Stein of Moggok  

 

Be warned if you should feel like doing this quest
I think it has been nerfed.

I have an agnostic enchanter and I cannot get the Ogre's
to let me do the turn ins. I've slaughtered many Dwarf guards
and still nothing. I cannot even do the newbie Lizardman Meat
quest to raise faction.
Clurg and the Warrior guildmaster are indifferent to me, and
its not good enough.

I've finally raised my faction enough to do the Lizardman Meat
quest and after tons of tons of turn ins Clurg still does not
like me well enough and the alliance line of spells do not work
on him anymore. As much as I would like to do this quest for
old times sake it just doesn't seem I am going to be able to.
I've tried Ogre illusion and DE illusion both to no avail.

Edited, Dec 26th 2009 5:18am by heavydrop

Hi All. Just trying this quest so my chanter could bake some more and as of today Frostbite is still broken. After reading many posts on other pages and such, I see that you must now cast identify on the Regurgitonic to see if it's bad or not. Guess I'll try that and go get a new one. That's a long run if it is so I would try it before you run all the way back to Frostbite in West Karana. Hope this helps everyone.


Mezmerado
<Bonds of Honor>
Level 38 Enchanter on Stromm

Lucy lists two steins (1HBlunt and normal). My guess (and I haven't read all the posts below - too many of them) is that the 1H Blunt version was an old reward for the quest and now the quest gives the non weapon version. This assumption is partly based on item numbers (6359 vs. 13380) and that I've not seen the 1HB version around.

Can this item be recharged and if so how is it done?

I assume lvl 8 is because A Darkelf Enchanter can do this at 8. Id like to still think he/she would be agnostic. And still need to use "Alliance"

I hope this guy about 5 posts down is wrong, I hope they have not nerfed this. I now have a lvl 12 Highelf Enchanter, Agnostic. I have made several alt enchanters in my time, and stripped and remade them. With another Highelf Enchanter I did this whole quest, DarkElf form and all, but I forgot to cast alliance on the FINAL guy!!! I assume that would have raised him up one standing from indiferent or whatever to Aimiable. He basically thanked me for the book, and explained I should leave before I would be crushed.

I'd therefore assume an agnostic Darkelf would also have to cast alliance. If she chose whatever god Ogres are, she would not, but would suffer a lot as a chanty in her days. (if they can even pick that god)

So I am assuming the lvl and faction is all based on this one spell. I really do not want to wait untill 20 to get this (being Ogre Illusion)

So I hope they just did what I did, and frgot to cast and are mistaken.

I did the stein quest and am still getting the cup. How exactly do you get the 1hb version?

Does anyone please have information about the alternative version of the Stein of Moggok. According to the Lucy database -http://lucy.fnord.net/item.html?entryid=62451 - the item went live in April but I have never heard another thing about it. The alternate stein has the same stats except it is also a 1HB weapon with combat effect of healing instead of 3 charges. please let me know. thanks

I think this is right, lemmee know otherwise

Because of a new patch, enchanter's illusion line of spells have been nerfed quite a bit. They can no longer change into a Dark Elf and have faction modifiers for anyone besides Dark Elves. To do this quest the easy way for an enchanter of the light you MUST have the level 20 Ogre illusion spell or the Ogres WILL kill you! I hate Verant for nerfing them so badly...*sigh*

I just got one of these today and was a little disappointed that it only has 3 charges. Can these be recharged somehow?

I have been doing this quest with my Gnome enchanter for some time as a way to fund his trade skills. I went for another stein this evening and when I gave the regurgitonic to Frostbite he refused it telling me that he had no use for the item.

Has this quest been changed?

(Note: This is a dupe post from the Quest page...just in case someone reads one but not the other)

Okay, not so much a safety tip as a "Damn, now I have to do that all again" prevention tip.

I made level 12 tonight and decided to run the quest.

Made a trip to OOT and bought a dozen or so Kiola Nuts (Yes, I plan on doing this one several times)
They were just over 1 gold each, and there was no price difference between Indifferent and Amiable faction. Illusion: Wood Elf

The Eruds Tonic was easiest of all of 'em. No negative faction hits, and a positive for EruditeCitizens or some such.
less than a gold for the Kiss of Death. No Illusion, as I am an Erudite.

HoneyComb was probably the most annoying, since I couldn't find a bixie with one to save my life. I was using my ranger to track 'em. Finally managed to get enough, though. Also found what may be a bixie spawn point in E Commons and got lucky buying 6 off the vendor nearby. About a gold each.
Illusion: Halfling and an Alliance (which probably wasn't needed)

The Fish: Chose the No Negative Faction method. Lotta running, but what the hell.
A time saver for other who will be doing this repeatedly- After you get teh Regurgitonic and head back for W Karana, swing by Surefall on your way and get a new Nitrate. One less run next time.
No cost. Illusion: Gnome for Regurgitonic and Illusion: Human with an Alliance for the Nitrates and Frostbite.

