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Cloak of Flames  
 

MAGIC ITEM
Slot: BACK
AC: 10
DEX: +9 AGI: +9 HP: +50
SV FIRE: +15
Haste: +36%
WT: 0.1 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Armor
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:54 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:18850
Submitted By:Sniffledoo
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:adetia [township rebellion]
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2019-06-16 14:21:21
Page Updated:Mon Apr 24th, 2017
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Average Price: 60,000pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Very Rare
Level to Attain: 50

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Drops: This item is found on creatures.

Burning WoodsEmerald JungleNagafen's LairSkyfire MountainsWestern Wastes


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Uploaded November 27th, 2008
Updated November 28th, 2008
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Cloak of Crystalline Waters
# May 08 2006 at 3:49 PM Rating: Default
If for some reason, perhaps head trauma or bad advice, you are about to buy this item in the bazaar, check to see if a Cloak of Crystalline Waters is available.

The CoCW is essentially the same cloak (cold resists instead of fire, mana instead of hit points) and is generally 20k cheaper than the Cloak of Flames.
Cloak of Crystalline Waters
# Sep 26 2007 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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CoF is for True Melee's that DON'T use mana.
Berserker/Rogue/Monk/Warrior.
CoCw = Paladin/Bard/SK/Etc
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Level for Effect
# May 26 2005 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
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quote:

Effect: Haste

Type: Worn
Level for Effect: 35
Haste: 36%

end quote:

What does "Level for Effect: 35" mean? I thought the haste effect for the cloak of flames started at Level: 1. Perhaps the "Level for Effect: 35" data needs to be corrected.
Level for Effect
# Sep 26 2007 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Haste works at level 1.
There is caps to how much haste can be applied to you though.
Level 30 -> 50% Haste.
Level 50 -> 74% Haste.
Level 54 -> 84% Haste.
Level 59 -> 94% Haste.
Level 60 -> 100% Haste.

Cite: http://www.onlinegamecommands.com/everquest/everquesthaste.htm
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RE: Level for Effect
# Jan 16 2006 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Normally, "Level for Effect" means the required level to use the effect.

HOWEVER- In this case, I beleive its the level of the item. "Haste" is a relatively common iten effect, as far as items go. Haste, though, does vary. The "level" of the item is what determines the strength of the Haste. This belt gives Haste as though it were a level 35.
RE: Level for Effect
# Jul 01 2005 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Erm... I think it means you have to be level 35+ in order for the Haste to work.
RE: Level for Effect
# Oct 05 2016 at 2:51 AM Rating: Decent
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SeekUp wrote:
Erm... I think it means you have to be level 35+ in order for the Haste to work.


It scales as there are caps. So you don't have to be 35+ to get the haste, it's capped at iirc 20 and then lifts again at 51 and iirc 60 and may even be more as I only recently returned.

FWIW and for anyone wondering, haste does not stack from items and it does scale accordingly to the cap set for those levels.
Fabled Cloak of Flames
# Mar 17 2005 at 3:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Saw the link of Fabled Cloak of Flames on the first day of the 6th Anniversary.
Had top tier stats such as 45% Haste and 200HP.
Was told the Fabled Severilous in Emerald Jungle drops it.

Dragkila
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P.S. Fabled Cloak of Flames is not listed in here, yet. Along with some other 6th Anniversary Fabled items.

Edited, Thu Mar 17 03:12:33 2005
NBG?
# Nov 11 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Good
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NBG.....one good item drops on a camp or raid....it jsut happens to be an upgrade in the ONE slot a time geared fella hasnt yet upgraded... however a person who cant wear said item could sell it and get a MORE (more than the time eqipped fella)and therefore his/her need is just aS great. I agree with peeps who do NBG with friends and guildies, for the reasons mentioned before,and even sometimes when i am in a pick up group and one of the character's is obviously poorly equipped and does not have the access yet for the better gear.. but i look at that as completely optional and do not look down upon the cleric who loots a melee item to use howver they see fit. The item has cash value and can be used to increase their gear.. Exactly how you define need can take you into many different paths that just are not practical to worry about
RE: NBG?
# Nov 28 2004 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
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Aye, NBG is broken. It definitely encourages people with a little knowledge of what items are in the loot table of any given camp or raid to make sure they pull out their Raw-Hide Shoulderpads for that camp. I know one guy on Xev who NBGed the same exact item on different days that I grouped with him in WoS. Hmm... must have been some kind of need if he needs 2 or more of them.

