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Defenders Lightblade  
 

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM PLACEABLE
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 34
DMG: 22 Dmg Bonus: 25
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
DEX: +8 HP: +45 ENDUR: +30
SV DISEASE: +10 SV POISON: +10
Recommended level of 56.
WT: 1.8 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR RNG BRD ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:1H Slashing
Stackable:No
Tribute:360
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Updated By:Jerrik-Vox
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Planes of Power Required: Yes


Average Price: No Data Pricing Data...
Rarity: Very Rare
Level to Attain: 60

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more common while HoH is hotzone
# Dec 21 2007 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Just as has happened in other zones, now that HoH is a hotzone lots of people are spending lots of time there, so many formerly rare drops are showing up in large numbers in the Bazaar, and prices have plummeted. When I looked just now there were 12 up for sale, half of those for under 100pp. I picked up the cheapest at 5pp to toss into my tribute pile: 360 tribute for 5pp is a ratio I'm happy to pay!
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expensive
# Aug 02 2005 at 10:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Its funny to say u bought this for 20pp or mac goes from 300-900
The Real Value
# Jul 28 2004 at 2:19 PM Rating: Excellent
For ppl who use the tribute masters:
1pp = 1 tribute pt
Defenders Lightblade = 380 tribute pts
Purchase in bazaar for 50p (seventh hammer)
50p = 380 tribute pts
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Guardian
# May 13 2004 at 6:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I solo 5-6 of the entrance guardians, have killed over 100. Today I got a nice surprise! This dropped, while before was maybe 1 in 20 gave orb of marr or chunk of metal.

Nice cash item.
primary or secondary
# May 11 2004 at 2:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Edited, Wed Sep 29 15:32:53 2004
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RE: primary or secondary
# May 12 2004 at 8:36 AM Rating: Default
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Uhhhhhh... at 30 this weapon is 12/34. Sucks.
Good for a 40 pally?
# Apr 23 2004 at 12:26 PM Rating: Default
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As the title asks, is this a decent 1hs for a 40 pally? Better than Shaded Blade at least?
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RE: Good for a 40 pally?
# Apr 06 2005 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
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pallies are not able to wield this weapon for reasons Sony prolly cannot explain themselves
#Unkempt, Posted: Apr 23 2004 at 12:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) At 40 this weapon is 16/34. SUxor for joo twink.
Wow I love the deal I got
# Apr 04 2004 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
My 17 Ranger just got this sword and it's sweet. But not as sweet as the price. Payed 25pp for it on TP server
Level Restrictions
# Mar 15 2004 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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It appears that the level restrictions on weapon damage has been fixed. Damage output now appears to be consistent with the level adjusted damage values. I do not believe there was mention of it in any of the patch messages.
So far, not limiting by lvl
# Mar 08 2004 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Hitting 47-52 at level 35 - seems they're not honoring the EQ stat limits - get one now before that all changes!
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Cheap on Luclin
# Jan 02 2004 at 4:44 PM Rating: Default
On Luclin, I usually see at least two or three of these swords for sale. Sometimes they range greatly in price, but on average, they run about 300p. Is this sword fairly common, or do people just not want to buy it?
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RE: Cheap on Luclin
# Jan 07 2004 at 7:03 PM Rating: Default
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It seems to be plenty common, and the recommended level of 56 really hurts it. Most people who'd use it have better than what this caps out by the time they're 56.

Much much better mid level item... That recommended level really kills the usefulness of this (could be) great sword.
RE: Cheap on Luclin
# Jan 08 2004 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, on recommended level weapons, the code seems to be broken on the damage aspect of them. So even though it says you don't have full damage, you actually seem to. I know my mid 40's ranger can slash in the 100's with this weapon with max STR.
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RE: Cheap on Luclin
# Feb 05 2004 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
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It's worth mentioning that the 'red damage' code bug could be fixed at any time.

So if you're counting on full damage from a weapon you're well below the recommended level of, you could log on some time to find a major loss in your damage output.

I'd sure hate to be level 30 trusting this to give me '22' damage and suddenly find it delivering about 11-12 one day.

Edited, Thu Feb 5 13:50:00 2004
RE: Cheap on Luclin
# Feb 05 2004 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Wish they would fix it, the number of bad-at their-class high levels is increasing fast enough, without these cheap PL weapons being available.

