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Dirk of Concealment  
 

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Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Piercing Atk Delay: 25
DMG: 9 Dmg Bonus: 33
Backstab DMG: 9
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +8 DEX: +5 AGI: +3 HP: +25 ENDUR: +10
SV DISEASE: +3 SV POISON: +3
WT: 2.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:1H Piercing
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:10 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:600
Lucy Entry By:Charliehorse
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 02:52:49
Page Updated:Mon Feb 19th, 2024

Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin


Average Price: 1,004pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 45

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This item is the result of a quest.
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Quest Name
Rogue Twilight Dirk


Zone(s) Found In:


Zone Name
Twilight Sea
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Uploaded November 27th, 2008
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if you wish
# Jul 24 2002 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
Reading some of the posts. I will say I honestly say this quest just isnt worth the time unless it will be a component in futre quests. IE original Rogue epic required a burning rapier. yeah the str agi and dex are nice the 25 hps are nice and 3 to 2 saves are also nice. However 25 hps just doesnt make it nice enought at level 45. this should be a level 20-30 quest item. you better off getting outright stamina items like a Centi LS which at level 60 will merit 32 hitpoits (4.2 hp per 1 stamina). Its to bad this wasnt a range item though. if it was at least more or if not most rogues would do the quest.
I mean come on VI rangers get some great bows for range stats. If you do so wish to quest go right ahead at least you can say I did that quest. Me personally if you looking for piercers under 1k get a crystalized spider fang for around 500-800pp on TM anyway and a walrus tooth which also boasts 6 stam.
RE: if you wish
# Nov 23 2002 at 2:50 PM Rating: Default
At level 60 you would be better off with the piercer......Rogue 1hs doesnt go as high as piercing......i think any rogue that uses 1hs over lvl 50 just for the stats is pretty ignorant
RE: if you wish
# Nov 23 2002 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
Yeah but its in the off hand it isn't going to matter as much, yes it does make a diff. I use 1hb 1hs and 1hp and i can usually get out more damgage with a good 1hb in my off hand. So your skill really applys to the primary hand. And yes im very well aware of the fact your 1hs and 1hb skills do affect how well you use the wepon of said type in off hand. Its just the simple fact that the wepon looks cool and gives nice stats.

i mean people are too critical. Some times my rogue uses a robe and dual weilds 1hbs ...... its just a game
this thing is junk
# Jul 06 2002 at 12:54 AM Rating: Default
this thing is junk at lvl 45, heck my NON-TWINKED lvl 19 rogue has better, sold a load of CB belts in GFay and bought a blood stained fang and netherbian ungus for about 70pp for the pair, dmg/delay is about the same and mine have less stats true...but either of those can be easily obtained around lvl 30. sure I'd trade mine for one of these...but hey I'm only lvl 19, at lvl 45, heck at lvl 30 I expect to have weapons FAR superior to this trinket, I wouldn't even bother going after this on a clean start server that didn't have a nice pool of people selling better stuff

and another thing...what the heck is the point of throwing +HP on such a "high lvl" rogue item? any rogue who tanks is dead anyway..probably along with the rest of his group too
RE: this thing is junk
# Jul 23 2002 at 3:59 AM Rating: Default
For one, name a rogue dagger non-ubah (like Ssra, ToV, VT, etc) that has +8str +dex +agi and +hp. Not very many that are good. Lets see, HP? Hmm, ever heard of AoE effects, or Riposite? Yes, you know nothing about weapons. Be quiet now.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 17 2003 at 1:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No you be quiet ... who cares about 5 dex and 3 agi ? the only thing nice about this weapon is the 8str and 8 str isnt that great OH YEAH and 25 uber hps .. wtf ? whats 25 hps gona do.. This weapon is a piece of crap !
RE: this thing is junk
# Dec 14 2002 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
Can't name a rogue weap that has those stats. But can name one that has 11/22 (bonus 5 makes it 16/22) and is one heck of a lot easier to obtain.

At lvl 40, do the whistler quest, for 500p and a little bit of time, you get a weapon for rogues only that rocks fairly well, and BS climbs up pretty good with it as well.

