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Scars of VeliousScholar
45 posts
To all those whining that the ac on this thing is only +18, lest u forget that agi = ac and +13 agi is very nice and hard to find on any item (unless u buy lots of augs to go with it)
At the time, 18ac for a monk chest piece wasn't too bad at all.
Last time I did a comparison, (long long ago actually), 2 agi translated to 1 ac.
Last time I did a comparison, (long long ago actually), 2 agi translated to 1 ac.
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22 posts
just how rare of a drop is this tunic? got all sorts of diamonds, just waitin oin a raid for the tunic or a weird mq. just tryin to get some info on it
29 posts
Ok, here's is the Velious rundown:
Thurgadin quest armor drops in Kael (eroded)
Kael quest armor drops in TOV (ancient)
Skyshrine quest armor drops in TOV also, but a different part, I'm pretty sure it all drops in HOT (unadorned)
If I'm wrong feel free to correct me
Thurgadin quest armor drops in Kael (eroded)
Kael quest armor drops in TOV (ancient)
Skyshrine quest armor drops in TOV also, but a different part, I'm pretty sure it all drops in HOT (unadorned)
If I'm wrong feel free to correct me
#orangemilk,
Posted: Dec 02 2002 at 5:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, here's is the Velious rundown:
One way to look at this bp is the stats. I do a search with str*1 agi*1 dex*1 and it comes in second place. First place goes to Wistful Tunic of the Void and wins by one point. I was just wondering how a monk performs with armour focused on those stats, rather then the ac/hp thing. Well most equipment with high agi dex str generally have ac/hp tacked on so I think it would be hard to find out for sure.
2 posts
I have looked all over for Konawin Fe' Dhar and cant find him i found 10 other mobs with same lastname but not him help me out please!!!
he is in the "questroom" in Skyshrine. All i know (because i have only been there once and was following someone) is that we ran a LONG way through a maze to get there. The room is rather nondescript other than it has lines of mobs on each side. These are the quest mobs. Komawin is the last one on the right side as you enter the room. Hope this helps.
2 posts
i prefer hp and resists to ac when raiding hi end dungeons
Edited, Mon May 27 16:45:52 2002
Edited, Mon May 27 16:45:52 2002
Scholar
22 posts
The person that wrote the 4 mobs that hit for 200 dmg each, did not say he brought it to the group. I am quite sure he meant just running into a room that has 4 mobs that hit for 200 dmg each that's 800 dmg in 1 second.
I agree though, HP and Resists are more important. I have never pulled ToV, but I have pulled other mobs that hit for 800 ish and cast some nice spells :) And I myself am a lvl 55 monk doesn't matter how much AC I have the mobs always seem to hit about the same ammount. And full large raid buffs from cleric shaman ranger I top out around 1200ac or so, and without buffs around 1050 still same hits with 1200ac or 1050ac. Only thing saving my behind on pulls is my 171 agility, You Block, You Block, You Dodge, You Riposte. Over and over. :)
I agree though, HP and Resists are more important. I have never pulled ToV, but I have pulled other mobs that hit for 800 ish and cast some nice spells :) And I myself am a lvl 55 monk doesn't matter how much AC I have the mobs always seem to hit about the same ammount. And full large raid buffs from cleric shaman ranger I top out around 1200ac or so, and without buffs around 1050 still same hits with 1200ac or 1050ac. Only thing saving my behind on pulls is my 171 agility, You Block, You Block, You Dodge, You Riposte. Over and over. :)
42 posts
Invigorate
Increase Hit Points (HP) from 71 (L1) to 100 (L30)
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Classes: None
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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: Self
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Range to Target: 100 feet
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Resistance Check: None
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Mana Required: 60
Spell Duration: Instant
Casting Time: 3.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds
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Spell cast on you: You feel much better.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso looks invigorated
All in All I'd have to say it's a real nice tunic
and peep who say fungi are better are crazy, cause this is aninstant free 100pt heal
(less than a tick to cast and wait for rescast time to lapse) threfore it is approx 100pt per tick while not in combat.
but then...what do i know my monk is only lvl 20
and of course doesn't even have a Fungi yet...
