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the price data says the item is no longer available , any confirmation on this , and reasons?
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Used to be my favorite weapon about 8 years ago- i just came back to check if anyone uses this anymore and to my surprise it says its worth 80k pp WOW is all i can say.
I now i am prob going to get flamed for this think about it this way say you like the DPS of a 2H weapon for palies and Sks with this weapon you get that DPS and still get the stats of a nice shield. so flame away :)
51 Warrior of Luclin and proud
51 Warrior of Luclin and proud
Well, I'd flame the butchering of the English language before I flame the actual post.
You may want to look into some punctuation and some grammar skills. Its hard to understand a post with NO punctuation in it. And I know you're not a small child, because no small children would be posting in an EQ forum. Which leads me to believe you're just lazy.
Now, regarding the post, I'm not sure what a 51 warrior is doing with a shield. I know you haven't invested any AA's into shield block or any of the other defensive and mitigation AAs.
You're going to kill mobs way faster without your shield. The stat and AC bonus a 51 warrior gets from a shield (unless you've got some hardcore guild to get you a sweet shield) is so small compared to the DPS of a 2H weapon or DPS of dual wield. Thats why you only ever see end-game warriors with a shield.
Get rid of that knight's garbage. You've got the HPs to survive.
You may want to look into some punctuation and some grammar skills. Its hard to understand a post with NO punctuation in it. And I know you're not a small child, because no small children would be posting in an EQ forum. Which leads me to believe you're just lazy.
Now, regarding the post, I'm not sure what a 51 warrior is doing with a shield. I know you haven't invested any AA's into shield block or any of the other defensive and mitigation AAs.
You're going to kill mobs way faster without your shield. The stat and AC bonus a 51 warrior gets from a shield (unless you've got some hardcore guild to get you a sweet shield) is so small compared to the DPS of a 2H weapon or DPS of dual wield. Thats why you only ever see end-game warriors with a shield.
Get rid of that knight's garbage. You've got the HPs to survive.
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I know and I don't use a shield. I am always duel wielding and will probably never stop. I just know that for paladins and shadow knights that 2HS= DPS. So why not use this in the mid thirties till upper forties with a good shield you will be getting good DPS and good stats and i was just saying my opinion
I just completed this quest a month ago from start to finish. It's still functional and the Squire still spawns.
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wurmy should be changed from " rare " to " ultra rare " on account squire fuzzmin no longer spawns.
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setadil -68 rng- test
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the ranger isint a sacrifice.
the SK is a noob.
the bard rocks the cleric's socks.
zithril -70 SK- test
setadil -68 rng- test
waeeril -58 bard- test
the ranger isint a sacrifice.
the SK is a noob.
the bard rocks the cleric's socks.
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In short: I can confirm this quest is fully functional.
Total time: roughly 2 hours
Details:
As of today it is not broken. I sat outside the PoK tunnel and waited for Sir Hobble to appear on track. Then I ran around with him for awhile, killed stuff for him, kept hailing him, and after a little while Squire Fuzzmin showed up. I was able to give him all three scales while he was walking around Sir Hobble.
I read a few responses on here and as a result I tried to hail that Lenka NPC but when I ran around trying to track him he never showed. That is when I started camping the PoK zone area with all the spiders. I also skipped a step and just killed Lord Lyfyx of Burwood. The two dragons were up when I entered the zone to kill them. So all in all I was very lucky it seems.
Cephei - 42 Druid
Returning Player
Total time: roughly 2 hours
Details:
As of today it is not broken. I sat outside the PoK tunnel and waited for Sir Hobble to appear on track. Then I ran around with him for awhile, killed stuff for him, kept hailing him, and after a little while Squire Fuzzmin showed up. I was able to give him all three scales while he was walking around Sir Hobble.
I read a few responses on here and as a result I tried to hail that Lenka NPC but when I ran around trying to track him he never showed. That is when I started camping the PoK zone area with all the spiders. I also skipped a step and just killed Lord Lyfyx of Burwood. The two dragons were up when I entered the zone to kill them. So all in all I was very lucky it seems.
Cephei - 42 Druid
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While it is true that the wurmy isn't considerd an Uber weapon anymore it is still one of the best weapons between lvl 20 and lvl 45.
One of the knocks on this weapon is that it is too slow to hold agro. In the old days My barbarian warrior used it and held agro vs the faster Lamitations etc, until he upgraded about lvl 50.
The truth is dps is the major factor in determining agro. And the truth is the Wurmy still has one of the best dps pre lvl 45. Sure there are weapons with better dps, but very few that don't have a lvl restirction on them.
Recently I made an oger warrior on a server on which I had a wurmy in the bank, when he ding 20 I gave him the wurmy and sent him out into the world to see how he did. (He also had a fbss 21% haste)
I group him as much as possible and the groups and adv he gets often have other melee classes in them.
The only weapon that I've seen so far that can compair with the wurmy for agro is the 14/22 BAB.
I've always used the formula 2*Damage/delay to compair the damage potenctel of diffrent weapons.
Using this equation the wrumy comes out at 1.25 and the BAB scores a 1.27. Or slightly better.
In the end if the BAB owner has a haste item we will traid agro if not my oger will hold agro.
Now I realize that as the main hand damage bonus comes into paly (lvl 28 as i recall) the advantage of the BAB will be increassed and the other common lower lvl weapons will start to close the gap on the wurmy. However the Wurmy will hold up vs most of them till the mid 40's.
In the end the main reason my Ogre uses a wurmy is I believe that an ogre should do huge amounts of damage per hit. That is also why he uses a centi warhammer 15/32 in his off hand.
I also enjoy the novilty of it.
The fact that it out agros a number of the fast weapons and has the speed is everything crowed shaking their heads is just an added bonus.
One of the knocks on this weapon is that it is too slow to hold agro. In the old days My barbarian warrior used it and held agro vs the faster Lamitations etc, until he upgraded about lvl 50.
The truth is dps is the major factor in determining agro. And the truth is the Wurmy still has one of the best dps pre lvl 45. Sure there are weapons with better dps, but very few that don't have a lvl restirction on them.
Recently I made an oger warrior on a server on which I had a wurmy in the bank, when he ding 20 I gave him the wurmy and sent him out into the world to see how he did. (He also had a fbss 21% haste)
I group him as much as possible and the groups and adv he gets often have other melee classes in them.
The only weapon that I've seen so far that can compair with the wurmy for agro is the 14/22 BAB.
I've always used the formula 2*Damage/delay to compair the damage potenctel of diffrent weapons.
Using this equation the wrumy comes out at 1.25 and the BAB scores a 1.27. Or slightly better.
In the end if the BAB owner has a haste item we will traid agro if not my oger will hold agro.
Now I realize that as the main hand damage bonus comes into paly (lvl 28 as i recall) the advantage of the BAB will be increassed and the other common lower lvl weapons will start to close the gap on the wurmy. However the Wurmy will hold up vs most of them till the mid 40's.
In the end the main reason my Ogre uses a wurmy is I believe that an ogre should do huge amounts of damage per hit. That is also why he uses a centi warhammer 15/32 in his off hand.
I also enjoy the novilty of it.
The fact that it out agros a number of the fast weapons and has the speed is everything crowed shaking their heads is just an added bonus.
#jesterxp,
Posted: May 03 2004 at 2:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok every one is seeming to forget haste items and spells effect more that just the speed of the weapon.....it effectivly also lowers a bit the max dam of the weapon
No it doesn't. The same character, hitting with this weapon, with no haste on, will have the exact same max hit, as a character with a haste item, and a haste spell on, unless its a higher level haste, since those add melee stats as well, and would actually INCREASE the damage per hit.
So, if you hit for 100 max with this unhasted, you'd hit for 100 max hasted, just more often.
So, if you hit for 100 max with this unhasted, you'd hit for 100 max hasted, just more often.
15 posts
I used to use this weapon for my Ranger but then I hit lv50... It is a good weapon at lower levels since mobs have laughable HP. This weapon is CRAP at higher levels. Mobs have too much hp anyways and if you think Wurmy's are good at high levels, let me show you why not.. this was taken from Modi Guru and btw, the scion axe he's talking about is a 14/22
Quote:
OK... lets look at the Wurmy first. It is 25/40. A delay of 40 means the weapon makes an attempt to swing every 4 seconds. So a Wurmy will swing 15 times per minute. (60/4=15swings) Ok so the maximum PURE WEAPON damage (not worrying about str and all that JUST the weapon)is calculated by multiplying the damage times the number of swings/minute. 25*15=375 damage. In your PRIMARY hand you need to add the damage bonus as well. At 46 the dam bonus is 7, the 49-8 52-9 55-10 and so on. So at your level you take the damage bonus of 7 times 15 swings and you get the additional damage for dam bonus... 7*15=105.
