So somehat related. I am playing an Ogre warrior and they simply have no quest like any of these other race class combos for a good early weapon. Shaman, Trolls... etc all have one. The ogre warrior quest requres me to kill a 24 (?) alligator and a heav MAY drop, its a post 20 quest, I may as well try for the HEHE meat cleaver. Meanwhile pristine and mystic scales are dropping off level 4 lizard men. Yes, they are not common but wtf? The Ogre / Troll shadowknightsge like 3 very good level 20 ish quests. ost of these races and classes all get a pre 20 weapon with stats.