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MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE PLACEABLE
Slot: HANDS
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 15
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +20 DEX: +10 STA: +10 AGI: +10 HP: +100
SV FIRE: +10 SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV MAGIC: +10 SV POISON: +10
Effect: Celestial Tranquility (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 50
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: MNK
Race: HUM IKS FRG DRK
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Cloth
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Color (RGB):0, 0, 0
Light:Stein of Tears
Stackable:No
Submitted By:Wakefield Kiyugami
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Updated By:RondorNorador
Source:Live
Updated:Sun Mar 17th, 2013
Ruins of Kunark Required: Yes


Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 50

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epic 1.0 new year post!
# Jan 22 2014 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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just finished my monks 1.0 on Povar server first off let me say took me 2 days to do wasn't bad I got lucky on some drops


first skip the boring part camp brother Z in rathe (he still drops robe droped one on 4th kill)

second chardok is still a pain got the pipe on 10th respawn

got lucky on kc pipe pawduster was up

other then that its a pretty easy run just skip the robe of the lost quest just camp brother Z he drops it still other then that good hunting fellow monks

post by Yiniadn (100 mage) buffinyaa (100 shaman) landing (53 monk povar)
epic 1.0 new year post!
# Jan 22 2014 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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just finished my monks 1.0 on Povar server first off let me say took me 2 days to do wasn't bad I got lucky on some drops


first skip the boring part camp brother Z in rathe (he still drops robe droped one on 4th kill)

second chardok is still a pain got the pipe on 10th respawn

got lucky on kc pipe pawduster was up

other then that its a pretty easy run just skip the robe of the lost quest just camp brother Z he drops it still other then that good hunting fellow monks

post by Yiniadn (100 mage) buffinyaa (100 shaman) landing (53 monk povar)
Supposed 9/16 ratio
# Jan 08 2014 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I have just obtained the fists on a level 59 Monk. At level 59 with maxed H2H skill, a Monk's fists are 22/24.

All old info about the Celestial Fists say that it turns the Monk's fists into 9/16, and I just want to point out that this is definitely no longer true. I haven't tested it thoroughly, but from a little fighting I can clearly see that a) my fists hit for the same maximum damage, and b) I hit much faster. I therefore speculate that wearing the CF simply lowers your fist delay to 16, making a level 59 Monk's fists a monstrous 22/16.
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Nice
# Apr 20 2012 at 12:11 AM Rating: Default
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Zliz wrote:
Now inventory clickable! Stacks with shaman buffs and the Might of Stone line for example.

To use it easily all the time, hotkey it, and bind the key with the same button you use for Flying Kick. That way, you'll use the fists every time you FK.


Nice to know that work :D
Nice
# Aug 30 2012 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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This will cut down on the need to carry all those haste potions.

Maybe it's not as high as the potions get, but for my 65 monk, who just got his fists two days ago, it's only a difference of 10% over the type X alacrity potion.

I finished the quest because I wanted it for the accomplishment. To find out there is an actual in game value to having it is a huge bonus.
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Now inventory clickable
# Apr 13 2012 at 2:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Now inventory clickable! Stacks with shaman buffs and the Might of Stone line for example.

To use it easily all the time, hotkey it, and bind the key with the same button you use for Flying Kick. That way, you'll use the fists every time you FK.
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Vicious haste
# Apr 25 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
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The clickie haste is pretty vicious, seems like it nearly doubles my attack speed. But be warned: the clickie is a bard song, and as such it only lasts 18 seconds, so to use it, you must keep it equipped at all times. VERY annoying, since the stats on it don't even make it to par with elab defiant (or intricate for that matter)
DPS formula ???
# Feb 16 2009 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone know the formula for DPS (damage per second)??? if so thanxs millions for your help.
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DPS formula ???
# Jun 05 2009 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
Kidding right?

DPS is Damage Per Second. That means add up all damage for a fight then divide it by time taken to kill in seconds.

DMG / TIME (Sec) = DPS
Grind it out
# Feb 16 2009 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Simply just grind it out bro lmao.
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Iksar Monk
# Mar 02 2008 at 5:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Can anyone give me a way to do this as an Iksar? w/o having to do tons of faction
Iksar Monk
# May 24 2008 at 1:25 PM Rating: Default
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Its easy, I don't even want to say this really since you should be required to find shortcuts on your own. Kill either of the 2 low level monks outside the guild by GM in Freeport they will drop the Red Sash of Order. And for the Headbands, get all the items and transfer them to a level 1 agnostic monk and do all turn in starting with white to purple.
Quick epic 1.0
# Oct 08 2007 at 5:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I finished the monk epic in 2 days, kunark pipe consuming the most amount of time. I used my main to do all the fight, only make sure your monk loots the items for the robe of the whistling fist resulting in the book of the celestial fist ( needed for the final turn). I tried to MQ this for my level 14 monk..lol. It didnt work. My demon fang got turned in but the npc will not accept the book. So I have to do all the fights over again. Oh well. My main is a lvl 75 war with 17k/3200ac unbuffed. Soloed all the fights. Good luck. Thanks Aegishopi for the run down.