Handed them all in to the SeaFarer's Roost (Illusion: Human + Alliance. Probably necessary, but didn't feel like testing to find out)

Headed off to Ogguk. Illusion: Dark Elf works fine to get in. The Bartender is way the hell in the back of the zone. Don't forget to reapply Illuson if you aren't really a Dark Elf
Here's that Tip I mentioned....
Alliance only works on one NPC at a time (I tested after the fact)
First time out, I allianced him, then the bouncer...and didn't recheck him. He ate my book.

Second time, I just Allianced him...no problem, and my faction at turn in was Indifferent.

I think I can probably do the whole thing in under 30 minutes at this point...assuming I have the Honeycomb and Kiola Nut to start out with.

Total cost (even buying the honeycomb from Vendors): around 4 plat.

Have fun, enjoy all the healthy running!

This may be a dumb question...I keep seeing people talk about enchanters using the DE illusion for Clurg. Is there a problem using the Ogre illusion (if you are already high enough level to ast it)?

I play a high elf wizard on the test server (so everything bad that can happen, happens here first). I started following the directions (found on http://www.graffe.com) and guess what, half of the items are no drop. So I gathered the rest of the stuff, turned it in for the compendium, and it's no drop. How on earth is a wizard supposed to get one of the better items available for +int if they've nerfed the ability to pass anything onto an enchanter! While I'm not KOS to most of the Ogres, I am to the bouncers. I tried turning it in once already and ended up losing the compendium (you are an enemy to us, leave while you still can), and then getting my rear handed to me by one of the bouncers. I couldn't even gate fast enough. This is crazy. Any ideas anyone?

I have been doing the stein quest a lot recently and last week I tried to turn the regurgitonic into frostbite, but he said "I do not need that item" and gave it back to me. I tried again today with the PoP expansion hoping it was a bug and was fixed but no luck. Anyone have any ideas. BTW this is on the Tribunal server.

Update:
My faction was a little screwed, but I fixed it to where I am now indifferent. Still no luck with Frostbite. Going to try to get my faction to kindly and see what happens.

Edited, Sat Nov 16 23:18:24 2002

The steins are very plentiful in the Bazaar on the Drinal server. The price for them is about 150PP.

I did the quest yesterday with my 33 ranger and a friend who's a 30 magician. We got the compendium, and headed to Ogguk, where the ogres don't like us very much. I tried to give the compendium to the bartender, and his bouncer promptly aggroed me. I ran out of the bar, and got killed in the hallway. In the mean time, my mag friend, now safe from aggroing, gave his book to the bartender, and he said something about having guts to come here, and that was it. He kept both our books, and neither one of us got a stein (and I got killed to boot). The bottom line here is that if you don't have decent faction (I'd say indifferent or better) then you won't get the stein.

The description says that this item has 5 charges of light healing. Can this item be recharged? If so where and how?

Thanks

Is this quest changed? I can't give frostbite the wolf the regurgitonic suddenly. I've done this quest a dozen times before and every time he gave me the fish for the tonic. But today, he just gives the tonic back every time saying 'I have no need for that.'

Faction doesn't seem to make a difference (I've tried it all different ways in different illusions.)

UPDATE: I had to destroy the 'tonic I had and get another in AkAnon before Frostbite would take it - looks like there is a chance you can get a bad 'tonic.

Edited, Wed May 22 12:54:32 2002

Ok So Update. I started this Quest. So far the nuts were easy to get, im just BLIND. There was a merchant in the hut, just as you come in the the left... not at the counter. I bought a lot of his nuts. I have to say seriously the biggest pain was the stupid honey combs. I remember when Misty thicket was over run with Bixies. I could not even BUY the honeycombs from vendors anywhere...

(when i get home, i'll post the tower the bixies spawn at) - but when you leave Rivervale if you take a right, And follow the zone wall (around the 90 degree turn) to "The wall" The second tower in (i think thats the one) 2 bixies spawn there. a Drone and a regular bixie. Eventually even a BIXIE QUEEN. She was green to me at 12 but her spells DID hit. A sort of Fireburst and a blindness spell that actually lasted a long time.

So then (I doubt there is an EASY way to work this in..for quick questing, but I get my honey comb. I play it safe and gave the jumjum girl 30 gold not 3pp.

Then I gate out and start my run to Qeynos. The most annoying thing? I am running through Kithikor, durring the day, all is happy. I cant turn around without a bixie on me, spawning, dying, flying. Its like a damn bixie SWARM. AND I buy 6 honey combs from the Ranger vendors. I kill a few and honeycomb is all over. So if you can come HERE in some round about way to get the honeycombs, or just zone out of Misty thicket one more and hunt them, they are mostly all over the West commons entrance and the Highhold entrance. I mean everywhere. JUST FYI. because it was honey madness.

