ok first off...chances of a none twinked war who has 2 lvl 70 alts and who hasnt cheated by buying plat...will prolly never have the boc b4 he is up a few more lvls..second at 50 the only way u are getting to plains to get weaps better are to get flagged...and to get the bloodfrenzy in ssra that will take some time aswell...so what the war epics arnt that great..but get a good haste and u will be running about 14 20...maybe a lil slower not sure...the procs arnt great eather...but the 100dd along with the hate a faster weap thats got another proc u will be all set...in my opinion...but w/e who cares WHO els get friken LIGHT SABERS how sweet is that

Kinda sad that we are faced with practically insurmountable obstacles and end up with such a weak weapon. People who think of wars as meat shields need to think again! Some of the most effective tanks hit hard and fast and keep aggro too! As a Mellee I like to be figured into the dps ratios, thanks! I weild the Fabled Executioner's Axe right now until i can obtain something better. Hitting for over 500 at level 60 and holding aggro is hard to argue with dont ya think?

Edited, Sat Nov 27 16:05:06 2004

How often do these weapons proc.
Lookin for someone with a high (270+) dex to estimate how often they proc.

its sad... instead of seeing usefull information about things I REALLY need to know about I hear children arguing about useless crap like what the stats are and shat they do... I dont give a good damn about weather it procs a damn debuff or not. I will find out for myself when I get the epic. So please STOP filling these forums with your useless info to contradict someone else about what they think or know... Take it to tells or make your own damn thread... call it "Lets get some tampons..."

i think that epic weapons should be the BEST weapon in the game for your class/race cuz it's an EPIC weapon it should be great u know? but i mean just look at the weapon "edge of eternity" if your flagged for plane of time and in a guild good enough to raid it then u could loot a better weapon than epic.... i just think that's stupid

The proc ALSO debuffs the target when it lands...that is why you said you saw your Rage of Vallon spell has worn off...it lasts for about 3 minutes or so (havent timed).....the proc is 100 dd, increases hate by 500 (as previously stated), AND debuffs Ac, Strength, Agility, AND Attck if i remember correctly....I proc'ed it on a necro friend to test it out....I think the 2hander proc has a debuff as well, but havent tested to be sure....After having my epic for over a year i would say that proc for proc it generates more aggro than my BoC does (when its not resisted), simply because of all the different components in one litte proc...The effect is JUST short of a stun to having ALL of the factors in it that mobs hate...but however it is resisted about 30 percent of the time from most 60+ mobs(debuffing fire resist helps a TON)...It still makes a dam good offhander tho

65th Overlord of Prexus

Edited, Thu Sep 4 01:45:19 2003

just clearing something up. Above it says triggered...is this wrong? Isnt this a combat proc?!?! if it was triggered wouldnt u be able to chain nuke for 100, and u would never lose agro with that proc.

We did the queen with 11 people the other night. 4 clerics (2 of them epic'd), an SK, a rogue (epic), a shammy (epic), myself, pally, ranger, and a beastlord (epic).

pacified the whole way down and single pulled. rogue used SoS and pacified queens room and single pulled that.

having 4 clerics was awesome.

average level was 55

Ok.... first of all rage of zek and rage of vallon are procs.... rage of zek is a 175dd +600 hate.... rage of vallon is 100dd +500 hate -40 attack -35 ac.... both of the procs are fire based... please dont try to argue the procs... i think id know i have them... the blade of tactics is +40 dex +40 attack +11 ac.... and i hit for around 45-70 dmg with them 91 dmg being my highest hit with the 1hs... imo these blades are a very fine upgrade to most weapons unless your in a uber guild.... i used to wield cuved claws 11/18 +12 str +6 sta +20 hp/mana and a tae ew longsword 12/20 +3 str/int/wis +50 hp +7 sv poison/disease. good luck to all you warriors out there tryin to finish epic. no other weapons out there like them >8D Korgathe Finrotha ~ Quellious
lvl 58 epic warrior of cazic

Once again I will throw my 2cp in the ring. To say that the warrrior epic weapons suck is the talk of a fool. lvl to obtain this weapon is lvl 55 it is meant for that level. Think of your epic quest like going to school and once you get your epic that is like graduating colledge. Now you should be in the 58 to 60 range by this point it is time to move on get a job and start making the real pp. Now if you will notice most posters are under lvl 40 and I just bet have 8 under lvl 50 chars and always will. Your epic weapons are a status symbol not a end game. They say you took the time required to complete the epic quests and people will treat you diffrent so weild them with honor for we will know if your just another E-bay twink :)

Dathgunz 59 seasons Epic Warrior

Verant needs to drop the delay on this weapon down to 18 in my opinion .... while there would still be weapons out there that can compete with it that would make the warrior epic something that is actually usefull again ... i'm sure that back in the kunark days this was indeed a bad ass weapon i mean come on back in the day a 6/23 weapon was considered ok but even by the time velious came out that was considered vendor trash ... and 14/ 24 that dmg/ dly isn't much better than a centi longsword and those are pretty much total crap, although im not including the other stats there or the proc but all im trying to say is that the only thing that would really make this epic actually worth doin would be to drop the delay so that it could at least compare to other weapons out in todays EQ.

This is just to clarify some things on the warrior epic swords.

1st-The Blade of Strategy (the Red Blade) does not damage the wielder at all. It procs 100 DD to the target and lowers you on the mob's hate list by 500 points.

2-The lower you are on a mob's hate list, the more the mob hates you. Think of it like factions and faction hits. If you kill a Coldain Dwarf, your faction is lowered with Coldain. This means they hate you more.

3-Most warriors will bank their Blade of Tactics (blue blade) and replace it with a Primal or an Enraging Blow weapon. But they will keep their Blade of Strategy equiped almost all of the time, unless they are not MTing.

4-Yes...compared to Swiftwind and Earthcaller (the Ranger epics), the Warrior Epic swords rather suck. But they are excellent for holding aggro, especially if you are not in a guild which is ST/VT enabled. And warriors in general get screwed over with damage/delay ratios on weapons. But we get the highest damage bonus on 1hs weapons in game, so our damage is much higher than most people realize. We also crit more than any other class.

Anyhow...hope this cleared up some of the questions being floated here.

~Korbyn Battlecry,
Warlord of The Tribunal,
Harmony of Souls,
Prexus Server

Edited, Sun Nov 10 11:30:00 2002

Is this sword the red sword or the blue sword? I would really like to know.....








Maxiimus
Level 47 Warrior