Edited, Oct 8th 2007 9:19am by thourne
Epic completed at lv40
# Jan 02 2007 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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Just finished MNK 1.0 for lv 40 drakkin monk :)

Easy strat for MQ success:

1. Main Toon- Turn in Immortals book to Tomekeeper Danl in Erudin library. He returns Danl's Reference to you.
2. Main Toon- Turn in Danl's Reference to Lheao in Timorous Deep.
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3. Monk- Turn in Robe of he Whistling Fists to Lheao- gives monk the "Celestial Fists" book.
4. Monk- Turn in "Celestial Fists" book to crazy Kaiaren + FD.
5. Monk- Turn in "Celestial Fists" to real Kaiaren (near lake) to obtain Book of Celestial Fists.
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6. Main toon- Do the Lavastorm-PoSky-Nurga-LoIo fights on Main toon (turn-ins + fights only, no need to cycle items thru NPCs).
7. Main toon- Turn in Demon fang to either Kaiaren.
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8. Monk- Turn in Book of Celestial Fists. - Finito! Your monk receives epic 1.0!

Not sure why this is listed as lvl-capped, long as someone goes to PoSky at 46+ and can handle the kills, this is prolly MQ-able to a lv 1. Still cant use the clicky till lv 50 though, unfortunately. Nice twink item for hands slot, plus neat title and particle effect :)

*edit- Must have acquired Robe of Whistling Fists + book "Immortals" to use this method. Also noted- no "cycling" of turn in items needed. Whole thing completed in ~5 days (on/off playtime :P)

Edited, Jan 3rd 2007 1:24am by Aegishopi
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Epic completed at lv40
# Apr 15 2011 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
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tried this at level 1 several ways. first i had fang and book BOTH.. and tried handing in items both at same time.. individually and Kaiaren says "i have no need for this Nomnom, you can have it back."

and also tried chaining the fang, and monk turning in the book AFTER main hands in the fang, and vise versa. (had luck on Qwinn spawns).

either way. NOPE 8( altho it is 2011 now..a lot has changed.
Epic completed at lv40
# Sep 11 2007 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Just tried this for a lvl 40 monk, does not work, still had to cycle pieces and the guy in TD will not accept the quest items. Hitting AC today will try again in a few lvls.
Got Epic
# Nov 08 2006 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Hello all got my epic last night. Would like to share several observations.

PLANE OF SKY
In the Plane of Sky, the Gwan fight takes place after you give the scale to "A Presence". While on The Noble Dojorn's Island (1.5) I noticed that the noble himself was aggroing if we stood in certain locations on the island. I had read many times that the island was safe and all creatures were non-Agro, for the most part they were. But the Noble kept going from indifferent one second, to Kos the next, Back to Indifferent. Perhaps this was a bug I do not know.

Amway’s right when you get teleported onto the Noble Island there is a blue mark on the windmill directly behind you. This spot is safe to have you back completely against without getting agro. I found that where "A Presence" is located, have your back to the windmill at this spot and the Noble would agro.

KAIAREN (Trakanons Teeth)
I had a **** of a fun time finding the mad version of Kaiaren near the entrance to old sebilies. They may have moved him back a little then some of the other locs posted. I found him at...
(-1533 , -3431)

The True Version of Kaiaren who spawns after the book is cycled threw the mad, was near the lake in middle of zone in a building at loc.
(300 , 2400)



Just my 2 copper. Good Hunting
Finished last night
# Aug 03 2006 at 1:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Got my epic last night, camping times were as such

pawduster = around 8 hrs
iksar betrayer = 2 hours
killed brother z for robe so
brother z/q = 13 hours
everything else 2 hours

total = around 25 hours total camp time

Final fight was done with a 62 cleric 66 druid 65 monk and me 61 monk no prob.

now for the 1.5

Just wanted to say thanks to guild <Illuminata> for all the help with this! thanks guys!


Cshaik Yourbooty of Erollisi Marr <Absolute Carnage> 61 Monk



Edited, Aug 3rd 2006 at 2:03pm EDT by wannabmonk
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WOOT! Just Got Epic
# Apr 04 2006 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Just got epic 5min ago took about 1 month

Good luck Everone on this quest
Done @ level 46
# Sep 26 2005 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I completed my epic 1.0 last night on my alt monk. Targin & Raster were pains as usual.
The picture needs to be updated. Epic clicky effect has a required level of 50! I shoulda kept the robe awhile longer.

Raster I spent another 100 hours or so for about 6 hours a night on weekday and about 14 hours a day on Sat / Sun. Interestingly enough it never spawned when I had my already Epic'd 67 Monk waiting on him. about 6 spawns after I brought my then 44 monk down there, it spawned (and i got a bag of sewn evil eye from the giant eyeball not far away.) Perhaps raster pops quicker if you're a lower level and dont appear to be farming, or maybe it just happened that way.. heh (Spawn 4AM, despawn 7AM, Spawn 8AM*Kill*, spawn 7PM*kill : Eq Day = 72 minutes, 3 minutes per EQ hour...you can do the math and figure out to the minute when raster/Ph'r will spawn, typically 30 minutes between spawns so go do something else and come when the timer dings!)