RE: NBG?
# Dec 13 2004 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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i use NBG in all cases p/u groups guild groups or raids. If you playing a toon there and it is an upgrade for your current equipment.. its yours unless more then 1 then those roll.. If noone needs then all who have not gotten an item yet random and it is given..No seconds untill all get an item.. or you won a random loot no one can use and an upgrade drops for you.. youget unless 2 or more need said item then all roll if you win you give the non wanted item of value to the 1 who was second highest on roll...

98% of items I win cuzz it was not an upgrade for me nor anyone else in group I will give to upgrade a guildie.. no guildie then a friend.then if none need it goes to bazaar but if on my way I see someone saying they WTB said item.. I find what bazaar price is and cut 50%.. not out to rape anyone.. just enuff pp to buy my gate potions and potions for guildies ( us poor melee classes) and to make arrows.. if I do end up with alot of pp in da bank I goes on a present shopping spree and buy missing or needed spells/runes for ma guildies...
Greed
# Oct 29 2004 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Reading all the excuses to justify the greed makes me sick .I refuse to roll EVER it is demening .I would rather go without untill I can either save enough pp to purchase an item, or group with toons who do not loose there selfrespect because its a game. NBG should always be a priority no matter who is in the group.If when in the bazaar I see a toon selling a looted NBG I put them on ignore and do not group with them again.How can one trust a person that. There is no reason for greed ,if one develops there skills and farms items requiered they can make just as much if not more pp , and not deprive someone who will honestly use the upgrade.
Bah
# Mar 19 2004 at 4:35 AM Rating: Default
NBG is the dumbest thing on earth imo.

Everyone has a hand in taking down the mob... everyone has an opportunity to get the loot. Unless you're on a raid, and your guild uses the dkp system or they do arbitrary looting (they say who gets it right off the bat based on seniority or activeness or something).

The only time NBG should ever be considered is on no drop items. Suppose there was a really cool item that I could equip and would look nice with cool particle effects and ****, but serves no real purpose to me. Suppose in this group there was a war who could use the item as well, but its more tailored to his class than mine. Sure, I wouldn't have a problem letting him have it at all, since its no drop.

However, if its droppable, you bet I'm gonna roll for it for my war alt. There's no reason that my opportunities for items should be limited by what character I use to help bring the mob down; the fact I helped bring the mob down entitles me to roll for any droppable item, whether my immediate character can use it or not.

I've only seen NBG people whine and cry about an item, honestly. My SK coulda used that Sword of the Crypt Keeper, but the pally cried about how he needed a good 2hs or something and the group leader said he could have it. So he looted it... then LD'd. Then I found him in the bazaar trying to sell it about 20 mins later. Yeah, none too pleased.

So in short, if its droppable, and you're in my group, better hope /random is good to you.

Edited, Fri Mar 19 04:36:27 2004
RE: Bah
# May 07 2004 at 11:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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I disagree with you, Need Before Greed should always be used, someone with lesser equipment, who would use the item dropped, should automatically be given to them.

Mobius said: "There's no reason that my opportunities for items should be limited by what character I use to help bring the mob down"

Yes there is, the reason is anyone could create any character and say they want it for that new character, if there is another person present who needs it as its better than what they currently possess - their character killed the mob, not your alt, therefor it should be theirs, its common decency.

Mobius said: "So in short, if its droppable, and you're in my group, better hope /random is good to you"

Let that be a reminder to everyone never to group with you. Greedy.

The only time I worry about NBG working is when it comes to Melee's weapons;

melee_01: Oh thats got greater damage, but longer delay, I could use it when a mob has a dS on it
melee_02: No way, I could use that for the stats, my weapons I'm using are faster, but when I need the extra Str I would use that
melee_03: But I don't have a good 1 handed weapon for my duel wielding other arm, instead of this shield.
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RE: Bah
# Sep 08 2004 at 6:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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NBG with total strangers is horrible. The only time I would do NBG is if it was with guildies or really close friends.

Don't you just hate going to a camp Take MS, Middle Sand, the sand camp in between the top and bottom.. O_o in BoT for example. So you get into this group, say there's a bard, cleric, beastlord, warrior, and rogue there with you.

The cleric calls for NBG because they want bracers of course(mm, ft2), warrior agrees, bard too.. The beastlord stands there slobbering viciously after realizing he's the only leather class in group, and the rogue is getting a bit nervous because everyone knows chain doesn't exist!

