Ive seriously been farming this for 11 hours straight and havent seen it drop at all, ive gotten all the other drops from the valiant spirits over and over -.-
I have hunted there for many years now considering pop is some years old. I have never ever seen it drop off a black suit always the white suit. Good luck guys hope this helps you get more of these.
At lvl 53 I found I could hold aggro over a lvl 62 pladdin in Grieg's End. In Dranik's Scar soloing at lvl 54 those crits/crips at 300-500 hps are hard to match!
I have asked many MTs about 2h slash vs 1hslash and all have told me that on the POP 2hslash generates more Hate and that I should run with my Windblade. True it will help if I can augment it with a proc.
duel weilding, especially with procs, will out agro 2h. Most PoP mt's used 2h for a while because of the high hits the mobs put out, using 2h reduced riposte damage.
all ive noticed is that i put out much better dps with windblade. With warmarshalls i hit for around 150 normal where as with WB i hit for an average of threehundred. and as a warrior, the only thing i would suggest is that u use neither of these when trying to get aggro, because w/o a proc, and no dual wielding you would loose aggro fairly quickly.
WMBS slightly out dps's windblade, more noticeably in the long run. Don't be fooled by the big flashy hits. If you do actual parsing of the dps, the wmbs will pull ahead more and more the longer the fight runs.
If anyone has an actual in game stat window pic could they plz post it....thanx all
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i know this is gonna start a fight but which is better for damage wmbs or this? i currently own a wmbs and am only lvl 15 but i want to know whether this or the wmbs is better in the long run. IM a zerker so i dont cast spells. I would also like to know which weapon and belt haste combo is the best? i was thinking rbg for the stats or soulscream couldnt pick one though
For a zerker imo because i just started one get the higher dmg weap in this case Windblade because of frenzy which is just another meele attack so if you attack fewer times but with frenzy you hit for a ton it will increase your dps by more based on your class abilities for almost any other class id rather have the WMBS for an alt but for my zerker id spring for the higher dmg weap for frenzy alone. Currently i use a Reaver 40/40 and i have not done any tests on this and frenzy but to contradict me if ppl wish to i still need to test if the repop timer on frenzy is based off the delay of the weap and is effected by haste and what not because if the frenzt timer can be reduced useing those then the primary part of my argument for teh Windblade is reduced to my oppinion that hitting for biger #'s is more fun. Ill post again after i get around to checkinign teh repop timer with no haste and with different weapons.
The Damage ratio is very close between the Windblade and WMBS, I have used both and for the price difference the WMBS is far better. However at level 60 I would recommend the velium gemmed, since update it has had 100 hp,Mana & End added to it. great stats and the same delay as WMBS but 34 DMG and the Highest DMG ratio Money can buy, not to mention is has Two aug slots and not one.
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In terms of pure dps then I think this and the wmbs are quite similar, with the wmbs moving ahead a bit once you get into the 50s when damage bonuses start building up. At level 65 I reckon the wmbs will do around 5-6% more damage than this on average.
This is only based on my calculations though, so I would happily change my opinion if someone has done some real testing.
However one advantage of this weapon is that you will take a lot less damage from ripostes.
And in terms of life at 50+, let's not forget the Two-Tined Corpse Pitchfork. At level 51, it is effectively a 25/22 with dmg bonus 9... On par with Windblade ratio-wise, plus that dmg bonus really adds up with such a low delay. Not bad for only 1.5k in the bazaar, eh? http://www.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=17819
So, after tanking and soloing for a couple of weeks with my 2TCP, I'm beginning to think that the Windblade is overrated, especially with all the awesome GoD player-crafted items.
It loses a significant amount of damage bonus because it is not delay 28 or higher. Those are generally the preferred 2-handers. Also, faster slashers tend to eat the ripostes a lot more. For tanks I'd recommend the Windblade simply because it's slower but still a very close ratio.
