Ok, so i went to CoM and spent 7 hrs clearing the zone repeatedly, going up into the towers, catwalks, etc-no luck. I had heard they only drop from the "ghost" models in the zone,so i tried that for a bit, only killing the ghosts, and nothing. Made a ton of cash though, between the gem and defiant drops, so i bought the one that was on sale in the bazaar for 2k:)
I was slaughtering mobs in CoM last night, and a Master Wu's Trance Stick dropped off of a wraith (City of Mist). The wraith was up the little water area between the pyramid and the stables.
i found that an easy way to raise 1hb with a monk when it is low and you are lvl 28 is to equip two of these and go to hhk...when you get into a group just start killing everything in sight...as long as you keep hitting them you will lvl 1hb fairly quickly...you will miss early in the beginning of the ordeal but dont get discouraged it will change
i got my monks 1hb from around 16 to 140 in a matter of an hour or so...now i just need to get to 35 to get the procs to go off...keep getting the message "Your will is not sufficient enough to command this weapon"....i get about 3-4 of them in less than a minute in each battle...and a total of around 20 per battle...now if i could just get it to proc i would own almost all the things i go against
#Greenie,
Posted:Sep 01 2003 at 7:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LoL I just bought one of these for my Human Monk lvl 14 he is going to be awesome :))Is there a lvl Requirement for this Focus effect?I got it for 900pp!
#Yevun,
Posted:Feb 14 2003 at 4:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) so i bought one for 700pp an then resold for 1.5k lol so wus yer point =P btw this proced alot for me but i had on my toon i am lvling just made him an it said i couldn't proc it but it proce about 2 times a fight. well the unable to weild message at least lol
#necrro,
Posted:Nov 12 2002 at 8:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok first of all no one can out dmg a wizzy they are the highest dmg classes in the game as they should be. there is no point in being a wizzy pretty much less u can blow a mob off the face of norrath. next, How long do u have to wait to get these i have camped CoM for like 2 months killing every ghost i see and they havent droped, ive also killed preetty much every other mob too so if any one has any info on drop rate or u wanna sell one on thollex palles just give me a call
A wizard is unequalled in ability to "burn a mob down." Namely, if something bad's going down, and everyone's panicking, wizzy chain casts nukes and blows the $&#*er up. Nobody else can do it like we can.
In terms of prolonged damage (ie the amount of damage dealt over time for long fights, like xping in the Planes of Power) wizards, rangers, rogues, mages and monks will juggle the 1st place prize depending on AA skills, equipment, luck, buffs, etc, etc.
I'm not gonna be one of those people who says one class is "better" than another overall, because that's not true of any class.
Wizzies are unequalled in fast, hard, furious DPS. I've clocked some insane DPS in fights using a log parser and the level 61 Tears of Ro in conjunction with Draught of Ice (don't have Draught of Ro yet, DPS would be even crazier with that.) But, I burn mana fast if I do it that way.
Funny note... Tears of Ro can be "cheated" on the recast time. Have an insta-click item of some kind hotkeyed. Cast Tears of Ro. Click the insta-click item. Tears of Ro is refreshed ;)
*ducks under the nerf bat*
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#Pongu,
Posted:Nov 16 2002 at 6:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Your information is as useless as your presence, how dare you choose to comment in my presence, especially sounding like the idiot that you are. Did you beg my permission to make your self sound like an idiot? Not!!
Yes I can quite agree that wizards are truely the masters of doing the most damage in the least amount of time. But that isn't everything. Wizards can outdamage any class whenever they have all that mana stored up. Rangers, Rogues, and Monks are constantly meleeing every creature that gets pulled and are each outdamaging the wizzy over the long run. Rogues and very good Monks I say do the most damage overall. Sure Rangers will outdamage them when using bow disciplines, and Wizards will outdamage them all when they have enough mana.
#Gilthoniel,
Posted:Aug 18 2002 at 7:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Bought got 600pp on AB server today in the bazaar. Gave to my lvl 5 ikky monk along with a CoT and full set of wu's armour get buffed from a lvl 47 druid. Went to kiling in the pit against red and yelow and this staff rocked. In less than 1 hour i hit lvl 10. Now off to paludal i think hehe.
#injekcionz,
Posted:Aug 14 2002 at 6:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) im pumin wu in main and SoS in secondayr . doin 83dd
Well I personally like the combo i am using on my 41 Iksar monk. He is using Wu's and FoR. Both are same dmg/delay (7/18) I like it because it keeps my h2h and 1hb maxed out and gives me time to practice my 2hb with my Wu's Quivering Staff (23/28). These are all enhanced with my FBSS.
