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Delightful Orb of Forgotten Magic  
 

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM PLACEABLE
Slot: PRIMARY
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 30
DMG: 19 Dmg Bonus: 26
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
WIS: +12 INT: +12 AGI: +6 HP: +45 MANA: +35 ENDUR: +35
SV POISON: +7
Recommended level of 63.
Effect: Ice Shock (Combat, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 55
WT: 0.4 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL except BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:1H Blunt
Stackable:No
Theme:Miragul's Menagerie
Sold:Yes
Tribute:10500
Lucy Entry By:Delasa
Updated By:adetia [township rebellion]
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Lost Dungeons of Norrath Required: Yes


Average Price: 6,500pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 60

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Criticals
# Mar 15 2013 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Here in the year 2013, I can say without a doubt that this item does critically proc its spell effect. When the item crits, it gives the same item icy glow effect, the same "Targets skin freezes over" emote, the only added difference being that it notes your character has delivered a critical blast. I've seen the same 642 critical effect when it does seem to crit.

What I am curious as to, is whether this is related to the Spell Casting Fury AA - because at 3/3 points and level 55, I see this thing proc the standard 320 damage quite often, while the Ice Shock spell crits seem to be on the rather low end (Correlating with the 7% maxed Spell Casting Fury AA). I may test this with another character sans Spell Casting Fury and see if I'm able to replicate the results.

Question
# Jul 13 2005 at 11:45 AM Rating: Default
Does anybody know if the damage on this proc was upgraded with the upgrade to the actual wizard spell in the great spell overhaul? Assuming that's true this is going to proc for over 500 damage now.

Just a thought.
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RE: Question
# Nov 18 2005 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I use one as a 64 druid... and the only times the proc is more damage than 320 is when my aa ability to do a critical dmg with DD spells kicks in .. then it does a very nice 640 dmg.
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RE: Question
# Jul 15 2005 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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The wizard spell may have been upgraded but the spell on this item has'nt from my personal experience. My 65 Cleric uses this and it always proc's for 320 damage. I've never seen it hit for more. Sure wish it would tho, that would make it alot sweeter!

Just my experience, FWIW
hmmm
# Dec 12 2004 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
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[quote][/quote]i feel that the proc being what lvl it is at lvl one is awsome!my low lvls,and my high lvls would kill to be able to do that!currently saving for it! i dont think so because 2.1 divided is 1.1 by equal amount of power of the fourth which equals what it is so you cant use it at lvl one and i dont believe that when you multiply by the fourth power you get lvls 35 and above. by the way i have no idea what i was talking about

Edited, Sun Dec 12 16:26:06 2004
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#Kepness, Posted: Oct 20 2004 at 6:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) NIce offhand to Dedgarex's Flintforged Cudgel.... both have decent ratio w/ Soulscream Belt...
RE: offhand
# Dec 06 2004 at 4:35 AM Rating: Decent
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just to let ya know, this weapon cant be used in offhand :) primary only
Not that this isn't a good weapon :) I just bought one for my beastie today for 6k. can't wait till I ding 55 so it will proc, I'm currently lvl 53.

Edited, Mon Dec 6 04:37:10 2004
insane pet weapon for mage
# Oct 17 2004 at 1:09 PM Rating: Default
with burnout and a haste spell a mage pet could deal out dps better then its caster.

i would say my pet +bo+haste= 2-3 hits a sec.

now im not sure what the chances are of the shock to go off but im assuming that it would go off very often with that kind of speed.

of course it would be a waste to give this to a pet with the per minion AA


EDIT: i assume you can give lore items to pets

Edited, Sun Oct 17 14:10:27 2004
You Flamers Suck
# Sep 15 2004 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Yall should just stop with all this stupid flaming it is a decent item for the amount of effort that is put into getting it. They sell for 5k on my server (Quellious) and to most player a primary with 12 wis/int is a great upgrade. You see a ton of classes with this equiped at lvl 65, combat is so so can get better but for 5k a 320dmg dd proc aint BS

So quit ********* its a game, you want good stuff get in good guild, raid. Stop complaining that the simplest things to get are so un-uber

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RE: You Flamers Suck
# Oct 26 2004 at 8:23 PM Rating: Default
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Hehe all of you are unlucky i bought mine for 3.5k on Antonious Bayle hehe
RE: You Flamers Suck
# Sep 28 2004 at 6:27 AM Rating: Default
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5k your lucky then lol, vazaelle they are selling anywhere from 8k-15k, were all swindlers
General
# Aug 11 2004 at 1:44 PM Rating: Default
Well, this is my first post... just thought that I would say, this weapon is one of the best 1HB weapons for a cleric up through the 40's and lower 50's provided you have haste of some kind. At 55 however, the proc is nice but I am sure at that level there are far better weapons you could find, be it as drops or purchases that would better suit a cleric. Just my two cents on the matter.
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small update
# Aug 07 2004 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
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This item now has +35 Endurance.
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Serious Nerf
# Aug 06 2004 at 12:18 PM Rating: Excellent
This wpn was given a serious nerf recently. It used to be worth over 24000 pts at the tribute master and now it only gets you 10500. It was great when I would win this on a roll or purchase it in bazaar for turn in for tribute points because I would get a bunch in one shot. Now its not worth it anymore because of the cost in bazaar.