-Gses Krist 20th Monk of the Quellious server
Increase Hit Points (HP) from 71 (L1) to 100 (L30)
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Classes: None
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Skill: Alteration
Allowable Targets: Self
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Range to Target: 100 feet
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Resistance Check: None
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Mana Required: 60
Spell Duration: Instant
Casting Time: 3.0 seconds
Spell Recovery: 2.50 seconds
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Spell cast on you: You feel much better.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso looks invigorated
All in All I'd have to say it's a real nice tunic
and peep who say fungi are better are crazy, cause this is aninstant free 100pt heal
(less than a tick to cast and wait for rescast time to lapse) threfore it is approx 100pt per tick while not in combat.
but then...what do i know my monk is only lvl 20
and of course doesn't even have a Fungi yet...
-Gses Krist 20th Monk of the Quellious server
You forgot to take into account the Item cast time. Having plenty of clicky gear (but not this one in particular) all buff spells that are on items take a minimum of 9 seconds, and can go upward of 20 seconds. Tolan's BP, which has a Gfay gate, takes 18 seconds to cast, for instance.
In the interest of heals, and being a monk, I would much rather have a fungi which will always be healing me, even when FD. FD regen will be your friend at 45+. I've been known to being laying down on the job for 3-5 minutes waiting for HP's to get high enough to commence with the split of mobs that don't reset.
Otherwise, this is an all around nice Tunic. AC is rather nice and stats are always a plus. As a monk, ya take what you can get when trying to stay under weight.
Edited, Sat Mar 30 14:24:13 2002
In the interest of heals, and being a monk, I would much rather have a fungi which will always be healing me, even when FD. FD regen will be your friend at 45+. I've been known to being laying down on the job for 3-5 minutes waiting for HP's to get high enough to commence with the split of mobs that don't reset.
Otherwise, this is an all around nice Tunic. AC is rather nice and stats are always a plus. As a monk, ya take what you can get when trying to stay under weight.
Edited, Sat Mar 30 14:24:13 2002
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Thats the funniest thing i ever heard )True, but funny as hell
3 posts
Sorry Dienu, at 52 you will not beable to obtain this tunic. It can be MQed, but it would take a guild that has them for all there higher levels first. Maybe an uber guild may have outfitted all their high 50s and 60s already, but based on how often I have seen the leather tunic drop, not very likely.
The drops are random in ToV (HOT mobs). For most classes the min level to go here is 55, maybe 54 if you are a cleric, chanter, or druid. Mob AEs are for up to 300 every few rounds it seems. It is a rare drop as most drops are plate. Makes sence since more classes need plate drops. For shammy they really need to be 58 to 60 to stick their slows on the mobs.
As for the diamonds? SG, DN, WW zone mobs drop them. Maybe Velk will drop them too, not sure though.
The drops are random in ToV (HOT mobs). For most classes the min level to go here is 55, maybe 54 if you are a cleric, chanter, or druid. Mob AEs are for up to 300 every few rounds it seems. It is a rare drop as most drops are plate. Makes sence since more classes need plate drops. For shammy they really need to be 58 to 60 to stick their slows on the mobs.
As for the diamonds? SG, DN, WW zone mobs drop them. Maybe Velk will drop them too, not sure though.