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#Cithaazz,
Posted:Jul 10 2002 at 7:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hey all i Bought One of these today for 800pp and i hate it when it says "Your will is not signicant to use this weapon i want the PPL who made the game to Change tghe proc to lvl 20
#Moglaji,
Posted:Jun 06 2002 at 8:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If anyone is selling one of these on Tholuxe Paells server pls post or send a tell in game, names are: Moglaji, Varkan, Clarityy
to Test this theory My friend and I Same lvl with almost identicle gear decided to duel each other KD/KD vs WU/WU...I must say He got me down to 10hp he still had half his health and our skilz are exaclty the same as well...nough said ehee.
In my opinion These Wu stix are just plain booty. I just lvl'd 35 and i have a dex of 154 geared up. In my first 5 fight with this thing it procd like 3times. Since then maybe once or twice every 3 fights if im lucky and to top it all off sometimes it procd for minimal dmg like 5's and 10's. IMO this thing just plain out stinks. I cant wait to get rid of it and get something better.
Any other quick and easy ways a 28 monk could raise their dexterity? spending about 1kpp at max though. Can i get a link on a few good monk dex items that arent too expensive? thanx
Well if you don't mind taking a faction hit(negative League of Antonican Bards, Knights of Truth, Guards of Qeynos; positive Mayong Mistmoore and Ring of Scale. Not that bad a faction hit though if you only do it once.), go kill Jasmine in the Port Authority in East Freeport; she drops seawind necklace, and that's 15 dexterity for free (also 10 cold and fire resist). Player made black pearl and star ruby jewelry shouldn't set you back too much either. Find a jeweler; 1k should be plenty for a couple pieces of good dex gear.
If you get more money to throw around, look at the acrylia studded or acrylia reinforced armor, several pieces add to dexterity.
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I read all these posts, then log in, play in DL, CoM, TT, and all these other zones, and notice something. Most people who play monks have a serious problem. I say most because I play one, and never seem to have this problem I am about to discuss. The problem is that once you break the 40th level barrier you run into mobs that can double for 100+, and to a monk this is bad news. I have tried every single weapon combo feasible and have noticed that when I am DW anything, and I mean anything that mana consumption for healing my monk alone is very inefficient. Solution, 2hb, now why am I putting this on the Trance Stick post? Because I have used them, double, single with fist, with JM, with SoS, you name it. Here is why I suggest 2hb... It makes chain-pulling smoother, and what is everyone in the game after?...levels...regardless of your damage output it boils down to levels, and the way to level is get into an area with plentiful mobs and chain them until your cleric passes out. While dualwielding monks attract unwanted attention, and now you say "So FD!"...here is my answer to that, no don't attract that attention in the first place. Once I hit 42 my h2h and 1hb were above 200, well I decided to continue instead with focusing on 2hb. I noticed that I could now solo blues, because I was hitting alot harder, at 42, with buffs in group I was hitting doubles for 120+, sometimes I had to FD, but almost immediately aggro was reacquired by the tank and I jumped back up and dropped another 500 or so on the mob before I had to hit the dirt again. Why was the Exquisite Velium Brawl Stick made? For some roody-poo Warrior or maybe a cleric, no IT WAS MADE FOR A MONK. A test of this theory is to look at the 2hb weaps available to monks, then figure in the damage bonus, like I said with a stinking Baton of Faith I was doubling for 120+. Learn to play a monk CORRECTLY before posting some idiocy that you fantasized up. Trance is a great weapon, if and only if, you find yourself in one of 2 situations...1 You get one to drop and you are using your hands only, and 2 If you are playing anything other than a monk and get one to drop while in a cash deficit. And I will put my theory to the test on TP server anytime with a duel, you hit me 6 times for 7-30 with a lucky proc in there and I hit you 3 times for 300+, trust me you WILL run for zone, unless of course you like the solitude of a Corpse Run. Hehe, and this ain't even a flame, just the facts ma'am, just the facts.
I have not played in 7 months but I have a lvl 53 monk. I had 2 wu sticks on him since he was aprrox. lvl 40 ish. I have used KD and jade Mace and various other weapons. I dont break down all the ratio to this and ratio to that, and I am not saying anyone is wrong, what works best for you so be it. Bit I loved the wu sticks. For one the weight on em is good, 2nd, they are fast, and 3rd, if you have good dexeterity, which I did, and you soloed alot, which I did, I easily averaged 3 to 5 procs PER STICK in a fight. That adds up big time, it was almost like having another person fighting along side me. I did use fbss for awhile and eventually I moved up to SCH for my haste item, but I experimented many times, comparing other weapons such as the jade mace and KD to my Wu sticks. And simply I could kill mobs solo using the Wu's I could not kill using the Jades or KD's or what have you. Just my experience, hope it helps. If anyone wants to help greet an old timer back to the game, I will be reappearring next week on the Fennin Ro server. I quit after all of my gear mysteriously vanished and I could not get any help from Verant.