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I have a lvl 8 DE Necro. who could also use one. is faction about the same as a lvl 8 DE enchanter? Because I could get a few of these for alts... and or selling. I think its lame things like centaurs dont have a faction hit, but a fish does....

Some post talked about making a dog cough up the Fish? isn't that a better and SURE way to get the fish? and no nasty faction hit?

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I also have an enchantress. and shes 12. with bind. Ill just bind myself (with both toons) close to.. but not in danger of.... and see how this goes, questing for this tonight I think.
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Edited, Wed Jun 26 23:10:00 2002

I've read that its easiest for enchanters to do this quest, but was wondering how it would be for a level 19 Vah Shir Beastlord to complete. Supposedly there's no racial tensions with any other races (although almost no npcs in Shadow Haven will talk to me, especially the @#!$! Beastlord trainer there!), so hopefully we aren't KOS at any of these places.

Here is my method of doing the Stein of Moggok quest. I am a human enchanter who started doing this quest at lvl 16, and have now done it more than 20 times at lvl 20 :)

First, Bind at EFP Docks. Go to OOT for the kiola nuts, gate back to dock.

Then run to tunnel, get a SOW in exchange for breeze (easy trade to get at anytime if you ask)

Go to Misty Thicket & either hunt bixies to collect 3 honeycombs or buy them (I bought 6, ready for next run)

Take them to Kizzie Mintopp in the Herb Jar to the right of the Fool's Gold and give her 30gp (NOT 3pp) and the 3 honeycombs, get the lore honey jum drink.

Then run to qeynos. Here I have a mule lvl 3 SK, bound at the the lake in the Temple of Life, so it doesnt matter how bad the faction gets, if he gets killed, he respawns in the right place. This one is on a separate account, so I cast enduring breath, and off he goes to kill the Koalindl Fish (LORE Item). I also have enduring breath on so wait around till I get a fish corpse.

Then go to Erudin and go to the Hawk's Inn, buy one Innoruk's Kiss of Death (LORE ITEM). (Although you can BUY more than one, you loose any surplus when you do anything with it, so dont waste money.) Go to the top floor of the library and give the Drink to Sinnkin Highbrow, the bookworm. She'll give you the Erud's Tonic (no drop lore item) in exchange.

Gate back to EFP Dock, and stand IN FRONT of Bartender Gregor, give him the Erud's Tonic, the Koalindi Fish corpse, the kiola nut and the honey jum (all 4 items at once), he will then give you the bartender's compendium.

Next, run to EC tunnel, get another SOW for breeze, run through Inothule swamp. run to Feerott. At zone entrance , cast illusion DE AND invis, run to Ogguk.

Zone, re cast Illusion AND invis. Run to Clurg, (LOC of P200 N230 in the bar, number 17 on the Ogguk map at eqmaps) keep illusion, but drop invis, cast Alliance on Clurg. (DO NOT miss this bit out like I did first time, he will give you nothing back) con him, make sure you are amiable or better, give hi the bartender's compendium, get the stein, and gate the hell outa there. After this many quests, I am now welcomed warmly by Clurg WITHOUT alliance.

Sell Stein, and start again. Time for quest about 1.5 hours. Porting will reduce this to as little as 30 mins if you keep a supply of nuts & honeycombs in the bank.

I will auction a start price of 225pp, but accept anything over 200 if they talk nicely to me.

Elakratta <Blades of Honor>
Lvl 16 Human Enchanter
Master Jeweler Errollissi Marr

I am a Chanter on the Solusek Ro server. Following the advice here and elsewhere I have started running this quest to finance the rest of the gear on my wish list. I usually try to keep one on me and if not I could probably get you one within a couple hours.

So if any of you non-chanters on Solusek Ro need a Stein, please send a tell in-game to Schill or an email to Chill@allakhazam.com and I will be happy to hook you up with one.

Hiho, vallon zek server here. Just wanted to say that if you're a DE and you do this quest make sure you get off the boat before it docks so you can cast illusion in Erudin without the guards seeing you. Also remember there are guards in Freeport so when you bind there be sure you are out of the way. It's easier to do the quest as a lighty. BTW you HAVE to cast alliance. I didnt know this the first time and did the entire quest for naught. Did it agian though and I'm very happy.
Cirenity
14th season chanter
myth and magic

Can a 27 Wizard (Human) do the quest alone, or does it require an enchanter?

I WANT THE STEIN OF MOGGOK! can a wizard erudite do it im lvl 12 if so explain what u do and can it be chaper than 100pp?