Targin wasn't too bad, about 12 hours total. Basically left the beastlord sitting at the king camp and watched a couple movies everything attacks him and pet kills - looked over and a humanoid corpse was laying there - looted the book and took off. (This didn't work in Guk because i'm not KoS, and wouldn't want to kill the 4AM Ph'r anyhow)

It took awhile for Brother Qwuinn and Brother Zephyl to spawn - Qwuinn was in southern part of the zone, below Splitpaw, when I did Lambi's he was as far north as you can go. Bring a tracker!

I did my fights before turning in the robe to Kairain so I could keep the clicky robe as long as possible. Then went and did all 3 Kairain parts at once to get epic.

Lheao Basically told me to go away and kill tadpolls, didn't do the speech however he took the robe and the page and gave me what I came for.

Eejag, Gwan, & Trunt were solo'd with 70 BST. Final fights in LOIO were done with BST, My monk needing epic and a 66 necro who asked to help when I asked for DMF to spawn the event. Couldn't slow any of the 3, Pet easily offtanked. Final mob has a 10 second stun which could be bad if you have low HP and runs at 20%.

FYI: At level 46 you can get Experience grouped with a level 70. I almost got a whole level fighting to the sleeping ogre.
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whew
# May 21 2005 at 11:01 AM Rating: Default
i can't believe that i am finally done. i did the rogue epic before i got bored with backstabs. that epic was a piece of cake. this thing sucked while doing it, but i actually jumped up and down the day i got pawbuster to pop and at 3am i woke my wife up when i screamed YES because the betrayer popped. this was truly a test of patience and determination and i congratulate and respect ANY who have completed this epic quest. it also nice to see that even this long after this reward was created, it is still a desirable piece. unlike the sk, pally, and beastlord rewards which are outdated and insignifigant already. all hail Huchee the tranquil dragon of freeport and newest celestial fist.
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RE: whew
# Aug 03 2005 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
not just the pally sk and beast are out dated have you seen the warrior 1.0? way out dated but everyone does it becuase whats better then a pair of light sabors
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Epic 1.0
# May 17 2005 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Love this effect on my lvl 51 Monk. Got mine in one day.
sorry
# Jan 27 2005 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Well I figured it out you cant have any hp buffs nor haste buffs from a BST on while trying to use the fists. Once I took these off i wa hitting like a mad man on speed. I hope my stupidty helps someone in the future.

Mikewyo
???
# Jan 26 2005 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I finished this tonight .... but i am not able to click on it and have it proc .... tells me your spell did not take hold....

Can anyone help shead some light on this for me ??


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RE: ???
# Sep 26 2005 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Epic Clicky doesn't stack with:

Spiritual Vigor (BST attack buff)
One of the ranger buffs (tunare?)
CHanter haste (Vallons) it does stack with chanter clicky and VoG.
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RE: ???
# Aug 29 2005 at 7:27 PM Rating: Default
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that means u already have something that will not stack with that buff- ie chanter hastes in the augumentation line.
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RE: ???
# May 20 2005 at 9:15 PM Rating: Default
just got mine today and i got same message. then i clicked off speed of vallon (chanter buff) and i got it.
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Thanks
# Jan 11 2005 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
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As an unguilded 65 MNK i just wanted to state my thanks to those that helped me finish the Epic a couple of days ago & my gratitude to those that helped along my Epic's journey. Sorry if i miss you in my thanks, it's not an intentional oversight, but for the last couple of fights i was aided by a small group: Followers of Nobility, they were very swift & efficient & have my gratitude. my thanks to Leithea the great Vah Shir Shaman of Dark Harvesters for the help in duoing Eejag. & for unprecedented patience & kindness in helping this ignorant Monk too many times upon Epic & such, Iridis of the grand guild Night Eternal which seems mostly benevolent as well. i might be broke again, but i achieved Epic, small accomplishment by today's EQ standards, but still felt good. EQ might be in it's twilight, but it's players like these that make it still fun to play despite Sony's best attempts, LOL. Anyways, from the free download to now Epic, thanks to all that have helped my wee Monk upon Epic & all else! Never give up on dreams, because now i too can solo a Snow Bunny :-)
duh
# Nov 18 2004 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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The slot is missing from the picture =)
no damge
# Jul 08 2004 at 6:44 PM Rating: Default
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so this item dose no damge or what
RE: no damge
# Aug 28 2004 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah it's hand armor not a weapon, Back when they made the monk epic quest there where no hand to hand weapons, so instead of giving us a blunt weapon (monks blunt skill caps higher then hand to hand anyway at lower levels) they gave us the only non weapon epic weapon.
RE: no damge
# Jul 10 2004 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
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this is a hands item, not primary or secondary weapon item.
RE: no damge
# Oct 20 2004 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
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In a way it does do its own damage, it makes the ratio of your hands much better. Something like 9/16 i believe. Which isnt bad for not counting any haste, and is weaponless =)
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haste?
# Jun 23 2004 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
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What kind of haste is the monk epic considered to be? Is it equivalent to spell haste ?(thus the haste component of the monk epic buff would not stack with an enchanter haste spell) Or is it considered an item hsate? (thus monks wouldnt need a haste item such as cof since cof and epic haste wouldnt stack)
RE: haste?
# Jul 07 2004 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
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celestial tranquility counts as a song, so it does stack with item haste but not with spell haste
RE: haste?
# Oct 22 2004 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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This does stack with spell's just not bard haste songs.
Ornate or Epic? hhmmm
# Apr 11 2004 at 9:03 AM Rating: Decent
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uumm hey guys, has anyone noticed the monk ornate gauntlets has the same exact effect and comparable stats? I think im going to quit my epic and let someone else have the targin and raster MQs, you need them and your on tholuxe send a tell to Neostas or Rilion. And YES owning this and clicking the song will add dmg, if you take a look at the effect it raises AC, ATK, AND gives you the 41% haste
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RE: Ornate or Epic? hhmmm
# Apr 16 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Default
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Comparable stats?? What are you smoking buddy?? Where I come from a difference of 12 strength, 3 dex, 5 atamina, 10 agility, 7 vs magic, 10 vs fire, 4 vs cold, 10 vs disease, 4 vs poison, and 50 hit points is no where near comparable.
doesnt proc at 47
# Mar 26 2004 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Just got epic about 15 minutes ago for my lvl 47 monk, i can confirm the effect does not proc at 47. Im guessing im going to have to wait till lvl 50 or so
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RE: doesnt proc at 47
# May 02 2004 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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This is not a proc... it is right click effect