Ok an iksar berserker club is now worth 500pp and it has the same dly/dmg and master wu's trance stick is worth 3k.Is the proc smite really worth 2.5k?
I dont understand how many of you guys can discuss this weapon whitout taking into account the lvl of the wielder. At lower lvls a KD will be a lot better than this in primary. But at higher lvls other things come into play.
At 51 when i use trance stick in my primary it becomes a 15/18 weapon (7 + 8 damage bonus)0.83 ratio
KD becomes 22/28 (14 + 8 damage bonus) 0.78 ratio
At higher lvls most fast 1h weapons outperform slower ones. Eaven if the slower one has better base ratio. This is valid for 1h weapons. For 2h weapons the calcutations are different since damage bonus increases with delay.
Thus at higher lvls trance stick is better than KD in primary whitout eaven taking procc into account. But of course jade mace is eaven better.
As I understand it, the damage bonus doesn't apply like that, but rather adds damage to the hits. So a 11 damage bonus will be Normal damage on the hit + 11. If that was the case, then alot of weapons would be insane in the hands of a higher level warrior.
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#Matpolo,
Posted:Jan 06 2002 at 10:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ya all of u r right: i would much prefer a Kd than this crappy little staff, but some 1 said the EPIC is 9 dmg. Ok ok it is 9 DMG, but if u have a FBSS or some other HASTE items, the fists r 9/18 i think, add 20-50% ( i thinks that is the highest haste u can get maybe more) but it can then drop those fast fistst as they r to 9/10 ya that's roght 9/10 u how fast of a little b*tch ud be???????? ud be a litle annoying DoT melee. i saw a 60 MONK doing on the screen 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 20 18 18 32 CRITICAL HIT 18 i mean he killed Nillipus in like 5 secs (i no hes weak but i mean 5 secs!)
Unless you completely twink your monk, you won't be able to take a lot of hits. Monks are one of the best two damage dealers in the game (Rogues top them in certain situations), but they don't have the AC to be tanks most of the time.
My monk has a Fungi Tunic, Silver Chitin Handwraps, and a pair of KD (yes and other items). Without a doubt the most valuable items I have are the SCH and the KD. The haste, combined with the 14 dmg KDs, let me kill a mob before he kills me. IMHO that's what monks have to do.
It'd be nice if this staff proc'd often but I would rather be hitting for 45max (at lv 38) than have a *chance* to proc 80dd. Also, monks can use FD in battle to drop after a full combat round and then get up and swing + kick. With a pair of KD and Flying Kick I can do this and get in 200+ damage, which totally changes the battle.
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And now with AA's Rangers outdamage all except a wizard with equivalent AA's... And with the monk nerf coming out next week monks will still do the highest MELEE damage (save rogue BS) and take even more damage when hit. Oh well, it is about time the overpopulation of us monks were cut a bit...
Rogues out damage monks by far... rogues can out damage wizards.... as long as a wizard doesnt crit that is :) and a rogue can do more damage in a raid situation in longer fights... enough said.
Here's the thing though. With two KD's you aren't doing as much damage as you would be with a Wu's in Primary and a KD in Secondary. Go to www.monkly-business.com and take a look at their damage calculating spreadsheet.
Because of the primary hand damage bonus (this is different than the individual weapon dmg bonus), and the fact that delay makes little difference in your offhand, the proc on this stick makes it a definitely nice item to keep in the primary with a KD in the offhand. Not only that, but with quicker weapons you have more hits, and vs. casting mobs, more hits = better for interruption.
#Altair,
Posted:Jan 19 2002 at 10:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Having actully used one of these POS dual KD's will out damage this thing. I dont care what monkly business says there are more factors involved then just damage, delay, and haste. Like offensive defensive skills agi and AC of the mob.