The group progresses and drops come,
by the end of the group, lucky drops mind you.. The bard war and cleric end up with bracers, beast gets some boots, you, the silky, get a hat, and the rogue is in the corner rocking back and forth wondering why chain is non-existant. Not only the drops though, the bard got some drums and a spec, cleric and beast got a spectral parchment too.

Of course they won these BEFORE their better things dropped but still demanded them anyways.

So basically the war bard cleric and beast made out with a ton of cash, silky got 2k or so and rogue got nothing. The group disbands and you never see these people in your life again, except in the bazaar selling the stuff they demanded :)

Pick up encounters in this game just weren't designed for nbg, the drops aren't balanced enough. That's why I'm only ok with NBG with close friends and guildies, because you can expect to see them again and the trust is there :P

That all being said I played a cleric at a naggy raid and won a CoF, I got harrassed for an hour, I even got tells from other servers, people were calling me a Greedy Sl*ut*y ****** Wh**re Loot Grubbing B**ch. This was a PICK-UP raid and it was said loot would be randomed, I won and it pissed off the meeles that wanted it, but some crossed the line slightly in their anger. (Some people got the idea and were happy for my win, knowing other classes can use the money just as much)

Edited, Wed Sep 8 19:48:57 2004
RE: Bah
# Aug 03 2004 at 4:22 PM Rating: Default
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The simple fact of the matter is everyone in EQ is greedy for new equipment whether it be for an upgrade or pp. That is part of the reason people do raids. Yeah seeing the end game is important to some too, but in order to get there they need the best equipment they can get. There is nothing wrong with wanting new better gear. The way I see it, much as it pains me to say it, /ran is the only fair way to decide who gets an item. The one thing I think maybe should be done is once someone wins one roll, they sit out the next so as to spread the earnings evenly. However done, /ran still seems to be the best method around. It's random for all so it's the luck of the dice.
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RE: Bah
# May 21 2004 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
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Sorry boys and girls but NBG died with Sebilis. Prehaps im just jaded but I used to host nag and vox raids for the public. I did then /random melee only on these things and still found the idiot selling it in bazaar 10 minutes later.

Cry foul all you want but the truth is for every 1 person who will actually use it for there main there are 20 who will use it for an alt/sell it for pp. If at any point someone tries to pull NBG on me I A) boot there greedy bum from my group or B) leave the group.

/random for all on all dropable loot is the only way to go from a 10 pp item to a 500k item. The sooner you get over you idea of a "benevalent" NBG system that noone will ever abuse the happier you will be.
RE: Bah
# Apr 12 2004 at 3:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Thats pretty sad that you are so greedy to take things that you wont use or will just throw on an alt that someone would use on their main. This is a really nice cloak. I feal sad for your guild
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Whiners
# Feb 07 2004 at 11:20 PM Rating: Good
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Well All I know is that when you go into a raid or group with the intent of getting a specific drop then absolutely, the person that needs it should get it.

But I dont agree with letting people have something just cause your char cant equip it. We all have Alts that can use these items. Part of this game is also based on making PP, and therefore if you have a hand in bringing down a mob that drops a valuable item, you are entitled to it as much as the next guy. IF ITS NO-DROP then its a different story.

Not everyone is that greedy
# Feb 04 2004 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't know what servers you guys play on, but on Lanys I've seen people blacklisted from raids and/or publicly ********** on the Lanys boards for selling items won on NBG rolls. NBG is a much fairer system for people that need gear. As a cleric, if an item drops that I can use and a rogue cannot, I expect that rogue not to roll for the item. And vise versa. I actually bowed out of a NBG roll on a part of the cleric epic in chardok because I wasn't as far into the quest as other people in the roll, hence I did not NEED the item as much as they did. It seems to me that the people in favor of FFA are the true whiners here. All I hear from their camp is "I want plat...boohoo, I'm broke." If you're broke go farm some plat, there are plenty of places to do it that are tailor made for making lots of money relatively fast. Examples...RM, CC, HHK(bards and nobles), and ohers if you look for them. If you can't solo, grab a buddy and duo. I duo with a druid in CC and make over 2kpp per night each.

But leave the raids alone, people don't raid for money, they raid for better gear and quest items. And as long as there are a few honorable people leading raids like Quebeldorf and Beachcom, both of whom organize raids for people that NEED things, we will see NBG live on. But introducing FFA into a raid is just stupid. It takes at least 12 people to kill Naggy, and on average 8 of those people are gonna walk away with nothing but rez effects and an empty wallet. If it's money you're after go farm, it's easier, faster, and a lot less prone to end in a 1 hour buffing period, 15 minute fight, and 3 hour loot squabble.