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RE: doesnt proc at 47
# Mar 29 2004 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Most people I know haven't even been able to START their epics until 50 (npc's tell them they aren't ready or won't talk to them at all)...is the Monk epic different than others or did they limit the starting level on epics at some point and you started yours before then?

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RE: doesnt proc at 47
# May 25 2004 at 6:41 PM Rating: Default
i actually STARTED my monks at lvl 31, i got the book from SF and turned it in, also i have my pattern and needle
RE: doesnt proc at 47
# Jun 17 2004 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
I started my monk epic as soon as I was strong enough to fight the early mobs to get the headband and sash, probably around level 10 or so. I'm at 48 now and just got Raster and turned that stuff in to Brother Zephyl in Rathe Mountains. I think the only limit set is whether you can handle it alone or not. I've done all mine solo so far. Probably won't last too long though. The Targin camp will be very hard to solo I think.
Damage Delay
# Jan 29 2004 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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So do the fists still lower your dam/delay to 9/16 or was that nerfed out?
RE: Damage Delay
# Mar 23 2004 at 10:14 AM Rating: Decent
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If you are using your fists by the time you get this, man go on a raid and get yourself some gear. I use knotted knuckles in my secondary, very easy to get, find a few people willing to lend a hand, go to Umbral Plains and kill the Spirit. They common drop.
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Hotbutton :/
# Jan 20 2004 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I spent about 3 hours camping Pawbuster and 1 hour on a raid in Chardok.
got the RotLC chained, and i have not yet got epic but am very close :)

Would like to know how to put the epic and Flying kick into one hotbutton i dont really get the ones that have been posted so i kinda need a simple one that is easy for ANYONE to understand if anyone could do it example: doability(sp?)1 with pause etc.
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RE: Hotbutton :/
# Feb 26 2004 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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You can't use a command to trigger a clicky item, unfortunately.

The way to link the two is to set up each as its own hotkey - kick for one, the robe (or epic) on another. Once they are both set up, enter your keyboard layout under the option bar and set up the same alternate key (I use tilde (~) since I prefer F8 for targetting) for both hotkeys. When you hit that alternate key, both hotkeys should be activated. The biggest problem with this is if you change hotkey banks, hitting that alternate key will activate the two hotkey positions you have it assigned to in the other bank as well. You can set up your robe/kick in all of your banks in the same slots to avoid the problem, or be sure to be in your combat hotkey bank when you hit the alternate key. If you reassign primary keys (you could activate two keys by assigning them both to the number 2, for example), you can't individually trigger either without using the mouse. I left default alone, and changed the alternate instead (adding a new key instead of changing an old one).

I've had issues setting it up as hotkey 1 and hotkey 2, but any other combination seems to work fine. I have FD on hotkey 1, kick on 2, and the robe on 3. Tilde is an alternate key for 2 and 3, and triggers both when pressed.

Your hotkeys are numbered under the default UI, in case you need to know the specific numbers.

I hope this helps.
RE: Hotbutton :/
# Apr 08 2004 at 9:54 AM Rating: Default
You should also beware that this will affect other characters as well. Mapping your keyboard is a universal change, so if you have your tilde(or whatever) key set to activate your first and second hotkeys for instance, make sure you don't hit it on accident while playing your Shadowknight and accidentally Harm Touch your guildmaster.

