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WT: 0.1 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
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Item Type:Combinable
Stackable:1000
Merchant Value:150 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
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Expansion: Scars of Velious Scars of Velious


Average Price: 100pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 50

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Forbidding Gargoyle
# Jun 29 2009 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
just pick pocketed from Forbidding Gargoyle in Sleeper's
mob drop info
# Oct 31 2006 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Nerfed the MQ
# Jun 05 2006 at 12:17 AM Rating: Decent
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This quest can no longer be multi-quested. The cleric is now a proud owner of a no drop shaman tunic :/
Well here it is............
# Sep 29 2003 at 11:59 AM Rating: Excellent
Hope this helps someone , I looted a black marble off a swordfish while tryin ta get tooth fer 7th shawl. think 2 or 3 dropped actually, This is since the revamp of SG.
RE: Well here it is............
# Jan 21 2006 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
Confirmed, I looted one off of "a swordfish" in Siren's Grotto a few minutes ago.

Bought two more out of the bazaar, had the tunic out of Kael, and did the turn in for the druid BP. Then did the turn in for the Grand Robe of the Oracle! So thank you for the info monkeyflea!
Short-and-sweet Velious Quest Gem List
# Sep 03 2002 at 9:08 AM Rating: Excellent
Short-and-sweet Velious Quest Gem List

Melee - Warrior, Rogue, Monk, Ranger, Shadowknight, Paladin, Bard
Priest - Cleric, Druid, Shaman
Caster - Wizard, Enchanter, Mage

Black Marble - Priest Breastplate
Chipped Onyx Sapphire - Priest Legs
Crushed Black Marble - Melee Boots
Crushed Coral - Melee Helmet
Crushed Flame Emerald - Melee Bracer, Priest Boots
Crushed Flame Opal - Caster Helm
Crushed Jaundice Gem - Caster Boots
Crushed Lava Ruby - Priest Gloves
Crushed Onyx Sapphire - Priest Helm, Caster Bracer
Crushed Opal - Priest Bracer
Crushed Topaz - Melee Gloves, Caster Gloves
Flawed Emerald - Melee Arms
Flawed Sea Sapphire - Melee Legs
Flawed Topaz - Caster Arms
Flawless Diamond - Melee Breastplate
Jaundiced Gem - Priest Arms
Nephrite - Caster legs
Pristine Emerald - Caster Breastplate

Velious Quest Gem Links:

http://www.crimsonlegacy.org/VelArmorGuide/va_guide.htm
http://www.geocities.com/nikkye1/veliousquestgems.html
http://www.geocities.com/derxus/gems.html

Source material from Spring 2002
RE: Short-and-sweet Velious Quest Gem List
# May 24 2003 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
Beastlords??
Unadorned Armor Peices
# Jan 20 2002 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
Ok I've looked all over so many websites and they cant answer me these simple questions, are the unadorned armor peices NO DROP or not? And who SPECIFICALLY in TOV do they drop off of?
RE: Unadorned Armor Peices
# Jan 28 2002 at 2:04 AM Rating: Good
46 posts
Everything drops by various mobs randomly in West Wing of ToV (HoT = Halls of Testing). So if you realized that sometimes also you see drops coming in waves one after the other. That mean VI implemented a random drop rate in ToV. Yes all Unadorned pieces are no-drop. Look Alla Khazam's under Quests - By Zone - Skyshrine. You got them all there. Remember as well that this kind of gear can be also MQ and that the minimum required faction is Ally to CoV.

Edited, Mon Jan 28 01:17:33 2002
thank you Beaon
# Dec 21 2001 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
Well i read all of the posts about this so far and a couple of people still keep asking about whether to get crushed or chipped. PLEASE read beaons post called newB's it is very useful. If you still don't get it by reading beaon's post, that explains everything u need to know about the black marbles, then don't bother doing the quest if u can't understand it even when the answers are given to you right here.
newB's
# Nov 13 2001 at 7:09 PM Rating: Excellent
****************** READ THIS POST ***************

First off i would just like to say WOW i never seen so many newB's in my entire EQ life =).