Edited, Fri Aug 6 13:20:54 2004
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# Jun 10 2004 at 3:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I think what most of the gripers are trying to say, and I have to agree with them on this one, is that when an item comes out that grabs peoples attention and makes them buy the expansion and save the plat to buy the item only to get it nerfed later is almost a form of false advertising. Imagine you here about a really nice car and you save up for it and buy it, only to be told later "Sorry, we made this car to good, so we're going to make it consume more fuel per mile." or you buy a pc only to have the manufacturer come round to your home and tell you "Sorry, this machine is way to powerful. We're removing the graphics card." That what people are trying to get at. Unless you get a refund for this down-grading, you not going to be that happy, are you?

You can argue that it unbalances the game, but at level 1, a DOoFM, no matter how good the proc is, is almost usless. 30 delay and 1 damage, with the vague chance of a proc? Better off with an Adamantite club! With all their experience, SOE should have realised this weapons' potential, so the only reason I can think of why they made it proc at 1 to begin with was to hook people.

35 is a more reasonable level for this weapon to proc at. But at the end of the day, it should have been tested at lot more before being put out for us to use. Would SOE be willing to compensate those of you who bought this weapon for 10k+ only to find it's not not what the buyer thought?
RE: Poor
# Jan 19 2005 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with this post. It is not that I want the weapon to proc at level 1 or at level 40. I just hate when I spend 38 hours or so killing to get 8 to 10k for a weapon that works one way and then they change it. Maybe SOE needs to spend more time testing to make sure things are balanced before they release a item in the game. Isn't that why they have test servers?
DOOFM
# May 23 2004 at 5:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Was looking for a replacement for my main epic as the proc will not overwrite the 65% slow spell. So i decided to try this out.. with 40% haste offhand epic plus celerity and my buffed dex up to 277 this weapon is awesome. it procs like crazy..320..320..320. Down side is you do get mobs attention rather easily. :-)
#JACKELMYER the Braindead, Posted: Mar 29 2004 at 4:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) grrrr. buncha cry babies. My bsty is about lvl 55 and I don't care. I'm gonna blow stuff up with my dex at 240 w/ self buffs only. muahahahaha
#Zakrarna, Posted: Mar 13 2004 at 6:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok. So they nerfed an item that I spent thousand of PP to get. It happens.
RE: DOoFM
# Sep 27 2004 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
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My gripe isn't with the weapon itself; it's with the nerfing.

Ok fine...it's a decent weapon for a higher level character and the proc is still a good proc for higher levels as well. Nice stats too...

But dangit! I go out and spend every coppper I have to purchase this thing for my CLR so that I can have a snowballs chance in h@ll soloing MOBS, and literally 2 days later it gets nerfed. VERY frustrating!!! (And yes we can all question the wisdom of spending all your money on one item)

I sold my DOoFM in a fit of angst (which I now kinda regret doing) and bought an even cooler weapon for clerics which I won't be mentioning here for fear of imminent "nerfing." Just 'cause I'm paranoid doesn't they aren't out to get me. =)

Who solo's a CLR you ask? Me, for one. Pure casting is quite boring and while it is easy for a cleric to get a group, sometimes I just want to go explore by me lonesome and kill stuff all by my Clericy self.

I've managed to max all of my melee skills, which means I can actually hit something when I try. Besides, I love the expressions I get when I tell people I'm a battle cleric...they usually give me a patronizing smile, pat me on the head, and say "That's nice dear..." Until I start hitting MOBS and procing. I won't ever be a tank, but I can make a small noticible contribution in a battle.

Anyway, I'm off topic. DOoFM is still a cool weap. Sony sucks for nerfing it 2 days after I bought it.

I'm done ranting.

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RE: DOoFM
# May 26 2004 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Not always true. Damage parses of my 65 BST show the added damage of the proc make this weapon better than the DPS of many "superior" weapons, but only because he has many other group-friendly and raid-friendly AAs to complete before working on double-attack and other combat AAs.