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54th season Cleric of Tunare
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Anyone who loots then sells a red dragon scale in bazaar is scum, that part of not one, but 2 classes epics. In a game where your attitude can drastically drop the number of people who want to group/raid with you, being a selfish, greedy prick is a fast road to spending your days soloing somewhere 10-20 levels below you because no one will let you into their raids. Seriously, if by some chance there are no un-epicced warriors or bards in your raid, and no one has an un-epicced warrior or bard alt over 50, then let the raid leader loot it and give it to a warrior or bard in need. Epic drops should never be subject to greed.
FuQ Stop WHINING
# Jan 30 2004 at 6:37 AM Rating: Default
Yall whine about more crap than the Government.. ITS A GAME !!!! Take a min a realize,how many of u whiners that are whining about wrongfull looting and rolling, have indeed wrongfully rolled or even looted somthing in your time of playing. ( SURVIVAL OF THE FITEST ) Sad but true. We cant make the rules on EQ. u can only go by whats right in ur mind. If not rolling on somthing u can use is ur way of making ur self better in the game.. then so b it! But this game is about only a hand-full of task.. Questing is the main one, Fighting and looting..BUYING AND SELLING .. Most people Raid and camp mobs for the loot, and not always for that char they camping the mob with.. But regardless if i go on a raid TIME after TIME and dont get any thing cuz its calss specific and somthing drops that ALL/ALL ... U CAN BET YOUR SWET *** IM ROLLING ON IT !!


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quick point
# Jan 30 2004 at 10:15 AM Rating: Default
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Notice price, wether or not the individule needs the item they most likely need something else which can be purchased for 72k. I am a caster with little need for haste, but i could definitly use the 72k towards a nice flowing thought item. I think NBG is a load, all it does is weight the role in favor of those who claim they need it, then you see half of them in baz selling it later.

Edited, Fri Jan 30 10:21:05 2004
FFA Explained
# Dec 14 2003 at 8:13 AM Rating: Good
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It seems to me there are two basic, workable pickup group/raid looting systems: NBG (Need Before Greed) and FFA (Free For All). Most others are hybrids based on one of these two with a few modifcations (usually some form of implied reservation system). So what are the two basic systems?

Need Before Greed: This does not mean that anyone who could use the item gets to roll on it. It means that only the current characters in the raid who will use the item get to roll on it.

Free For All: This is the conetentious one, but mostly because almost no one gets what a pure FFA system really is, so I will define and explain it here: Anyone gets to roll on anything of value to them, whether that value be as equipment upgrade, spell upgrade, potential platinum, quest item, etc., period. (Note that NO DROP items are by definition never pure FFA, since they have no value other than use, i.e. they cannot be sold, traded, etc. Therefore, the only reason to allow NO DROP items to go to anyone other than to someone who can use them--be they for a quest, equipment upgrade, whatever--is if you want to be a complete and total selfish idiot who enjoys making EQ less fun for others. Smiley: frown )

Please notice something important in the FFA definition. The only exception to the FFA rule are NO DROP items. Not items marked NEC, WIZ, CLR, DRU, MNK, WAR, PAL, BRD or whatever. NO DROP items, and only NO DROP items are the exception. If an item can be traded or sold, by FFA definition, everyone should have a chance to roll on it.

So, yes, in a pick-up Naggy FFA raid, everyone should get to roll on the Cloak of Flames. But everyone should also get to roll on anything else that drops and can be traded or sold.

So to the poster who said that class-specific items should not be part of FFA, they are not really playing quite fair either. In an FFA loot system, class-specific items should only be restricted to the classes that can use them if they are NO DROP; otherwise, the basic principle of FFA (everyone gets a chance to loot anything of value) demands everyone get to roll on those items, too. Moreover, saying that the 500pp spells don't matter and should be excluded from FFA is disingenuous. In pure FFA, if it can be sold or traded (whether for 50Kpp or 5pp), anyone who wishes can roll on it, since by defintion it has value to everyone, even it is only 10pp from a vendor. This is how pure FFA works. If you don't like it, pick a different looting system.