Its bad enough to see a level 20 running around with a centi LS, soloing mobs that are supposed to take a group, without them having weapons with a ratio like this one.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining about the high levels with twinks, as much as the true newbs, on their first character, running around with gear like this, levelling up to 50 in 3 days, and then having no clue how to play their character, once their gear is no longer overpowering.
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damm
# Dec 07 2003 at 1:01 PM Rating: Default
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i dont knwo if prices raised or not but on drinal 12/07/03 its going for 500-1k gonna grab the cheepest on if it really does hit in its 50's for a lvl 30... since i have a 34 bard
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Woot
# Nov 22 2003 at 7:05 AM Rating: Default
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Picked up this, the Wakizashi of the Frozen Skies and a Compund Steelshaft Bow for 500pp on Tunare.
Some guy was selling the three off cause he was toasting his account.
Methinks I got a good deal.
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this sword
# Nov 16 2003 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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I have seen people in there 10s-30s using this weapon and it is landing for a lot more damage than it should be. The fact that it is going cheap is even more surprising. If you had a ranger or another class that can use this, I would pick it up and give it a try. Was seeing 30s in damage in the 10s (levels) and 40s-50s in the 20s-30s. Very scary.
RE: this sword
# Jan 08 2004 at 7:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I read these posts and decided to try one out. I've been hitting for up to about 80, although normally in the high 60's, with this in my primary. This is for a lv 33 warrior with a str of 192. It's not too bad because that's about 10 or 12 points less than the max I've been doing with a 29 damage, slower 2-hander. Supposedly this is giving me 13 damage at my level but it's hitting for about twice as much as the 12 damage sword I had been using.
D Lightblade
# Nov 16 2003 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
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DAMMIT, pressed the wrong button Lol, anyways, i bought my lightblade in bazaar for 65pp, and the prices were unusually low, the price on this blade and Decreased INSANELY, my bro bought his for about 650pp, just wanted to let everyone know not to buy them until theyre under 100pp, (people get impatient to sell stuff, so they go really low! ive seen silver chitin handwraps go for 700pp!!!!)
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D Lightblade
# Nov 16 2003 at 3:58 AM Rating: Good
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I got it today =)
# Oct 25 2003 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Bought it today in bazaar on Saryrn for a mere 70pp =)
cheap
# Oct 06 2003 at 8:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Just bought this on 10/3/03 for 475 PP on Tribunal in bazaar.
Great weapon.

Picked up a lammy on 10/5/03 for 1300 PP on the same server in th bazaar.

my new ranger offhand
# Aug 15 2003 at 3:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Just got one of these for 200pp on sol ro, with a wurmslayer as my primary, I'm really looking forward to jaggedpine forest. Now to get a haste item...
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RE: my new ranger offhand
# Sep 17 2003 at 10:47 PM Rating: Default
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If you're on Kane Bayle ask for SoaringCondor - ill sell you a Swiftclaw Sash for a mere 2500pp ;)
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RE: my new ranger offhand
# Oct 07 2003 at 4:12 PM Rating: Default
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Copy and pasted: "on sol ro"
RE: my new ranger offhand
# Aug 20 2003 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Bought on Tarew Marr last night for 100 plat. I can't imagine why a weapon of this caliber has dropped so drastically but there were about 10 for sale and none of them over 1k. Sad when the Polished Granite Tomahawk cost more than a weapon that falls in HoH.
BAHH
# Jul 22 2003 at 3:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow thes things have dropped in price and rarity.. On bristlebroken there are usually 20 of these in bazaar at once and the cheapest is usually around 300pp i dont know whats going on but i like it
#Xaeweas, Posted: Jun 24 2003 at 7:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I got this for my Rogue (lvl 37) just yesterday its pritty nice rogue slashes for 50-60dmg even though its 15 dmg for him at this lvl.
Paladin
# Jun 20 2003 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent
Would this be a good weapon for a paladin who currently has Venomous Axe and Ghoulbane? I paid 1k for it.
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RE: Paladin
# Nov 22 2003 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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Not really man, first, paladins can't use this weapon. Second, if I were playing a paladin he would be wielding a 2hs/b few shields can come close to making up for the damage lost to single wielding a one handed weapon.
RE: Paladin
# Nov 22 2003 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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Well, the veno axe isn't a very good Paladin weapon either. Most paladin 1h weapons, will have ratios of close to one.