In addition, the large delay makes it a good "combat-caster" weapon, and minimizes damage from those pesky DS-enhanced LDoN MOBs :).


Edited, Wed May 26 11:04:53 2004
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RE: DOoFM
# May 20 2004 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I was going to give the post a bad score, but by doing so, it would've knocked it out of view. I decided against doing that to show what the current thoughts of many EQ gamers are like... and on Morden Rasp, the newest server available, I hear opinions like Quender's more than I'd like.

This is a great item, and there really shouldn't be any type of complaint from a player of *any* level. It has a good proc and nice stats. It is fitting for someone in their 60s... not their 30s.

Instead of dissing it, anyone below level 60 should feel lucky to even be able to wield it.
RE: DOoFM
# Mar 15 2004 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Except for the fact that at 35 casters have to use huge ammounts of mana (for their lvl) to do that much damage. Doing that much damage on a PROC at that level is very very unbalanced.

320 on a proc even at 55 is still much more than most procs.
RE: DOoFM
# May 05 2004 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
I have one on my 65 bard and i'm very happy with it. On full group short fights in ssra temple with dex maxxed it was proccing between 2 and 5 times a fight. For someone whose main job at the time was mana and haste giver (no chanter or shammy around at the time) the extra 640-1600 dmg was welcome. Not to mention the dmg outpout of this thing. ok 30 isn't that great a delay but I'm critting in high 100's even up to 210 with this baby. When I'm Off PL'ing folks in dungeons I've started to just tank stuff for the fun of it cos with this and my epic in hand I munch through stuff. It's all relative really, I am in a relatively high end guild tho we haven't hit elementals yet we're edging closer day by day. We don't have access to the best gear in the game and I'm not particularly rich so for a tradeable weapon I think it's pretty neat

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Nerfing Items
# Mar 01 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
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I have no problem with making Everquest hard or by making you have to work for a magic item. The problem I have is that SOE nerfs things. I believe that SOE is running any upgrades on a test server before they release it to the general public right? If so then between the programers writing the software and the testing process shouldn't they find any out of balance items like a weapon that proc's at lvl 1? I think that it is unfair to release something to the public then after people work to get item they randomly and with out recourse change the item. This proves to me two things first that SOE is looking to keep companies like IGE in buisness and two that no one that writes the code for SOE actually playes the Game.
RE: Nerfing Items
# Mar 08 2004 at 8:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe SOE is just plain lying when they say they made a terrible mistake and they need to nerf the crap out of stuff a few weeks after EVERY **** expansion.

They gold-rush every single release. Insanely good benefits in one form or another get everyone to run out and buy the expansion, then they say "OMG this unbalances the game, we didn't realize" and they bring out the bat.

They MUST be fully aware of the unbalanced nature of all this strewn candy that gets people flocking to the store.

The latest example is ridiculous.
GoD tribute system.
They want us to believe they were clueless about tribute values? That's a total crock.
Tribute values were super-high across the board. SHIVS yielded 1200 points for crying out loud.
Now you have to turn in your reproductive organs for that.
Greatstaff of Thunder was under 200pp in the bazaar and yielded 30K favor.
I refuse to believe they had no idea beforehand.
We are played for suckers every expansion release.
SOE is more interested in getting everyone to buy every expansion, than in the health and quality of the playing environment.
I'm sick of it.


Edited, Mon Mar 8 08:39:31 2004
I dunno
# Feb 28 2004 at 6:17 AM Rating: Decent
For me, a level 55 Beastlord, This weapon is pretty good. I don't have my epic yet, and I'm weilding Steward Ritual Claws in my offhand.

The proc happens about every 20-30 hits with my primary hand at a dex of 149.

It's certainly nothing to sneeze at when I'm soloing, considering that most of the time, I'm allowing my pet to damage the mob until it's at about 30%, then jumping into melee and finishing it off while it starts to run.

It's not the best weapon out there, but it certainly has it's uses.
WTF
# Feb 25 2004 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
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Ok how *** can this get i worked my *** off to come up with the money to get that now they nerf it even further the only reason i got that is for the proc now its practicly worthless to me now that is a load of BS!!
y wont it prock
# Feb 24 2004 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
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im a lvl 52 war on the 7th hammer server and i got the new expancion gates of discord i took it with me to the new zones and was fighting those turtle things in a group near the camp and for some reason my delightful orb wouldnt process??????? it made me mad b cause the only reason i have it is for the process any ideas please let me know
RE: y wont it prock
# Feb 24 2004 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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The Delightful Orb of Forgotten Magic was recently changed so that it won't proc until your character is level 55.
Duh
# Feb 22 2004 at 7:41 PM Rating: Decent
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The reason this weapon was nerfed is because it was not being used in the way it was intended. This was never meant to be a twink weapon, thats why it has a reccomended level of 63. The only class post-55 that realistically would use this weapon now is either a casting class or a Bard... the damage/delay/proc combo on this is perfect for a Bard. Hits hard but slow, and packs a nasty punch every now and again. If you want to twink an alt go buy a CHoS those still proc at lvl 1.... for now
SOE NERFS
# Feb 11 2004 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
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SOE can't give us an edge now can they.