I've avoided writing this for some time since its just an ugly, messy topic, but I am also tired of people not getting what FFA really means or how it should really work so that it actually can be as fair as possible to everyone. Most people are actually using a hybrid FFA/partial reservation system when they talk about restricting tradeable class-specific items to only the classes that can use them, since they have just removed a potentially perfectly good source of cash for the classes that wouldn't use it but could trade it from the loot pool. I'm not saying that's not a good system, but its important to understand that means you're already out of a pure FFA system.

Because, you see, the Haste is what makes the Cloak of Flames a 60K+ item, rather than a 2K- one. But the Haste also makes it a melee/hybrid item. So in terms of using this as equipment, this cloak is to a caster about as useful as the Dead Men Floating spell is to a non-necro: a good source of platinum and nothing more. The ALL/ALL tag is just a dodge, really. Yes, the FR and other stats are nice, but how many casters would keep the Cloak of Flames rather than sell it for a cloak with FR and INT/WIS and Mana, and 55K or more left over? That's what I thought.

So, yes, in an FFA group or raid things the Cloak of Flames should be randomed amongst everyone, but so should every other NO DROP item, including spell scrolls, Flowing Thought items, Focus Effect items, etc.

And, if you are being truly consistent and fair, you should use those same policies--FFA, NBG, or some hybrid--in all pickup groups and raids, be you warrior or necromancer, be it the Cloak of Flames or Scroll: Dead Men Floating on the line. After all, since anyone can sell either to get what they need, isn't it a little greedy to argue that the Cloak of Flames is FFA and should go to anyone who can roll a good die, but Dead Men should only be given a shot by the necromancers present? Think about it, at least.

Again, just so I can ignore some posts in good conscience, this applies to pure FFA loot rules only. It was also intended to point out that in practice very few people probably really use pure FFA rules. But that's fine. Use whatever rules work for you, as long as they are clear from the start so people know what they are agreeing to. But do keep in mind some loot rules are fairer than others.

Also, I used Dead Men Floating as an example, so don't waste your time correcting me about it if I got something wrong with it. I only have some vague idea its hard to get and very rare, and therefore worth a few pp to most necros, so I used it to make a point.

And for those wondering, my mains are a 52 monk and a 51 wizard, so I can see both sides of this. I do not have a melee or caster bias, as I like playing both. I really just wanted to write about this to make it clearer in my head, and maybe clearer for a few other people, so I did.

Also for those wondering, I almost always use NBG in groups, even pickup groups, and tend to much prefer it. One exception is if it clearly being randomed to be sold, in which case I will probably random as well. I admit I have never led a pickup raid, so I am not sure what I would prefer for that, but I could see how FFA might be the best approach, as it gives everyone a reason for attending, since unlike a guild raid, there is no incentive to go to help your friends.

Finally, remember (despite the length of this post) that in the end it's just a game, and the important thing isn't whether you had the most toys, but whether you had the most fun getting them. Smiley: grin

Gaealen


Edited, Sun Dec 14 08:21:48 2003
#Sortas, Posted: Nov 20 2003 at 12:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why is it the casters who are always on the defensive?
RE: See where it says ALL/ALL?
# Nov 24 2003 at 10:25 PM Rating: Default
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OK...I understand that you may have participated in killing the same mob. But if this was an upgrade item to somebody, why wouldnt you want it to go to them? Or somebody else who actually NEEDS it instead of somebody who is just going to sell it. I dont care if its a pick up raid or not, items should be distributed by needs and not wants.
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RE: See where it says ALL/ALL?
# Jan 08 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
So this drops on a raid and I (warrior) should have more of a claim to it simply because I would A) use it and b)it is an upgrade? That's what you are saying right?

Of course, my Shaman wife is also on the raid and she should not be allowed to roll on it because even though it says All/All, she wouldn't get any real use out of it. Of course she COULD trade it or sell it and get enough money for Torpor and Malo, 2 spells you surely want a shaman in your party to have. And of course, ones which do not recoup any money like KEI.

Personally I believe in both systems. If you are going on NBG, need must be defined and laid out ahead of time. If you are going FFA then it doesn't matter unless it is no drop.

It irks me when loot is an issue. I will leave research and parchements and 15INT Eyepatches alone if the casters don't roll on items I could use but if you are going to roll on stuff I want, I am going to do the same back at ya. Heck, I have been in Seb and lost the roll on Cobalt Arms TWICE in the same group even though I was the only Warrior:-)

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RE: See where it says ALL/ALL?
# Nov 20 2003 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
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j/w but have you ever heard of NBG?