Ok so im gunna help you all out~
If you see on this page a post called "The Skinny on the BP" he has it down pls read all the posts before you comment on not knowing or messing up the quest. Many people have already clarified what to do but most of you dont take the time to research and just hope someone will respond. Read pls =)

Ok here is how it works

3 MAIN factions in vellious
Dwarves (Coldain)
Giants (Kromzek Kromiff ect..)
Dragons (CoV or Claws of Veeshan faction)

All 3 factions have armor quests for all class for 8 armor spots.
Head, BP, Legs, Vambraces, (2)Bracer, Guants, boots,

Over all Dwarven armor has the least best stats out of the three. To get dwarven armo GO TO THE NPC THAT ISSUES THAT QUEST. THAT NPC WILL GIVE YOU **ALL** THE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW!
Basically you need different gems depending on the peice and its always 3 gems that must go with the peice you are using. Gems can be used from class to class there are really 3 main catagory of gems.
Preists, Melee, Pure casters
Keep in mind some of the gems are used for both of those catagory's for different armor peices.
For example Crushed flame emerald can be used for questing priest boots and or melee bracers.
priest classes are all WIS casters
Melee is all melee
Pure casters are INT casters.

So for each armor peice you need 3 gems plus a specific quest armor peice. For coldain armor you need to go to the Arena in Kael Drakkul and there you will find the quest armor you need.
Killing in Kael will result in a increase in COldain faction AND an increase in Dragon faction.

There is still a huge debate over which of these two factions quest for the best armor. Kael(Giants), or SkyShrine(dragons).

Basically it all comes down to this. Kael armor has more ac then SkyShrine armor. BUT! Skyshrine armor has on average 200-300 more stats total not counting weight. With dragon armor you will see more resists, more sta dex, agi and stats in general. So its your choice mainly between stats and or AC.

Before you go off and start preaching about how AC is Sooooo important keep a few things in mind before you choose your faction.

1. To defeat MOST (not all just most) of the highest level major mobs in the game YOU WILL REQUIRE RESISTS. What good is AC if your already dead from a 1500pt lifetap aoe that the mob castss every 5 secs? You need resist gear. Secondly Skyshrine armor in general gives more AGI STA and MUCH more HP then kael armor does. SO before you run off thinking AC is going to let you own this game, you might have alot of AC but with skyshrine armor you will have more agi so the mob has less chance of it hitting you, you will have more sta more HP so you can take more hits, and over all you will get more +hp. As for casters its a easy pic For casters skyshrine is way better then any kael armor. Especially for preist classes. Skyshrine armor for casters on avereage has 200-300 more stats then kael armor does, but meelee only has 100-200 more stats over kael.

So is AC important ? YES
Is it so important that all your armor should be focused ONLY on AC? Thats your descision, in my opinion no. Generally with ALL your stats being raised you will become a better player, as apposed to focusing only on 1 stat.

Overall unless your a priest class the choice really isnt that bad, kael armor and or SS armor is both good and is both the best armor in the game (excluding PoM armor quests which are so rediculously long its not worth it).

BUT if your a priest class it is very obvious that SS armor is fair supior over kael armor.

Ok back to how to get it

IF your on giant faction that meens your friends will be the GIANTS in KAEL DRAKKEL. Just like dwarven armor you need 3 gems plus a quest armor peice. The gems are all the same for all factions only difference is the class. Now to get the quest armor peices for kael you need to hunt in the WEST wing of Temple of Veeshan there your armor will drop. You will be KOS to all mobs in TOV so you will have to fight in.