Back when I was a newb, someone told me about the easy way to raise your Sense Heading skill (yes, back when you actually had to work on it) by setting one of your motion keys to trigger the first hotkey, where your Sense Heading was. Well, after playing that character for a bit, I switched over to my SK, and yes, you guessed it... stepped up to the banker I'd been camped near, and Harm Touched him. Needless to say, he didn't enjoy it that much, and I got to go for a nice jog in the cool morning breeze.
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you sure?
# Jan 20 2004 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default
you sure? though its a short duration buff, it doesnt go to the SD window (song) besides that it just may stack anyways....just how shaman's haste stacks with chanter haste.

so are you saying the eyepatch stacks with the epic? are you 100% sure? all i know is that i have eyepatch on my beastlord and it counts as shammy type haste, so it still stacks with enchanter haste.

i'm not too sure on all of this, but if it does stack with eyepatch, time to camp stormfeather :P
RE: you sure?
# Feb 14 2004 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Selo`s doesn't go in the song buff window either. It goes in the spell effect window, but i am fairly certain that Selo`s is a song.
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RE: you sure?
# Feb 23 2004 at 5:53 PM Rating: Default
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There are multiple versions of Selo's. Most are short duration (3 ticks) and go in the song window. Selo's Accelerating Chorus has a 2.5 minute duration, and, as such, goes in the regular buff window instead of the song window.
RE: you sure?
# Mar 27 2004 at 12:04 AM Rating: Default
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Actually all selo's speed line songs go in the regular buff window regardless of duration. Stop posting crap on the boards you don't know.
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New Epic Monk
# Jan 04 2004 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Newest EPIC monk on Tarew Marr, Cathan Kazimyre.
Got epic at around 7:30 PM EST January 3, 2004.
Thanks to all my buds in CoR for helping me out.

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stacking haste
# Dec 01 2003 at 5:35 PM Rating: Default
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monk epic counts as song haste so both item haste and spell haste will stack with it. Monks can be self hasted 100%. Just get epic and eyepatch of plunder and get a 40% haste item lots of nodrop ones to be gotten.
RE: stacking haste
# Feb 06 2004 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Not all songs with a haste component stack their hastes. There are only a few songs that specifically provide "over haste". The effect on this epic will not stack it's haste component with any spell or song except the Ervaj songs, Call of the Muse, Rizlona's and the Vah Shir songs.

Haste on Eyepatch will not stack it's haste with this item. Best self hast a monk can have (non disc) is 41% from item and 40% from this effect = 81%.
RE: stacking haste
# Feb 08 2004 at 11:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually the max ive seen is 86% w/ Shroud of Survival and epic
RE: stacking haste
# Nov 12 2004 at 3:28 PM Rating: Default
Well now, this may not be correct, so somebody either back me up on this or shoot me down, but I believe there's a haste cap of 75% unless you have certain bard songs on you which increase that cap up to 100%. Not sure about this however.
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# Nov 08 2003 at 3:47 PM Rating: Excellent
Haste stacking works like this: you get ONE item haste, whether it be a FBSS, SCHW, Clawed Coat of Tyro, or whatever. If you have more than one haste item, you get the better of the two. If it says "worn" next to the Haste effect, it's item haste. Then you get ONE spell haste, be it a triggered effect (like the monk epic), or VoG, SLtW, some bard songs. If it has a buff icon, it's considered spell haste, and, again, if you have more than one (like Dance of the Blade and VoG), you get the better of the two. Beyond this, bards are the ONLY class that can increase your haste. Some of the bard haste songs not only stack with what's listed above, but actually allow you to go over the normal haste cap. Warsong of the Vah Shir, Battlecry, Rizlona's Call of Flame and Call of the Muse are all over-the-cap haste songs. The haste from other bard songs does not stack with shaman/enchanter haste (since it counts as spell haste).
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STack
# Nov 02 2003 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Will this stack with Eyepatch of Plunder haste?

RE: STack
# Nov 03 2003 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Im not 100% sure about it but i think it does not stack with the eyepatch. It stacks with shaman buff swift of the wind. It does not stack with chanter's haste Vallon's.
how to hotkey?
# Oct 31 2003 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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The advice given above is to hot key the right click effect with the kick. I know how to invoke skills in a hotkey, as in

/pause 3,/doability 7 (flying kick)
/doabiltiy 5 (disarm)

and so on ... what would be the command in a hotkey for invoking a right-click on an item like the epic gloves?
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RE: how to hotkey?
# Dec 28 2003 at 12:53 PM Rating: Default
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To make a hotkey for your Monk epic (or any clicky) Open your inventory, find your clicky item, left click and hold the mouse button until the item (and it's slot) appear on your curser. Then just drop it into an open Hot Button slot and you can program it for a Hotkey just like you can any other Hot Button (using Doability and the slot number the item is in)....
RE: how to hotkey?
# Jun 09 2005 at 9:43 AM Rating: Default
It's not quite that easy. /doab is for the ability window that gets brought up with ctrl+s I believe, the 6 slots you can set your skills into and then hotkey into your macro window. You usually have to macro the ability into the hotkey window and then set an alternate key for that hotkey number. Another explanation is above this but to reiterate you set ability X to # (whatever hotkey number) and then set macro the item into another hotkey slot on the same macro page. Once that's done you go into the options menu and remap the number for the clicky item so it has an alternate key of # (the hotkey number you have for your ability.) It will show up red before you already have it used for another key but once you press the number it should activate both.