aye they do drop in velks
20 posts
Aright look, people keep saying "this armor sucks just like all monk armor because it has low ac" Hey guess what?! If you want to be the iron-clad bulky *** fighter.... GO BE A WARRIOR! if you want to be quick, hard hitting, with agi/dex/sta/str hovering around 200, and NOT worrying so damn much about your ac, which has natural boosts anway, then be a monk. Simple as that. Just because you're a melee class doesn't mean that low ac = crappy armor. monks are meant to side-step incoming attacks, while dealing not only massive amounts of attacks, but massive amounts of damage with each attacks. Monks are by FAR the biggest damage dealers melee wise in all of Norrath. You don't believe it? See how long you last against an ashenhand the next time you see a grand master
#Anonymous,
Posted: Oct 13 2001 at 10:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You don't pull much do you, Everblend? If you did you'd realise that you need extreme amounts of AC to survive large pulls, if you can pull singles it's not so important. How about you pull 4 things that all hit for roughly 200 damage per attack, now where's your thresh-hold for damage taking? It's your AC. Maybe AC isn't as important in the low end of the game, but come the later portion you'll change your mind.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Sep 27 2001 at 3:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Actually, no, monks don't deal the most damage in the game, rogues hold that title. Rogues are however limited by having restrictions in their location in reference to the mob they are fighting, i.e. having it's back. However, with VI changing alot of things pertaining to melees monks will come very near the rogues damage output. Personally I think it's a shame, it's basically a nerf of the rogue class. With the ac bonus for monks they will have equivalent ac to rogues (hell, I've not met a monk my level with lower ac then me and I'm a melee), they have defensive disciplines which help them immensly in not getting hit and they don't have the spacial limitation of the rogues. Guess rogues will still be needed for crypt groups in Seb and to some extent for CR but I'd go with a monk as damage dealer any day after the changes.
Anonymous
ummm... monks are supposed to have better ac than you.
In a perfect world, the way it is supposed to fall is:
Rogues = most damage + lesser AC
Monks = middle damage + middle AC
Warriors = lesser damage + most AC
of course, Norrath is not a perfect world...
In a perfect world, the way it is supposed to fall is:
Rogues = most damage + lesser AC
Monks = middle damage + middle AC
Warriors = lesser damage + most AC
of course, Norrath is not a perfect world...
ppl are stupid,im a 60 grandmaster with 120+days i have full white lotus.rogues are fun but dont out damage me at any time,true rogues BS but usually that gets the mob in there face i.e. no more BS and now with tripple attack monks OWN MELEE,monks dont need much ac as i almost never get hit by mobs bottom line!and as for pulls u need resists to be high because nigh every mob cast when ure 55+
when the opponent expands i contract and when he contracts i expand...be like water my friend..bruce lee
when the opponent expands i contract and when he contracts i expand...be like water my friend..bruce lee
31 posts
Take a look at the damage logs recorded for long duration fights. As for BS usually getting mobs into the rogues faces... you might look at the skill called Evade.
In long duration fights, rogues consistantly outdamage monks, regaurdless of how much white lotus gear they have.
In long duration fights, rogues consistantly outdamage monks, regaurdless of how much white lotus gear they have.
5 posts
Alright This post is for all you "experts" who know so much about the high-end monk role in the game. Especially with velious AC is making ALOT less difference than HPs . . if you are pulling a high level velious mob on a raid then you are more than likely expecting to die or be FD for a good while to make sure the real tank has aggro off of you completely. With velious what REALLY matters is hitpoints and damage output, most mobs will hit you HARD regardless of AC so HPs are the only thing that can save you and EVERY HP counts, especially for AE attacks which is where resists come in. Any monk who says this tunic sucks doesn't really know what they are talking about because monks arent supposed to aggro in UBER encounters for the only thing that matters when taking down them dragons are you resists and your HPs . .. . and the clerics chain healing the main tank =P So when you are high enough level to actually do the quest for this chest piece you should know the value of it. K thanks and any n00bs wanna flame this post go for it because you and your powerleveled twink monks would die within 30 seconds of any of my daily encounters
9 posts
Personally as a monk i'd go for hp first then ac then resists ... i'd take this over a fungi because in non-soloing situations because of the ac agi and hp , and if i'm pulling i'd just slip on my fungi when i'm fd. The str is nice for those flying kicks and the dex is great for all the new weapons comming out of luclin with the life tap effects. As for casters needing resists i think it's mostly not worth it since most of the time their out of the AE range hiding behind a wall.