Skyshrine fac, ok dragon lovers here is what you need.
First you need the gems like the other 2 factions and then you need your quest armor.

note: Some people will have you beleive if you folow dragon faction you will not be able to kill dragons. This is highly false
TO get the quest armor peices for skyshrine (dragon lovers)You also need to go to Temple of Veeshan BUT you must only hunt in the EAST wing (note: the quest dragon npc calls it "The Halls of Testing")
BY hunting in the EAST WING ONLY you will not loose ANY faction hits against Claws of Veeshan faction or SS faction. Also you will be NOT be kos to zone in mobs the entire south hall and the entire west hall. As for the east hall you fight in you will be KOS but loose no faction hits. IF you kill in the North Wing (hardest wing) you will loose faction hits sorry guyz (this does not meen you cannot fight in the Nwing if your guild is on dragon fac ill explain ina few dragon lovers)

a few nots to keep in mind:
There is a huge beleif that if you follow dragon fac you cannot do uber sections of ToV like NWING or kill any dragon vellious mobs. This is also false there is a term called "Juggaling your Faction". IF your guild is disciplined enough you can succesfully kill in the Nwing of TOV or kill dragons in WW or any where else in vellious (even tho you will loose faction) you can succesfully make it all back. The best way to do this is to have your raid or whatever for example have your guild clear Nwing of ToV and you will prolly be KOS by the end of the day oh well. Then you can have a few more raids in Kael Drakkel all day, (1) one you can farm dwarven aromr for the lesser ones in the guild who dont have dragon armor yet
(2) you can kill the named big giants behind the arena, Tormax, AOW, ect... there is just as much to do in Kael as there is in ToV =)

Is juggaling your guilds faction easy? hell no but it will get you everything you want. ALSO KEEP IN MIND DRAGON LOVERS the East wing ( or Halls of Testing) has its fair share of named dragons who drop loot just as incredible as the Nwing or Wing does. Were talking melee 2hs weapons with damages way higher then its delay.

OK finally What the heck is a Black marble for no one will tell me?

LISTEN NOW PLEASE THIS IS YOUR ANSWER.

"BLACK MARBLE" IS USED FOR ***PREIST CLASS*** BREAST PLATE QUEST ONLY!

(preist class are only WIS casters or:
druids, shamans, clerics)

crushed black marble IS NOT
IS NOT
IS NOT
IS NOT used for preist class BP quest.

Crushed black marble is the melee class boot quest gem ONLY.

CHIPPED BLACK MARBLE IS NOT
IS NOT
(yes im gunna keep doing this for all the kindergharten ppl out there)
IS NOT used for preist class BP QUEST.

Chippled black marble is a cash gem sell it to vendor. ( if it even exisists i dont pay atttention to cash gems and what they are called)

For the Priest class Breast Plate quest you need ONLY
Three Black Marbles

That is not

like the post above me said,
NOt crushed, not chipped, not sliced, not diced, not polished, not hammered, not nothing
ONLY
( lets see if you can get this hard one folks)



BLACK MARBLE



wow who woulda guessed its actually just called "black marble"

Now if you STILL DONT understand please finish kindergharten and learn how to add before you play EQ =)

thanks all i hope i helped
RE: newB's
# Jul 10 2002 at 7:45 PM Rating: Default
ok ok i see it celars one thing but i have one thing u didnt mention.. when the guy asks for 3 piieces of balck marble.. (for the duird bp) is it (3) pieces of black barble or is it just three black marbles?

(excuse the speling im a ex ogre)

Edited, Wed Jul 10 20:36:50 2002
RE: newB's
# May 23 2002 at 2:28 AM Rating: Default
Thank you, I appreciate your post, as i t cleared up alot for me......
By the way, I WAS held back in kindergarten, zat count? ;)

Trem
RDK
Torvo
gem locations
# Nov 06 2001 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
we usually get a couple black marbles every time we kill the chetari rats in dragon necropolis. seen a few drop in SG deep inside, but i think dragon necropolis is a lot more fun with 1-2 groups and has better multi-class loot than SG.

black marbles have really come down in market price too. they used to be around 8k a pop, but noy you can usually get 3 of them for around 7k altogether.

