Tainted Heartstone    

OK .... I was able to max out all my lang. execept "kobold" at lvl 56 and got all the max beniffits listed .. so not sure why its recommended for lvl 60

I have a 16 Druid that just finished mastering all languages and has the max stats already, no partial stats listed.




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Skoter
70 Beastlord
Xegony Server

Edited, Thu May 18 08:19:13 2006

I just did this and wrote down the languages I learned on my Wizard in the order with the stats(Had no mastered languages)

Elder Tier'Dal - HP: +6 Mana: +6 End: +6
Elder Elvish - AC: +1 Cha: +1 Wis: +1 Int: +1 Agi: +1 Fire Resist: +1 Cold Resist: +1 Magic Resist: +1 HP: +12 Mana: +12 End: +12
Thieves Cant - AC: +2 Cha: +2 Wis: +2 Int: +2 Agi: +2 Fire Resist: +2 Cold Resist: +2 Magic Resist: +2 HP: +18 Mana: +18 End: +18
Goblin - AC: +3 Cha: +3 Wis: +3 Int: +3 Agi: +3 Fire Resist: +3 Cold Resist: +3 Magic Resist: +3 HP: +24 Mana: +24 End: +24
Gnoll - AC: +4 Cha: +4 Wis: +4 Int: +4 Agi: +4 Fire Resist: +4 Cold Resist: +4 Magic Resist: +4 HP: +30 Mana: +30 End: +30
Combine Tongue - AC: +4 Cha: +4 Wis: +4 Int: +4 Agi: +4 Fire Resist: +5 Cold Resist: +5 Magic Resist: +5 HP: +36 Mana: +36 End: +36
Orcish - AC: +5 Cha: +5 Wis: +5 Int: +5 Agi: +5 Fire Resist: +6 Cold Resist: +6 Magic Resist: +6 HP: +42 Mana: +42 End: +42
Faerie - AC: +6 Cha: +6 Wis: +6 Int: +6 Agi: +6 Fire Resist: +7 Cold Resist: +7 Magic Resist: +7 HP: +48 Mana: +48 End: +48
Dragon - AC: +7 Cha: +7 Wis: +7 Int: +7 Agi: +7 Fire Resist: +8 Cold Resist: +8 Magic Resist: +8 HP: +54 Mana: +54 End: +54
Elder Dragon - AC: +8 Cha: +8 Wis: +8 Int: +8 Agi: +8 Fire Resist: +9 Cold Resist: +9 Magic Resist: +9 HP: +60 Mana: +60 End: +60
Dark Speech - AC: +8 Cha: +8 Wis: +8 Int: +8 Agi: +8 Fire Resist: +10 Cold Resist: +10 Magic Resist: +10 HP: +66 Mana: +66 End: +66
Lizardman - No Change
Froglok - No Change
Old Erudian - AC: +10 Cha: +10 Wis: +10 Int: +10 Agi: +10 Fire Resist: +12 Cold Resist: +12 Magic Resist: +12 HP: +75 Mana: +75 End: +75

14 Languages in about an hour and a half, Better then my wooden figurine (No stats) Hope this helps.

it says recommended level 60, that explains why stats are lower for some people

worth 1350 tribute points

If you are having trouble with getting your Heartstone to the max stats, try removing it and then replace it. I saw someone who had learned all the languages and was stuck at +8. He removed it and then replaced it and the stats went up to 10.

I saw this stone as a decent upgrade to the kobold charm that my three boxes had been carrying around for a year. I also had never done the language-thing before and was bored of AA grinding, so I bought two stones in the baz (one for 2k pp, the other for 1.5k pp) and started language skilling.

I began by making hotkeys for it. I made a marco button in the Socials page (in Actions) by typing "/gsay blah" (without the quotes) in all five lines. I then dragged a copy of the button to a Hotkey, then set that Hotkey to be pressed by an easily reachable keyboard key using the Options-Keys page (I chose the Numpad decimal key).

I then grouped my three boxes together, set each to speak their native language (in this case, barbarian, erudite and gnomish) and started tapping their hotkeys at a rate of about once per second. In about 10 mins, all three toons were skill 100 in all three languages. My erudite mage had previously skilled to 100 in froglok in a previous session and so I taught my other two toons that as well.

After this, I wondered how I would skill in those other languages without using up my precious training points. After playing around, I discovered what other posts have called "the ladder method" of language skilling. What it is, is that one toon can always teach language to another toon up to his own level plus one. For example, a toon at skill 5 can teach another toon to skill 6. Then the toon who was at 6 can teach the first toon to 7, who then teaches the other toon to 8, and so on until both are 100. Sweet.