"If your toon is great it will be nerfed"
#iganias, Posted: Feb 12 2004 at 12:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yeah, these stupid fu cks cant give us a break and let something good in the game, i bet the CHOS will be next to fuc k up the lvl of effect
RE: SOE NERFS
# Feb 11 2004 at 1:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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Can't give you an edge?!

There is no loot-dropping mob in the game (new GoD zones that are still be explored aside) which has not been killed by players. Leveling from 1 to 10 is now something you can almost do by accident. No spellbook-only mode pre-35. No **** levels. Very powerful melee disciplins. Items that boost spell effects. Hundreds of optional experience benefits from AA. Pets are now a formidable force in almost every aspect of the game. Melee damage output is at an all-time high from all of the bonuses, attack modifiers, haste items, etc. Charming, after countless nerfs is still one of the most powerful ways to take down high level mobs solo or in small groups. Even after the addition of mitigating mobs, slow is still ungodly powerful. More classes can solo now than ever before. Mana and hitpoint regen is an an all time high. Average AC of tanks has gone up unimaginably.

I'm sorry, what exactly was it that you wanted an edge over?
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# Feb 11 2004 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
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im sorry but i am mostly a solo player that has no guild. and i gotta say for you people that are soo arrogant as too say that the game has balance, your wrong. if you group with 4 different guild regularly and get to be pled on every alt you have, and every alt you have has some kind of loot far beyond what they are able to attain on thier own, ya the game will seem like it favors the player. but as a non-twink solo player, it is hard as heck to attain better gear and to xp. it take me a week to level through most levels after 30. pre 30 it took 2days at a time. and i think its pretty unfair that when solo non-twink players save enough pp to gain an item which will finally make them more functional, it get nerfed. gg soe making us pay to play a game that they intentionally make unattainable goals for.
RE: SOE NERFS
# Mar 09 2004 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
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"im sorry but i am mostly a solo player that has no guild."

So you are going it alone in a game designed to be social. That will be hard, but EQ actually makes it fairly doable which is nice. Don't expect a free ride as a solo player, it ain't comin. Note: I've played solo most of my career too, and it was slow as heck. That was my choice.

"and i gotta say for you people that are soo arrogant as too say that the game has balance, your wrong. if you group with 4 different guild regularly and get to be pled on every alt you have, and every alt you have has some kind of loot far beyond what they are able to attain on thier own"


Ok for starters it doesn't matter if you regularly group with one guild or 85... I get plenty of help from my guild and so could you if you spent the time find one. I'm NOT saying you should, I'm just saying that you COULD if you wanted to.

"ya the game will seem like it favors the player."

Well, let's see... If I walk into the game naked with nothing going for me, I can level up to 10, do newbie armor quests, go hunt some decent exp mobs in PC with random groups, level up to 20 and then do LDON with other random groups.

Or, I can go the solo route if my class is a good solo class. GoD makes plat fairly easy to get, so I can equip myself in some basic useful gear (nothing too twinkish, just basic stuff). I can then choose from dozens of zones that are decent exp for solo players.

At the higher levels you're going to have to at lesat group from time to time. LDON and the LFG tool make that fairly easy. Once you're 62+ a fairly small number of zones with good exp leads to excellent chances of getting a group.

"as a non-twink solo player, it is hard as heck to attain better gear and to xp."

Yep, but twinking aside, that's the road you've chosen. You could do LDON or any of the popular exp zones.

"it take me a week to level through most levels after 30."

Me too. You didn't expect to level up instantly did you? I've just cleared 50AA in level 65 after FOUR YEARS... did you expect to get to the same point in 2 months?

"pre 30 it took 2days at a time."

yes, it gets slower as you go up. Wait until you get to 50, then it's REALLY slow!

"and i think its pretty unfair that when solo non-twink players save enough pp to gain an item which will finally make them more functional, it get nerfed."

If you saved up enough for this item, there are a lot of other good options.
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# Feb 11 2004 at 8:11 PM Rating: Default
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Hah!

Life IS easier for you solo folks without a guild backing and such... have you been to the bazaar lately?

First off, obviously you aren't complaining about the DOoFM because you couldn't possibly have one. If you do have one, and don't have a high level main or anything, you're just proving the case that things really have gotten too easy... simply because you were able to get such an item.