Ex. Flying kick is set to 4, you put Celestial Fists in 3. Set the button that you press to activate hotkey three to have an alternate button of 4. Now when you press 4 it will activate flying kick and activate the Celestial Fists. It's good to set it to flying kick because then you won't be spamming your spell window.

Good luck.
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My epic
# Oct 20 2003 at 11:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Finally just got my this past sunday morning at approximately 3:30ish am =). Last piece was Chardok for less than 4 hours. Raster took me 4.5 hours, and Pawduster about 10. Forget however how long Targin took. All in all I was pretty lucky on the times for spawns =D. Aily Sleipnir.. one of newest epic monks of Tarrew Marr.
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RE: My epic
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HAHA i know you ... your 65 now =P




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# Sep 21 2003 at 2:50 AM Rating: Default
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So, someone explain just how this epic works. i see that is haste, but is it clicked or is it worn? Also, is this a haste that stacks with other item haste such as a CoF, with chanter haste, and with the lvl51+ bard stackable haste songs?
RE: so....
# Oct 05 2003 at 5:29 PM Rating: Default
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This is a click haste, lasts 9 secs, hot key it in with flying kick. Will stack with worn haste, spell haste, and the Vah Shir bard haste songs: Battlecry of the Vah Shir and Warsong of the Vah Shir.

Edited, Sun Oct 5 18:20:41 2003
#nukes, Posted: Sep 14 2003 at 12:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is the best wareeor weapon in the game. NO haste does NOT make u hit faster it makes u RUN faster HELLO read it says 40% faster. like sow... for all u n00b's thats spirot of the walrus. i know this for a fact because when i was soloing at lvl 65 with my 610 aa points in the plane of fire i was running faster after the mobs when i feared them. also just to add i bought these for 5000pp in th batzar
stacks
# Sep 04 2003 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
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will stack with visions of grandure FYI
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# Aug 08 2003 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok im a 58 monk on Ayonae Ro i here so much about hastes and blah blah blah that im confused is Celestial Tranquility a Bard song or no plz fill me in
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Its considered a song haste.
#Fisticon, Posted: Jul 30 2003 at 12:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WOW...U guys are something...LOL
#eqjock, Posted: Jun 24 2003 at 10:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey im a 51 monk on brell serilis and wonderin if any guild that is able to help with things like epic would take me and i would join in plenty of help for others in guild
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Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to use
# Jun 17 2003 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
I understand that if a monk wearing the epic gloves weilds weapons in his primary and secnondary slots, he will get the damage/delay of the weapons he is holding and not the damage/delay of the epic gloves.

What I want to know is can he equip non-weapon items in his primary and secondary slots (i.e. hand held items, shields, etc.) and still use the epic gloves as hand to hand weapons?

If not, that kinda sucks. It means a monk is basically losing two inventory slots on his char if he uses these. So he loses the benefit of the stats he could get from items/weapons in his primary and secondary slots.
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# Jun 25 2003 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
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The epic isnt a weapon. It provides haste no matter what you are wielding. If you have no weapons in you are using your fists and you have the damage/delay of your fists whatever it is for your level and then the effect adds haste to that. So if you wield weapons you get the weapons and the epic adds haste to the delay of the weapons you are holding. So no it doesnt suck. . .
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Jun 25 2003 at 4:39 PM Rating: Default
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If you notice again its not a primay or secondary slot item - it's a HANDS slot item. like gloves.
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
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If you notice again its not a primay or secondary slot item - it's a HANDS slot item. like gloves.
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Jun 28 2003 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I think people should only answer if they know what they are talking about, thats not the case here. Celestial fists work this way:
If you put your fists in your hands slot then your hands will turn to 9/16 dmg/dly. So i think the question you should ask yourself is can you use your fists while wielding a non-damage weapon? Off course not. I agree it does suck to have to leave slots open for it to work, nowdays the 16/9 isn't that impressive though so just wield 2 weapons and enjoy the nice epic hand slot item.
Just a question, Housemusic why do you answer a post when you have no clue of what he is talking about?
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Jul 16 2003 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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This is not a weapon. Nobody was saying that you should only use your fists with the epic. That's not how it works. Read above. What HouseMusic was saying is that it doesn't affect your fists ratio EXCEPT by way of the haste portion of the effect, since these are gloves and not H2H weapons. If you have the Whistling Fists http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=10340, a H2H weapon, then you would more than likely go H2H with at least one fist. He knew what he was saying: The "gloves" do not require you to use your fists! Go ahead and wield two weapons if you like.