25*15=375 weapon damage
7*15=105 damage bonus
Wurmy...375+105= 480 total
Lets look at one of my favorites the Razor Edge shan'tok a 12/20
weap with Great Ranger stats (4STA)and hps. 20 delay= swing every 2 seconds.. twice as fast as the Wurmy. 60/2=30 swings.
12*30=360 weapon damage
7*30=210 damage bonus
Razor...360+210=570
hmm as you can see although the wulmy itself outdamges the faster weapon the damage bonuses really added up with 30 swings.
Around level 46 you should start moving to faster weapons in your PRIMARY to take advantage of that damage bonus. The higher you are and the bigger your damage bonus is the more powerfull this becomes.
At this point you should replace the Wulmy with the Razor edged Shan'tok. The lupine is ok, but clearly under performs the shan'tok... I would keep it for the Greater wolf form proc when hunting in JPF. Wolf Form makes you indifferent to griffs as you are monig around, and many will not add... some higher level GrifFONS will still add but as you gain levels the number will drop more and more. At 49 you get wolf form so you dont really need the Lup dagger after that.
The Scion Axe is Recomend level 60... at 53 it was like a 12/21 rather than its full stregth stats of 14/21... at 53 the Razor Edged Shantok was the better weapon. Around 57 I replaced the Shan'tok with the Scion axe.
Lets pretend you could use the Tox Axe now at full strength. 10/17... 60/1.7=35 swings
10*35=350 weapon damage
7*35=245 damage bonus
Toxx Axe...350+245= 595 Slightly better than the Shan'tok... not enough to make me want to buy it (way more expensive of the two on my server at the time and still).
Offhand boils down to the best Ratio period.No damage bonus here.
Centi LS 14/27= .518
Shan'tok 12/20= .600
Toxx Axe 10/17= .588
DLB recomend 56 22/34= 647 Obviously at yuor level it wont be full strength but as long at it is 18/27 or better it beats the CentiLS. Pretty darn cheap too. At 51 you could also use the Toxx in primary and Shan'tok in secondary... but a lot of folks go with the DLB because of its great ratio and price...
Make sure you dont go below 101 STA if you replace the CentiLS and youll be fine.
Hope that helped some... alway pays to do the math before buying new weaps so you can see if its worth that extra 5K... a lot of times it LOOKS better but the math tells another story
good luck.
25*15=375 weapon damage
7*15=105 damage bonus
Wurmy...375+105= 480 total
Lets look at one of my favorites the Razor Edge shan'tok a 12/20
weap with Great Ranger stats (4STA)and hps. 20 delay= swing every 2 seconds.. twice as fast as the Wurmy. 60/2=30 swings.
12*30=360 weapon damage
7*30=210 damage bonus
Razor...360+210=570
hmm as you can see although the wulmy itself outdamges the faster weapon the damage bonuses really added up with 30 swings.
Around level 46 you should start moving to faster weapons in your PRIMARY to take advantage of that damage bonus. The higher you are and the bigger your damage bonus is the more powerfull this becomes.
At this point you should replace the Wulmy with the Razor edged Shan'tok. The lupine is ok, but clearly under performs the shan'tok... I would keep it for the Greater wolf form proc when hunting in JPF. Wolf Form makes you indifferent to griffs as you are monig around, and many will not add... some higher level GrifFONS will still add but as you gain levels the number will drop more and more. At 49 you get wolf form so you dont really need the Lup dagger after that.
The Scion Axe is Recomend level 60... at 53 it was like a 12/21 rather than its full stregth stats of 14/21... at 53 the Razor Edged Shantok was the better weapon. Around 57 I replaced the Shan'tok with the Scion axe.
Lets pretend you could use the Tox Axe now at full strength. 10/17... 60/1.7=35 swings
10*35=350 weapon damage
7*35=245 damage bonus
Toxx Axe...350+245= 595 Slightly better than the Shan'tok... not enough to make me want to buy it (way more expensive of the two on my server at the time and still).
Offhand boils down to the best Ratio period.No damage bonus here.
Centi LS 14/27= .518
Shan'tok 12/20= .600
Toxx Axe 10/17= .588
DLB recomend 56 22/34= 647 Obviously at yuor level it wont be full strength but as long at it is 18/27 or better it beats the CentiLS. Pretty darn cheap too. At 51 you could also use the Toxx in primary and Shan'tok in secondary... but a lot of folks go with the DLB because of its great ratio and price...
Make sure you dont go below 101 STA if you replace the CentiLS and youll be fine.
Hope that helped some... alway pays to do the math before buying new weaps so you can see if its worth that extra 5K... a lot of times it LOOKS better but the math tells another story
good luck.
Why do things that matter the most never end up being a choice?
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Although it's true that this weapon isn't as good at higher levels, you forgot one important factor, haste. Haste affects higher delay weps more than low delay ones. i.e. with SCHW (21% haste)the wurmy goes down to 31.6 delay, the RES only goes down to 15.8, still alot better than wurmy but should be taken into consideration...
4 posts
According to your calculation, with 100% haste, the delay on any weapon would be ZERO. Just so you know, Haste works like this:
If you were to have 100% haste, you would swing twice in the span it would take you to normally swing once.
Eg. Wurmslayer, with 100% haste, the delay would be 20. With 21% haste, the delay would be 35.8
The delay on the "RES" would be 17.9
I hope that clears up your befuddlement.
Cheers.
If you were to have 100% haste, you would swing twice in the span it would take you to normally swing once.
Eg. Wurmslayer, with 100% haste, the delay would be 20. With 21% haste, the delay would be 35.8
The delay on the "RES" would be 17.9
I hope that clears up your befuddlement.
Cheers.
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wow i never thought my message about wurmys would get a reply hehe
Why do things that matter the most never end up being a choice?
/agree ...
SUKY WEPON....
takes to long to quest for such a poship
SUKY WEPON....
takes to long to quest for such a poship
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QUOTE: takes to long to quest for such a poship
Takes me less than ten minutes to quest for this weapon.
50 PP per scale at the most, a couple of minutes getting to FV and track, 1200 PP profit.
that aint no P.O.S. in my humble opinion. Got me a horse.
Takes me less than ten minutes to quest for this weapon.
50 PP per scale at the most, a couple of minutes getting to FV and track, 1200 PP profit.
that aint no P.O.S. in my humble opinion. Got me a horse.
34 posts
WHEN this weapon was new,
WHEN kunark was new,
This weapon rocked.
It's dated, nothing more.
WHEN kunark was new,
This weapon rocked.
It's dated, nothing more.
What the hell is a DLB? I am using Razor-edged Shan'Tok aug'd with Permafrost Chunk of Resilience effect mirror1 (combat) and Stained Axe of the Scions aug'd with Warm Emerald Shard effect heated blade (combat). My belt is Nightrage's Gore Belt (should have waited and got a better belt but anyway) aug'd with Jagged Slate of Battle Prowess effect:haste (worn) 21%and Flawless Purple Gem of Deftness. With a caster chanter or shammy speed buff, I swing baby swing !!!.
At level 56, this ranger rocks and starting to peak the 4k hp mark. And on the neck Cracked Jeweled Choker aug'd with Crumbled Gravestone of Renewal regen1, I often run in LDoN with 15 Icon spells and when mirror procs it no shows.
At level 56, this ranger rocks and starting to peak the 4k hp mark. And on the neck Cracked Jeweled Choker aug'd with Crumbled Gravestone of Renewal regen1, I often run in LDoN with 15 Icon spells and when mirror procs it no shows.
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DLB = Defenders Lightblade
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I may be mistake but I was told the reason the wurmy was so widely used was because of the high delay/damage, not only because of lower agro, but because of the fact that haste has more of an effect on it. i.e. with SCHW a centi (27 delay) only goes down 6 while a wurmy (40) goes down by about 9. I realize this isn't much but that's what I was told. Flame away!
if u got a decent haste item its an ok weapon ...
higher the elay higherthe damgwe bonous in the end and damge bonous add to the base damage... say its 13 damge bonous or somthign that 38/40 a decent ratioa and with haste it could be a 38/28 + tribute haste 38/24 and buffs reguarly 38/20 meaning after lots of buffs and ur worn ahaste and being a decent level the damge this wepon does is pretty awesome- still way better stuff tho-
Edited, Thu Feb 26 14:32:16 2004
higher the elay higherthe damgwe bonous in the end and damge bonous add to the base damage... say its 13 damge bonous or somthign that 38/40 a decent ratioa and with haste it could be a 38/28 + tribute haste 38/24 and buffs reguarly 38/20 meaning after lots of buffs and ur worn ahaste and being a decent level the damge this wepon does is pretty awesome- still way better stuff tho-
Edited, Thu Feb 26 14:32:16 2004
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how many morons are there that won't learn. Ahem...
DON'T TALK ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL DON'T KNOWABOUT.
As in you saying dmg bonus makes it 38/40, no, moron, it mans it's 25/40 and with, say, 13 bonus, that means 25/40 with extra 13 dmg on your hit, you hit for 40, dmg bonus brings it to 53, .... I know, he was uneducated, i should let him live, but he's trying to explain stuff abnd it's not right, don't say things when you don't kno, morons.