I have my Main on Stromm, it was going at 50k but now more like 80k. I'd recommend you use WMBS till 60 then gett the Velium Gemmed Greatsword. Cheaper the the Windblade and IMO far better. I've used all three mentioned and the Velium is far the best I've used that you can buy.
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I'm currently a 65 paladin, I've had my windblade for a loooong time. i have Combat Fury 1 at the moment with my str maxxed (no ND) I hit for about 365 max with this.. I have critted for 540's. This is with Combat Fury 1 , so keep that in mind. I'm looking forward to seeing how much i crit for with CF3 and also howmuch i 'Cleanse' for with SU3 :) I'm a big numbers type of player and wouldn't give up my windblade for very much at all.. I love it. plus bigger delay ratio cuts down on riposte damage which can help you tanking mobs like BoT tower, and GoD stuff.
On my server (Stromm) prices are sky high and the Windblade is going for 80k+ the Staff on the other hand is going for 8k a tenth of the price. As a pally I have proc spells, and a proc aug and like the speed of the staff (28) as it gives me more chance to proc. Also between stuns I can get two srikes with staff as compared to one with the windblade.(with haste item and chanter I cap in haste) For warriors and berserkers it must be a different issue, but 10th of the price of the Windblade it's needless to say I went with the Staff.
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Proccing rates are by the minute instead of by the swing. Thus, although you swing more with the WMBS, the overall proc amounts in a 15-20 minute period will be about the same. The difference is that the windblade will be more spikey in the short term for proccing, as will its DPS, due to its high delay.
Ok, first off this is not meant as a flame so put away the torches. I just want everyone to see the what is considered by most to be the truth.
Over on www.thesteelwarrior.org forums there have been multiple discussions on the topic of DPS and the common equation that is accepted is:
((damagex2)+damagebonus)/delay 0 So plugging these 2 weapons into this equation you get the following at lvl 65:
Windblade: ((50x2)+45)/44=3.3 DPS
War Marshal's Bladed Staff: ((31x2)+35)/28=3.46 DPS
So, in the end WMBS is better, not by much, but it's better (and cheaper :P)
Here's another interesting point, since both of these weapons have exactly the same recommended level, it's easy to compare them at half that, level 28.
Windblade ((25x2)+4)/44=1.2 DPS
War Marshal's Bladed Staff ((15x2)+1)/28=1.0 DPS
So, in reality the Windblade is better the lower lvl you are (after 28 so you get damage bonus), and gets worse as you approach the max damage bonus. At my warrior's level of 48, these weapons are nearly identical, the WMBS is 2.25 DPS and the WB is 2.27 DPS.
And just a disclaimer, the 'DPS' ratings may not be exacty, but nonetheless it is a good way to compare the 2 weapons.
It doesn't sound like this equation gives very good DPS ratings. A weapon of this range will cause over 10 times that amount of damage in combat. A level one warrior with his starting weapons does about 2 DPS.
Actually, since he divided by delay, this would be the base dps per tenth of a second. So move the decimal point by 1 digit, and this is a good rough calculation. Of course, the ACTUAL DPS depends on your: attack, haste, weapon skill, and the Mob's AC, level, and damage avoidance/mitigation among other factors.
The big advantage the windblade offers, is the ability to cast a complete spell between swings, minimizing the loss of melee DPS while casting.
I really like using my WoHG I hit for over 100+ everytime with it, and yes its a little slower but hey if you can't afford it, and are looking not to buy stuff anymore. Than just use WoHG, i don't use it when I'm Mt of course. And I actually like the look of being a "math teacher". Also, I rarely ever see any 65 tanks using this. Windblade is just for those peeps that want to show off what they have I guess...
was testing from 15 to 30 with a Berserker, equal in 2hd slash and pierce. had borrowed weapons from alts, includeing Windblade, Windriders Lance, and Two Tined Corpse Pitchfork.....I can tell you that the mobs dropped the fastest with the Pitchfork by a landslide......perhaps this will change with lvl's as dmg bonuses mature but for most of your Berserkers career I would recomend saving your PP and get the Pitchfork.