38 posts
AC = KING. having 1300 AC comapared to say 1100 AC helps A LOT while tanking a mob. Anyways, I'd love to have this tunic since my monk at 56 still solo's a lot (mainly LDC's in solb). But sadly the leather BP usually goes to druids since the effect helps a ton on raids aka benifits the guild the most.
Hm, just tell them like I did when the leather BP dropped. If the druids want to "aye" on it, let them pull from here on out because I won't.
"Cheaters never win, winners never get caught."
6 posts
Anyone have a picture of this on a human or iksar monk. Thanks
Anonymous
Still a ways to go untill i can even think about attaining this, but isnt Invigorate a kinda simple effect for something so vital to us Monks? That is until we get our whistling fists robe! Any response is apreciatted
Naw invigorate is great, I have it, helps me solo =)
Anonymous
Simple. the BP is hard to do , yes . the fungi regens your during the fight and has higher ac , right . the icicle , ice burrower skin or phase spider carapace havea more ac , true . aye aye ancient wyvern hide tunic outstands all of thoses on AC anyway.
But you've considered that this BP has friendly resists , and the heal on it smashes down fungi regen for dowtime purpose. so its always a cool item whatever whiner says . and anyway , since youre almost never given the choice of what you'll be wearing , stop whining , and enjoy what you get .
Landroval 57 Buffjunkie Monkey. Terris Thule
But you've considered that this BP has friendly resists , and the heal on it smashes down fungi regen for dowtime purpose. so its always a cool item whatever whiner says . and anyway , since youre almost never given the choice of what you'll be wearing , stop whining , and enjoy what you get .
Landroval 57 Buffjunkie Monkey. Terris Thule
Anonymous
Some people think that tanks are ONLY warriors, SK, or Pally.... This is wrong. I don't see them dodging 1/3 -2/3 of the attacks that mobs send them. I see them simply taking the hits and making that cleric cast. I see monks dodging those blows and with their HP/AD being able to stand the ground as well, saving the cleric 1 or 2 casts. Just give the monk a Chloro or Regrowth and your druid may be out a few minutes for mana, but your cleric will be happier. ASK ANYONE who groups with monks with fungi ;)
The Fungi Tunic with it's wonderful 21ac and 15 additional pts of regen per tick OUTCLASSES all other armor for a monk. The only thing that comes in next is that planer armor from regrowth. I have damn near NO down time soling blues and yellows at lvl 51 (YES with this tunic I can STILL SOLO!!!!) If the mob starts hitting hard I FD and heal faster than that SOB, get up and deal more damage, FD heal, mend pops etc. It dies I'm alive and WOW some people look surprised I could do it. At 51 I'm getting about 34pts of AC off that tunic, It's about 2ac on a monk for every 1ac on armor. Then every 3pts of AGI give another 1pt ac. Yea the -10 agi/dex suck, but OUTWIEGHED!!
Fungi is worth more than 60k to a monk who knows how to utalize it. I ALMOST was able to solo the frenzied ghoul in lower guk, without a sash. I was able to FD pull each frog to the entrance and murder them slowly, but that damn frenzie had tooo many hp and hit too hard to keep up. I did get a moonstone after having a nice shammy cast regrowth, AC/HP and stat buffs. He gave me quickness as a joke, but it's all I needed to murder that SOB :) But if I hadn't had those buffs and the tunic I don't think I'd have had the prayer to do it.
Ssvanti Scaleblood
51 Monk Morell-Thule
The Scaled Brotherhood
WITH FUNGI :)
The Fungi Tunic with it's wonderful 21ac and 15 additional pts of regen per tick OUTCLASSES all other armor for a monk. The only thing that comes in next is that planer armor from regrowth. I have damn near NO down time soling blues and yellows at lvl 51 (YES with this tunic I can STILL SOLO!!!!) If the mob starts hitting hard I FD and heal faster than that SOB, get up and deal more damage, FD heal, mend pops etc. It dies I'm alive and WOW some people look surprised I could do it. At 51 I'm getting about 34pts of AC off that tunic, It's about 2ac on a monk for every 1ac on armor. Then every 3pts of AGI give another 1pt ac. Yea the -10 agi/dex suck, but OUTWIEGHED!!
