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MAGIC ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: ARMS
AC: 13
DEX: +9 INT: +9
SV MAGIC: +7
WT: 4.9 Size: SMALL
Class: RNG
Race: HUM ELF HEF HFL DRK
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Plate
Tint:
 
Color (RGB):80, 115, 52
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Tamos
Updated By:Rangermadness
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008


Rarity: Ultra Rare
Level to Attain: 46

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We are so missunderstood!
# May 04 2005 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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God I love bieng a Ranger! LOL

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You people dont get it
# Feb 10 2004 at 7:27 AM Rating: Excellent
15 posts
Quote:
First Rangers need mana because they are casters.
A ranger who do not cast can't be a good ranger.
we are hybrids... It means we can't tank efficiently.

We need DEX, no comment here, it is obvious.
Magic Resist is VERY important above level 50.
Reach such level and you will see how it comes without Magic resist.

INT is also important. Learning a skill is based on the best value between WIS and DEX.
So... according to the gear you have you will maybe need INT also.

A very important thing for a Ranger : all you need is an appropriate equipment.
It is hard to understand but so true...

STR is NOT important.
At uber levels you'll need HP, Haste and STA !
for tradeskills you'll need DEX, WIS (or INT) and STR.

For Planes you'll need AGI, DEX and SvMagic.

To solo you'll need HP, STA, AC and AGI.
Ranger is the coolest class in EQ. But very hard to play and understand.
- We are not Druids (we don't ask for donation when sowing people)
- We are not warriors (AC and HP are too low)

We rangers need to enhance and improve a lot of things. HP STA Haste AGI DEX WIS and AC...
Doh, it is so annoying sometimes to change your gear but it is the only good way to survive.

PS i am not equiped by an uber guild. I do most of the things by myself, as a ranger i am alone and proud to help and ride through Norrath.

Fifix, 52 Ranger.



My god. I think everyone that posted that some of these stats are not worth putting up HAVE ONLY PLAYED CASTERSand never played a Ranger. They just think that every group can just get a tank because its just an overabundance of them.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! If you havent noticed, not many people make warriors anymore! Anyway, don't EVENstart posting against it until you have played a Ranger not to 46, but to 55 and tell me if all those stats are needed. All you people are going, "Oh, Rangers don't need to get aggro, all they need is STR."

No.

STR doesn't do much of anything to your damage output and IF you are going to try to do a lot of damage, you will stay on aggro for a while, mobs constantly beating you for 150-310 (from mobs around my level *58*) and since you dont care much of your STA,AGI,or AC, you have an HP count of 2 (lower than the enchanter's 1 hp count) and you just died in one hit.

Now lets look at me. I have 2205 HP, 966 AC, 151 STR, 133 STA, 120 AGI, 119 DEX, 120 WIS, 95 INT, 90 CHA. When we dont have a tank, or if he died, I can go toe to toe with a mob as long as I have a healer with me or I would have to root occasionally and heal myself. Even though we aren't pure tanks, we are light tanks. And all the casters that posted against ranger stats should play a ranger to level 60 only doing nothing but increasing STR.. I'd only increase my STR by 120 points with planar power, and the luclin innates and pop innates.
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Why do things that matter the most never end up being a choice?
some thoughts
# Sep 21 2001 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
10 posts
First Rangers need mana because they are casters.
A ranger who do not cast can't be a good ranger.
we are hybrids... It means we can't tank efficiently.

We need DEX, no comment here, it is obvious.
Magic Resist is VERY important above level 50.
Reach such level and you will see how it comes without Magic resist.

INT is also important. Learning a skill is based on the best value between WIS and DEX.
So... according to the gear you have you will maybe need INT also.

A very important thing for a Ranger : all you need is an appropriate equipment.
It is hard to understand but so true...

STR is NOT important.
At uber levels you'll need HP, Haste and STA !
for tradeskills you'll need DEX, WIS (or INT) and STR.

For Planes you'll need AGI, DEX and SvMagic.

To solo you'll need HP, STA, AC and AGI.
Ranger is the coolest class in EQ. But very hard to play and understand.
- We are not Druids (we don't ask for donation when sowing people)
- We are not warriors (AC and HP are too low)

We rangers need to enhance and improve a lot of things. HP STA Haste AGI DEX WIS and AC...
Doh, it is so annoying sometimes to change your gear but it is the only good way to survive.

PS i am not equiped by an uber guild. I do most of the things by myself, as a ranger i am alone and proud to help and ride through Norrath.

Fifix, 52 Ranger.
RE: some thoughts
# Feb 07 2003 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
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INT is essentially useless. It would be quite odd for a ranger to have higher INT than WIS, and would not help for mana at all. Since rangers start with more WIS, and more ranger stuff has WIS than INT, INT is basically a pointless stat. Now if I could cheaply get my INT to 250, I might do it for fletching alone. But it really would be easier to get 250 WIS in any case. Find me some 100pp, ranger only 50-100 INT pieces and I'll use INT for tradeskills. Otherwise, let eveyone else have the INT.
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RE: some thoughts
# Dec 06 2001 at 11:28 AM Rating: Default
10 posts
STR is NOT important.

Wrong. STR means ATK rating.
90% of the ranger's job in a group is to damage-deal and 90% of his damage-dealing at these levels is made by meleeing, therefore a ranger without strength has nothing to do in high-level settings.