At lvl 41, my halfling rogue (not known for their STR) is getting BS's over 200pts damage now. Almost consistantly doing 140 to 180 bs on a regular basis with them 200s thrown in just to make him woot.
a waste of time?
# May 18 2002 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
anyone that think this weapon is a waste of time has a serious short sightedness, such as the one that compared it to his cyrstaline spear, first off see how it also says secondary, that means it can be used in your off hand too. secondly see how it says +25hp, what rogue wouldnt like a bit more hp. this IS NOT your uber "i'm a rogue that can solo" weapon, this IS you "dear god my group is dropping like flies around me and i need every hit point i can muster" weapon, i carry several daggers for offhand and range, most of which only get used in dire situations. and i would gladly add this one to my *******
a waste of time?
# May 18 2002 at 1:42 PM Rating: Default
anyone that think this weapon is a waste of time has a serious short sightedness, such as the one that compared it to his cyrstaline spear, first off see how it also says secondary, that means it can be used in your off hand too. secondly see how it says +25hp, what rogue wouldnt like a bit more hp. this IS NOT your uber "i'm a rogue that can solo" weapon, this IS you "dear god my group is dropping like flies around me and i need every hit point i can muster" weapon, i carry several daggers for offhand and range, most of which only get used in dire situations. and i would gladly add this one to my *******
Total Waste of Time????
# Apr 29 2002 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
Many of you might say this is a total waste of time....But instead of looking at the Damage and Delay look at the stats.....i mean 8 str, 5 dex, and 3 agi and others isnt that bad.....and wont be bad for side hand becuase dely doesnt matter as much as prim.....But then again this is all IMHO
RE: Total Waste of Time????
# May 18 2002 at 1:42 PM Rating: Default
anyone that think this weapon is a waste of time has a serious short sightedness, such as the one that compared it to his cyrstaline spear, first off see how it also says secondary, that means it can be used in your off hand too. secondly see how it says +25hp, what rogue wouldnt like a bit more hp. this IS NOT your uber "i'm a rogue that can solo" weapon, this IS you "dear god my group is dropping like flies around me and i need every hit point i can muster" weapon, i carry several daggers for offhand and range, most of which only get used in dire situations. and i would gladly add this one to my *******
weapon
# Apr 18 2002 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
all of you that twink the hell out of your rogue's might think this blows, but for a first time character this weapon is pretty damn sweet so you all can beat it
RE: weapon
# May 04 2002 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
"I am not twinked and at lvl 45 I still would never have touched these quests, drood. At that lvl I had a crystalline spear which is way better than this (and isn't even that great)"

--Darkdirk Cauldronborne, lvl 52 gnome/dark elf/iksar/erudite rogue
Disappointment
# Apr 11 2002 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
This is just ok. That's the problem, all the Luclin Armors are just OK. Stats are good on this, but by 45th level, you should have much better. I might do this in my spare time.
faster it needs to be
# Mar 26 2002 at 10:08 PM Rating: Default
I agree it is nice for stats but it would be nicer if faster......

http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=123259
bah
# Mar 24 2002 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
This dagger is generaly a waste of time. Some rogues I've seen somehow do not manage to get money, probably the ones that go for leveling realy quickly, and they don't have very nice weapons, but those that spend the extra 2 mins to go to a slower exp zone with money, or maybe spend a day or so in EC buying and selling stuffs can get much better. This would be great if you could stick it in ranged slot for the stats though. otherwise too slow
look at other weps
# Feb 14 2002 at 3:24 AM Rating: Default
Anyone notice that the twilight wizard staff has more damage, a better ratio and a damage bonus?
RE: look at other weps
# Apr 04 2003 at 4:46 PM Rating: Default
Indeed that wizard staff has a nice dmg bonus in the off chance a melee class could use, but seeing as it cant be wielded by non wizzies they will never get the chance to cash in on it. As for better ratio 2handers generally have better ratio/stats because ya lose the offhand stats. That being said wizzies meleeing is fun to see
RE: look at other weps
# Mar 05 2002 at 11:25 AM Rating: Default
The wizard staff is: 1st of all 2h blunt and 2nd the dammage bonus is lvl based, so quit saying crap about what others get and what you dont.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 06 2002 at 2:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey dork damage bonus isn't level based its stated clearly on the weapon. dmg bonus 31 but i do agree the poster before should stop whining.
RE: look at other weps
# Aug 16 2002 at 9:30 AM Rating: Excellent
Accually, I believe that they are based on both level AND dmg bonus.

Why they are based on lvl: The dmg bonus goes up as you lvl.

Why they are ALSO based on dly: the dmg bonus will be higher on the weapons that have a higher dly. (for example, at lvl 45, my paladin has a black acrylia halberd dly 49. the dmg bonus is 15ish. But to my 45 paladin, the dmg bonus on a crystalline spider fang with dly 22 is 6ish. Another example is the Weighted axe; it has a dly of 150, which is why the dmg bonus according to my 45 pally is 45ish)
RE: look at other weps
# Mar 06 2002 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
Damage bonus goes up with levels you moron
nice
# Feb 12 2002 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
This is a nice offhand weapon for you guys who whine about the shaded dagger go get a jagged ice shard =P hehe well anyway i would use this right now (lvl 35) im currently usen a Gold Plated whatchamacallit from naggy =) im not twinked someone gave it to me and for those of you who dont know its 9/25 dismiss summoned. this dagger beats that for normal fights. I dont know about all you other rogues but I look for str hp and dex in that order and this beauty has all 3 plus more =) Im in twilight right now and will have this dagger soon I hope hehe good luck and good hunting from Emarr
Eh..why this one..
# Jan 21 2002 at 8:40 PM Rating: Default
When you can go to Umbral Plains and nab this one?