For the next few hours, I skilled my toons. Here are things I noted as I progressed:

-the barbarian (a shaman) was consistantly slower to learn than the the erudite (mage) and gnome (sk). Since his wis is higher than the int of the gnome, the barbarian should have skilled faster. Based on this, I am convinced that only int (not the higher of int or wis) affects the skill rate of languages.

-the group window chats will say "tells the group in an unknown tongue..." until your language skill in that language reaches 25. After that, the chats will say "tells the group in goblin..." (or barabarian or whatever) and so identify what language is being spoken.

-Having 100 in barbarian, erudite, gnomish, froglok and old erudan did not increase the stone's stats.

-Sometime during the skilling of goblin (but before they reached 100), the stats went to +6 in hp, endurance and man.

-The stats at goblin 100 and faerie 2 was ac/cha/wis/int/agi +1, hp/end/mana +12, SV cold/fire/magic +1.

-At faerie 100, stats went to +2/+18.

-Skilling elder elvish did nothing.

-Skilling to gnoll +2 bumbed stats to +3/+24.

-Combine, dragon, elder dragon and dark elvish also increased all the stats.

-The rest of languages increased all or some of the stats...the languages were not consistant.

-After skilling my toons in all the languages they knew (each knew the same 23), ac/cha/wis/int/agi were +8, hp/mana/end were +60 and SV cold/fire/magic were +9. The languages they knew were:

Barbarian
Combine Tongue
Common Tongue
Dark Elvish
Dragon
Dwarvish
Elder Dragon
Elder Elvish
Elder TeirDal
Elvish
Erudian
Faerie
Froglok
Gnoll
Gnomish
Goblin
Halfling
Lizardman
Ogre
Old Erudian
Orcish
Troll
Vah Shir

Since the stone was not at the listed max, I looked at some posts here and at castersrealm and saw references to other languages. I found Thieves Cant on my rogue and after skilling my shaman in it, his stone hp/mana/end went up to +66 and the saves to +10.

I also found Dark Speech on my iksar and ogres and after skilling my shaman in it, his stone stats maxed.

There are references to a few other languages like Giant and Kobold and Dark Tongue, and that there are 26 languages, but I don't know where to find the other languages and don't know where to find this mysterious 26th language.

Good hunting,
Tamudan
BTW, each of my toons were over lvl 65 and started out with at least 1 point in every language.

Edited, Thu Oct 20 02:47:35 2005

my stats on this charm are now maxed at what they say they should be.....the last lang i just found out about is dark speech, which is now maxed, as well as all of them. if u would like to learn this speech, if i am free on server EM feel free to look up syrendipity. i will teach it to u, also, u can teach urself ANY lang up to 32 in a group. hope this helps everyone out a little

I maxed out all the uncommon languages and got max stats for my necro. I finished last night with all the uncommon languages and it said +8 stats and + 66 hp etc. then I logged back in tonight to finish the other languages and the stats were at maximum before I started. Apparently either the update this morning fixed it or just logging fixed it.
I also am not at level 60 but still have max stats.

Just for everyone's Information there is a 26th Language and it is called Unknown Tongue. If u do not belive this come the The Nameless server. Make a crap alt and send Zuvus a /tell.Just tell me what it is about and i will come prove it to u.

1)Common Tongue
2)Barbarian
3)Combine Tongue
4)Dark Speech
5)Dark Elvish
6)Dragon
7)Dwarvish
8)Elder Elvish
9)Elder Dragon
10)Elder Tier'Dal
11)Elvish
12)Erudian
13)Faerie
14)Froglok
15)Gnoll
16)Gnomish
17)Goblin
18)Halfling
19)Lizardman
20)Ogre
21)Old Erudian
22)Orcish
23)Thieves Cant
24)Troll
25)Vah Shir
26)Kobold
27) Akheva (Rumored) I have yet to find this language or anyone that can teach it... although I've only been looking for about 15 minutes.
28) An Unknown tongue - I have yet to verify this actually exists but on several threads I find people that claim to have learned and maxed this mythical secret language.

Over the last few days I've equiped the stone on some yoinger toons with no extra languages and then trained them and noted the power increases on the charm. I could only do this for 23 of the languages as I do not have Dragon and Elder Dragon yet.

There was one surprise in that Old Erudian did not give a power up.

Power Up
Thieves Cant. (11)
Elder Elvish. (13)
Goblin. (15)
Gnoll. (16)
Combine Tongue. (17)
Elder Teir'Dal. (18)
Orcish. (20)
Faerie. (21)

No Power up
Common Tongue. (1)
Barbarian. (2)
Erudian. (3)
Elvish. (4)
Dark Elvish. (5)
Dwarvish. (6)
Troll. (7)
Ogre. (8)
Gnomish. (9)
Halfling. (10)
Old Erudian. (12)
Lizardman. (19)
Dark Speech. (24)
Vah Shir. (25)


Not yet Tested

Dragon. (22)
Elder Dragon. (23)


This test was conducted after Sony stated that the Charm was fixed.