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RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Jul 26 2003 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
Nobody was saying that you should only use your fists with the epic. That's not how it works.

That's exactly how they work.
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What HouseMusic was saying is that it doesn't affect your fists ratio EXCEPT by way of the haste portion of the effect, since these are gloves and not H2H weapons.

That's exactly where HouseMusic is wrong.

Well since it's not clear enough here comes:
Celestial Fists alters your bare hand dmg/dly.
I might be wrong but your bare fists are 14/30 at level 53. If you put the celestial fists in your hand slot, your bare hand damage will not be 14/30 anymore. They will be 9/16. This is not due to any haste effect of any kind.
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Aug 21 2003 at 10:58 AM Rating: Default
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Well you are wrong, Grasseau. The Celestial Fists effect work on whatever form of attack you wish to use, be it H2H or weapons. It does nothing to the dmg rating of your fists. The haste effects the delay on H2H AND weapons. The effect is basically a buff.
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Aug 23 2003 at 6:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think you missunderstood, I haven't commented on the effect, I know the effect works on whatever weapon you wield. It's the item itself that alters the ratio on your bare hand fists.
Check this webpage, it's all there:
http://bodi.morgyn.org/monkepicquest.htm

Edited, Sat Aug 23 07:03:52 2003
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Aug 25 2003 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, you are correct on that, the epic does change the fist attack to 9/16. :)
RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Jul 11 2003 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for understanding my question Grasseau!

That stinks, but you make a good point, by the time I am high enough to get the epic, I'll probably have weapons with a better ratio.







RE: Do you need to keep primary and secondary slots empty to
# Nov 13 2003 at 2:22 AM Rating: Decent
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You may have better ratio weapons by that time but the effect of Celestial trainquility is great. 40% haste,40 attack, and 12 AC. put that on top of your "better weapons" and you got something good. Also the stats on the epic are great, not going to find a much better hand slot item for a monk.
#crackers, Posted: Jun 15 2003 at 9:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why would you use a Adamantite Club over bare (epiced) fists. I could see why you would use a tranquil staff (agro reasons) but the club just seems the reduce agro but lower damage output. Also who would pass up the ying yang symbols floating around your fists.
#fistofury, Posted: Jun 13 2003 at 9:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Fri Jun 13 22:19:16 2003
#fistofury, Posted: Jun 13 2003 at 9:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey how do you post things like your magelo profile thanks for any information
#fistofury, Posted: Jun 13 2003 at 10:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hehe sorry for the double post i also ound out how to link stuff also and how to [orange] change [red] the [green] colors [purple] of [teal] your [gold] text
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# May 26 2003 at 1:30 AM Rating: Decent
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after camp mobs, for so many hours, i got my epic done!!!
And here we go, get the headband, and sash, was easy, so easy, i sold my purple headband 2 times for 5k, each time(i love money), camp targin, was not hard iden, raster, lol, 36 hours, no sleep, i get him, and then...i sold idol, for 24k, to a desesperate monk, so, what i did, i shout at pok, i was ready to pay 8k, to a group, to help me kill brother quinn, and, ban, loot at the first kill; pipes, was bad, too, karnor's was hours, to make pawbuster pop, chardok, lol, i try 2 times, no one like to go there, so i pay 5 k, for chardok pipe, the rest was so easy...all kill's only took me a full group, sure, the last one i have a warrior65, and a necro 65, druid 60, so, i was cool, hehe...
Dont blame me for sell, and buy so many times, i did, wherever it take to do my epic, i am a monk 54, first character, so i think i didnt do too bad...i had a good help from people,that i never saw before, thanks god...lol.Good luck to all!
RE: peguei
# Aug 28 2003 at 1:39 PM Rating: Default
Your knowledge of the english language amazes me.
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# Oct 12 2003 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe he was so happy he got drunk, then posted?
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RE: peguei
# Jan 08 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
Not everyone who plays EQ is from English speaking countries. Can you come even close to speaking that well in another language?... I can't...my hats off to all those who do.
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Haste explained
# May 06 2003 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
"Haste Explained - By Xaas Swifttail

For those unfamiliar, something that has a "Haste" effect is something that makes you faster, something that gives you a greater speed in one way or another. As far as EverQuest goes, Haste more accurately effects how fast you attack. The speed in which you attack is represented by your weapons "Delay" attribute (Del). Delay is measured in tenths of seconds. For instance, a weapon with a Delay of 20 would attack every two seconds. Likewise, a weapon with a Delay of 44 would attack every 4.4 seconds. Going by that system is not 100% accurate because there are many decimal values that are not taken into consideration (ie a Delay of 44 might actually be 44.013). Excluding these decimal values alters your results slightly, but usually only by a maximum of one or two tenths. It is a good system to use, but like I said, not 100% accurate.