DON'T TALK ABOUT WHAT Y'ALL DON'T KNOWABOUT.
As in you saying dmg bonus makes it 38/40, no, moron, it mans it's 25/40 and with, say, 13 bonus, that means 25/40 with extra 13 dmg on your hit, you hit for 40, dmg bonus brings it to 53, .... I know, he was uneducated, i should let him live, but he's trying to explain stuff abnd it's not right, don't say things when you don't kno, morons.
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13 monk
So I go out and buy a Wurmslayer and what happens? A friend of mine gives me his Wurmslayer to use since he no longer needs it. Needless to say I really wish Wurmy could be dual wielded, but it can't. Goes for around 700-800 normally on Veeshan server, will sell one for 500. /tell Woodzee.
Edited, Thu Jan 29 09:01:08 2004
Edited, Thu Jan 29 09:01:08 2004
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#tinque,
Posted: Apr 10 2005 at 9:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) To settle the issue on single/dual wield- my warrior was dual wielding wurmys up to the time SOE nerfed them to become Primary slot only. This happened around the time of Planes of Power release.
#Follie,
Posted: Feb 01 2004 at 1:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) um last time I checked wurmy can be duel wielded
it is Primary only slot .. cannot be dual wielded
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It can be dual wielded, just can't be held in the offhand.
????????
Dual wield means you use one in each melee. So how do you dual wield a weapon that is primary only?
You weren't thinking of double attack, were you?
Dual wield means you use one in each melee. So how do you dual wield a weapon that is primary only?
You weren't thinking of double attack, were you?
if i'm not mistaken
i believe what the poster meant was that they wished they could dual wield TWO wurmslayers
i believe what the poster meant was that they wished they could dual wield TWO wurmslayers
That's why Pretz post doesn't make sense. He says it can be dual wielded, but not held in offhand. So how do you use two, when it won't go in secondary?
I believe he just meant you can use it with another weapon, but you can't use it in the secondary slot. He was just generalizing the term "duel wield" into "using two weapons."
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#dorfognomeater,
Posted: Oct 23 2003 at 8:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WURMYS ARE WAY TOO SLOW!!!!! BUT THEY DO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF DMG BUT LACK VERY MUCH ON SPEED. ATM I HAVE A WURMY AND CENI ls BUT I'M GUNNA GET A FROSTBRINGER INSTEAD OF WURMY!!!
You are kinda right, you really want a low delay prmary weapon as the damage bonus adds will be +13 say every 1 sec instead of 4. include double attack and you are missing out on 78 (2(double attack)*13(max dmg bonus)*3 (missed opportuinites)) damage on the 4 sec delay weapon for every time you get to attack.
Slow? So? it is pretty strong. Strong then my Ranger's Elder Wolf Jawbone. Besides, just because it's slow, doesnt mean it suxs. Some weapons have a huge dmg, but hugeER delay, but, you can kill the mob with one hit (well, you get the point) and THAT, my freind, is worth while. (or just get a few hastes)
10 posts
Yes, they are slow, but damaging... which is precisely what DPS classes want. Let's us do serious damage without as great a chance of stealing aggro.
aye, everyone kept telling me to get a wurmy for my warior, i didnt listen to them, too slow for me, i got a lammy and a centi ss and went to town, gave the slow stuff to my ranja
#grndslmanth,
Posted: Feb 06 2004 at 9:01 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) DUH!! THERE IS A THING CALLED SILVER CHITIN HAND WRAPS THAT MAKES UR PRIMARY WURMY LIKE A LAMANTATION AND YOUR CENTI LS LIKE A FREAKIN 6 DELAY WEP in this case the wurmy kicks serious but
Nice try, but no.
Silver Chitin Hand Wraps, have 22% haste. They would make a wurmslayer's effective delay 33.
The effective delay on the lamentation would be 16.
Remember that the SCHW and any other haste item, will haste ANY weapon you use. So, if wurmslayer is too slow unhasted, relative to other weapons (more than double the delay of lammy), it STILL will be twice as slow after haste.
Oh, effective delay on Cent LS would be 23, not 6.
Silver Chitin Hand Wraps, have 22% haste. They would make a wurmslayer's effective delay 33.
The effective delay on the lamentation would be 16.
Remember that the SCHW and any other haste item, will haste ANY weapon you use. So, if wurmslayer is too slow unhasted, relative to other weapons (more than double the delay of lammy), it STILL will be twice as slow after haste.
Oh, effective delay on Cent LS would be 23, not 6.
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I have a low lvl SK that I'm trying to twink. I have both a Centi LS and a Wurmslayer and they seem to do the same amount of damage (Centi is faster obviously). Will this change? I want to know if i should keep both or sell one. Also, what's a good 2H Slash for a SK that I can buy?
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Actually, at low levels before damage bonus starts to add up, Wurmslayer should be better than Centi LS. After a while, though, the lower delay on the Centi will make this better in terms of DPS than the Wurmy. Keep checking the ratio as you level.
((Damage+Damage Bonus)*2)+1/(Delay/10)
As soon as the Centi LS comes out ahead of Wurmslayer, put Wurmy away and go with Centi full time.
Plugging in the numbers:
Before you get damage bonus:
Wurmy (25*2)+1=51/(40/10) or 4=12.75 DPS
Centi LS (14*2)+1=29/(27/10) or 2.7=10.74 DPS
When your damage bonus reaches 9, however it changes.
Wurmy ((25+9)*2)+1=69/(40/10) or 4= 17.25 DPS
Centi LS ((14+9)*2)+1=47/(27/10) or 2.7=17.41 DPS
And the gap gets wider in favor of the Centi from there. So keep both but use Wurmy until you get your damage bonus up to 9 then drop Wurmy.
Edited, Thu Jan 29 09:18:48 2004
((Damage+Damage Bonus)*2)+1/(Delay/10)
As soon as the Centi LS comes out ahead of Wurmslayer, put Wurmy away and go with Centi full time.
Plugging in the numbers:
Before you get damage bonus:
Wurmy (25*2)+1=51/(40/10) or 4=12.75 DPS
Centi LS (14*2)+1=29/(27/10) or 2.7=10.74 DPS
When your damage bonus reaches 9, however it changes.
Wurmy ((25+9)*2)+1=69/(40/10) or 4= 17.25 DPS
Centi LS ((14+9)*2)+1=47/(27/10) or 2.7=17.41 DPS
And the gap gets wider in favor of the Centi from there. So keep both but use Wurmy until you get your damage bonus up to 9 then drop Wurmy.
Edited, Thu Jan 29 09:18:48 2004
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20 posts
Get an Argent protector for 3.7k
Sell them both, and get a noctivigant blade.
Or if you cannot afford that, get a Mace of the shadowed soul. Either would be tons better for an SK than wurmy or centi LS.
Good 2hs would be ornate run blade til lvl 20 (due to damage cap), then try to get an argent protector.
Or if you cannot afford that, get a Mace of the shadowed soul. Either would be tons better for an SK than wurmy or centi LS.
Good 2hs would be ornate run blade til lvl 20 (due to damage cap), then try to get an argent protector.
5 posts
Well, I got the Argent Protector (2k) as you suggested and I hit for a max of 29 at lvl 16. With a wurmmy and a cracked darkwood shield, however, I hit for a max of 29 and bash for a max of 15. Right now it seems that the Wrummy/shield combo is working better. Does the Argent Protector's damage go up more as I lvl.
By the way, my 2H Slash skill is higher than 1H slash. I thought if I were to get it up higher, my damage would be higher, but no go.
By the way, my 2H Slash skill is higher than 1H slash. I thought if I were to get it up higher, my damage would be higher, but no go.
Quote:
Well, I got the Argent Protector (2k) as you suggested and I hit for a max of 29 at lvl 16.
Actually I said:
Quote:
Good 2hs would be ornate run blade til lvl 20 (due to damage cap), then try to get an argent protector.
As that points out, you would be better with the ornate rune blade til 20, due to damage cap.
Until level 20, you have a damage cap. There is also a damage cap lifted at level 10; before then max damage is 21. When you get to 20, you will almost instantly see both weapons do a LOT more damage, the AP likely in the range of 110 and the wurmy in a range of around 70 or so. Bash damage also increases. At 28 you start getting "Bonus Damage". This adds so many points of damage when you attack, and will also increase as you level. Hope this all helps!
5 posts
Helped very much, thanks =)
Anyone know if Wurmy got any augmentaion slots? Sold mine and haven't been to bazaar yet to see if they added any? Hope they added a type 6 slot
Type 4 slot, just like almost every other pre-LDoN weapon.
3 posts
I just got handed one of these while twinking my lvl 1 ranger with stuff like a twisted longbow, cloak of greater pernicity, and other stuff,....anyway, i was just puttering around the bazaar when a member of Ascent comes up, hands me this, says "good huntin", then runs off....it is a great weapon that i love and will go great with my other junk in the future..... also, i am on Rodcet Nife so whoever wants to buy anything gimme a call.....P.S. i am a filthy twink so get used to it.