Black Marble
# Jun 12 2001 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
I may be reading the order of these wrong here.

Someone posted at the top saying black marbles dropped everyewhere including specs in Oasis.

These are "A Black Pearl".

You are not after "A black marble" as in a child's toy.

You are after "Black Marble" as in a piece of a rock type - specifically marble which is black in colour.

If I have the order messed up (and the top is not the most recent, but rather the earliest). Then feel free to ignore this post.
Finally...
# May 29 2001 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, after weeks of searching, I've seen 1 drop off of a Crystal Destroyer in Velks - our group killed 3 of these badasses with many a casualty ourselves.

1 down.. 2 to go :( I have the Kael dropped tunic for my druid - and I'm getting mighty restless.

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6043
Deadmann
# May 17 2001 at 9:18 PM Rating: Default
I have been camping the GEO's in the Crystal Caverns for over a week. Have NOT see any CRUSHED anything. All I have seen is Chipped. Great cash for the chipped Diamond,Saph,Ruby,Emeral Etc but nothing that portrains to the quest items. Geos maybe in the WL like the level 45 plus Shammy ones but I personally have NOT seen any quest gems in CC.
RE: Deadmann
# Jan 04 2003 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
correct geonids in CC drop only chipped gems, a few are usuable for tradeskills (they are not general standard items as listed on eqtraders but i've found something on this site) but most are not; yet they generate nice amounts of money when sold to vendors. (Get some opal crusted steins they are worth the money if you camp geonids and sell to vendors)
In WL the geonids drop imperfect crushed etc. etc. But those geos are a pain 8k hp and high FR CR so basically dotting them down with Magic based spells is all this dru can do. Or taking a warrior and let him beat up the geonids with a journeyman's walkingstick (tashani effect on it) Or take your personal chanter with you for clarity and tashani.

Some of the gems in WL are also used for quests very easy to recognise these since they are no drop. Downside is that they require some jewelry skills for those quests.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 17 2001 at 1:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Black marbles drop all over the old world(like off spectres in Oasis) and kunark, and sell to vendors for like 16 plat. They also drop from geonids in Crystal Caverns in Velious, and they're not high mobs. This web site right here lists their rarity as "junk."
#REDACTED, Posted: May 17 2001 at 9:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Must be mistaken in the name. You could be referring to a black PEARL.
mm k
# May 16 2001 at 3:31 PM Rating: Default
for the thurgadin quest, and I am a cleric, so I need Corroded Bp from Kael off Giants? 3 pieces of black marble found in Velketor's Labyrinth or Dragon Necropolis? Did i miss anything? I just love easter egg hunts. So, could someone tell me if i am right before i go on suicide mission?\
thanks
Kadeka Phoenixphyre
46th Cleric of Brell Serilis
E'ci Server
geonids drop black marble
# May 14 2001 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
got plain black marble off geonids..also other crushed gems too..spells and misc jewelery too
RE: geonids drop black marble
# Jul 12 2001 at 10:33 AM Rating: Excellent
different poster here, but to let readers know the place, it is geonids in wakening lands, in cave to left of druid ring. (with back to wall, opposite direc of kael) hope this helps
RE: geonids drop black marble
# Aug 11 2001 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
I hate it people call it a druid ring when it's a port for wizards also. My server calls them Dragon Rings. BTW, I'm a druid.
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 22 2001 at 5:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) because druis are better than smelly greedy wizards =P
Velious Armor
# May 05 2001 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
Has anyone pulled this quest off. If so please clear all of this up. Thanks
Stop Bitching
# Apr 21 2001 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
Okay, this page is for the black Marble. They are used in many many quests. So the item you say you need but someone says they need diff one...well you are all right. We are not talking about one peticular quest here people. This is used in all of them. So stop ******** that someone else is wrong when they arent.
FOUND!!
# Mar 26 2001 at 9:35 PM Rating: Default
found black marble on rat men in Dragon Necropolis. Don't bother trying to go to DN without a full group of 57+ minimum. This Isnt Guk.
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 27 2001 at 5:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WHAT THE HELL!!!
Black marble drop info here
# Mar 14 2001 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
Black marble is needed for the Thurgadin, Kael, and Skyshrine quest armor. It requires corroded armor (Thurgadin), ancient tarnished (Kael), and erroded (Skyshrine). I don't know why Ancient tarnished BP or Corroded is being posted here, this should be about the black marble.

