4 robes, the Robe of the Oracle, the Robe of Ishva, Shining Metallic Robe, and the Robe of the Kedge.
The first three are buyable, and are easy to have drop, but the last one drops off a mob in Kedge Keep named something like Phinigel Autropros or something wierd like that, he's a giant fish/man creature. He's deep in there and needs a raiding party to pull off.
I'm not too positive on the details and it's late so the names could be off by a bit so don't quote me, but other than that there are 3 and if you're unlucky, 4 parts that you have to do with a raid or atleast a group.
Good luck getting yours, I'm still FAR from mine, but I can feel it tugging at me.
Faiy Vallentine
The only 37 Bearded Lady Dorf Rogue
Real women don't need no shavin'
Edited, Sat Aug 17 00:38:38 2002
Fennin Ro
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Hope this helps.
After 6 different times attempting to PP the rogue master in Neriak, i can up empty handed and died my last try... Skill was at 192, so unfortunetly i have to wait for 200. <i guess> BTW i got the page from kaladim my first try with 190 skill. Hope this helps.
PS if you are caught stealing from the guy in neriak, aint no way your making it out.=P
Arcoz
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YAGAH
Vah-Shir Rogue
Quellious Realm
Pbandj Onwheat
54 rogue of Bristlebane
"Claw of Nagafen"
It is just a question of patience. But beware, the note is a lot harder to pick than junk stuff (at least that is my experiance), so just because you can pick him clean in 6 tries or son normally, you might well need 15 tries or so for note. I have picked that note 3 times and only have 180 in PP, so that is not a problem. Never needed more than 4 spawns for one note.
Anyways, what I did for Tani N'Mar was get teh /loc of him by standing right next to him, then I went onto the roof of the Rogue guild and went to that same /loc (except the 3rd #, obviously), keeping Tani targetted. Then I PPed away and got it after about 16 times mashing the hotkey. Now, this way is better because you can get away if he attacks you; DIRECTLY after you hit PickPocket each time, you con Tani. If he goes to Threatheningly, you run real fast to the zone. By DIRECTLY after, I mean you should almost make the click of you PP key and the click of teh "C" button on your keyboard sound as one. This is, IMO, the safest way to PP the Stained Parchment Bottom.
As for Founy, I suppose if you were real paranoid that he was going to attack you, you could go below him in the mines or something and have a TPer there with TL: Bind memmed and ready to go, and you could do sorta the same thing.
Good luck with your epic quest.
-Thommus Slighthand
Hobbit Thief of the 46th Vial
<Hand of Mana> THe Nameless Server
I had a Wizzy pull Tani to zone a few times for me, a complete stranger that risked his life for me and NO pay. He pulled Tani 3 times, almost dying once, and Tani kept disappearing and going back to his spawn, even if I hailed him 100 times. He's a total ass. He cheats me, I cheat him. I got the stupid note using this technique and was on my way.
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Rogues do it from behind.
This weapon does not proc anything.
Hope that helps
Regais Rumblebelly
Blackguard of Furious Pantaloons
Solusek Ro
wish me Skill
Kwixx 52 Rogue Xegony
Edited, Wed Jun 5 04:01:46 2002
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