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Mace of the Fallen Crusader
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Required: Yes12 posts
[b][/b][Red][/Red] This weapon does great in mid 30's, and cheap!
Reijinn 44 paladin of Karana (Erollisi marr)
Zerixthar Iksar monk of 15 seasons (Solusek Ro)
Secillis, Dark Elf swashbuckler of 37 seasons (Antonia Bayle server,EQ2)
Zerixthar Iksar monk of 15 seasons (Solusek Ro)
Secillis, Dark Elf swashbuckler of 37 seasons (Antonia Bayle server,EQ2)
got this bad boy for my dwarf pally.just put that undead proc spell on it and i have been hittin for 100+ at lvl 31 in unrest and mistmoore castle.
If a magicians tanks and no ones around,is it true?
Eueadder Stormrage
Mage of Tallon Zek
41th season
Eueadder Stormrage
Mage of Tallon Zek
41th season
I picked this up for my level 35 pally last night on EM for 5p. Not 50p, not 500p, not 5000p, FIVE! Here is the kicker, it wasn't the only one at that price. The most expensive one was 999p, most were under 100p.
All Hail the Avalon Imperial Guard... defenders of what is right and just
No thats pretty much the normal price for them now, 5 to 50pp.
1 post
I stopped using my Di'zok Imperial Katana almost completely now in favor of this weapon and the bash. I use the katana jus to lvl up my 2hs. It's insane how easily it drops. This weapon is choice.
Seldrin Winglessangel
Level 53 High Elf Cavalier of Tunare
Morell-Thule
Level 53 High Elf Cavalier of Tunare
Morell-Thule
#Edfu,
Posted: Sep 16 2003 at 1:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Paid 40pp for this! Insane i got it because its fast and want to get my 1hb up. I feel bad for the first post that paid 10k for this. not really its kind of funny.
Scholar
41 posts
The bazaar on my server was totally flooded with these things and getting one for like 20 plat was easy. No pally should be without one and I have yet to find a better weapon for the price. Looks cool too, so I've included a picture.
Mace of the Fallen Crusader
Duke Killane Wolfcastle
65 Lord Protector
Edited, Sun Jan 25 07:14:57 2004
Mace of the Fallen Crusader
Duke Killane Wolfcastle
65 Lord Protector
Edited, Sun Jan 25 07:14:57 2004
1 post
This weapon is absolutely awsome. Maybe I overpaid at 29pp!!! LOL (what an unbelievably low price!!) At lvl 31, 1hb skill 145 I'm hitting 60+ at times and double hits combined well over 100. PLZ no more posts on this weapon, before they find out how cheap it's selling for at the bazaar and nerf it.
I don't think it will get nerfed (thank God, because I love this weapon) because of the recommended level, which means unless youre fairly good level (30s) its an okay weapon which is stats about as good as any other weapon worth 40pp (or now 25 or even 10 hehe). Plus the fact that it is a common drop, AND paladin only which means 1 class out of 15 can use it.
It has been nerfed, but not in quite the way you might have thought... expect the quantity to dwindle quite a lot and the price to shoot up in the bazaar over the next few weeks....
Yes it was... this one I kind of agreed with. There were other items that I think they drastically over-nerfed and cost a lot of folks (myself included) some serious coin. Animated bait was obnoxious and people really can't complain about the nerf there, but things like Tacticians Bulwark were nerfed painfully, and folks that turned them in are out a good item which they turned in in good faith.
Scholar
41 posts
Hehe, if you were referring to it being worth like 10k tribute points that got changed quickly and now its only worth like 50pts.
Killane Wolfcastle
65 Lord Protector
Killane Wolfcastle
65 Lord Protector
19 posts
i picked one of these up for 45pp last night
8 posts
I got one of these weaps for my pally He is onyl lvl 35 but Its awesome...Was using a CS This mace is definitly an upgrtade....With The CS I was hitttin in only the 20s but with this hes hittin for 40s and 50s and with a Plated Shield in Secondary bash helps too sometimes bashing up in the 50s also makes up for not using a 2hs and helps with fleeing mobs when your able to bash them and stun them =D...Welll Thats all I have to say...
Gabriar goldenleaf 52 Wanderer
Sluaghtersyou Withoutmercy 35 Paladin
Well pally is 52 now and still uses this weapon really glad I picked it up for him. Cost me 100pp on Lanys Tyvl server. I dunno why a weapon this great would be sooo cheap. BTW for all Pallys out there go ahead and do the Light of Life spell quest in Dulak. Has saved my grps butt a couple of times while in LDoN. Anyways time to go get my pally innate run 3 then 53 =D.