It's time for you to understand this.

Edited, Thu Dec 6 11:28:50 2001
RE: some thoughts
# Jan 30 2002 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
Actually of all the stats he mentioned, strength really is the least important. It is said that for every 10 additional STR you add, you add about 1 (one) point of damage to your attack. Concentrating on AC first, then AGI (a Ranger's main stat), DEX (for use with proc'ing weapons and bows), and the ever-important Magic Resist, is where it's at for the later-life Ranger, in my experience.
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RE: some thoughts
# Feb 08 2002 at 7:43 AM Rating: Default
32 posts
1) STR is a ranger's PRIMARY stat post 50!!!!!!
It raises your ATK which is checked vs. a mobs AC to see if you hit. You won't hit HARDER, but more OFTEN so you increase your DAMAGE---it's YOUR JOB

2) AGI and AC are for TANKS!!! If need to focus on AC and AGI as a Ranger you are not doing your job!!! STOP GETTING HIT!!! YOU ARE LIKE A ROGUE, NOT A WARRIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3)DEX is great for Archery, but if you are using a proc weapon often post 50 you are in for a surprise (OOps did I die from taking aggro??)

IN SUMMARY
Know YOUR role. Get your STR high to do damage, get your WIS high so you can keep mobs OFF you (Jolt etc) and buff every tank with the BEST ATK buffs of any class.

At least that Leafbringer guy is right that MR is very important, it's your 3rd main stat.

(I'm not saying AC isn't important, it IS as important to a ranger as it is to a rogue though, focus on damage, you will look like an idiot trying to tank, and give us all a bad rep (more of one lol)

Edited, Fri Feb 8 06:42:54 2002
RE: some thoughts
# Mar 25 2002 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
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Yes, because, as we all know, there is *always* a warrior when you need one. Due to A) My high Agi and B) my only fairly-above-average equipment I have higher AC than most SKs and Pallys. That means I tank in Velk's when there ain't no warrior.

As for proc'ing weapons, ****, I use a wrapped entropy serpent spine; great AC and damage. Jolt is cheap, fast, and easy. If I'm so low on mana I can't cast Jolt, I whip out my good ol' Servant's Blade; heck, I'm not tanking, so the loss in AC and gain in Dex is actually a good thing.

I've found MR to be of little to no importance in the standard experience grind. Of course, there's always the special circumstances (scryer and Construct of Sathir in KC are the only ones come to mind at the moment...), but that just means I take the 5 seconds to break out the resist gear (100+ in ALL resists anyone?).
RE: some thoughts
# Jun 14 2003 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
34 posts
interesting item .

Str - higher atk nice :)
Ac low - but bearable
DEX :) yay its our stat
int - useless - as any ranger who is using int for anything is mad -- we use wis ....
MR - yay - 3rd most important stat

A couple of quick points
1 We dont get the huge sta bonus that the melee hybrids get so its not so important for us .
2 Even if you have higher ac than a melee tank ( warrior sk pally bard) that just means you will get hit slightly less often BUT and this is the important point - you will get hit harder as we only wear chain and dont get the awesome plate mitigation . We can tank but what we are supposed to do is nip in smack em real hard and avoid getting our faces slapped. If a mob pulls off and chews a caster - let the chanter deal .. if not pile in - you can taunt anything off anyone if you use right combo of tactics and spells . (remeber your old low level spells tangling weeds and flamelick .. try chain casting them while taunting and slapping and see how long it takes for you to get chewed - then let the real tanks do their job .. regain and hold taunt )

hmmmm - wrote more than i thought i would sorries

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because
# May 03 2001 at 5:16 PM Rating: Default
it helps you learn skills faster so if your hurting in fletching INT is a good thing to have.
why??
# Apr 13 2001 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
why is it rng only when we need wis not int!??
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 06 2001 at 12:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why do we need wis when we not casters? We are tank hybrids, and if you dont like the int? get some Tolans!
RE: why??
# Nov 12 2001 at 5:01 AM Rating: Default
23 posts
umm...a hybrid is, well, a hybrid between a fighter class and a caster class. Essentially, we are warrior druids. Wisdom affects how much mana we have to cast spells. You are a level 46 at the time of your writing, I'm sure you've cast spells before, you should know this. The reason int seems wasted on a ranger only item is because most, if not all trade skills increase based on Wis or Int, whichever is higest. Rangers being wis casters will likely have buffed their wis much higher than their int, so wis will be the stat used in making arrows, bows or whatever trade skills you use. Not much other use for int for a ranger, unless there are skills that use int only.
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RE: why??
# Dec 13 2002 at 7:48 PM Rating: Default
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actually wis increases your trade skill success rate while int increases how often your skill goes up, even your melee skills go up faster with higher int. and for the guy that thinks we are more like rogues, get your chicken a** into the fight we are 3/4 warrior 1/4 druid. not exactly primary tanks but higher on the tank list than rogues.

44 ranger on veeshan

Edited, Fri Dec 13 19:26:08 2002
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RE: why??
# Jan 27 2003 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
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SoE has confirmed that whichever is higher, wisdom or intelligence, is the sole determining factor on skill-ups, and the level in the skill is the sole determining factor on successes.
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RE: why??
# Feb 08 2002 at 7:46 AM Rating: Default
32 posts
We are rogue/druids

nuff said, pity for those that don't know
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