15 posts
i just got the wurm slayer 2 days ago and i dont use it till i get deul weild at 20.for now i use centi short sword, scince it hits more and faster.
lv. 13 ranger < Legions of Pain>
on bertoxxlous
lv. 13 ranger < Legions of Pain>
on bertoxxlous
actually rangers get dual wield at level 17 not 20 your Double attack is at 20. Trust me a well learned level 35 ranger
6 posts
Finding a weapon that works best for you is the most important part of the melee class. I have a 39 Paladin strength defecent Erudite, yes I know, lame choice ). I have both weapons, and find the Wurmslayer with the silver chitin hand wraps works the best for me. I group with the Real tank (warrior) class, and can do near as much dammage and hardly any aggro. My lame contribution to group and board. Best of luck to us all.
1 post
Right now i have a wurmy centi short combo i am a lvl 34 warr and i hit anywhere from 25 to 90 dmg regular and i get crits for 150+ and crips for 200+ with my wurmy so i would have to say that the wurmy doesnt need bane dmg its alredy badass as it is. If anybody has a Centi Long on the Tallon Zek server they are willing to part with for 500pp plus some good items please send Luminissater a tell thanks
9 posts
wouldn't you think the Wurmslayer would have a bane against wurms?
8 posts
It does have bane damage against worms and wyverns (a.k.a. Dragons). At level 33 my warrior is getting your will is not sufficient enough to use this wep or something like that.
BopBope
2 posts
I was wondering if a wurmy and a lamy would be a good combonation and from what level to what level. LOL if i could ever afford it!
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Lammy isn't a very good secondary weapon, and wurmslayer is primary only. so I'd have to say no.
Also, it depends on what class you are.
If you're a ranger, a wurmslayer is a good high ratio sword, and can last you to lvl 50, maybe even a little longer. If doen't produce much aggro at all, which is nice. I've seen a low 50s ranger with Wurmy and defender's lightblade, produce some massive damage, and never once take a hit.
For a warrior, you'll probably have a tough time keeping aggro with a wurmy. Most warriors who use wurmslayer usually replace it by lvl 40, as they find a fast weapon like lamentation to be a better taunt weapon. Proccing weapons like frostbringer do an even better job on taunt.
For offhand, the primary thing to focus on is RATIO. Lammy has a worse raw ratio than centi SHORT sword. I'd look for a weapon with a ratio of less than 2 for secondary.
If you're looking for proc weapons, again, frostbringer, honed blade of ykesha, or similar are nice. For raw ratio/stats, I like the tae ew longsword or tae ew dagger (but you must be lvl 51 to use either).
Also, it depends on what class you are.
If you're a ranger, a wurmslayer is a good high ratio sword, and can last you to lvl 50, maybe even a little longer. If doen't produce much aggro at all, which is nice. I've seen a low 50s ranger with Wurmy and defender's lightblade, produce some massive damage, and never once take a hit.
For a warrior, you'll probably have a tough time keeping aggro with a wurmy. Most warriors who use wurmslayer usually replace it by lvl 40, as they find a fast weapon like lamentation to be a better taunt weapon. Proccing weapons like frostbringer do an even better job on taunt.
For offhand, the primary thing to focus on is RATIO. Lammy has a worse raw ratio than centi SHORT sword. I'd look for a weapon with a ratio of less than 2 for secondary.
If you're looking for proc weapons, again, frostbringer, honed blade of ykesha, or similar are nice. For raw ratio/stats, I like the tae ew longsword or tae ew dagger (but you must be lvl 51 to use either).
6 posts
Im going to have to disagree with you on the Rangers not getting aggro with a Wurmslayer. Im a 48 Ranger and I get a lot of aggro with this just simply because I hit harder, it could be because my secondary is a Curved Lunar Scimtar (19 del/7dmg/5Mdmg) which hits pretty fast or because of my bad luck. Either way I do pick up a lot of aggro with it.
Edited, Thu Jul 31 23:32:18 2003
Edited, Thu Jul 31 23:32:18 2003
Try swapping it with a fast weapon. Put a lamentation in primary, and you'll take aggro more than you do with this. Depending on haste, and any spells you cast, its not unusual for a ranger to pull aggro, aespecially if you are snaring the mobs. Your life will get easier when you get the JOLT spell.
Worst aggro combination I have ever seen, was just last night, in PoI. My group was pulling near ZI, and another group set up right next to us. their tank was a warrior with a wurmslayer, and a defender's lightblade. Every time I would CH the tank in MY group (an SK with narandi's lance) our mob stayed on the SK, but THE OTHER GROUP'S mob, would peel off their tank, onto ME. I wasn't even healing someone fighting their mob, but the guy was so horrible at holding aggro with that weapon combo, I kept getting whacked by his mobs.
Of course their group broke up pretty quick after their cleric died a couple times from heal aggro.
So to reiterate what I said before
Wurmslayer = fairly low aggro weapon.
Edited, Thu Aug 14 16:24:53 2003
Worst aggro combination I have ever seen, was just last night, in PoI. My group was pulling near ZI, and another group set up right next to us. their tank was a warrior with a wurmslayer, and a defender's lightblade. Every time I would CH the tank in MY group (an SK with narandi's lance) our mob stayed on the SK, but THE OTHER GROUP'S mob, would peel off their tank, onto ME. I wasn't even healing someone fighting their mob, but the guy was so horrible at holding aggro with that weapon combo, I kept getting whacked by his mobs.
Of course their group broke up pretty quick after their cleric died a couple times from heal aggro.
So to reiterate what I said before
Wurmslayer = fairly low aggro weapon.
Edited, Thu Aug 14 16:24:53 2003
yup, slow and steady for rangers, get a fast weapon to build some agro with a warrior, a nice proc is nice too, but the wurmy is a decent dps weapon for when your not tanking
6 posts
Too Funny! 20th'ish lvls running around with this sword.
Question.
Do you people ever work for your items or just buy them (or have high lvls give them to you)? Don't tell me, as soon as you got duel wield you had Longsword of Freedom in one hand, the Longblade of Vitality in the other, and the wurmy in your range just for the heck of it. Pretty sure the 30th'ish lvls worked for it to..ha
Question.
Do you people ever work for your items or just buy them (or have high lvls give them to you)? Don't tell me, as soon as you got duel wield you had Longsword of Freedom in one hand, the Longblade of Vitality in the other, and the wurmy in your range just for the heck of it. Pretty sure the 30th'ish lvls worked for it to..ha
I quested mine at Lv23 as a halfling ranger. I had the help of a 50ish wood elf ranger who was trying to do the same quest. The stupid trigger phrase was NOT spawning Sir Hobble like it should, and I spent 16 hours over 3 days hitting the trigger phrase. The other ranger sat out near the road and Tracked everytime I gave the trigger phrase back in town. As for the scales, I quested the one out of OT (died, but I did it on my own), and bought the other two from the Bazaar for around 100pp per. This is now my primary and I have a Pine Shaft Pike in the offhand (bought off a vendor, in case you wonder), and I'm questing my own Swiftclaw Sash out in Stonebrunt. Some of us do want to "earn it" as you say.
Grethic Crescentleaf
Vazaelle
Grethic Crescentleaf
Vazaelle
21 posts
I think that if someone has a character high enough in lvl to twink a character with a wurmy or lammy or what not they have earned the right to twink, good point Stryph.
#Stryph,
Posted: Jun 16 2003 at 1:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the hell are you smoking, Vitality is a Paladin/SK weapon and Freedom is an overated crock of sh*t off Doomshade (20/29 HA!)
#hockeyalso,
Posted: Jun 27 2003 at 6:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey nerds, do you guys work at getting laid!? i know these are pretty cool swords, but settle the @#%^ down! it's JUST a game! you can't take a wurmslayer on a date with you. got girlfriend!?
Not to put words in anyone's mouth but I think he was trying to make a point. A lot of us old schoolers would never even dream of having a Wurmslayer at that level. It just wasn't obtainable. Instead, we would group and go down to Lower Guk in hopes of Ebony Bladed Sword or some such.
With the way the game has evolved people can have their main character farm awesome equipment for them so their lower level characters don't have to endure the same hardships as we did way back when. I personally think you are robbing yourself of the opportunity to fight in Blackburrow and get excited over an Oppaline Earing or saving your plat to travel all the way out to the gypsy camp in North Karana to buy a Combine Longsword from Roule for 60 plat.
For the Old Schoolers don't get upset at seeing the level 5 Ranger wearing the Cloak of Flames with a Lammy and Lodizal Shell Shield. Enjoy your memories and let them makwe their own.