that can just be attributed to most higher delay weapons having their advantage in the damage bonus. If you're level 15-30, your damage bonus is very very small (or non existant), so you can see how a quicker and better ratio 2hs is improved by being on a lower level toon
I dunno about you guys but this is a great weapon for any class that can use it, Specially if your a warrior looking to do some heavy damage. No i know people say warriors are ment for 1hs to fast hitting, But i love this wep, On raids or in grps when im not the main tank ill switch to my windblade, i hit over 100+ almost every hit and it can get to about 250+ I crit for about 200-300 Max crit right now is 383 and that is without crippling, havent gotten to get one off yet, Ive just dinged 54 so once i get to a Dm, the next time i go beserk its Mighty strike time ^.^
hey guys, I just gotta say that at lvl 54 the Windblade is just pure sex. Not only can you hold aggro over dps classes 10 lvls higher than you but it allows you to solo in places that duel wield will not.
Its an ok weapon but..well it looks crappy, which vain as i am matters alot :) Also, it has no proc which is a major bad point in my opinion. Personally i prefer mournfollow-great stats, better ratio, proc and looks good.
Greatspear of Dawn better to, 53/46 with the 750 DoT to undead proc...but harder to get i guess.
this weapon is great. and it doesnt matte if it has a proc or not. in most heavy raiding guilds such as mine, unless youre a MT, you better not be using a weapon with any kind of proc, thats just bad joo joo. this thing hits nice, and you can use it all the time without having to put it away for raids.
For a 47 Paly currently using Argent Protector (which I love) which is better? Windblade or Double Edged Ga'Nak? Paly has excellent stats and Runebranded Girdle for Haste. Thoughts appreciated - have tried the Wide Blade Greatsword but feel the Argent actually accomplished more - at least based on what my HP was left at while soloing the same prey (FGs in GD/EW) and alternating between the two for each kill.
These used to be about 50k on cazic-thule ages ago, then they dropped to an all time low of 15k. Now they have settled to around 28k, which doesnt seem bad - but are much rarer in bazaar .. 1 or 2 instead of the 6 we used to see. Woteva the price, this item is amazing and im one happy pally since gettin it :)
It still Drops as of 11/14 I got one. First time I was hunting in Halls of Honor. Was hunting there for about 4 hours and one dropped rolled and BAM got the windblade. Im a very happy camper.
#Sidyen,
Posted:Nov 12 2003 at 6:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I payed 16k for this.......then my monk got it to drop in HoH with his guild....Then i sold mine and quit everquest =) HAVE FUN EVIL
#DISU,
Posted:Oct 23 2003 at 9:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WTB on TZ.. Email mojo1959@bellsouth.net.
#tizzal,
Posted:Oct 04 2003 at 7:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I finally got one of these on my war after many months of drooling for around 15k pp worth of trades. I loved it to pieces but realised that validus custodus leggings were making me look noob.
These things rule! My fiend let me borrow his for awhile and.... OMG!!! I luved them right off the bat. I've wanted one since I was a little newbie. Im actually very close to getting it now. lol. I fell in luv with this wep when I borrowed it.
When I hit the crip of my life. 1k of dmg. I nearly fell out of my chair.
hehe, you shoulda got a FEA (fabled Exe Axe) and seen the high hits THAT thing puts out. Crippling blows for 1100's really puts a couple of casters to shame if you just whip that out and dps/tank for your mighty strike disc (inform your healers...its a big BIG jump in your dps)
got this for 20k on lanys server...then sold it for 22k =P then went and picked one up in basement in HoH...we got extremly lucky and dropped on the first kill along with a spec parchment which went to our druid
I see more pal/shd runnin around with these now adays than rangers with centi longswords when Luclin was the new expansion. hell i own two of these one for my Ranger and one for my Shadowknight. I love this axe, great stuff for players who cant raid.