Frankly though, if you spent 8-10k on this before and to you that was alot of money, then you made a stupid purchase. This was always a rather lame item, priced way above what its really worth, sorta like the Windblade.

Unattainable goals? ROFL! You are able to visit any zone that the rest of us went through, some revamped but most not, and you're able to go to bazaar and buy gear more powerful than we could have ever dreamed of back in the day... for a measly amount of plat. With screwed up things like recommended level weapons doing full damage at level 1, your life is soooo much easier.

The best gear around only a few expansions ago is now next to worthless... so worthless, I don't even pick most of it up and just let it rot... not worth cluttering my trader.

If you think the game is too hard, go back and play Diablo 2, its more your style. The game IS easier, and the item in question sucks from level 1 to level 65 (I have one for the heck of it, but spending 8k on an item is next to nothing for me) and I can tell you that it is a waste in most situations, definitely not worth crying over. If you bought it and that was alot of plat to you, well, that was kinda foolish even when it DID proc early.

"but as a non-twink solo player, it is hard as heck to attain better gear and to xp. it take me a week to level through most levels after 30. pre 30 it took 2days at a time"

Sorry, you didn't make any kind of point here other than to say you just don't have the patience to play EQ and should stop wasting your money on it.
RE: SOE NERFS
# Feb 12 2004 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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I actually agree with Nixoh. Players today have it too easy. As for having an edge, a number of people have dual accounts (or even more) and PL their alts. I got where I am by good old fashion hard work.I was given some armor as a newbie but only because the person got it from the Crushbone Belt quest. Every time I sat down to med until 35th level, I hoped something would not whack me upside the head.

Give you an Edge? SoE has done that and a whole lot more.
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RE: SOE NERFS
# Jun 09 2004 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
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I am one of those people with 2 accounts. I pl my own toons but everything I have I have earned. I have one of these on my 60 shammie and will be passing it down to another toon as soon as I finish my final epic fight. I agree that this game is getting alot easier than it was, but it truely is a social game and if you just do a little work you can find a guild even a lower end one and get at least mediocre items. It is all about finding the right people.
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Price Drop
# Feb 10 2004 at 11:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, since the proc has now been nerfed to lvl 55, I expect to see the price drop drastically on this. Already selling for 6-7K on Brell where they were consistently 10K or so.
RE: Price Drop
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RE: Price Drop
# Feb 11 2004 at 3:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I imagine they will drop in price - SoE have raised the proc level from 1 to 35 to 55 in the space of a few months - these made a very nice partner with the Copper Hammer of Striking for duel-wielders such as Rangers and Monks. Admittedly they were overpowered at 1st level, but they gave you something to look forward to at 35th. 55th seems a long way off, and by then the 320DD proc will either get resisted far more frequently or be a drop in the ocean to equivalent level mobs. Oh well!



RE: Price Drop
# Feb 11 2004 at 3:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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The price on Rodcet Nife was already down to 6.5k due to the change from 1 to 35. ::agrees with the price drop due to change to 55::