Anyway, ancient tarnished armor drops in Temple of Veeshan. Corroded drops in Kael at the arena. Black marble drops in Dragon Necropolis from rats, Sirens Grotto from siren seductress, and Velketors Labyrinth from Velk and Dolkin area.
RE: Black marble drop info here
# Mar 17 2001 at 2:21 PM Rating: Default
You said Siren Seductresses drop this in Sirens Grotto, does it also drop off the Siren Seductresses in Cobalt Scar?
Ancient Tarnished found where?
# Feb 27 2001 at 1:10 PM Rating: Default
Let me understand this: There is "crushed black marble," "piece of black marble," and "chipped black marble." There is "ancient tarnished BP" and "corroded BP". Someone is sure to ***** this quest up.

The way i see it, the corroded is for the quests in Thurgadin and the ancient tarnished is used in the quests at Kael. As far as the marble, I am still uncertain. But i would like to know where the ancient tarnished BP was or is found.

Thank you
RE: Ancient Tarnished found where?
# Aug 25 2001 at 12:14 AM Rating: Decent
if you ***** this quest up then you need to go back to newbie 101, cause anybody with the ability to attain these items aught to be smart enough to make SURE that they are doing the right thing before even thinking of turning these items in... however, just like a how warnings got put on labels, someone must have done it.
RE: Ancient Tarnished found where?
# Jul 12 2001 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
lol, while i didnt post the previous posts, i did happen to understand them. the "ancient tarnished" should have been "ancient, or tarnished." punctuation helps a lot here to avoid confusion. The ancient is leather armor for druid and monk, the tarnished is for diff class. (sorry im druid, dunno what the heck class tarnished for and wont guess, less i get flamed, hehe) They both are for Kael quest armor, and drops in Temple of Veeshan of any mob, tho all the mob may/may not drop any kind of quest piece, being silk, plate, chain, and leather. west wing dragons tend to drop more than one piece (up to 8, according to guildie) tho my guild pulled 2 by accident and got wiped, tho luckily 2 cleric camped in time to do CR. (35 ppl, 52-60 lvl range, mostly 58-60) Aoe's were rain type spell, 200dmg then 300dmg, and proc'ed very often. and funny enough, these were the smaller dragons from that wing. good night tho. got 28 pieces of armor, 6hrs hunt, excluding guild gathering, and CR. hope this post help. (i know not about black marble, but see lotta armor related question here)
The skinny on the BP
# Apr 04 2001 at 12:17 AM Rating: Excellent
Ok. The BP that drops in KAEL for questing to the guy in THURGADIN is a corroded bp.


You need black marble. Not crushed, not chipped, smashed sliced or diced. Just plain black marble. 3 of them. 8) They dropp off of 50+ mobs in Velketor's Labyrinth or in Dragon Necropolis.

I have had my corroded bp for several weeks now, and after a couple of guild hunts, still no sign of black marble. It's *hard* to get because this Bp rocks.