A common misconception is that a Haste effect directly alters the Delay of your weapons, when in fact it doesn't. Haste is measured in Damage Increase, NOT Delay Decrease. An item or spell that adds a 40% Haste effect does NOT lower your weapons Delay by 40%, but rather increases the amount of Damage you do by 40% over a period of time. Another point of notice is that Item Haste and Spell Haste combine. For instance if you had a Spell cast on you that adds 20% Haste and an Item equipped that adds 17% Haste your total Haste would be 37%. This does not work in all cases because many Items and Spells have rescritctions where they will not stack with eachother.


Although Haste deals with Damage Increase and not Delay Decrease, you CAN calculate what your weapon Delay would be during the time period you are Hastened. In determining your weapon Delay with a given Haste percentage there are three steps. To illustrate these steps we will pretend that you are using a Fighting Baton (8 Dmg/20 Delay) with a Flowing Black Silk Sash equipped (21% Haste). The first step is to add 100 to the Haste percentage. In this case the result would be 121 (100 + 21 = 121). The second step is to divide that number (121) into 100. The result would be roughly .83 (100 / 121 = .83). The third and final step is to multiply the previous results (.83) by your weapon Delay (20). The result is 16.5 (20 * .83 = 16.5). We have now determined that a Fighting Batons 8/20 with 21% Haste become 8/17 (16.5) during the period of time that you are Hastened.


Here are a few examples of this method of determining haste effects.


[Delay 30 with 40% Haste]
Step One - Add 100 to the Haste Percentage.

100 + 40 = 140

Step Two - Divide the previous result (140) into 100.

100 / 140 = .71

Step Three - Multiply the previous result (.71) by the weapon Delay.

71 * 30 = 21.3

Finished - A Delay of 30 with a 40% Haste becomes a Delay of 21.3.


[Delay 15 with 85% Haste]
Step One - Add 100 to the Haste Percentage.

100 + 85 = 185

Step Two - Divide the previous result (185) into 100.

100 / 185 = .54
.54 * 15 = 8.1

Finished - A Delay of 15 with an 85% Haste becomes a Delay of 8.1.


[Delay 44 with 20% Haste]
Step One - Add 100 to the Haste Percentage.

100 + 20 = 120

Step Two - Divide the previous result (120) into 100.

100 / 120 = .83

Step Three - Multiply the previous result (.83) by the weapon Delay.

.83 * 44 = 36.5

Finished - A Delay of 44 with a 20% Haste becomes a Delay of 36.5.


As you can see, determining the effects of Haste on your weapons Delay using this method is really quite simple. Below are a few important things to bare in mind when considering Haste and Delay.


[Important Facts]
- Delay is measured in tenths of seconds.
- Item Haste and Spell Haste combine (generally).
- Haste is measured in Damage Increase, not Delay Decrease.
- The formula for determining Delay with Haste is: Delay * (100 / (100 + Haste%))


I hope this has been helpful and informative. For comments, questions and/or suggestions, please contact the author, Xaaz Swiftail, at prymus@blazenet.net" as per www.monkly-business.com.
RE: Haste explained
# Mar 28 2004 at 10:12 PM Rating: Default
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man wtf are you doin ... THIS ISNT MATH CLASS!!!
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RE: Haste explained
# May 12 2003 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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It doesn't make you do more damage.

41% haste makes you swing 41% more in any given time period. So yes, you do more damage, but it doesn't add damage. Just makes you swing more often.

And haste does lower your delay, though not by 41%, but rather 41/141. Meaning your delay is reduced by ~29.08 percent. (Same as saying 100/141 = .71... .71 * delay = new delay)

Not flaming or arguing, just a case of some semantics.

Edit: One other cause for haste calculation errors is the cap on minimum delay. I believe no weapon can reach lower than 12 delay due to haste, etc. Not 100% sure if that's the right number, and yes there was a 10 delay weapon dropped for a brief period, though I think it was removed from game. So usually having a 14-16 delay weapon and being hasted out the wazoo won't make a huge difference to your delay.

Edited, Mon May 12 16:52:38 2003
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RE: Haste explained
# Jul 31 2003 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually Monk fists can go below the 12 delay. Only 'weapon' in the game that can drop below that in the game.
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RE: Haste explained
# May 08 2003 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Tip from the math nerd. You can also trim a step by treating the percentage as a decimal and adding 1 instead of 100. It will save the whole dividing into 100 step:

21% = .21
add one (stick a one in front) = 1.21
20/1.21 = 16.5

30/1.4 = 21.4

etc.

Also makes it easier to plug into a calculator. Enter the delay, hit divided by, enter one, then the decimal, then the haste %. Then hit equals.
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RE: Haste explained
# Jun 28 2003 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah thats a lot easier, what it means in practice with 40% haste is you hit 1.4 times more during the same amount of time, this means, if haste is 40%:
x= new dly
1.4*dam/dly=1*dam/x
1.4/dly=1/x
x=dly/1.4
so new dly = dly/((100+haste)/100)
This is the same as the above post just mathematicly correct. The dam isnt the dmg it says on the weapon its the actual damage you do.

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