listen guys i got my blacksmithing to 190 i faild 2/3 times on the teirdal stuff its crazy!... u the worse thing is that u need to pay about 100-300pp for each piece in to even try it... also u need to make shadowtempers the worse thing grr... this **** is so crazy to get its not funny u need elven blood witch drops of elven pirates in oot or the bandits in gfay it drops about 1/10 out of the bandits its not that common and man... for each shadowtemper u need 2 essence of shadow witch drops of shadowmen u cant single pull shadowmen unless u are lvl 37 at least then they all con green point is that shadowmen are by far undercond atleast the necromancers and clerics and the essence of shadow has a average drop for me 45 minutes of camping depending how many u killing 45minutes for me when iw as with 3 ather people and they let me have any that drop and we were taking out them VERY fast and 45 minutes average for drops...soloing at 37 its like 1 per a hour or hour and a half the price of the item isnt worth to even try to make it... and the camping time u could go camp something way better or just kill HG in rathe and be happy buying something way better... + the blacksmithing skill req is just out of mind...190... isnt enough i seppose u need to max it... or havew at least 230+....to be prody sure u wont fail skill maxes at 250...