With the way the game has evolved people can have their main character farm awesome equipment for them so their lower level characters don't have to endure the same hardships as we did way back when. I personally think you are robbing yourself of the opportunity to fight in Blackburrow and get excited over an Oppaline Earing or saving your plat to travel all the way out to the gypsy camp in North Karana to buy a Combine Longsword from Roule for 60 plat.
For the Old Schoolers don't get upset at seeing the level 5 Ranger wearing the Cloak of Flames with a Lammy and Lodizal Shell Shield. Enjoy your memories and let them makwe their own.
Any Lvl 5 Ranger with a CoF needs shooting... he should be wearing a CoCW Like mine does, same Haste, and cheaper... baby Rangers need Dex, not Str ;)
If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh and sew our skins into their clothes. And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order
#gormonk,
Posted: May 09 2003 at 2:52 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ive been using my wurmie since lvl 20. and now at lvl 31 with str at 239, sta at 216 dex and agi over 110 i must say the i have become a dps machine. i usually deal about 500 damage every 5 seconds easily. even with missing throw in i still out damage just about everybody i grp with. now im just waitin to hit 45 so i can start usin my cobalt BP :)
Reason's comment about smoking crack withstanding... you might want to check the program you are using to calculate the numbers. They do seem a little high for your level/stats and this weapon.
Just a suggestion.
Edited, Tue Jul 22 13:32:58 2003
Just a suggestion.
Edited, Tue Jul 22 13:32:58 2003
44 posts
100 DPS at lvl 31 with 200+ STR? I doubt you're doing better than 25 DPS, and that's with high level chanter haste, a haste item, and bard stacking haste. A lvl 65 warrior with a bunch of AA's might approach 90 dps. So, go smoke your crack in the privacy of your own home. And get a log parser.
Profundo Basso
12 posts
This isn't a flame message but just a logical response on the longblade of vitality message of Leadaira.
Ofcourse longblade of vitality is MUCH better with ratio and stats. But keep the main reasons in mind why people want a wurmy.
1st.
Wurmslayer is no UBER high level weapon like the blade of vitality. It's a starter weapon, and most people use it that way. You can use it from level 1 till low in the 50's. Longblade of vitality is recommanded lvl 56, which means it's pretty wothless at lower levels.
2nd.
Wurmslayer is VERY cheap in comparison to the longblade of vitality which is most of the time 10 or even more times wurmslayers value.
Just because there are some better weapons around doesn't mean you shouldn't go for a wurmy.
just a tip:
If you want a good cheap high level weapon for a pally (Recom 53), look for the:
"mace of the fallen crusader" 21/25
(I believe it's called like that)
I know it's 1hb and no 1hs. But with a lil luck you can buy it in the bazaar really cheap (500-1000pp) and that's still a LOT cheaper then the longblade of vitality.
Just my 2 coppers,
Love,
Wandriana Noamuth 57 Necromancer
Zagrum Doomcrusher 54 Shadowknight
Fenror Bloodbasher 54 Beastlord
Perwin Aryet 34 Magican
Charisia Dreamsigh 33 Enchanter
Morok Thunderstone 30 Paladin
Ofcourse longblade of vitality is MUCH better with ratio and stats. But keep the main reasons in mind why people want a wurmy.
1st.
Wurmslayer is no UBER high level weapon like the blade of vitality. It's a starter weapon, and most people use it that way. You can use it from level 1 till low in the 50's. Longblade of vitality is recommanded lvl 56, which means it's pretty wothless at lower levels.
2nd.
Wurmslayer is VERY cheap in comparison to the longblade of vitality which is most of the time 10 or even more times wurmslayers value.
Just because there are some better weapons around doesn't mean you shouldn't go for a wurmy.
just a tip:
If you want a good cheap high level weapon for a pally (Recom 53), look for the:
"mace of the fallen crusader" 21/25
(I believe it's called like that)
I know it's 1hb and no 1hs. But with a lil luck you can buy it in the bazaar really cheap (500-1000pp) and that's still a LOT cheaper then the longblade of vitality.
Just my 2 coppers,
Love,
Wandriana Noamuth 57 Necromancer
Zagrum Doomcrusher 54 Shadowknight
Fenror Bloodbasher 54 Beastlord
Perwin Aryet 34 Magican
Charisia Dreamsigh 33 Enchanter
Morok Thunderstone 30 Paladin
Outta poison, but not outta luck!
21 posts
/Agree the Mace of the Fallen Crusader is a rather nice weapon that is insanely cheap, but if you are anything like me and you havent trained your 1hb at all you are pretty much out of luck...
#Leadaira,
Posted: May 06 2003 at 4:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If your a pally or SK dont do the wurmy, look for the Longblade of Vitality, yeah its more pp, but its well worth your while, dont weigh as much as wurm either and better stats all the way around.
Now that I've stopped laughing, let me say the following:
I can't believe you are comparing a weapon that drops in HoH (tier three pop zone) with a weapon that is quested using KUNARK drops.
I can solo the wurmslayer quest with my 54 druid. I can't even get FLAGGED TO ENTER halls of honor.
BUY the longblade of vitality??? Never even seen one for sale. I'm sure it would be 50k at least on my server.
The poster above does a good job of explaining why this comparison is faulty.
BTW, I have a wurmy on my 33 Pally. Usually use an argent protector, but like to pull out the wurmy and a shield when fighting casters. Does a darn good job at that level.
I can't believe you are comparing a weapon that drops in HoH (tier three pop zone) with a weapon that is quested using KUNARK drops.
I can solo the wurmslayer quest with my 54 druid. I can't even get FLAGGED TO ENTER halls of honor.
BUY the longblade of vitality??? Never even seen one for sale. I'm sure it would be 50k at least on my server.
The poster above does a good job of explaining why this comparison is faulty.
BTW, I have a wurmy on my 33 Pally. Usually use an argent protector, but like to pull out the wurmy and a shield when fighting casters. Does a darn good job at that level.
4 posts
Okay, this says it can be equipped in the Range Slot with 20 range. What does it do there? Can you throw it? Why would you want to?
Edited, Thu May 1 10:44:52 2003
Edited, Thu May 1 10:44:52 2003
33 posts
if you equip it in your range slot you still get the stats, though I would recomend not haveing range attack hot keyed, and would advise unequiping it from ranged slot if chanter mobs are in the area as you would likely throw it first thing if charmed.
be safe and good hunting
be safe and good hunting
12 posts
Seeking to buy one of these on Bristlebane server
Rulyen Forestwanderer
Rulyen Forestwanderer
#Ronikin,
Posted: Apr 22 2003 at 4:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Whats your offer friend my warrior Quiken has one and will part with it for the right price
8 posts
Had this weapon for awhile and its good but not what I really expected...thought it would hit 100's but I guess my str's to low (150) instead I hit 70-80 and now at 40 I hit 75-95 and somtimes 100 when I'm really lucky and maybe even double 100 but later I going to sell this to make room for a Greenmist with is 18dmg 22dly less dmg but deals it faster
Xitakij
40 Shadow Knight
Lulaneal SpiritLies
36 Druid
Xitakij
40 Shadow Knight
Lulaneal SpiritLies
36 Druid
10 posts
should I wield Wurmy in primary and Bloodfire in secondary, or Bloodfire in primary and Centi LS in secondary?
will there be a big difference in the amount of time Bloodfire procs?
will there be a big difference in the amount of time Bloodfire procs?
30 posts
Blood fire and CLS will keep aggro MUCH, MUCH better.
21 posts
That's true but I would think his necessity to keep aggro should be based on his class, which he didn't specify. If he is a ranger I don't think he would want, or need, to keep aggro.
3 posts
OK guys my warr used this weopom for ever and mt stamina is 106 it still sinks like a rock in water sure i like big hits but when i started using my kunzar instead it over let me deal more damage personal statment no matter how much stamina u have with a wurmy it wont count >>>>>>>>>>>45 warrior ARDIAN rallos zek BB
Are you dumb? 100+ STA solves all of that. You don't need that yellow bar.
33 posts
I have noticed with my Ogre Warrior who has a 180 stamina that even with high end stam haveing empty bar dose effect you, albeit you do not get stats lowered but you do miss more often and when you hit the average damage is for less and at a slightly slower rate.
To compensate if you plan to solo in later levels (yes with proper gear you can still do it with a warrior) I would advise getting abrum's axe of the stoic as I've found the proc will refresh my stamina over 3 ticks, each one doing about 1/2 my stamina bar.... this is really handy when you are useing fast weapons.
50 Warrior...Tunare
To compensate if you plan to solo in later levels (yes with proper gear you can still do it with a warrior) I would advise getting abrum's axe of the stoic as I've found the proc will refresh my stamina over 3 ticks, each one doing about 1/2 my stamina bar.... this is really handy when you are useing fast weapons.
50 Warrior...Tunare
This weapon rocks with a little haste added to it. I used it since level 22 on my warrior with no haste. Just duel wielded the item. If you don't want it, I could use another one for my other character!!
My warrior is on Terris-Thule. One more question though. Will stamina be a bigger issue when fighting with wurmy and centi. somewhat of a problem now with the two centis.