I picked up one of these the other day while in HoH. Was in the Right Basement area camp beating on Valiant Spirits. We had at least an 8hr camp going on here before we saw it though. Also dropped a spec and our cleric was overly joyed at that.
I bought one of these for 50k on TM thinking it was going to parse better then War marshall's staff and to my suprise i believe war marshall's is better. The war marshall's cost me 8k where windblade cost me 50k =/. I keep them both whenver i feel i'm missin a lot a switch, heh. And for those of you wondering about where it drops. The Rumor about the path mobs is correct, but it is VERY rare. i'm talking about 300 kills and you will be lucky to see this. I think verant makes drop rate on new items insanely high then nerfs them so they're a bunch of em at first.
Unless you really sit down and add it up to confirm most of the time when you start thinking you miss alot, its simply in your head lol. Honestly because I do teh same thing on my bard..I have a toetwister bagged and use a copper hammer and epic...i just feel like I am doing mroe with the 18/24 from teh toetwister than the copper hammers 13/20....not really a diffrence when you do the math i guess but seeing the toetwister do 200+ crits and hitting regular for like 130ish makes you feel like you are doing more dps. Even tho copper hammer does 179dd ALOT. Same with windblade and your war marshalls. 31/28 and windblade is 50/44...jus tlookin at it seems liek it may be nearly the same dps but as MT you want those big hits to draw a lil more aggro i guess. the crits are nice too
Well I dont know about the dual-wielding classes, but for Pally/SK the Windblade is a much wiser choice then War Marshalls. Based purely on Ratio they are very close DPS-wise, but a slower delay, harder hitting weapon is nice if you want to sneak spells in between swings. If you are MT'ing and you are slashing for up to 300 (non-crits) like you will with Windblade, plus can sneak stuns or taps in between swings, thats alotta agro.
#Minitiki the Venerable,
Posted:Aug 06 2003 at 6:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'll agree, WMBS seems to parse a lot better. and i'm quite suprised that it costs less than a windblade. /shrug grats to you :-)
#tolkienfan,
Posted:Aug 02 2003 at 11:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I bought my Windblade at 54. Warriors, when you hit your 50s I highly recommend switching to 2HS or 2HB. At 54, I hit my all time highest crit with this thing, 431!!! I have no idea what a crippling blow from one of these will be. Make sure you have a haste item and you are in a group with a haster. If you are you should hold agro with one of these. I cannot even imagine what damage I will be doing when I hit level 60. At 55, the damage bonus is already at 26.
#Naliu,
Posted:Jul 29 2003 at 4:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) General going price is 20k or so on E'ci
#Warcry,
Posted:Jul 22 2003 at 8:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) got one on Cazic for 19K. Logged one day expecting to see the usual 24-35K prices and to my suprise, 19K!!!! logged in trader, got the cash and WOOT! It's Mine..
#Leadaira,
Posted:Jul 20 2003 at 11:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) FOR ALL of you getting Jacked uo the Yin Yang here is a News flash. Almost 3 months ago i bought the windblade for 30k on The Nameless Server. This 75k Price is WAY Jacked!!!
#destef,
Posted:Jul 16 2003 at 4:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) On the 7th Hammer the asking price was 80-110k for a good 3 months until just recently they dropped to around 50k. Picked on up for 40k which is the lowest I've seen in a while. I think it has a lot to do with how many people are selling at any given time. The one i bought for 40k what the lowest of 3 for sale at the time. Once they dry up and only one is for sale at any given time I expect the price to go back upwards of 100k. A deseprate uber with a lot of cash might pay it cause its no big deal to them and its a quick buy, but just because I see high prices posted all the time doesnt mean I consider that the going rate. I sell stuff for 50% over the average price and it all sells...eventually. You just have to be patient--and it doesn't mean I go determining the going rate because of it.