Fungi is worth more than 60k to a monk who knows how to utalize it. I ALMOST was able to solo the frenzied ghoul in lower guk, without a sash. I was able to FD pull each frog to the entrance and murder them slowly, but that damn frenzie had tooo many hp and hit too hard to keep up. I did get a moonstone after having a nice shammy cast regrowth, AC/HP and stat buffs. He gave me quickness as a joke, but it's all I needed to murder that SOB :) But if I hadn't had those buffs and the tunic I don't think I'd have had the prayer to do it.
Ssvanti Scaleblood
51 Monk Morell-Thule
The Scaled Brotherhood
WITH FUNGI :)
so i realize that this was forever ago but i have to say it.
I solo'd all the way to 55. No epic, no fungi. It's not that hard to do just requires brains.
And no I didn't do bats in SolB either. (although I found out later how easy they are..)
Now I have epic so I can't say I'd have been able to keep going without it, but still soloing, still don't have fungi.
I solo'd all the way to 55. No epic, no fungi. It's not that hard to do just requires brains.
And no I didn't do bats in SolB either. (although I found out later how easy they are..)
Now I have epic so I can't say I'd have been able to keep going without it, but still soloing, still don't have fungi.
8 posts
"and then thats NOT including the flying kick that can do 200 dmg!"
ummm ive never gotten over 130 without useing thunderkick, but thats just a waste.
ummm ive never gotten over 130 without useing thunderkick, but thats just a waste.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jun 08 2002 at 1:59 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well, stupid people hit again, highist kick i know of was 435, mine you that was a T kick that got a crit, yes it can happen i got a 384 myself, but ya that guy is stupid 200flying kick without disc of any kind. Wow i wish i could suck D*ck and lie too without droping the loob. k that was wrong o well, lazy monk can't hit backspace.
38 posts
I have 154 str with RotWF right clicky. the highest t-kick ive ever seen was 232 (i think, been awhile). T-kick sorta sucks. FK goes past 200 at 51+. My highest FK atm is 312 with /disc innerflame.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 15 2001 at 3:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what are you? level 2? if you can't do 200 damage with you're flying kick at lvl 50, then you've put your stats in the wrong place and you're probably just a numb newbie anyways, mister necromonk
You, sir, are a moron... please set your face on fire
Anonymous
Excuse me, but I am a level 54 Iksar Monk with 163 unbuffed STR. My flying kick skill is at 211 and I can only kick for about 120 tops. With total shaman buffs and Celestial Tranquility (I have around 230str and over 1200atk) my highest flying kick was around 175. With thunderkick activated I was able to kick for almost 280. A level 50 monk, even with 255 str, wouldn't be able to accomplish a 200dmg flying kick.
Rayjin Demon
E'ci
Rayjin Demon
E'ci
Anonymous
correct me if i am wrong, but doesnt the flying kick skill cap at 200?
21 posts
You're wrong.
Anonymous
Munks have good ac and can take the hits just as good if not better than most warriors. The reason monks are not Main tanks is HP. I'm a lvl 55 monk and buffed up a war/pal/sk have 1k+ more hp than i do. in high lvl groupd clerics Complete Heal to to get the HP to Mana ratio. So me at 2-3k hp (depending on the buffs) is not a good canidate for a CH. This forces the cleric to use more mana and have more down time. That is the reason Monks don't Tank well. I mostly use resist gear at all times and have ac gear in my tink bag if the tank dies or goes LD awhile. A monks job is Dammage and we suck at it if we get slowed during a pull and a force shock for 580hp hurts our low hp.