Gabriar Goldenleaf 55 Preserver
<Ninth Order>
Sluaghtersyou Withoumercy 52 Cavalier
<Ninth Order>
LONG LIVE THE 9TH ORDER!!! =D
Edited, Thu Sep 18 14:05:17 2003
Gabriar goldenleaf 52 Wanderer
Sluaghtersyou Withoutmercy 35 Paladin
Well pally is 52 now and still uses this weapon really glad I picked it up for him. Cost me 100pp on Lanys Tyvl server. I dunno why a weapon this great would be sooo cheap. BTW for all Pallys out there go ahead and do the Light of Life spell quest in Dulak. Has saved my grps butt a couple of times while in LDoN. Anyways time to go get my pally innate run 3 then 53 =D.
Gabriar Goldenleaf 55 Preserver
<Ninth Order>
Sluaghtersyou Withoumercy 52 Cavalier
<Ninth Order>
LONG LIVE THE 9TH ORDER!!! =D
Edited, Thu Sep 18 14:05:17 2003
28 posts
Just liked to make a comment: These things are'nt all that rare. 2 guild groups at GY in CoD tonight have so far gotten 4 Circled Toe Bones, 2 Maces of the Fallen Crusaders and many diamonds and planar essences. Just a comment that if yo uwant to deck out your guild in some nice stuff, this place is pretty good for it.
18 posts
Picked up one of these on Tholuxe Paels for 100pp in bazaar. My 1HB was at 0. Got it up to around 30 in a little over an hour. Then dumped the 25 training points I had in to it. Am now over 60 on 1HB. Sweet weapon, nice and fast, good damage as well. And you definitely can't beat the price!
Ikaika
43 Night Elf Hunter
Blade's Edge
Lanikai (Retired)
57 High Elf Paladin of Tunare
43 Night Elf Hunter
Blade's Edge
Lanikai (Retired)
57 High Elf Paladin of Tunare
41 posts
I was given this at 38, by a friend of mine. At the time I was using the Vengeful Diamond Blade. Although My 1hb Skill was only 20, I opted to use this weapon as the Damage/Dely Ratio for me was better than the Diamond Blade. I have a 1hb skill of 200 now, it went up 180 in about 3 days. Now my Paladin is Pushing 42, and this is still an awesome weapon. Currently, I average 50-60 damage per hit, and hit quite often. Unless for some reason I can get a great drop in the Planes, I am sticking with this until I hit 55, and Get the Natures Defender. http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=681237
Edited, Sat Jun 7 17:33:02 2003
Edited, Sat Jun 7 17:33:02 2003
My imaginary friend thinks you have serious mental issues.
Kinzar Anesthesia and Dunkelzahn
Kinzar Anesthesia and Dunkelzahn
16 posts
I must add my voice to the cacophany of praise for this weapon. Although I don't get the impressive double-200+ hits from it that I get from my Argent Protector, I can still do roughly the same dps - not to mention the cast interruptions and added AC from being able to don a shield.
Whether I use the mace or 2hs Argent Protector when I'm MT depends on how much aggro I can maintain with just dps and Taunt: If I have to stun to keep aggro, I'll often choose the slower 2hs since I don't lose so many swings due to casting. If I don't need to stun, the extra AC from 1hb/shield combo is the wiser choice.
Of course, in groups with 3 other high-dps melees, I'll often chain-stun (as mana permits) anyway - even at the cost of my own dps - just to get the mob dead while taking little dmg to the group. Makes life easier on the healer once KEI has faded. =)
When fighting undead, a faster weapon is preferable for a MT'ing Paladin as well. Just throw on that good ol' Instrument of Nife and whatever haste you or a group member has, proc away for 240+ dmg, and get some attention and lovin' from Mr. Bones!
Romodar Letoreador
53 Paladin of Karana
Mithaniel Marr
Edited, Thu May 22 15:56:54 2003
Whether I use the mace or 2hs Argent Protector when I'm MT depends on how much aggro I can maintain with just dps and Taunt: If I have to stun to keep aggro, I'll often choose the slower 2hs since I don't lose so many swings due to casting. If I don't need to stun, the extra AC from 1hb/shield combo is the wiser choice.
Of course, in groups with 3 other high-dps melees, I'll often chain-stun (as mana permits) anyway - even at the cost of my own dps - just to get the mob dead while taking little dmg to the group. Makes life easier on the healer once KEI has faded. =)
When fighting undead, a faster weapon is preferable for a MT'ing Paladin as well. Just throw on that good ol' Instrument of Nife and whatever haste you or a group member has, proc away for 240+ dmg, and get some attention and lovin' from Mr. Bones!
Romodar Letoreador
53 Paladin of Karana
Mithaniel Marr
Edited, Thu May 22 15:56:54 2003
We were exping yesterday at Crypt of Decay zone-in, pulling puslings, knights, and maguses. Got two greater puslings in the mix. They are a pain to kill, cause they are 61, hit for double 600+, and aren't slowable. But if you want to continue killing stuff and getting exp, you have to kill these too. Both dropped this mace. So it is not like people try to get these on purpose. It's essentially Tier 2 yard trash drop.