And, I completely agree with the proc being useless at 55. With 100 dex, the orb might proc 4 times a fight. Of those 4 times, 2 might hit in LDoN dungeons on level 50ish mobs, and forget about trying to get the thing to do damage on most raid encounters on red mobs. Another good item nerfed to near uselessness...
Orb & Non-Melee Wisdom Casters
# Feb 10 2004 at 7:37 PM Rating: Default
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I bought one of these orbs for my cleric at level 52 for one reason and one reason alone, the proc actually enabled me to solo through melee. I sometimes wonder if Sony has purposely realized this fact and now uped the level even farther in an attempt to force "healers" back to groups.
RE: Orb & Non-Melee Wisdom Casters
# Feb 13 2004 at 2:06 PM Rating: Default
I have to agree. I as a cleric tend to solo or partner with my husband. I was tickled that I could hit something for that much and not have to spend mana. Made life nice. Well, I guess 2 more levels and I will have it back. Kinda sucks though, a bit of a shock when I see "your will is insufficient..." bah. Back to my hammer I guess. I don't think that SOE wants anyone to be able to solo in this game.
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RE: Orb & Non-Melee Wisdom Casters
# Feb 12 2004 at 7:53 AM Rating: Default
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I can solo through nukes. Most mobs have too many hit points to be effective manawise though. Clerics were not really meant to be a solo class. I rarely have trouble finding a group though. The trick is finding one that knows what they are doing.
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RE: Orb & Non-Melee Wisdom Casters
# Feb 10 2004 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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How do you get these, do they just drop in LDoN? I really want one!
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RE: Orb & Non-Melee Wisdom Casters
# Feb 10 2004 at 10:50 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah they drop. There is a list of creatures that drop it to the right of the item info. They sell for around 12k on ARo (ayonae ro).
not at 35
# Feb 10 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
as of today, tuesday feb 10th, this no longer procs for my 42 monk...not sure what the new lvl for proc is
RE: not at 35
# Feb 10 2004 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Caster's Realm just posted that, according to EQ Live, the proc level on the Orb is now level 55+.
Re:proc
# Feb 07 2004 at 11:02 PM Rating: Default
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Hey, if you dont want it and you are on Tunare Server, just send Punyy, Slapkick, Loriani, Nytegold, or Kijari a tell sayin, "Hubbahubba"... Heh, I'll give ya some items, that arent too bad I guess.
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OY!
# Jan 27 2004 at 10:55 PM Rating: Default
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Ive had my eyes on this item all the time if anyone has one and their super twined and dont give a sheet about it and ur ON Maelin Starypyre contact me Vemanos Id really love on if u wouldnt hehe.
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#Fattz, Posted: Dec 28 2003 at 7:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You people who are ******** about how overpowered this is because it used to proc at level 1 are stupid i mean comon if you can get one of these at low levels then it dont matter because more then likely you either of a higher character who can get one or you've earned the money to buy one so either way you've paid your dues and can twink your lowbies anyway you please i also think the people ******** about it being over powered are the people who are jealous because people can afford to put them on newbie characters and they cant finish twinking out that 8th character thats at level 13. http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=877172
RE: Stfu Cry babies
# Feb 17 2004 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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You seem to forget all the ebayers and plat sellers out there. I know of a monk that bought plat and got this and was able to lvl fast and get to the point that his inexperience in actual play (he was a dumbass basically) caused a couple group wipes. I dont know if plat sellers can be stamped out completely but something like this was overpowered to proc at lvl 1 and even perhaps at lvl 35.
RE: Stfu Cry babies
# Dec 31 2003 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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This would be a useless weapon for a twink, I have one and it does proc once a fight sometimes twice and I am in my 50s now with a dex in the 170's, if you are a twink most likely u will use a centi weapon cos u still need to up all your skills even at low levels and with this in your hand by the time u got too level 20 u would be completely unrounded in all of your skills due to lack of practice / genuine experience. The only things you should really twink at low levels if u go that way is armour, 1 weapon within the damage cap and or wiz / int for mana that way u will still level quicker cos of lower downtime and raise your skills at the same time.

Edited, Wed Dec 31 00:31:51 2003
RE: Stfu Cry babies
# Dec 29 2003 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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This was indeed over powered for a level one character. Anything that allows a level one to hit for over 200 points of damage, even as a proc, is over powering. It doesn't matter if a person has paid his dues or not.

And I could easily to afford to put these on a level one if I so inclined, so don't throw that in my face.
Golden Wraps of the Compact
# Dec 18 2003 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Would you bother using this if you had Golden Wraps of the Compact? This in Primary and Golden wraps in secodary or just stick the Golden Wraps in primary and get somethign else for secondary?
Proc Level Changed
# Dec 18 2003 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I quote the downloaded text from today's patch (December 18, 2003):

Quote:
The Delightful Orb of Forgotten Magic now only procs for characters level 35 and above.
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#agraywolf, Posted: Jan 21 2004 at 12:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) thanks for clarifying that for stupid people...lol
Del Orb Proc
# Dec 15 2003 at 12:27 AM Rating: Decent
I feel that the proc being what is it at lvl one is awesome! My low lvls, and my high lvls would kill to be able to do that! Currently saving for it!
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LDON Buyable with points?
# Nov 28 2003 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
3 posts
Is this item buyable off Adventure merchants from doing LDOn quests?

If so which camps and about how many point costs?
RE: LDON Buyable with points?
# Nov 29 2003 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
39 posts
Isnt bought from LDoN merchants. Is dropped in the dungeons of LDoN ...Miraguls minagerie to be exact
Proc
# Nov 26 2003 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I think that this proc'ing at level one is too overpowering for a low level to have....its like no reccomended level on a windblade or something to that extent.....now if it started out at like 10 or 15 damage at level one then moved up to full damage at level 63....that would be better....