Shaded Dagger
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM
Damage: 11
Delay: 22
Ratio: 2 Excellent
Magic Resist: +5 Fire Resist: -5 Cold Resist: +5 Poison Resist: +5 Disease Resist: +5
Weight: 5.0
Weapon Skill: Piercing
Classes: Necromancer Enchanter Magician Wizard Ranger Bard Rogue Warrior
Races: All Races
Inventory Slot: Either Melee



I mean, dirk of concealment..should have a right click effect of invis or something..
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Mar 26 2002 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
I didn't know the Shaded Dagger dropped in Umbral, I got mine in Acheva Ruins which seems an easier zone to those interested in trying to get one.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Jan 22 2002 at 2:34 AM Rating: Decent
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64 posts
This isnt THAT bad, but certainly wouldnt replace the 2 daggers my 35 rogue has. He has a crystaline spider fang in his main (10/22 +some stats) and a serrated bone dirk in his off hand for the proc mainly. That can change fairly easily.

Point is, for a rogue the base damage is the prime number for main hand, as backstabs are based around this. So why not get a cheap 10 point dagger and have that extra point? A slime coated harpoon goes for around 300 plat on The Rathe, and is 10/25. Stats arent as nice, but the damage is 1 point more.

Many 10 dam weapons easily available are better than this.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Mar 27 2002 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
Also. I think you're a bit confused. The Slimne Cuated Harpoon is yes, anywhere from 150-1k depending on your server, about 600-700 on Karana, but it is 10/25. How can 10/25 be better than a weapon that is 11/22? Could someone please answer me that one? It might cost 1k more. but you can get 1k in a week at level 30 easily. If you're fighting on Luclin already, just get the Twilight Quest Pieces, i.e. Marks and such, and sell them. they go for 150+ for me.
This might not be as good as a Cryastaline Spider Fang, my primary ATM. But it all depends. Do you want the same delay and 1 better damage, minus some primary stats but plus one damage and plus some saves? The proc aggro's a bit too much for my tasete wich is why I'm trying to trade mine and 200pp for a Shaded Dagger, but if you like being a meat shield Rogue, I'm not holding you back.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Mar 27 2002 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
I am really stupid, lol. I thought I was on the post for the Shaded Dagger. It was the other window, LOL. I couldn't understand you guys.
Sorry, please forgive me ).
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Jan 27 2002 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
Are you serious? Are you sure we are playing the same game here? A slime coated harpoon goes for 1k! CFS goes for much more! This dagger isn't all that bad at all considering the stat bonuses. Unfortunately by the time you reach 45 you should be equiping sometime better like the shaded dagger. And since this isn't a no-drop you could probably fetch a decent amount for it too. And while our backstabs are directly related to the dam we could always use the extra stats. Sheesh if stuff is that cheap and gear like this is brushed off, then I'm on the wrong server.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Jan 27 2002 at 7:17 AM Rating: Decent
Oops! Me bad! SCH only goes for 700-800 average.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Feb 01 2002 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
It depends on the server. On EMarr they got for 100-250 max
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Jan 22 2002 at 2:00 AM Rating: Decent
Maybe because the Umbral Plains are pretty dranned dangerous for a level 45?

These quests can be done by a small guild in their upper 30's to lower 40's... the Umbral Plains can't.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Mar 29 2002 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
shaded daggers drop in maiden's eye which at 45 isn't that hard to do. which btw is next to both umbral plains and ahkieva ruins. This is an decent off hand weapon. 8str 25 extra hps nothing to sneeze at. Wouldn't put this thing in my main hand as i have a 13/28 there now.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Jan 22 2002 at 10:58 PM Rating: Default
True, it could be
but honestly, you can buy stuff better for less effort. By 45, you should already be working on part of your epic anyway, and usually have it obtained as soon as you hit 50/51.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Jan 21 2002 at 8:59 PM Rating: Decent
45 posts
I was kinda expecting a bonus to hide or sneak with this item. Still nothing to sneeze at.
RE: Eh..why this one..
# Jan 21 2002 at 9:17 PM Rating: Default
Agreed... seems it should.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 21 2002 at 6:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well well, it appears i have the first word here.
RE: woot
# Jan 22 2002 at 12:20 PM Rating: Default
25 posts
And you wasted it. Grats
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