As long as your STA is over 100, you will suffer no adverse effects from a drained stamina bar except for being unable to jump. No big deal.
2 posts
u would do more damage..and itmight be a pretty good combo..what server u on..ill trade u my wumry for a centi ls
Nick
I am currently a 28 warrior duel wielding two centi LS's (yeah, yeah twinkie). Wondering if it would be better to use a wurmy/centi combo instead of centi combo.
If you are soloing or grouped with a cleric you would most lilkly find that a wyrmie and a centi LS would be a slightly improved DPS from level 20 until you hit level 53 or so.
If you are trying to be the MA for an exp group, however, you may find that the weapons slow speed does not hold the aggro as well as you might like, and may have to swap to a procing or faster weapon in your Pri/Sec slots
If you are trying to be the MA for an exp group, however, you may find that the weapons slow speed does not hold the aggro as well as you might like, and may have to swap to a procing or faster weapon in your Pri/Sec slots
Huntress Samanthie Snowheart
Half-elf Karana Warder of Surefall Glade
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Half-elf Karana Warder of Surefall Glade
65 seasons and more -- sniffing the trails of Norrath
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18 posts
I just bought a wurmslayer last night, and decided to test it out on some underbulks in Echo caverns. Before I had be alternating between ghoulbane and an argent defender. I usually was able to win the fight faster using the argent, as it was hitting for more damage..Yes I understand that it is a 2hs that has a 49 delay, however, I was still winning faster, even though I was hitting more often with the ghoulbane (nothing to scoff at) which is a 15/34 weapon. NOT using any math (the best way to pick a weapon is to use it) I discovered that the argent was a "better" weapon to use against non-undead mobs because it did cause much more damage even though it was a "slow" weapon. So, I used the wurmslayer against the underbulks and was root kiting 4 at a time and found that this weapon is absolutely fantastic...I was doubling for 60's 70's and 80's , and combine that with 30+ point bashes, it blew the ghoulbane away (which used to be one of the best 1hs in the game some time ago) My next test was in Unrest, and I will not bore you with the details, but it should be called Chorrum's estate of unrest now. Wurmslayer+instrument of nife= absolute ownage. I will never regret owning this weapon at all, and if you buy it, it is a very good investment, as I seriously doubt you will lose money if you decide to sell it. In my opinion, this blows the centi lognsword away (people only get the cls for looks anyway) flame away on that, but remember, I said in my opinion, besides the centi does not add AC :)
Ride Si Sapis
Chorrum Hibernius
42 Paladin of Solusek Ro server
Chorrum Hibernius
42 Paladin of Solusek Ro server
11 posts
I have only one argument here. If you're looking to train 1h slashing quicker and still do a decent ammount of damage, the centi longsword works very well. Not that there aren't better, but I like it. =)
Rathan Kaiser
Rathan Kaiser
9 posts
You bring up a very good point here. If you're one of those classes who doesn't use a 1HS most of the time but just wants to keep it trained up, I'd go for a lighter faster weapon than a wurmy to train it quick, then get back to your main weapon skill. At 15 stones and a delay of 40, this is not going to win any prizes as a trainer weapon. For 1HS I keep a nice, inexpensive Sharpened Flotsam in my pack. It does the job quickly and does not take up much weight in your pack; you just have to be able to survive the low damage output.
Edited, Wed Jul 2 11:20:43 2003
Edited, Wed Jul 2 11:20:43 2003
Xorv
Enchanter of Firiona Vie
Enchanter of Firiona Vie
And i like it very much i have my 2hs maxed for my lvl and working on maxing 1hs now. i know a faster weapon would work better for that but its only like 5 points from max for me at 33 my max 1hs is 175 i think cuz my 2hs at 33 is maxed at 175. any way i have my dex, agi, sta, over 100 about 120 and i am finding that with either 1hs or 2hs i have a very hard time hitting a mob like i did at lower lvls should i increase my dex and agi? I dont have alot of pp to put into gear so most of my stuff is gotten either by hand me downs or getting it myself . when i say i dont have the plat to buy items i mean i on any of my char have never had over 1000pp. Any way that being not rrelevant, What should i do increase my dex and sta or agi and sta i cant remember what helps you hit more.
I got one of these on the Torvonnilous server for 1.2k, I quiet the game for a while, and now I'm back. So I dont know what these go for anymore but I know that I bought it a while back. And back then that was a good deal! On my 31 ranger my best hit with it ever has Been, 92, 68, 24, kick for 15.... Right in a row, with duel wield and double attack kicking in. I'm dueling wurmy and a centi SS and I love it, I hope to be getting a GJBS in replace of my wurmy.. Im giving wurmy to a friend.. Next to weight I still love it =P
"Your leggs Off."..."No it isn't"
......."thats just a bloody flesh wound."
Tazain Blackmontain <Ring Of Faith>
31 ranger of Tunare
"Your leggs Off."..."No it isn't"
......."thats just a bloody flesh wound."
Tazain Blackmontain <Ring Of Faith>
31 ranger of Tunare
4 posts
I recently had a friendly duel with a warrior of the same lvl as myself, he also had higher HP gear, a Kunzar Ku'juch and a Centi SS, while I had higher strength, an FBSS, a wurmyslayer, and a crystalline SS... He thought he could beat me since the wurny was "so slow". Well I am happy to announce that I pounded him into the ground, and when he came back after dying, I beat him a second time, he had full Hp, while my HP was only at 300 or so. Wurmy DOES more damage, I have been known as main assist to pull the aggro from warriors that were 7 lvls higher than myself, EITHOUT using taunt because I was regularly doing much MUCH more damage than they were... you can do all the math you want but the proof is in the game. Wurmy is better! end of story
2 posts
If you are at a lower level, thats the greatest aggrosteal.. Lower lvl equals aggro..
#Nimra,
Posted: Nov 29 2002 at 3:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) slow weapon are the best in pvp bcuz they get high dmg. on tallon an argent defender can goes for 1.3 to 1.7k bcuz its 33/49 and on blue server I often seen it for 350pp hehe.
IF wurmy was to be changed to offhand the price wpuld automatically double. The Wurmslayer is a damage machine, and I recommend int for any dual wielder 25 to 55. Carve away.
Skulreaver Swiftblade
60 Warder
60 Warder
Like said a THOUSAND times before. The ratio is amazing, and the price is just the same. Get yer stamina over 100 and go to town. Kid tested, mother approved.
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Skulreaver Swiftblade
60 Warder
60 Warder
#glennonesixtyfive,
Posted: Nov 09 2002 at 9:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i prefer dark avenger.........2Hs, awsome ratio......nice proc.......great graphic.....and nathsar is still better......!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course you prefer a 2HS over a 1HS, since you're a SK. SKs never get duel wield, although this weapon would still be useful if you are under 30, because of the damage cap.
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Hello, I just wanted to add something to this string. I started to use the wurmmy at lvl 25ish. I loved this weapon and used it all the way to about 45, at 45 and around that time, as a warrior comes into his or her own, you will start looking for a faster weapon because your job as a warrior is to keep the damage on you. I started to carry a Lammy in primary and centi short in secondary, this combo proved very nice, but yes the Centi short is no weapon to write home about and to me the centi LS is a tad slow and now and days Hard to find. At lvl 53 I normally use a Guard captains Mallet in primary and a lammy in secondary, this combo has proven very nice for damage and holding taunt. So, at 53 I decided to dust off the ol' Wurmmy and give it a swing in the RM against those rich giants, (hard to solo as a warrior). I found out that the Wurmmy is doing a helluva lot more damage at my current lvl than lvls long past. To solo the RM giants or when I am NOT the MT in a group or raid situation I use the wurmmy primary and Mallet secondary, if I am the MT I use the Mallet and Lammy. Anyways what I am trying to say is that when you move up in lvls take some time to rediscover the wurmmy, you may be very suprised.
Take Care all
Thorno Ironfaith
53 Warrior Terris Thule
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Take Care all
Thorno Ironfaith
53 Warrior Terris Thule
Officer of Valor Reborn (my family)
Wurmy's IMO are great for rangers, but for warriors they suxorz. U need a low delay in ur primary to keep taunt. The only way i've seen a war keep taunt with a wurmslayer, was when he was duel wieldin a wurmy and a velium swiftblade(5/24 Effect:haste) the swiftblade hsa crap ratio but a 41% haste, cutting the wurmys delay to about 24. My 43 Warrior atm Is duel wieldin a frostbringer and a sarnak parrying blade, and i have no problem keepin taunt over a war w/ wurmy.
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you are so wrong dude
you ALWAYS want low dly in both prim and secondary and a proc somewhere between there as a warr
high dmg, high ratio weapons are for rangers
plus a frekin flowing red silk sash are only 6% haste
you ALWAYS want low dly in both prim and secondary and a proc somewhere between there as a warr
high dmg, high ratio weapons are for rangers
plus a frekin flowing red silk sash are only 6% haste
> high dmg, high ratio weapons are for rangers
I totaly agree here: as a 51 RNG I'm FAR better off with a Wurmy than with a Lamy in PRIM, and an underated Venomous Axe in SEC (11/24 AC10 with a 85 Poison DD proc that I yet have to see resisted).