I twinked it to my lvl 27 pally alt for practice, it is 11/25 for him, with 6STR, 4WIS, 17HP and 10SVD. In about 2 levels, it'll equal Centi SS, in a couple more will bypass Centi LS - and from there be his main 1-hander.
I twinked it to my lvl 27 pally alt for practice, it is 11/25 for him, with 6STR, 4WIS, 17HP and 10SVD. In about 2 levels, it'll equal Centi SS, in a couple more will bypass Centi LS - and from there be his main 1-hander.
Bregalad Alcarin,
High Elf Coercer, Xev <In Via Damnum>
High Elf Coercer, Xev <In Via Damnum>
44 posts
I feel sorry for the poor little guys who go out and hunt these things and spend all the time and effort to kill the mob (whether they want the item or not) and come back and try to sell in bazaar for big bucks, but find out it's worth crap and have to sell cheap or trash it. Probably why I don't go out and hunt things for items, because the price just goes further down and down until it's dirt cheap. Guess it's just the supply > demand. :-\ My heart goes out to all the people that farm the items and sell em to me! :-) Thanks, you guys save me a lot of time! Hehe
Loviee Doviee 56 Cleric (Master Baker)
Purrtie Kittie 52 Beastlord
Finaleena Sweetwolf 51 Druid (Master Potter)
Arewen Katachan 41 Ranger
<*Prexus*>
"I'm not addicted, I swear!" *twitch*
Purrtie Kittie 52 Beastlord
Finaleena Sweetwolf 51 Druid (Master Potter)
Arewen Katachan 41 Ranger
<*Prexus*>
"I'm not addicted, I swear!" *twitch*
You got that right. I have had this item for sale as low as 100pp on Povar and it's still taking up space in my satchel. Are there no Paladins on this server or what? Look at the stats!! For 1HB weapon any Pally < 25 should have wood to the wall for this thing.
I guess it just goes to show that twinking is rampant and either this or better is just too easy to get. Selling to vendor if they will buy it.
I guess it just goes to show that twinking is rampant and either this or better is just too easy to get. Selling to vendor if they will buy it.
Actursis Nebes - 66 Ranger(EQ-idle)
Stalking the Forests in service of Karana
Sabriel - 46 Undead Mage (WoW-active)
nuke/nuke/nuke/loot
Stalking the Forests in service of Karana
Sabriel - 46 Undead Mage (WoW-active)
nuke/nuke/nuke/loot
19 posts
This is sort of like the Netherbain Chitin insedent. I sold 4 of thoses for 250+ in a manner of minutes. Now i can't find a newbie with out one or better. I being a paladin did buy this for 150pp and i thank the merchant that sold it to me.
Edited, Thu Apr 3 07:25:26 2003
Edited, Thu Apr 3 07:25:26 2003
Anderkin Paladin, Befallen
Danney Ranger (Weaponsmith), Befallen
Jorce Beserker, Befallen
Danney Ranger (Weaponsmith), Befallen
Jorce Beserker, Befallen
Is Level 53 required to equip and wield??
Please advise
Tybondoe
Please advise
Tybondoe
Recommended Level = Any lvl with proper class/race can equip, but stats are adjusted based on your level vs Recommended Level.
Required Level = Must be this level + race/class to equip.
Note also that the dmg bonus is a result of 2 factors; delay and level.
Required Level = Must be this level + race/class to equip.
Note also that the dmg bonus is a result of 2 factors; delay and level.
Actursis Nebes - 66 Ranger(EQ-idle)
Stalking the Forests in service of Karana
Sabriel - 46 Undead Mage (WoW-active)
nuke/nuke/nuke/loot
Stalking the Forests in service of Karana
Sabriel - 46 Undead Mage (WoW-active)
nuke/nuke/nuke/loot
Never mind earlier postshave answered the Question...YES. I shall look for one tonight)
Tybondoe)
Tybondoe)
no a level 1 could equip it but with negative stats
44 posts
These are going for as low as 75p on Prexus. It's unbelieveable! Wish I had a Pally :-P
Loviee Doviee 56 Cleric (Master Baker)
Purrtie Kittie 52 Beastlord
Finaleena Sweetwolf 51 Druid (Master Potter)
Arewen Katachan 41 Ranger
<*Prexus*>
"I'm not addicted, I swear!" *twitch*
Purrtie Kittie 52 Beastlord
Finaleena Sweetwolf 51 Druid (Master Potter)
Arewen Katachan 41 Ranger
<*Prexus*>
"I'm not addicted, I swear!" *twitch*
40 posts
What used to be a 10 - 15K + weapon is now 1K in our baz. Supply > Demand.