The other posts are correct that paladins should usually use a 2h weapon. However, for those occasions when you need to bash (prior to getting 2hbash aa) a good 1h and shield combo is nice. Plus, if the pally is tanking, the extra stats off a shield can make a difference.

The mace of the fallen crusader is a nice paladin 1hb. The ratio is a LOT better than this. This is meant to be an offhand weapon for dual wield classes, particularly rangers and rogues.
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RE: Paladin
# Nov 13 2003 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, (One) it ain't for Paladins and (two) how could u waste 1k on an item and not even check if its for the right class.

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RE: Paladin
# Jul 16 2003 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, considering a paladin can't use it.......
whats better??
# Jun 15 2003 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
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My friend thinks that the Centi Longswords are AMAZING....would this be better in the offhand? and what would be a good primary weapon for a 41 warrior??


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RE: whats better??
# Jun 15 2003 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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After a while i was thinking about getting a lammy for primary and the defenders lightblade in secondary ? This good or no?


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RE: whats better??
# Sep 15 2003 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
I currently use the defender's/lamentation combo. However i have to agree with the post below. At 41 the defenders lightblade will have too many level penalties on it. I would bank it for now and use it at level 50 or so when it is a lot closer to the recommended level. i also recommend getting a venemous axe. I used a venemous axe/ fluxbladed axe combo when i solo'd up to about level 50 when i found a defenders in the bazaar on stormhammer for 50pp. At higher levels most people will have at least 22% permanent haste. on them and will be grouping with chanters or other haste casters. this sword does mad damage.
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RE: whats better??
# Jun 15 2003 at 7:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Centi Longswords are OK weapons. However, they aren't really warrior weapons. Warriors primary concern is keeping aggro on them. THis is accomplished by having FAST weapons, and procs.

My personal experience has been that a Venomous Axe of the Velium brood significantly outtaunts a Centi LS in Offhand.

I used a lammy in primary until I got to level 40, then went with frostbringer primary, veno axe secondary. This combo outaunted anything I had tried up to that point.

While the defender's lightblade does good damage, its kind of slow for aggro purposes. Plus, at lvl 40 or 41, the ratio is significantly worse, due to the recommended level of 56.

Go to the steel warriors website for extensive information on weapon choices, procs and the like.

But in short, leave the centi AND the defender's lightblade to the rangers, and get a fast weapon with a proc.

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RE: whats better??
# Jun 16 2003 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey I was wondering how much u payed for those weapons? The frostbringer and the Venomous Axe of the Velium brood. thanks
RE: whats better??
# Jul 08 2003 at 12:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Veno axe is about 500, and frostbringer is about 4k, on rodcet nife.
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whats better??
# Jun 15 2003 at 6:37 PM Rating: Default
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My friend thinks that the Centi Longswords are AMAZING....would this be better in the offhand? and what would be a godo primary weapon for a 41 warrior??


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/drool
# May 18 2003 at 10:33 PM Rating: Default
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Got this bad boy from a friend today on Torvonnilous server.. It was my B-Day present =) AND I LOVE IT!

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price on tunare
# May 06 2003 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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this bad boy is real cheap on tunare bazaar,
was around 1.5k to 2k a couple months ago,
but now it's down to 700pp!!
unbelievable!!
price
# Apr 25 2003 at 12:24 PM Rating: Default
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price is a bit off they go for 3-5k on 7th now
What is the graphic?
# Mar 17 2003 at 4:19 AM Rating: Default
What does it look like when equipped?
RE: What is the graphic?
# Apr 09 2003 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I like the graphic for this sword alot. The blade is silver and wide towards the hilt, tapering to a narrow wedge at the tip. The hilt is a pale gold color with a dark grip, and the pommel is a gold sphere.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other blades in the game with this graphic?
#Jizin the Charming, Posted: Apr 07 2003 at 4:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) it looks like the picture when equiped and a cross down by the handle
Bye Bye Centi
# Mar 02 2003 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Just got one for 4900 on Terris-Thule.Average price I've seen at this time is between 5 and 6k.I use a Frostbringer(frosty) in primary,and upgraded my Centi LS with the DLB in offhand.At lvl 48 I notice a nice dmg increase,which is good because I like to solo.It would be even sweeter if it had an effect on it,but as is,it's agreat wep. 8)

