Pendant of the Triumphant Victor
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Drops: This item is found on creatures.  Drunder, Fortress of Zek (Plane of Tactics) Zone(s) Found In: |
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Item definitely screams priest class. Would be a pity to see it go to a monk, rogue, or even int casters first. The focus effect screams Cleric, Shaman, Druid in more or less that order. Although the last two could be switched around due to lack of sta for a Shaman. Any class would be very happy with the item, but would be a shame to go to classes that would waste the focus effect. Very good item for anyone who obtains it. Hard to find 18 sv all in any slot, let alone a neck slot that has a very apparant weakness for high end character stats.
This item "screams" nuker/CControl more than anything, since this doesn't effect % heals or complete heals. At the end of the day, however, anyone who has a manapool could use this in EXP situations. In raid situations, one more mez, one last nuke could be the difference between success and failure.
Cleric only? The very notions smells of bias. Bah- no more than any other pure caster. Any guild is going to do it however they like at the end of the day, but clerics aren't the only providers in a raid -- that role can be filled up just like any other.
My highest is a Necro, but I've played many other classes as well and I read a lot. My 2 cents: Would the item be great for any class?...Yes Should the item go to just any old class?...ABSOLUTELY NOT The answer to the obvious riddle is >> pure casters <<. Good focus effects, in particular MP4, can often be more useful and more desirable than disciplines, and MP4 is too valueable for them. A melee clase in particular would make only partial use out of this item -- only a pure caster would see the full benefit of it. Why be wasteful? Giving this to a Warrior would be like giving the best melee damage weapon in the game to a pure caster just because it had +40 Int and Wis on it... wasteful... let them get those stats elsewhere. Keep it efficient.
My highest is a Necro, but I've played many other classes as well and I read a lot. My 2 cents: Would the item be great for any class?...Yes Should the item go to just any old class?...ABSOLUTELY NOT The answer to the obvious riddle is >> pure casters <<. Good focus effects, in particular MP4, can often be more useful and more desirable than disciplines, and MP4 is too valueable for them. A melee clase in particular would make only partial use out of this item -- only a pure caster would see the full benefit of it. Why be wasteful? Giving this to a Warrior would be like giving the best melee damage weapon in the game to a pure caster just because it had +40 Int and Wis on it... wasteful... let them get those stats elsewhere. Keep it efficient.
Safe journey,
-Hardryv
-Hardryv
As a cleric, I can easily agree with you, but this is truly an all/all item. Forget the MP4 for a second, and anyone could want it. 18 sva, 100 HP, 100 mana. Add back the mana preservation...well, 11 out of the 15 classes in the game use mana to at least some extent. (I'm excluding bards.) Not very critical in the hands of a ranger, but as far as I'm concerned they or even a rogue have as much right to it as a cleric or a wizard.
Only the exceptions can be exceptional.
How can you say "forget the main statistic that is present on the item" in some sort of validation of it's utility?
It's utility lies in the MP4, why would you reduce the item to:
AC15 DEX10 HP100 SVALL18 by handing it to pure melee when an
AC15 DEX10 WIS10 INT10 HP100 MANA100 SVALL18 MP4 item helps your guild in a raid situation so much more?
Edited, Wed Sep 10 15:22:47 2003
It's utility lies in the MP4, why would you reduce the item to:
AC15 DEX10 HP100 SVALL18 by handing it to pure melee when an
AC15 DEX10 WIS10 INT10 HP100 MANA100 SVALL18 MP4 item helps your guild in a raid situation so much more?
Edited, Wed Sep 10 15:22:47 2003
5 posts
If you're able to get this item, you don't care about wisdom or int if you're a caster.
It benefits all casting classes because of the Mana Preservation 4. And everyone can use the +100 to both HP and mana, as well as the excellent saves vs all.
Good item for everyone, not just priest classes.
Edited, Tue Nov 12 10:24:42 2002
It benefits all casting classes because of the Mana Preservation 4. And everyone can use the +100 to both HP and mana, as well as the excellent saves vs all.
Good item for everyone, not just priest classes.
Edited, Tue Nov 12 10:24:42 2002
Ok, I have to take issue with one statement you make:
Now, you have to be in a good guild to get to this encounter, but I know many people in big raid guilds, that do not yet have their WIS or INT up to the 355 cap. Also, many hybrids don't have theirs up to the 280 cap for hybrids. Basically, you COULD be in a raid for this, and still not have your wis capped at 355, especially if you're a new recruit, or a hybrid (pally, ranger, etc)
My take on this item is, I agree with those who say it is an all/all item. My guild is nowhere near killing this guy, and I already have MP4 on my cleric. Its not that hard to get mana pres items, particularly with the ornate armor quests open to all 55+ now.
decent ac for neck slot, 100hp, +18 all saves and +10dex make this a melee item as well as caster and hybrid.
Edited, Sat Sep 6 12:33:03 2003
Quote:
If you're able to get this item, you don't care about wisdom or int if you're a caster.
Now, you have to be in a good guild to get to this encounter, but I know many people in big raid guilds, that do not yet have their WIS or INT up to the 355 cap. Also, many hybrids don't have theirs up to the 280 cap for hybrids. Basically, you COULD be in a raid for this, and still not have your wis capped at 355, especially if you're a new recruit, or a hybrid (pally, ranger, etc)
My take on this item is, I agree with those who say it is an all/all item. My guild is nowhere near killing this guy, and I already have MP4 on my cleric. Its not that hard to get mana pres items, particularly with the ornate armor quests open to all 55+ now.
decent ac for neck slot, 100hp, +18 all saves and +10dex make this a melee item as well as caster and hybrid.
Edited, Sat Sep 6 12:33:03 2003
Everyone would benefit, yes, but there's only one class that could use it to its fullest: necromancer. Given 100 extra mana and 100 extra HP *and* the mana preservation, a necro can decide where to throw mana and who to prop up when the going gets tough. A cleric can heal, and that's fine but healing doesn't help when the enchanters are OOM. Healing doesn't help when the wizzy can't quite get off that last nuke.
This is an item that should go to whoever will make the best use of it. If, in your group, that's a shadow knight or a ranger or a mage, then cool. I would probably not want to see it go to a non-caster, but beyond that, it's all about using it wisely.
This is an item that should go to whoever will make the best use of it. If, in your group, that's a shadow knight or a ranger or a mage, then cool. I would probably not want to see it go to a non-caster, but beyond that, it's all about using it wisely.
9 posts
Since when do hybrids not take damage, or use mana?
It's fully useable by all folks who use mana who can obtain the item.
--Jas
It's fully useable by all folks who use mana who can obtain the item.
--Jas
13 posts
Priest class only? Nah.
Int casters would love that extra mana. They also use mana to cast spells. Tanks maybe for the extra hp. Would be a tough call who it would go to actually.
Int casters would love that extra mana. They also use mana to cast spells. Tanks maybe for the extra hp. Would be a tough call who it would go to actually.
Luvguf
63 Wizard
Innoruuk server
"What if the Hokey-Pokey is really what it's all about?"
63 Wizard
Innoruuk server
"What if the Hokey-Pokey is really what it's all about?"
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