I use one of these in main, and a SoS in second. I have the trance stick because of its weight, and its delay, not because of its proc. Im at 17 weight right now, and a jmace would take me to 18. Personaly, i would rather have the 5 more ac from being under the weight limit at my level then 2 more dmg on a weapon.
ok question i am a new lvl 1 monk iksar ad i had to change from my original 36 warrior because he got #$^&$# up and gm said to make new guy , well by the lvl 30 i realized how much better monks are so i decided i would make one. any suggestions on KD or stick? i have 4600 in bank xev server i think sticks are 5k and i was in gfay today and saw KD for 4k
i used 2 wu sticks at 1 time not good then wu/kd not that great then i went back to my kd/kd with fbss works great when i used the wu/wu i was only getting 7 to 14 damage but with a kd 28 to 40 damage between the levels 23 and 39 that i used them now i have a staff of shielding and jade mace now thats a nice combo
I agree, the proc is too random to make it worth the small damage it gives. 7...c'mon. It's good to sell to an ignorant monk and buy something better like a kd.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Oct 29 2001 at 3:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok guys ~why are they called trance sticks? trance? like what they trying to say?
I have a wu stick in my primary and have 125 dex but the proc seems too random to be a very effective weapon. one fight it procs 3 or 4 time then I might go 1 or 2 fight with only 1 proc. It just doesn't seem to be very reliable when you depend on the proc to make up for the weak dmg on this thing
Dude, these are going for 4-5K on Sol Ro. Someone I talked to today traded a KD for one. Please don't post what you personally want it to be. Post what the market is. The market is NOT 7K anymore, especially with all the new monk weapons coming out and the new drops in Chardok.
Not sure what that guys intent was by posting a price of 3500pp about 50 times..but a few postings of 100,000pp got the price to about what it should be. yes this item goes for about 6-7k. Think about it 80hp DD as a proc is awesome on such a alow delay weapon.
Ok, Im looking at this and thinking...why such off a easy mob?...On bristlebane server, these go for 5 to 8k Knuckle Dusters go for 2k KD's drops off Skeletal Harbringer in Old Sebilis (lvl 55 ) yes, the dmg is real good on KD, but why so cheap and why is this so high, KD is much harder to get and yet has a low price tag, Its not cause there are a lot of them cause there is not many of em on bristle. someone explain this? try to keep the flaming down a bit, you know that doesn't solve anything and is pathetic
KD has a higher delay, once a monk reaches 45+lvl the damage bonuses will more then make up for the lack of damage on this weapon. IMO this is just short of the monk epic, which is only 9 damage BTW. =)
It appears that some poor lamer figures if puts in a certain price 50 times it will become worth down to his broke level. Well congrats genius! you have successfully lowered to price of it on the board of this website. Of course , it will not change its TRUE value on the server, so you will still not be able to afford it. GL slick
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well, ended up getting one while soloing near the stables. It actually dropped off one of the iksar varieties of shadow. it is not visible on the mob and i about freaked when i saw it layin there. I had spent approximately 20hrs there before finding it. Good luck all.
I have one of these and I am a lvl 11 Monk and everybody wants to inspect me when I play I had 5 people looking at me and felt like a spectecal. It rocks, I have had people offer me any where from 1kpp to 5kpp and turned them down. I like mine and if I get anything better then I'll sell it but not until.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 19 2001 at 5:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have one of these and I am a lvl 11 Monk and everybody wants to inspect me when I play I had 5 people looking at me and felt like a spectecal. It rocks, I have had people offer me any where from 1kpp to 5kpp and turned them down. I like mine and if I get anything better then I'll sell
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 04 2001 at 2:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok i had (repeat had) 2 Knuckle Dusters and traded them in for alot of really good bard gear full set of lambent and couple peices of singin steel plus a iskar berseker club! My sister's boyfriend (lvl 49 druid) said this stick is better then knuckle dusters is he crazy???? I am on the Xegony serer the lvl 49 druid is on Druzzil Ro what is going on????????
Yes, Master Wu's Trance Stick is better. The delay is lower than Knuckle Dusters, AND it procs smite. This 80dmg DD spell that I've seen cast more than 3 times per fight completely makes up for any more damage you would do with KDs.
I would say that a KD would be better. You would not be able to make up for the damage with Wu's, even when it procs. But later on, monk fists will attack with same stats as KD anyway. Later on, monk fists will put Wu's to shame.
Waster Wu's Trance Stick is better that fists in your primary until Level 54 based on the damage/delay alone (not including the proc), but fists are better in your off hand past about level 40. This is because of the damage bonus on your primary (plus 8 at level 50.)
Go to www.monkly-business.com, and check out the 1hb table.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 03 2001 at 5:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what is the purpose of your post regarding what you payed for that crap!! why dont ya try posting something usefull or stfu!