Edited, Sun Mar 2 17:03:27 2003
RE: Bye Bye Centi
# Jun 10 2003 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
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Sell it, buy yourself a venomous axe of the velium brood, and take the cash left over and upgrade your armor and other gear. Start with your rings. Get velium fire wedding rings, and scrap those str/agi rings. The replace that neck item, and your cloak.

As someone who's main is a cleric, it always hurts when I see a meatshield with almost no gear, and real expensive weapons. YOUR JOB IS TO TAKE HITS. You want HIGH AC and lots of HP. Damage output of your offhand sword is irrelevent. I know you said you solo, but that won't last much longer, and you'd probably solo better with better armor than you would with that sword.

#Davo the Stupendous, Posted: Feb 25 2003 at 1:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I want to buy the Frosty and Defender's lightblade combo. plz send tell on Luclin server.
Secondary
# Feb 15 2003 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a 57 warrior on Xev. Snowchipper in primary and this is secondary. Had a frostbringer in secondary before this and i notice a MAJOR difference in the ease to hold aggro. Would highly suggest this for offhand.
#Fierceknight, Posted: Feb 09 2003 at 1:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What's better a Frostbringer or Defenders Lightblade?
#Princess Malkinere, Posted: Feb 06 2003 at 11:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) had about 10 or 11 of these drop in a group the other night boo! We want more vita blades! =P
what is better
# Feb 06 2003 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
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could anyone tell me if this would be better in secondary than a frosty for DPS and agro ..im just trying to figure out which is a better combo, I use a shortblade of lightning in my primary???
RE: what is better
# Feb 09 2003 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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Keep the Shortblade in Primary (always keep lower delay in your main for more attacks which gives more agro) and if you have the Lightblade, definitely put that in your secondary over Frostbringer.
RE: what is better
# Jul 06 2003 at 9:32 PM Rating: Default
Bunk! The lowest delay weapon always goes in the offhand slot. I use a Lightblade in primary and a Baton of the Peacemaker in off hand. For every swing of lightblade i swing the baton at least 6 times.


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RE: what is better
# Oct 05 2003 at 7:30 AM Rating: Default
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First off that isnt a good thing.

Second Offhand delay is based on your DEX and Duel Wield skill not weapon delay.

and Third if you didnt know any of this you are NOT a level 62.
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RE: what is better
# Jan 15 2004 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Well,your wrong offhand damege is based on dly of weap,less dly in offhand=more offhand hits,your char automatically hits more with main than offhand,so...if you have a high dly weap in offhand and a low in main your gonna hit 4-10 times(depending on the dly) b4 hitting 1 time with off hand but if you have a low dly in offhand,and a higher in main,your ratio is better,example(ranger)(60+
Stained axe of the scions(14dmg,21dly)sec
DLB(22dmg,34DLY)main
youl hit say,2-3 times with DLB,and 1-2 time with SAotS,in one 4-5 hit round causing,roughly 300-310 dmg in a 6sec period but if their switched...
you wil hit with SAotS 4 times and DLB 1 time causeing 280dmg in a 5-6 sec period,their about the same but 30 dmg is a lil bit more,hope this clears things up,but you can argue with me if you want......