Sure the Lammy's delay's nice, but I got low hits that maxed out in the low 40s with it (137 STR) while I really often hit for 100-110 with the Wurmy.
Last I've noticed that my skills didn't raise that much faster with a Lammy than with my regular 11/24 weapon
:-)
Edited, Tue Dec 10 14:06:47 2002
I totaly agree here: as a 51 RNG I'm FAR better off with a Wurmy than with a Lamy in PRIM, and an underated Venomous Axe in SEC (11/24 AC10 with a 85 Poison DD proc that I yet have to see resisted).
Sure the Lammy's delay's nice, but I got low hits that maxed out in the low 40s with it (137 STR) while I really often hit for 100-110 with the Wurmy.
Last I've noticed that my skills didn't raise that much faster with a Lammy than with my regular 11/24 weapon
:-)
Edited, Tue Dec 10 14:06:47 2002
#armymedics,
Posted: Oct 13 2002 at 10:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) one question, do people just pull these equations outa their arses? if not, where do they come from
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I see many of you like to do calculation on paper and think they are the total truth in game. Well I here to tell you throw all the calculation out. I have a 52 Ogre Warrior and I own with a WS in primary. I hardly ever have to hit taunt even with rogues in my group. I have repeatly taken argo from warrior i higher lvl then me wielding Lammys and many other combinations of weapon. I personally have tried many different combinations of weapons. Yet I can not do as much damage with any combination without a WS in my primary. I have alot of difficulty soloing without the WS. So if you are a large races the WS is the best no drop weapon readily availible to you. I have found though that if your stamina is blow 200 you have alot of difficulty wielding this weapon to its full effectiveness. This is just my 2cp worth because im tired of all the people using useless calculation that rally dont mean anything in game because alot of factors are no figured into thier calulations
Zumlaan Ogre 52 Champion
Zumlaan Ogre 52 Champion
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I've got a newish Ogre warrior now Lv25 and was wondering what sort of damage I'm likely to do with my Wummy in the higher levels? - I've put as many stat points as I could at character creation into str. I believe my current str is 178 unbuffed.
Edited, Thu Oct 17 01:55:18 2002
Edited, Thu Oct 17 01:55:18 2002
Lythas - Dark Lord of Malador
I seem to hit around 1-63. Although the weapon is not at it's full potential, because the last damage cap is lifted at level 30.
I'm currently using it on my Alt Pally. Once he's 30, I'll be switching to a 2 handed weapon, since paladins don't have duel weild :(.
I'm currently using it on my Alt Pally. Once he's 30, I'll be switching to a 2 handed weapon, since paladins don't have duel weild :(.
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when you compare the damage ratio to a weapon like centi longsword it gets damn hard to tell. its all based on luck when you get 2 weapons with ratios this close. on a successful 2 round double attack quad the minimum damage for centi is 100 with a max of 200. while the centi does this, wurmy does 1 round and takes a few more mila- seconds to have another round. its all based on luck. centi ls has the potential to be more damaging then wurmy over time, while the wurmy itself is good for delivering solid amount of damage in a instant. keep in mind haste on weapons with high delay tends to work more effectively.
in the case of failure to connect a whole 2.7 seconds is lost for wurmy. only about 1.3 for centi ls. these arent exactly numbers. if your a paladin or sk there can only be a single 1hs used.
in the case of failure to connect a whole 2.7 seconds is lost for wurmy. only about 1.3 for centi ls. these arent exactly numbers. if your a paladin or sk there can only be a single 1hs used.
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At lvl 53 with 204str i have my best hits are 116 regular hit 224 critical hit and 330 crippling hit but for the most part i average arounf 75 per hit
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Here are some sample calculations.
Additional assumptions:
Assume a 1hs damage bonus of 9. (mid 50s char)
20% of slashes will be missed.
Haste item 22% (Silver Chitin Hand Wraps)
Group situations: Chanter 64% haste.
Lammy has a 9/19 base, 18/19 adj with bonus, with 22% haste ratio is 18/15.57. Slashes/min = 38.5. Misses 20% = 6 for 32.12 hits/min. Hits/min 32.12 * Damage 18 = 585.72 DPM.
Wurmy has 25/40 base, 34/40 adj with bonus, with 22% haste ratio is 34/32.79. Slashes/min = 18.5. Misses 20% = 3 for 15.25 Hits/min. Hits/min 15.25 * Damage 34 = 518.5 DPM.
Group situations:
Add chanter haste 64% (distributed), using above formula, and the results are:
Lammy 900 damage/min
Wurmy 850 damage/min
If you get faster haste items in a group setting with chanter hastes to exceed 64%, the Lammy does not get any faster (1.0 sec swing rate cap), and the Wurmy does. So, if you were an uber group with max haste and quickness buffs, you could potentially drive a formula in which the Wurmy could increase its DPM to greater than that of the Lammy.
I agree that they are both great weapons, and it is a matter of choice and preference. I happen to like the quick wood-elf rangerish speed. Some lumbering types would likely prefer the big blast effect of a Wurmy that does damage in the 100s.
Also note that at lower levels, the damage bonus for 1hs weapons is much less. In those situations, the Wurmy fares MUCH better, and is the mathematically better weapon until the damage bonus = 6 for 1hs.
Same formula:
At Damage bonus = 0
Lammy has a 9/19 base, with 22% haste ratio is 9/15.57. Slashes/min = 38.5. Misses 20% = 6 for 32.12 hits/min. Hits/min 32.12 * Damage 9 = 289 DPM.
Wurmy has 25/40 base, with 22% haste ratio is 25/32.79. Slashes/min = 18.5. Misses 20% = 3 for 15.25 Hits/min. Hits/min 15.25 * Damage 25 = 381 DPM.
Wurmslayer 381 DPM
Lamentation 289 DPM
So you can see, until you get to high levels, Wurmslayer may be the mathematically better weapon, but at higher levels, the Lammy edges it out.
Another consideration is that in the off-hand in for a duel wielding character, damage bonuses do NOT apply. So one could argue that the Wurmy would ALWAYS be the better weapon in the off-hand.
Edited, Fri Oct 4 17:48:12 2002
Additional assumptions:
Assume a 1hs damage bonus of 9. (mid 50s char)
20% of slashes will be missed.
Haste item 22% (Silver Chitin Hand Wraps)
Group situations: Chanter 64% haste.
Lammy has a 9/19 base, 18/19 adj with bonus, with 22% haste ratio is 18/15.57. Slashes/min = 38.5. Misses 20% = 6 for 32.12 hits/min. Hits/min 32.12 * Damage 18 = 585.72 DPM.
Wurmy has 25/40 base, 34/40 adj with bonus, with 22% haste ratio is 34/32.79. Slashes/min = 18.5. Misses 20% = 3 for 15.25 Hits/min. Hits/min 15.25 * Damage 34 = 518.5 DPM.
Group situations:
Add chanter haste 64% (distributed), using above formula, and the results are:
Lammy 900 damage/min
Wurmy 850 damage/min
If you get faster haste items in a group setting with chanter hastes to exceed 64%, the Lammy does not get any faster (1.0 sec swing rate cap), and the Wurmy does. So, if you were an uber group with max haste and quickness buffs, you could potentially drive a formula in which the Wurmy could increase its DPM to greater than that of the Lammy.
I agree that they are both great weapons, and it is a matter of choice and preference. I happen to like the quick wood-elf rangerish speed. Some lumbering types would likely prefer the big blast effect of a Wurmy that does damage in the 100s.
Also note that at lower levels, the damage bonus for 1hs weapons is much less. In those situations, the Wurmy fares MUCH better, and is the mathematically better weapon until the damage bonus = 6 for 1hs.
Same formula:
At Damage bonus = 0
Lammy has a 9/19 base, with 22% haste ratio is 9/15.57. Slashes/min = 38.5. Misses 20% = 6 for 32.12 hits/min. Hits/min 32.12 * Damage 9 = 289 DPM.
Wurmy has 25/40 base, with 22% haste ratio is 25/32.79. Slashes/min = 18.5. Misses 20% = 3 for 15.25 Hits/min. Hits/min 15.25 * Damage 25 = 381 DPM.
Wurmslayer 381 DPM
Lamentation 289 DPM
So you can see, until you get to high levels, Wurmslayer may be the mathematically better weapon, but at higher levels, the Lammy edges it out.
Another consideration is that in the off-hand in for a duel wielding character, damage bonuses do NOT apply. So one could argue that the Wurmy would ALWAYS be the better weapon in the off-hand.