Edited, Wed Nov 26 11:09:06 2003
RE: Proc
# Dec 01 2003 at 4:43 PM Rating: Default
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I've got one and yes the dmg does start off lower. I got mine at 30 and dmg was around 9 at that time.
RE: Proc
# Dec 12 2003 at 11:34 AM Rating: Default
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I think he means the damage of the proc... And in that aspect he is right, it is too overpowering. Much more so than a Windblade without reccomended level, since that is somewhat controlled by the existing damage caps.
weird
# Nov 25 2003 at 8:30 PM Rating: Default
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before the mini nerf, these orb's went for like 30-50k on drinal. then after nerf they went down to like 10k-15k, all of a sudden theyre like 25k.. doesnt make sense.. anyways i got one for 15k and its definately worth it, if u could afford a decent haste ( rbg / rbb / soulscream / cocw / cof and all those other ones ).. i proc about 3 tiemns a fight at lvl 42 with 140 dex for 320 almost all the time. great wep imo.

Zikariz 42 monk of drinal
RE: weird
# Dec 07 2003 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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mebbe what he meant by it was with haste, he can hit more times and a better chance with more hits to proc
RE: weird
# Dec 03 2003 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Haste does not affect procs per unit of time. At least thats what I have read many times. Check before you /rant.
RE: weird
# Nov 28 2003 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Haste does not effect procage.
RE: weird
# Dec 01 2003 at 8:44 AM Rating: Default
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thats the dumbest comment ive seen in my life... Haste does not effect procage.... i think he was referring to the fact it had 30 delay and haste = faster and therefore more hits and THEREFORE more chances to proc! that is how haste effects procage... /rant off
RE: weird
# Dec 15 2003 at 8:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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yup, you can be 70% slowed or 130% bard hasted, you will proc about the same number of times over a long period of time. It is based ONLY off your dex, not off your delay in any way (haste affects your effective delay)

I am a cleric and with my proc-happy hammer I can tell that with 130% haste I proc once every 10 swings but with no haste I proc every 3 or 4... about same number of procs per fight.
RE: weird
# Jan 21 2004 at 12:50 AM Rating: Decent
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i dont think its possible to be 130% hasted
RE: weird
# Dec 09 2003 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, he is right. Haste does not affect proc rate.

Many parses I have seen on the warrior message boards show a proc rate of twice per minute regardless of the haste. It appears that procs are related to time, not to number of swings.
Improved damage focus
# Nov 16 2003 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Just won one for my wizard. Much to my amazement, when the weapon procs it activates my Improved Damage 3 item. The proc hit for a max of 374 and even more to my amazement; crit for 688!!! Not bad for a wizard! I can't wait till I put Permafrost on it. Is that the best type 4 item for this? Any suggestiong please?

Brauch
65 Wizard
Procs
# Nov 06 2003 at 5:30 PM Rating: Default
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Procs at lvl one again. putting out 175 at lvl one and max out at 52.


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RE: Procs
# Nov 19 2003 at 5:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Far as I know, proc amounts aren't effected by player level at all. What you saw was probably partial resists or something. Notice the spell itself doesn't even go to 175 at its lower limit.

Unless Sony added new code for procs lately /shrug.
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RE: Procs
# Nov 13 2003 at 7:19 PM Rating: Default
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negative... got one @ 46 and it procs for 320 which is maxed out... so it definately procs for max before 52
RE: Procs
# Dec 13 2003 at 8:26 PM Rating: Good
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Haven't seen it on this particular item, but I have seen other weapon procs increase in damage as I leveled. Looking at the spell data above I assume this thing reaches the max damage/proc at lvl 37, just like the spell would have.

Edited, Sat Dec 13 20:27:04 2003
The nerf isn't so nerfy
# Oct 29 2003 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
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Of course everyone now realizes that the delay of 30 makes this weapon augmentable with the +3 damage augment?

22/30 after augmentation

RE: The nerf isn't so nerfy
# Oct 29 2003 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
Dmg Augments are type 5-6. This can only hold type 4, which are procs. =/
Proc?
# Oct 26 2003 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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What lvl is this procin at after the nerf?
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RE: Proc?
# Oct 27 2003 at 4:49 PM Rating: Default
My level 37 bst has this, and as of yesterday it was proccing for 314 every time.
What lvl?
# Oct 25 2003 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
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What lvl does this bad boy start procing at?
RE: What lvl?
# Dec 05 2003 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I think it starts at level 5 or 6, I know its a great twink item, hence why it going for 10-15k. Be safe)
Awesome weapon
# Oct 20 2003 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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I bought this weapon yesterday (nerfed one) and all I can say is that I'm very happy about it's performance.

On the Xev server these weapons still go for around 17.5K btw (Talking about a big difference in prizes over the EQ servers =)

But even nerfed this is still an awesome weapon, it procs most of the time AT LEAST 2 times a fight for max damage (320) and my (56 Troll BST) melee average hits are between 60 and 100 damage.