Also, if this item were changed to no drop, which classes do you think it would go to? Lets think about that for a sec...
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#Sortas, Posted: Nov 22 2003 at 6:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If it was No Drop then of course casters wouldn't have use for it. You pointed out the obvious. have a cookie.
RE: See where it says ALL/ALL?
# Dec 05 2003 at 10:38 AM Rating: Default
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Casters need haste to do more strikes in combat right?

Wrong.

Casters SHOULD be in the back medding for that next spell. If someone (which to me would be a melee or hybrid type) could USE that item more than you, then it should go to them. As you stated, NBG rules should always apply. If its just a greed roll then of course anyone should have a chance for it.

I apply rules no differently in my own guild raid to an open raid from various guilds on one area. Why SHOULD it be different? I see no reason to penalize people for not being in the same guild as you. Thats what it would be too.

We all want better items. We all have friends/alts/bazaar money that would eq life easier. So to imply that no one is selfish on eq is not realistic. There are degrees of selfishness though and it can be controlled with a little effort.

Edited, Fri Dec 5 10:42:50 2003
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Drops
# Nov 12 2003 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
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anyone that says 2 cofs cant drop doesnt know very much...ive done naggy and seen 3 CoF drop...was like 7th raid but anything like that can happen its just how the game generates the loot
Naggy!
# Oct 08 2003 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
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ok i was just looking at a few posts and i'm sorry to say this but for those of you who don't believe this it's soooooooooooo true. i have gone on many naggy raids and not once but twice yes twice i have seen 2x CoF drop of course i didnt win outta the 7 or 8 CoF's that dropped in all those raids though hehe......Wootana LvL 52 Uber Monk on Drinal server!
#Slifer, Posted: Nov 21 2003 at 7:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sorry but ur far from uber and the worst puller I have ever met in my life. Led raid, had you pull, all of sudden, Naggy kills u in 2 secs.. have no clue how to pull Naggy. /sigh .. then u get madd when the monk who knows how to pull gets the 100% WR Bag
#bobster, Posted: Sep 18 2003 at 9:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok dis cloak is sweet but personaly its to much of a hassel to get it and to kill him u have to be under 51, and ull need 1 or 2 groups so realy i think its to much assel to do this!!!!! hey if u want more info, cheats, advice and trades go to this website
COF X2
# Aug 22 2003 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
In my second trip against Naggy, 2 COF dropped- Karana server, three days ago.
How often from Naggy?
# Jun 16 2003 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
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If this was asked and answered before, sorry... hard to find any useful info among all the spam.

Anyway, do any of you veteran Nagafen hunters have an idea of how frequently this item drops from him? 20%? 50%? I want one for my monk, but I'm too cheap to drop 60k on an alt, and I want to get one the old-fashioned way.
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RE: How often from Naggy?
# Aug 07 2003 at 8:37 AM Rating: Default
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the cloak, along with practically every other multiple drop mob holder, is random. it has dry spells ive been on 15 naggy raids and seen about 5 cloaks a lot of times he drops 2 druid staffs, a diamond the gold dagger and sometimes a prayer. but other times he can drop the CoF 2 or 3 times in one slaying. Even tho this is an "old school haste item" there are much better in more convenient slots, Cloak of Greater Pernicity sure is nice to have in cloak slot and have gauntlets of dragon slaying or something along the lines of that. But along with the fungi tunic for twinking. if ya wanna drop around 100k to get a melee, hybrid, or even some caster classes from lvl 1 to lvl 50 in a few days then go for it. u can even stick with the item, but its easier to focus on stats and just pay for PL heh..
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RE: How often from Naggy?
# Jun 22 2003 at 10:22 AM Rating: Default
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Well I've killed Naggy about 4 times and led one of those successful raids. I have never ever seen this drop. I think the drop rate is maybe 5%. Its uber rare.

Remember that this item has been in EQ since day one and its still very rare. And its not no drop. That should answer your question.
RE: How often from Naggy?
# Jun 26 2003 at 5:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're not going to believe this then, but in an open raid led by myself earlier today on VS, the wurm dropped not one, but two of these things =) Went to the two main tanks on the roll appropriately enough...perhaps they have upped the drop rate?
RE: How often from Naggy?
# Aug 10 2003 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default
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You're right, I don't believe you. In fact, while I certainly can't disprove you, your raid would probablly be the only one in all of EQ history ever to have had that (e.g. x2 CoF drop at the same time) happen.
Having researched the item somewhat extensively -as well as any mobs known to drop it- I have never, ever heard anything like that happening.
Which is not to say it isn't possilble, but it's just so far beyond any resonable possibility that it's kinda ridiculous.
Flame me if you must, hate me for being contrary and kill my posting karma if that's what you're into, but since I like my information accurate, and I trust this site (and it's users) to post honest, unadulterated info, I call ******************** on you Orientis.
Okay, back to the trenches...
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RE: How often from Naggy?
# Nov 17 2003 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
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Gummy,