Edited, Fri Oct 4 17:48:12 2002
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lol, maybe u would be right on ur last comment, about it being better in the offhand, IF IT COULD BE USED IN THE OFFHAND,
think before u say something
think before u say something
half elf warrior(not many of those on Innoruk) - str at 173 with wurmy and centi ls- have an FBSS (ring of goblin lords before that) at lvl 32 I've been getting crit's for 151. I regularly hit for 60+. Most of the double attacks that i get off read like :
you slashed a ' ' for 85
' 'for 70
' 'for 40
' 'for 40
every now and then I get a 'normal ' hit for 115.
I've owned this wurmmy since I was lvl 25.
p.s. I've had folks I group with say 'you hit for how much with that wurmy?' while they are reading the text.
Edited, Fri Sep 27 16:33:43 2002
you slashed a ' ' for 85
' 'for 70
' 'for 40
' 'for 40
every now and then I get a 'normal ' hit for 115.
I've owned this wurmmy since I was lvl 25.
p.s. I've had folks I group with say 'you hit for how much with that wurmy?' while they are reading the text.
Edited, Fri Sep 27 16:33:43 2002
Tolwe Tintowelinto
Steel Warrior <Ancient Dark Lords>
Steel Warrior <Ancient Dark Lords>
#zruck,
Posted: Sep 27 2002 at 3:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok most people are missing the point here. The damage calculations look nice on paper, but let's look at the actual game. How many times would you swing with a Lammy in 1 minute not hasted, and how many times with a Wurmslayer. The Lammy's Delay is 19 that is measure in 10th of a second. You will swing the Lammy 31.6 times in 1 minute and the Wurmy 15. Now let's figure in misses if you miss 6 times with each then you hit 24 times with the Lammy and 9 with the Wurmy. now take the possible damage. Using base damages only 216 with the Lammy and 225 with the Wurmy. Ok so with the wurmy you get 9 more damage in 1 minute. Then you figure in haste like so. New (hasted) Delay = (delay/1+haste percentage) so if you have an FBSS which is 21% haste your equation would look like so with a Lamentation. 19/1.21= 15.7 (rounded up to 16). So, it is really up to you as to what you want to use. Personally I say Lammy in primary and Centi in off hand. This is a much better combination. A higher damage is nice but the delay hurts in the long run. Figure in misses to hits and if you can swing faster and hit a little more often with a little less damage you will in turn over time deal much more damage. Also another thing that many don't figure in is weight. Also, with that higher delay, how many more times are you getting hit and taking more damage??? I hope I didn't confuse anyone any more. I will also show you how to figure swings per minute. SPM= 60 /(Delay/10) so plug in the numbers from Lamentation SPM= 60/(19/10) so 60/1.9 = 31.6. Sorry to carry on so much and I will probably be flamed and ranted, but I don't care. Some may disagree with what I said, but all in all it falls into 3 categories 1. What you want to use. 2. What fits best in the situation. 3. What works best to your style of fighting. I am not flaming the Wurmy or anything else. Once you reach higher levels, many of these variables change drastically. But, having a Warrior with a STR and STA of 214 unbuffed at lvl 11 (yes I am twinked slightly) I would rather stick with a lower damage/delay weapon due to the fact that misses usually outweigh the hits and at lower level it pays to have a weapon with a lot lower delay that may not do as much damage, but you get many more chances to hit. This is just my 2cp. Flame me if you must.
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There is a flaw in your calculations. You said, "The Lammy's Delay is 19 that is measure in 10th of a second. You will swing the Lammy 31.6 times in 1 minute and the Wurmy 15. Now let's figure in misses if you miss 6 times with each then you hit 24 times with the Lammy and 9 with the Wurmy."
The RATIO of hits to misses should be the same, not the count of raw misses. In other words, if the Wurmy misses 6/15, or 40% of the time then the Lammy will miss 40% for like 12 or 13 misses out of 31.6. I would say the Wurmslayer is better for non-tanks for its higher DPS until sometime after level 50 when the dmg bonus might catch up.
The RATIO of hits to misses should be the same, not the count of raw misses. In other words, if the Wurmy misses 6/15, or 40% of the time then the Lammy will miss 40% for like 12 or 13 misses out of 31.6. I would say the Wurmslayer is better for non-tanks for its higher DPS until sometime after level 50 when the dmg bonus might catch up.
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your forgetting things like riposte...higher dmg primary means higher riposte dmg. And that can add up and help much.
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No Riposte double and triple attacks were not figured in on any of these equations. There it depends on that skill lvl of the player. So just as I was looking at it, those don't even factor in because being random as they are it is difficult to add these in. As was said in the post "Once you reach higher levels, many of these variables change drastically". So in answer to your post is this... No they weren't forgotten, they were omitted because it is not a constant. And one other thing to add is this. Are you more likely to riposte more with a lower delay weapon or a higher delay weapon. Yes the riposte damage will be more with a higher damage weapon. But my whole point of the post was "all in all it falls into 3 categories 1. What you want to use. 2. What fits best in the situation. 3. What works best to your style of fighting." So again it is personal prefrence. If you want a 1hs high damage high delay with a good ratio, the wurmy is the way to go. Here again, it boils down to personal prefrence, and that is all anyone can say. Me, I PREFER a high damage low delay weapon say for instance Centi LS and Velium Swiftblade. At lvl 18 36% haste suits me just fine to Crit for 60+ damage with the Centi LS. But that is what I like
Who cares if they aren't constant? They do help with the damage ratio over time. Think about it an extra hit, with that high delay. Who cares if you have a fast wpn and you get an extra hit.
Better ratios, with high damage output are the way to go for high levels (+30).
Better ratios, with high damage output are the way to go for high levels (+30).
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I dont care about ratios, dps, and haste crap. Its quite simple! My attack is 924. Now, I use SCHW, and any haste I get, I know I'm hitting faster. I'm just here to swing my wurmy and centi ls, dont care how often I hit or miss, cuz I am certainly doing more damage, and holding aggro (without hitting taunt) than the rest of the group.
My 2cp, flame on.
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My 2cp, flame on.
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Geez, you folks think too much, I kinda like the whole dmg/dly thing, and I'm not really interested in timers, counting, etcetera. "Math sucks. who cares what the square root of the wurmy when you mix it with a centi long sword." Will I live to fight another day? Most likely. Will I hold aggro? Probably so. My case is solved...keep arguing folks, I enjoy a good bloodbath >:)
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this weapon is so huge shouldn't it be 2Hslashing? looks kind of ridiculous duel wieldin this :P but its a awsome weapon, wish i could get one
Shutup! verant might actually make it 2hs! jeez why don't ya tell him to make a kickass weapon that no one can use while your at it...oh wait verant already did that oh well
To: Verant
From: Cartman
t( >.< t )
To: Verant
From: Cartman
t( >.< t )
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if you are on the sayrn server keep reading.My cousin would like to buy a wurmmy for 800pp his charater is duwin.He's in gfay or unrest.If he ask's how you found out he wanted one just say zordon told you.
zordon lvl 13 pally
Edited, Sat Sep 21 19:20:05 2002
zordon lvl 13 pally
Edited, Sat Sep 21 19:20:05 2002
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I am i need of great help. I am a lvl 31 warrior on vallon zek server (PVP). And I love pking peeps. So i need to know what wep combo would be best for pking. i am tight on cash. I was thinking of going with PRI=WURM SEC=CLS But I also need to hold agrro when i'm in groups. Please help me out, thanks.
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Hmmmmm well hear is one example of a wurmy in a Pk situation. Shortly after I reached level 35 my level 39 mage friend asked me for a friendly duel. Being up for a good time I agreed. Now I'm a ranger, with lower magic resists than usual because I don't have the worlds greatest gear. To make things fair I didn't allow the mage to summon a pet. The battle was short and sweet and I was the victor (surviving with only 50 HP left). I can double hit with a wurmy for around 120 damage, scares the pants off of casters, that's a huge chunk of their hp. But if your going to be pk'n against melee types I'd have to consider something a little faster. Cause while your sitting their standing still they hit you twice with their lammy/centi ls.
So this is what it boils down to. If you want the wow factor in you PK battles buy a wurmy and chose you PK battles wisely. If you want the win factor get two low delay weapons. You'll hold your own in a pk match and still be worth a lick of salt in a group. You'll work better with two low delay weapons cause your a warrior, it's just a rule of thumb.
So this is what it boils down to. If you want the wow factor in you PK battles buy a wurmy and chose you PK battles wisely. If you want the win factor get two low delay weapons. You'll hold your own in a pk match and still be worth a lick of salt in a group. You'll work better with two low delay weapons cause your a warrior, it's just a rule of thumb.
To "make it fair" the mage couldn't summon a pet??
Then to make it fair, you should have taken off your armor.
I'd HOPE you could beat a mage without pet. BTW, if you had a faster weapon, you would have interrupted him more.
Then to make it fair, you should have taken off your armor.
I'd HOPE you could beat a mage without pet. BTW, if you had a faster weapon, you would have interrupted him more.