Edited, Thu Jan 15 19:24:09 2004
RE: what is better
# Oct 11 2003 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
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actually dex has nothing at all to do with off hand delay and yes weapon delay does
every time your weapon delay comes up you have a chance to swing with your off hand -- for instance a 20 delay weapon in your off hand means you have a chance to swing with your off hand every 2 seconds
your chance to actually swing with your off hand at each delay increment depends on nothing but your dual wield skill and your level -- the calculation used is (dual wield skill + level)/400
so a level 30 monk with maxed dual wield for level (215) would have (215 + 30)/400 == 61.25% chance to swing with his off hand. So using a 20 delay weapon he would have a 61.25% chance to swing every 2 seconds reguardless of dex.
As to your comment about not being a certain level, I find it quite funny that you were wrong -- not to mention the fact that i have met characters level 65 with more AA's than I would know what to do with that I could swear had never played before the day i met them and I have also met level 30 characters that knew what they were doing better than most 60+ that i know.
haha
# Feb 04 2003 at 5:44 PM Rating: Default
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I bought this last night on the Luclin server for 1k, normal price is 6k+. I got the better end of this deal by far.
drop
# Feb 02 2003 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Namely this is from An Animated Guardian in the HOHA basements. They are tougher than the Valorians , but all are snarable. All the basements can be quadded. About 26k hp I'd say on one is what itd take to kill in a quad. lightblade is hugely rare, about 4 times as rare as spectrals(which means about 1 in 500 drops). I gave one away to a friend whose corpse decayed to finance new armors.

Edited, Sun Feb 2 14:41:51 2003
Prexus
# Jan 09 2003 at 4:27 PM Rating: Default
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Also dont know for sure but the guy posting about dozens for sale must be on prexus... During slow time there is average 3 - 4 for sale for 6k a piece... and primetime i have seen (the most i have seen) 7 for sale at 1 time... all compeating to sell theirs,.... thats where i got mine for 4k, and with warblade of the fallen in primary (10 / 19) i like it alot!
#djfreckle, Posted: Jan 09 2003 at 4:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Fleshy comes from Cazic Thule... Only after PoP did verant real start putting recomended / required. MOST CT items have required lvl = to the recomended lvl. Also there is no (currently) intent to go back and list required lvl on the CT items that have required vs recomended
Drops From...
# Jan 08 2003 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Dropped off of An Animated Guardian. Looks like a black suit of armor. Snareable, doesn't summon, little more resistant than the other "kiteable" mobs there.
#JonaHelmDragonfriend, Guardian of the Gl, Posted: Jan 06 2003 at 2:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) proud to have snatched this in bazaar last night for 5k. Beast 5k I have ever shelled out. I can say that my record hit so far is 129 with selfbuffed 217str, but average blows are closer to 80-90, and got one really nice double atk in for 123/119 so far, over 250dmg w one swing for a 1handed weapon. Im tossing on teaming it with my snowchipper or warblade of the fallen, thinking snowchipper mainly for the parry % stats and proc. We'll see. I recommend this weapon to anyone looking to kick the bejesus outa stuff really fast and hard.
Where Drop
# Jan 02 2003 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Can anyone tell me Where and off WHat this item drops and i ned buy one on Vallon Zek if anyone is selling
Hmm..
# Dec 25 2002 at 12:08 AM Rating: Default
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Well av price on sol ro is about 6 - 9k, bought one for 6k yesterday ) christmas eve and i do in the 90's sometimes 100's with this( including a str buff though eh) its a very nice weapon but compared to LSoEE i guess there about the same
#Meozar, Posted: Dec 23 2002 at 12:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am selling this for 15k send me a tell...im on E'ci server :)
price wars and ploys
# Dec 11 2002 at 2:08 PM Rating: Default
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The talk that this will be nerfed etc seems to me a total crock and marketing ploy. Yeah I got an inside source from VI he tells me LSOEE has 15 AC on it.

Perhaps this weapon has a nice damage bonus but I did not see it mentioned.

Why would the drop be nerfed with a recommended level of 56?

I see that some think its a bit better, perhaps a tiny bit either way. But I have had two peeps offer it in trade to me for LSOEE. If they are equal then this weapon is worth 9 - 12k depending on how many dozen are selling in the bazaar.
RE: price wars and ploys
# Dec 21 2002 at 12:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Man Dozens in the Bazaar?!? I have not seen any for sale in the Bazaar on Stormhammer or Seventh Hammer servers. What server are you on where there are dozens for sale? I will send a mule over and get one for sure!
dodgy seller
# Dec 09 2002 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Morell Thule yeah i saw that for 20k.. gotta hate these people trying to get huge profits. Normal price on Morell-Thule is 10-13k.