I have led about 40 of each of the Naggy/Vox raids, and currently have a few chars that I keep at 52 JUST for this. I've had as many as 3 CoF's drop on me at one time from Naggy. And the bummer thing is that I have yet still to win one.. Just some dumb luck.. :(

My luck with Vox dropping more than one RBB hasn't happened yet...but I'm hopeful. Either way.. It happens. I think Shadmar and his post said it best.. :)

Good luck to you all!

edit: spell checking

Edited, Mon Nov 17 18:56:17 2003
RE: How often from Naggy?
# Sep 18 2003 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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People that think they know everything usually show that they know nothing
RE: How often from Naggy?
# Aug 20 2003 at 6:27 PM Rating: Decent
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It certainly does happen. I won a CoF about a year ago in in a raid in which two dropped. Ironically, the guy who had been leading the open naggy/vox raids for months announced that he would take the cloak if one dropped as his payment for his efforts. He wasn't able to muster the forces and someone else lead the raid as FFA instead of the usual NBG. So he passed up his best chance at one while trying to secure it.

Just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just like the poster above saying that since it didn't drop in 4 kills the drop rate must be 5%. Kind of hard to draw that conclusion until you've seen a hundred of them.
#adamrussell, Posted: May 03 2003 at 9:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Either way is fine, but just make sure to decide in advance and let everyone know in advance. You might have problems finding some classes on an open raid though if your not offering them any incentive besides the chance to die and the certainty to waste A LOT of time.
COF from Ixiblat?
# Apr 17 2003 at 5:42 AM Rating: Default
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CoF from Ixiblat in Burning woods? The Ixiblat needed for the cleric epic (again...) drop COF too? Killed him lots of times but I have never seen the COF drop off him as loot. Always the wiz/mage trash loot though and that silly stick that clerics get all excited about.
RE: COF from Ixiblat?
# May 15 2003 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah Ixiblat drops it too but it's a rare drop of course. You know how streaky the treasure tables can be...can get 5 in a row and not one in 100, but yes he does drop it =)
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RE: COF from Ixiblat?
# Apr 18 2003 at 9:05 AM Rating: Default
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Dropped from Ixiblat Apr 17 on TP server.

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#Kiv, Posted: Mar 18 2003 at 11:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Which of the mobs it drops from is the easiest to kill and which is most likely to drop it?
RE: Availability
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Ragefire by far. Shaman solo-able, and can be done with one 60+ group.
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wow..........
# Mar 13 2003 at 5:29 AM Rating: Default
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wow, people are sure flamed bout the subject of looting. BTW im totally into the "need before greed" loot code. My necromancer is in Fires of Heaven and after seeing an Olbus Death Shroud go to a warrior, and then next raid, see Zlandicar (did i spell that right?) Heart go to a ranger, yes i think NBG is pretty much the way looting sould go. Like the other day we were playing around in Maiden's Eye (a wimp zone for FoH) and Xi Xuis droped a "belt of Defense" paladin only and no drop at that. Well a druid in our group wanted to loot it. That druid should be ***** slaped and beat with a shovel >=). He can never see it and, at most, destroy it! So yes, i think "need before Greed" is the right way to go =D! Also, about the subject of items that you wanna sell for diniro (some other language for money) i think that is just greedy. Like in the many (50+) posts swirling around the subject or "The Cloak of Flames", selling it is complete ludacris (did i spell that right? i have a hard time spelling =)! It could easily go to use of a hefty warrior, or a noble paladin, and it would be free! And about that post were the guy wanted to get the spell for his friend, that guy is just sitting on his ***, doing nothing, and what are we? his lackeys?? i think not. If you want the spell, earn it! Ok im sorry if i was ******** too much, thats just my thoughts, and i wanted to get that out. =)
#Dessimus, Posted: Sep 16 2003 at 10:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yeah you are ******** too much... stfu and play the game dumbass... i dont do that need before greed *********** unless it's no drop, im rolling on it... period... i spent the same amount of time and risked my life just as much as anyone else in the group/raid and should be entitled to roll... you may call it greedy but i think it's greedy for you to say i cant roll... **** off
RE: wow..........
# Jul 07 2003 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Need before greed.... How many of us have been on a raid when that term is invoked only to see the item for sale by that character later on in the evening? In a perfect world the NBG motto would be perfect but the world of EQ is far from perfect. The best advice I can offer would be to know the ground rules going in. Don't participate in a raid if the Raid Leader says that "so and so drop is going to whoever" unless you are ok with it. I agree it is frustrating to be in a group and an item drops that you can and will use and it goes to some other guy for alt via a roll. However, that is part of the game and we all deal with it. Best thing to do is get a set of friends and make that your usual group. I group with a cleric, shaman, warrior, enchanter, monk and me (ranger). When items drop in our group we know where they are going.
#Dearborn, Posted: Mar 13 2003 at 11:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) *takes a deep breath*
RE: wow..........
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Britney (formerly)of FoH used to have the surname Spears and was played by a man so I guess that day came pretty fast huh?
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RE: wow..........
# Mar 18 2003 at 8:51 PM Rating: Default
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Wow.......
does anyone like you?
everytime I see a post that insults someone else,
chances are it's you