The +10 stats for the charm are now at +8 without the 2 Dragons which will take it to +10.

Also note that with none of the languages mastered you still get +6 to HP mana and End.

PS if anyone on AB wants to give one of my 24 lowish level toons Dragon or Elder Dragon, Whohoo.

Don

there were 26 langs ....all thinking its giant its not that is now combine.....dark elvish is what was tier'dal and the final one kobold which was the 26th language was removed they just havent updated this piece for the language change......and yes there is human but that is common tongue on servers that dont have human =-) good day and good hunting to you all.

Sorry Double Post

Edited, Tue Apr 19 23:13:56 2005

i know this might be a silly ? to most but i am new at game....how do u get up the lang skill..i got the charm given to me and i would really like to get stats up because they would really help out my toon...ty

Okay the stats are as follows:Cha+9,Wis+9,Int+9,
Agi+9,Hp+72,Mana+72,Endurance+72
Sv Cold+11,Sv Fire+11,Sv Magic+11 and here is all the languages:
1)Common Tongue
2)Barbarian
3)Combine Tongue
4)Dark Speech
5)Dark Elvish
6)Dragon
7)Dwarvish
8)Elder Elvish
9)Elder Dragon
10)Elder Tier'Dal
11)Elvish
12)Erudian
13)Faerie
14)Froglok
15)Gnoll
16)Gnomish
17)Goblin
18)Halfling
19)Lizardman
20)Ogre
21)Old Erudian
22)Orcish
23)Thieves Cant
24)Troll
25)Vah Shir
These are all the languages I was told and they are all mastered

Edited, Fri Mar 11 04:46:42 2005

Perhaps this could all be put to rest if the original poster of the information was contacted to see if the tainted heartstone still gives them the stats that are listed here. If they do then they can shed some light possible on how they got it, if not then Alla can just modify the info to show the new correct info. /lang 1-25 shows languages, after that nothing. I would guess that there was a language that has been removed so that max stats are no longer allowed.

OK got all 25 Langs Maxed 100 (ran a log of 1-25 today)
Common Tongue. (1)
Barbarian. (2)
Erudian. (3)
Elvish. (4)
Dark Elvish. (5)
Dwarvish. (6)
Troll. (7)
Ogre. (8)
Gnomish. (9)
Halfling. (10)
Thieves Cant. (11)
Old Erudian. (12)
Elder Elvish. (13)
Froglok. (14)
Goblin. (15)
Gnoll. (16)
Combine Tongue. (17)
Elder Teir'Dal. (18)
Lizardman. (19)
Orcish. (20)
Faerie. (21)
Dragon. (22)
Elder Dragon. (23)
Dark Speech. (24)
Vah Shir. (25)

and i am level 66

Now one of three things needs to be confirmed!
1. Language is Kobold
2. Language is Akheva
3. Language is yet unannounced, but SOMEONE supplied the info for this original post! Anyone know how to find out THAT info? We can just ask them how they got the the +10 stats.

BTW my 22 Necro has one on and it's 9/72/11 as does my Enchanter 10 so the level restriction has no sway.

Someone posted "the 26 language is Akheva"

So, does anyone know where that languages comes from or where one can learn it?

Tonight i put my adventurers stone in it and saw the stats go up to +10 ac, +10 to cha wis int and agi, and 84 to hp mana and end, what surprised me is i also had +1 for str, dex and sta, it also has +12 to all saves except poison. Of course i dont have my adventurers stone maxed out with enough adventures in all the ldon zones to max it however i am thinking that the stats here are not correct completely because as you do more ldons in other zones i think they will go up a bit higher just a guess but i did see a big change when i put my adventurers stone in so no there is not a 26th language just put your adventurers stone in and if you have done enough ldons you will reap those rewards on this. Not worth the effort to learn the languages i say NOT this has better stats than the intricate wooden figureine. I dont know which are the uncommon languages so i just learned them all didnt take long at all.

I also just get the 9/11/72 on both my 43 shaman and 37 chanter, but that's ok, it's still very nice for a 500pp purchase. Just overheard some people in PoK saying it was the booby prize of WoS. I asked one if he had one and had mastered the languages (he was a lvl 8 BST). He replied "Heck no, not gonna waste my time. I don't do the language thing". Obviously, I had no more to say to the fool. Let them keep the price low, lol.