3 posts
Well, I've got to tell you, I play a monk and a cleric and and from what I've seen and done. A properly outfitted monk can make a perfectly good tank IF your cleric knows what they are doing. Yes, a warrior is better with Cheal on a hp/mana ratio, but a monk hits so freaking fast, and so often, that many times you can keep your monk alive in a long fight by simply casting Mark of Karn on the mob. I've been grouping with a monk on my server who has recently attained Grand Master status, and I have MANY times kept him alive using only Celestial heal, and MoK. I personally think that a monk is a perfectly viable tank, as long as the cleric responsible for them, knows how to properly use thier mana. Besides, how many times have you seen a warrior catch themselves on a CHeal?(yes, sometimes the mob gets in a few good hits and CHeal will be late) I like mend.
Exactly, Khaldron. You and the above poster, the 55 monk are quite right. Basically, for most exp camps, monks are plenty viable as main tanks. When it comes down to raids though you generally don't want monks as Main Tanks, cause most of those mobs will hit, regardless of a monk's higher avoidance normally. Hit and hit hard. 500+ consistent hits, especially when tripple or quad hits, just makes it less than a good situation for a monk to tank.
Warrior with 1-2 k more hp combined with defensive is why warriors are premier tanks, at high end raids. Also, not to forget the inability for monks to taunt on command. Warlords are great for that against all but the highest lvl mobs, where more discipline is required by the raid participants to not take agro from MT, or they'll die, period.
And for exp grouping, like has been said, monks can be great, so long as the cleric understands their MT is not a warrior and has different healing needs. =)
Warrior with 1-2 k more hp combined with defensive is why warriors are premier tanks, at high end raids. Also, not to forget the inability for monks to taunt on command. Warlords are great for that against all but the highest lvl mobs, where more discipline is required by the raid participants to not take agro from MT, or they'll die, period.
And for exp grouping, like has been said, monks can be great, so long as the cleric understands their MT is not a warrior and has different healing needs. =)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 15 2001 at 3:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) then why are you playing a monk if you think they suck so bad you dumb newbie?
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 15 2001 at 12:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hello :) i' m 52 monk , and i look all the eq site , and i find noooothing :( please !!!!! if there anyone who can give some reals informations about this quest ,or if you have to do the quest and you have the White lotus chest or other lotus armor, post here please :)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 25 2001 at 9:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I know why dont we just have the tunic cast summon level 60 shaman pet so they can buff us all to hell, yeah thats it, cmon! stop crying and play the game
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 19 2001 at 8:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Verant employees rather
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 19 2001 at 8:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ROFL!!!! this SUCKS@!
Anonymous
It's 189hp healed per cast...much faster heal then waiting around for 15 a tick on fungus. Plus those sick stats
52 Disciple
Zebuxoruk
52 Disciple
Zebuxoruk
49 posts
Monks get the greatest ac bonus there is, even more than warriors.
It may say 18ac, but with the bonus and the added ac from 13 agility, they are probably getting around 25 ac from this.
Talian Stormseeker
54 Ranger, Povar
It may say 18ac, but with the bonus and the added ac from 13 agility, they are probably getting around 25 ac from this.
Talian Stormseeker
54 Ranger, Povar
Anonymous
what's the casting time of invigorate on this tunic ?
the spell is the same on all items but the casting time varies so you must check with that specific tunic.
the spell is the same on all items but the casting time varies so you must check with that specific tunic.
Anonymous
Monks not dealing as much damage as a tank? You're hanging out with the wrong monks :)
Monk items are not meant to have high AC...18 is pretty darn nice for a monk chestpiece. AC, HP and HASTE are the holy trinity to Monks. With the high natural AC bonus Monks are given, monks can still have some VERY good AC's, so every point on an armor piece is valued. You'll find it alot more common to see a 50+ Monk with 1000+ AC over a 50+ tank, until they start finding REALLY uber items.
Monk items are not meant to have high AC...18 is pretty darn nice for a monk chestpiece. AC, HP and HASTE are the holy trinity to Monks. With the high natural AC bonus Monks are given, monks can still have some VERY good AC's, so every point on an armor piece is valued. You'll find it alot more common to see a 50+ Monk with 1000+ AC over a 50+ tank, until they start finding REALLY uber items.
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