I hope the trader falls on the blade :)
dual weild use ?
# Nov 29 2002 at 3:25 PM Rating: Default
Everyone told me that dual weild working like that.

each time ur primary hit U have a chance to dual weild. That would mean that the delay of Ur secondary weapon have no mather. and if it is this wepaon just kick **** in the secondary slot.???

Sry for my poor english
RE: dual weild use ?
# Dec 01 2002 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I believe you are correct except that delay has a small impact. In the course of a fight you will more than likely have instances where the primary swing has a positive dual wield check but your secondary is still in delay. In that case you would not receive the extra attack(s). I could be wrong and if so I'm sure I'll be "corrected". Hehe
Regardless this weapon rocks in the secondary slot.

Edited, Sun Dec 1 21:24:57 2002
RE: dual weild use ?
# Dec 02 2002 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
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No, that's wrong.
Your offhand is completely unrelated to your primary hand. Each hand handles the delay itself.
When you start combat each hand has the chance to hit, the primary hand gets a double attack check and the offhand first has to pass the dual wield check and then a double attack check. After the delay of the primary hand it hits again depending on the skill checks. Otoh after the delay of the OFFHAND it gets a new dual wield check and then another double attack skill.

So, not your primary gets a dual wield check if the offhand gets a hit but the offhand gets the dual wield check after the delay of the offhand.

Hope this helps
RE: dual weild use ?
# Dec 03 2002 at 6:38 AM Rating: Good
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/agree Kshaaz

Read that :)

Dual Wield: This is your ability to use two weapons at the same time. The formula is (LVL+Skill)/500, so a 20th level warrior with 105 dual wield skill has a 25% chance of swinging his second weapon each time its delay cycles. The delay of the primary weapon does not affect the secondary weapon.

And read that -> http://www2.netdoor.com/~ddeas/wfaq.htm#1.1

Edited, Tue Dec 3 06:15:47 2002
RE: dual weild use ?
# Jan 06 2003 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
From the link from faycalh's post:

4.2 Is there a damage bonus?

Yes, it's (Level-25)/3, rounded down. This is only applied to hits with your primary hand. The bonus raises your max hit as well as your min hit, making your primary hand much more effective. Because the bonus is added to every hit, it's in your best interest to put your fastest weapon in your primary hand when you start getting the damage bonus, to get the extra damage as often as possible. The bonus for two-handers was recently changed due to the disparity between dual wielding and using a two-hander at high levels. 2-handed weapons have a higher damage bonus. The damage bonus is listed with the weapon stats.
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RE: dual weild use ?
# Dec 08 2002 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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And THIS formula is the reason why im using a slow but hard hitting weapon in offhand. You hit very rarely with it. I have about a 60% chance of a succesfull dual wield in lvl 58 using this formula, that alone is already bad. But Guys, that was only the check for Dual Wield. You forgot one important Check 8) After a successfull dual wield check you have to HIT the mob also first before you can check a double hit 8) So i would say i have about a 45% chance to HIT a mob with the offhand weapon.
Im also experiencing this when i put my 12/20 weapon into offhand. It HITS a lot lesser than in primary.
RE: dual weild use ?
# Jan 10 2003 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually no you don't have to hit the mob to get a double attack check. If you succeed on your DW then your offhand swings and you make a DA check, if that check succeeds you swing again. Same goes for mainhand, you don't have to hit to get a DA check. Every time your mainhand delay cycles, you get a DA check and either swing once or twice depending on whether or not DA fires.
Wild Rumors????
# Nov 23 2002 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Current price on Xegony Bazaar is around 30k. There are not many of these swords on the server. I hear that there may be as few as 9 or 10 swords in use right now. Someone was shouting on the buy/sell channel last nite that they were looking for a "DLB" ...after asking what a "DLB" was, I was shocked to find out that the buyer was in search of a "Defenders LightBlade". What was even more amazing was this buyer was paying 70k for the "DLB", I asked if he was out of his mind, and then he told me that a friend of his who works closely with the people at Verant told him that this was one of the PoP items that was going to have it's drop rate severally dropped, there was even talk of making it a NO DROP item, the same as the "Windblade" which went from 15-20k all the way up to 90k in just over 2 weeks. Anyone out there have any information on this sword, I'd like to get my hands on one for my warrior before it's made NO DROP...This baby rocks
RE: Wild Rumors????
# Nov 30 2002 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
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WOOT...Finally got my hands on one of these bad boys. OMFG, can not believe what kind of damage my warrior can cause using this in his offhand. Paid a very healthy price for it but worth every plat. I now combo with a Swiftblade of Zek(primary) and the Defenders LightBlade (secondary). I will hold onto the sword for a long time to come. GL finding one at any price.
RE: Wild Rumors????
# Nov 25 2002 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
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im a lvl 38 warrior on tholuxe paells. the other day i asked a question concerning 1hs weapons in pok. a nice lady came up and answered my questions . she then asked would you like this for now till you get better it wont work as well for now but wait till later. it currently only 15 damage for me but i can equip it. I think ill hang on to it
The 54 rogue offhanding a 56+ weapon
# Nov 22 2002 at 4:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Excuse me but.....how in the **** are you useing a "recomended 56+ weapon at 54? I have tryed to use a recomended 59 with my 56 warrior and couldnt equip.
RE: The 54 rogue offhanding a 56+ weapon
# Dec 09 2002 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Recommended vs. Required: I have toons level 38 and 53 that have objects with REC levels of 46, 56 and 61. What they cannot equip yet are the ones that have REQ levels above their own. The higher they go, the better the stats on the REC level items. I love it! It's like getting upgrades all the time!
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RE: The 54 rogue offhanding a 56+ weapon
# Dec 02 2002 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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this is a different era of recommended level i have one on my 51 ranger and my main is a fleshgrinder which is recommended level 51 a while back i lost a level and could no longer equip the fleshgrinder but i could still use my lightblade. yes btw this weapon is great hitting for 88 offhand. Good Journeyz