Just FYI. Check out EQ-Cleric, people post about this stuff all the time. 8)
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 04 2001 at 10:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you are wrong the corroded bp is for melee bp ...the one we need is eroded leather tunic +3 black marble for Thurgadin druid quest tunic!!
Info on Corroded Posted Here
# Feb 26 2001 at 9:01 PM Rating: Good
All Corrodded/Erroded armor drops in Kael Drakkal near the arena area. Highest drop rates were off of the Veterans, each time we killed a Veteran they dropped a piece or more.
VZ
Crushed
# Feb 24 2001 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
I found Crushed Black Marble also, not sure if this is the right stuff or not.
RE: Crushed
# Mar 09 2001 at 12:16 AM Rating: Default
No, this is for one of the paladin's armour.
Chipped Black Marble
# Feb 05 2001 at 2:32 PM Rating: Default
Is Chipped Black Marble the type need for this? I have found Chipped Black marble but not plan black marble.
Black marble drop
# Jan 21 2001 at 7:05 PM Rating: Default
Black marble drops some creatures in Velketor's Labyrinth. Only peices i saw that dropped were near his castle.
RE: Black marble drop
# Jan 24 2001 at 3:28 PM Rating: Default
Do you remember what exactly mobs drop them? Been looking for them couple weeks to finish my bp. Thanks for the info.
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 27 2001 at 12:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 25 2001 at 11:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you are finishing your quest, where is the coroded bp found?
Corroded Plate Armor drops..
# Mar 04 2001 at 9:28 AM Rating: Default
Corroded Plate Armor pieces are dropped in Kael Drakkel. Have seen boots and bracers drop while I was there. Boots seem to be the more frequent drop. It seems like the Veterans are the ones dropping the corroded.
Corroded stuff
# Dec 19 2000 at 12:13 PM Rating: Default
Where is all this corroded stuff found?
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 21 2001 at 9:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Re: corruded stuff: In the quest posting it stated eroded, not corruded. I too would be interested in knowing where this drops.
RE: Corroded stuff
# Feb 26 2001 at 12:44 AM Rating: Default
My guild was killing giants in Kael this evening and had Corroded BP drop off bout lvl 50 storm giant. I was ld at time and didnt catch his name but it was Lt somthing or other
Black Marble
# Jan 15 2001 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
Where does the Black Marble drop?
RE: Black Marble
# Apr 02 2001 at 5:29 PM Rating: Default
This is probably a stupid question,but are black marbles No Drop?
RE: Black Marble
# Jul 21 2002 at 12:26 AM Rating: Decent
nope.
RE: Corroded stuff
# Dec 28 2000 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
It drops off of a frost giant in their city.
RE: Corroded stuff
# Dec 28 2000 at 9:25 PM Rating: Default
I was told it dropped deep in Kael, on the high 40's mid 50's mobs. If you find any info on this please post here. I would like to find where exactly the gems drop also.

RE: Corroded stuff
# Jan 17 2001 at 10:53 PM Rating: Default
The armor from the giants and the gems is a different quest, these are for the items that drop in skyshrine I assume.
RE: Corroded stuff
# Jan 22 2001 at 7:31 AM Rating: Default
Well yes these are Skyshrine quests so you dont need coroded, you need unadorned but I have no idea where this stuff drops =-(
RE: Corroded stuff
# Feb 28 2001 at 7:11 AM Rating: Default
First of all It's Eroded not Corroded ..best place to find it is the Arena in Kael ..high lvl mobs..bring friends ) ...Crushed Marble is what your looking for .I've seen the "Suits of Sentinent Armor" drop them in Wakening ..rare drops though. these parts are for the Thurgadin quest.
RE: Corroded stuff
# Mar 06 2001 at 5:18 AM Rating: Default
Actually it *is* Corroded for the Shaman quest.

If you check, some classes need Corroded, some need Erroded.
RE: Corroded stuff
# Mar 06 2001 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
just to clear some stuff up...
3 quests:
-Thurgadin
-Kael Drakkal
-Skyshrine
(please excuse any typos/"sorry i don't know how to spell these new cities yet" errors)

each requires DIFFERENT stuff. stop arguing (atleast i think ur arguing) about what's needed.

plz thx
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