get a life
NBG in Sol B
# Mar 08 2003 at 9:37 PM Rating: Default
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Just a quick point- I recently participated on a Naggy raid where NBG was argued. Ya gotta clear the FG's on your way to Naggy and every NaGGY raid Ive been on, we've had two nice caster items drop from named FG's. I think casters are compensated, and I will fully support NBG. If a caster wants an item upgrade so badly...then attend a raid and roll on the item. Id get ticked to have a CoF go to a chanter.
#quasar, Posted: Mar 01 2003 at 6:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) for great deals on a fungi and many more items go visit my auctions at http://www.cannotlinkto/search/search_results.cfm?search_type=seller_search&search_text=1035054026&search_name=Search+by+Seller&auction_mode=0 it's all done through PlayerAuctions so no fear of scams! bid with confidence
Haste
# Feb 24 2003 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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This website shows all items with haste and what their ercents are. Enjoy the reading.

http://pub14.ezboard.com/fthesteelwarriorthebunker.showMessage?topicID=1757.topic

Odd.....
# Feb 01 2003 at 10:23 PM Rating: Default
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Can anyone clear this up for me? Cloak of FLAMES right? I mean that would conotate fire, correct? Then why in Tunare's name does the green dragon in emerald jungle have this on his loot table?? Just very odd.... would be like Naggy dropping the Cloak of Crystalline Waters. Dont belong there.
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I am now dumber having read this post
# Dec 17 2002 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I am now dumber having read all these post. From what Maybe all melee items should be rolled on by casters only, And all caster items should be roll on my melee only. That way the jerkasses can have there bazaar play time instead of putting the items where they should be in the first place..
nah that would be a stupid idea maybe this item should be given to peoples pets so they can hit faster yeah thats it =)

Ok this item has a 36% haste effect the fastest droppable haste in the game at the time. The mobs it drops off are listed at the top of the page and take a decent size force to attempt. A very good item for anyone lucky enough to have.
RE: I am now dumber having read this post
# Jun 03 2003 at 7:43 PM Rating: Default
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(Custom) Cowl of Mortality is 41%, head slot
RE: I am now dumber having read this post
# Aug 19 2003 at 11:54 AM Rating: Good
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Cowl of mortality, and custom cowl of mortality, are both 36% haste.
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RE: I am now dumber having read this post
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Unfortunately we have plenty of children (and losers probably living in their mom's basement) running around EQ so any attempts at logic, common sense, or reason with them is like a poking a stick at a rotting dead corpse.
RE: I am now dumber having read this post
# Jan 02 2003 at 7:29 PM Rating: Default
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Actually the fastest item haste in game is 41%.
RE: I am now dumber having read this post
# Jan 12 2003 at 3:50 PM Rating: Default
read again, he said droppable
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RE: I am now dumber having read this post
# Jan 27 2003 at 12:22 PM Rating: Default
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Isn't the Velium Swiftblade 41%?
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RE: I am now dumber having read this post
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Nope. 36% haste.
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~double posted by mistake~

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RE: I am now dumber having read this post
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RE: I am now dumber having read this post
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Lol Yea your right there is a 51% haste item. Is a unique one of a kind that dropped in a several day long GM event on Stormhammer. So for all "practical" purposes the highest obtainable haste item is 41%.

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