Zwolfe AnilaToweya
51 Ranger
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RE: The 54 rogue offhanding a 56+ weapon
# Dec 01 2002 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
44 posts
/shrug
I definitely equipped at 54 (55 now). The only stat that isn't complete is HP. At 55 I get full damage.
On a similar note I bought a pair of nice legs for my bard that were level recommended, not required. He could not equip them. Sounds like some items are mislabeled.
RE: The 54 rogue offhanding a 56+ weapon
# Nov 22 2002 at 8:03 PM Rating: Decent
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bought this last night for 5k it is a great thing and they sell for 10 k on my server ayonae ro btw i am lvl 52 and dmg is 20 until 56 wich iti is then 22 red stats. Nice Graphic
RE: The 54 rogue offhanding a 56+ weapon
# Feb 04 2003 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
11 posts
Actually at 55 the only red stat is hp, and then it is 44hp instead of 45hp.
in comparison to LSoEE
# Nov 21 2002 at 5:39 PM Rating: Good
44 posts
I offhand this on my rogue. Personally I find it to be an improvement over the LSoEE that it replaced. At 54 I get around 60 more HPs due to the negative stamina on LSoEE and overall my DPS is a little higher, even with the longer delay. I'm thinking that the +5 magic damage on the LSoEE must be resisted more than I was originally led to believe as I find myself hitting in the 90s more often with a max of 102. At 54 I get nearly full stats, 21 34 with 8 dex and 43 HPs. Definitely worth more than LSoEE imho. Great for a rogue in terms of lower aggro due to longer delay. Before I get flamed for abbreviating, LSoEE is Long Sword of Ethereal Energy. Looks cool too.
RE: in comparison to LSoEE
# Jun 10 2003 at 9:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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I agree, this is the best 1HS for rogues to use in offhand. The high delay means les hits so less aggro, and the high dmg and great ratio mean same if not better dot as other comparable weapons. On same note warriors and tanking classes should look for a weapon with same ratio but lower damage and delay to create more aggro.
Got this on Xegony for 1300 pp this week, and seen it selling for 1000 soon after.
I get 18/34 at lvl 48, which is still better ratio than jagged blade of mourning I was using. As far as I am concerned this slot is filled til I am lvl 65 unless some new weapon is discovered or created in upgrade.
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Trade
# Nov 21 2002 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I traded a Frosty for this last night...I'm wondering if I got ripepd off. From the sounds of this its worth about 10k more but it's still alot slower than I'm used to
price
# Nov 21 2002 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
I have had mine for several weeks now and only paid 10k
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