I think it's a great dual wielding weapon since the attack rate of dualwielding weapons are independent from each other. So, if the first weapon is a delay 30 weapon, like this one, the weapon in the second hand with a delay of 20 can still give a steady and fast damage output.

This can also be a nice twink weapon for lots of classes (especially dual wielders and casters) since one doesn't have to actually hit the mob to activate the proc.(Like all combat procs)

You won't be sorry for buying this weapon =)
(unsless you're a single wielder maybe =)

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My enchanter is a DoT
# Oct 17 2003 at 10:32 PM Rating: Decent
I slapped this on my enchanter and send him into the fray. Proc's at least once per fight mostly proc's twice, and about every forth mob proc's 3- 4 times. At 320 damage per proc I do more damage in a fight than my DoT's do.

BTW paid 6800 for it on Veeshan.

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Edited, Fri Oct 17 23:28:33 2003
nice
# Oct 12 2003 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default
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I have 2, and i love, process a lot, for 320 and 640, w/ cri, also, i put one in my paly 1, and process, i know they change a bit the iten, but still one the best weapon i saw arond.[Black][/Black]
NERFED
# Oct 12 2003 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default
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I am pretty disgusted with the nerf. Paid 12kpp for this and the next morning it was nerfed and only worth about 8k. No matter, I still use it. At lvl 45 its doing 65 dmg plus procs constantly. Curious though, has anyone scrolled back and seen themselves hit with it?? When it procs it makes my monk look like she is spell casting. Weird. Sure wish it was a secondary though!!
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RE: NERFED
# Oct 29 2003 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Absolutely wish it was Primary AND Secondary.

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RE: NERFED
# Oct 23 2003 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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You always do spellcasting animations whenever you proc.
#Gnormy, Posted: Oct 10 2003 at 11:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Was a good item - now its back to garden variety. Why dont they upgrade planar armor considering the risk - like plane of fear - as opposed to downgraded stuff. Sorry - but I'm taking a HUGE plat loss because of its reduced value and bugs me all to ****.
Nerf
# Oct 10 2003 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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The shown version is the pre-nerf one.
They changed it to Dmg 19 delay 30 with the last patch - it lost a bit of its brilliance imo...
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Nerfed??
# Oct 10 2003 at 5:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Was in DL last night late. Player in our group had this. He was 38 warrior if I recall correctly. Weapon stats looked like above and boy did it proc!!! Want 1 for each of my toons!

Tsin, 46 Druid
Xegony
does this proc still at 1?
# Oct 09 2003 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
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After the nerf today on Oct 9 i was wondering if this weapon still procs at level 1 or if they fixed that. if so please let me know what level it procs at now.
RE: does this proc still at 1?
# Oct 24 2003 at 12:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Still procs at level 1. All they changed was the damage/delay...
Not as bad as i thought it would be
# Oct 09 2003 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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The nerf isnt that bad. only -1 dmg and -0.2 second delay. It could have been worse. as long as the proc is still the same dmg I will still use it.
RE: Not as bad as i thought it would be
# Oct 09 2003 at 2:50 PM Rating: Default
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Actually it's a bit worse, as it's got a type 4 aug slot verses a type 1.
Personally, I'd take the type 1.
RE: Not as bad as i thought it would be
# Oct 22 2003 at 7:31 PM Rating: Default
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All weapons have a Type 4 slot
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change in stats
# Oct 09 2003 at 10:09 AM Rating: Decent
they really like nerfing good items delay has been changed to 30 delay 19 damage.
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RE: change in stats
# Oct 09 2003 at 5:26 PM Rating: Default
are you kidding?......glad i sold mine for what i did
ranger sweet
# Oct 03 2003 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Picked this up on veeshan for about 16k. Put it on my ranger. This is awesome!!! With ranger swiftwind these two rock!!! procs 1000 to 1600 each fight.

nidwen 56 ranger
veeshan
proc
# Sep 27 2003 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
Just to let you guys know.
I was in Field of Bone today (Sept 27) and a very twink shaman was using it and it was proc'n at lvl 3. So i would assume it procs from lvl 1 on up. Was doing around 168 damage every time it fired too.
RE: proc
# Oct 05 2003 at 11:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Confirmed procs at lvl 1, plvling my enchanter with this. I equiped at lvl 1 an yup, booms for 150 i think at 1, and goes up from there. Horrible stats at the lvl but who cares with that proc? Chantie already 25 and still usin it :)
level 10?
# Sep 22 2003 at 8:29 PM Rating: Default
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procs at level 10? i smell nerf coming. heh
Augments
# Sep 22 2003 at 12:05 AM Rating: Default
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Btw, you cant add another proc to the augment slot cause proc augments are type 4, but still a very nice weapon.
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