22 posts
Picked one up in the lagzaar for 100pp. Whaaatt??? Couldn't believe it.
Qedin Truespirit
Rodcet Nife
44 Pally
Qedin Truespirit
Rodcet Nife
44 Pally
Yes, these sell for ridiculously low amounts based on supply. Every time we've had an xp group in CoD, each person in the group is able to loot one and many more rot since they're lore. Everyone then sticks them on their trader mule and unloads them at a very low price, since any paladin with a CoD key has better already.
Congratulations to the younger paladins who are able to benefit from this.
Congratulations to the younger paladins who are able to benefit from this.
Muse Calliopeia the Bardess
[url=www.descendents.org]<Descendents>[/url]
Too Many Seasons on Mithaniel Marr
"I sing sometimes for the wars that I fight, 'cause every tool is a weapon if you hold it right." - Ani Difranco
[url=www.descendents.org]<Descendents>[/url]
Too Many Seasons on Mithaniel Marr
"I sing sometimes for the wars that I fight, 'cause every tool is a weapon if you hold it right." - Ani Difranco
21 posts
I'm a level 52 Pally... picked one up on Povar for a mere 500 platt... I thought they forgot to put on an extra 0 or something. at 52 the only negatives are the bonus is only 9 and the hp is only +34... I can live with that. My problem is I've never used a 1hb, my skill level was ZERO and I was hittin in the 50's the first time I used it.... COOOOOOOL
When you gaze long into the Abyss...
The Abyss gazes back into you..
..Neitzche
The Abyss gazes back into you..
..Neitzche
44 posts
Wow the bonus is cut that much for one level under the recommended. Crazy. :-P
Loviee Doviee 56 Cleric (Master Baker)
Purrtie Kittie 52 Beastlord
Finaleena Sweetwolf 51 Druid (Master Potter)
Arewen Katachan 41 Ranger
<*Prexus*>
"I'm not addicted, I swear!" *twitch*
Purrtie Kittie 52 Beastlord
Finaleena Sweetwolf 51 Druid (Master Potter)
Arewen Katachan 41 Ranger
<*Prexus*>
"I'm not addicted, I swear!" *twitch*
Hehe, same here but bought fer 375 plat, and a slightly better skill then you (16?), going to be fun raising it up!
Seems garunteed off this mob. other greater version is less common and drops ring. In about every 17 kills, one of these should drop at front. Granted, most people don't have the COD flag and that jacks this thing's price up well.
2 posts
picked up this killer for a mere 500pp on the nameless couldn't believe it, i was using a goo covered knights blade as my 1 hander but this seems like a better deal and with the damage i put out with it i won't be putting it down for a good bit.
DerpWyler
53 Cavalier
Brifectan
41 ShadowKnight
The Nameless
DerpWyler
53 Cavalier
Brifectan
41 ShadowKnight
The Nameless
Scholar
45 posts
bought this for 1500pp last night in bazaar, level 15 pally and stats are 6 dmg 25 dly for me right now but heck thats still pretty decent and beats out most of the old world items cant wait till I get higher, I love POP, sends all the prices to hell, items with half this things stats cost more.
Tomias 15 Paladin
Erolissi Marr
edited to add in it went to 7 damage at level 17 and at level 24 its 10 dmg according to the shaman that I linked it too in my group last night, awesome weap even below reccomended level
Edited, Wed Nov 27 17:24:03 2002
Tomias 15 Paladin
Erolissi Marr
edited to add in it went to 7 damage at level 17 and at level 24 its 10 dmg according to the shaman that I linked it too in my group last night, awesome weap even below reccomended level
Edited, Wed Nov 27 17:24:03 2002
This weapon is pretty damn good, especially considering it's price. On Fennin Ro I have seen 2 of these in the past few days, one for 2k and the other guy wanted 4k. Same with windblade.. it is like 15-20k on Fennin Ro. This really pisses me off becuase of you can buy a windblade which is better then epic in dmg/dly for such a low amount of pp. Also it took me more then a year to save for crappy Sword of Mourning which I got for 10k - 16/27, 10dex 50dd/proc weapon. This is 1/3 the price i paid and 3x better, wtf couldn't they have put this item in sooner or something so i coulda paid 3k and got an uber item =(. All the crap I have seen from PoP is rec lvl though so if your under the lvl it loses some major stats depending on how much lower then the lvl you are. I am glad to see verant finally implementing more weapons for paladins though, even if it is after my time. I mean sk have had a dagger similair to this one (21/24 with stats) for a LONG time. As for 1hs v 2hs I honestly can't tell the difference when I am soloing. I do about the same vs melee mobs with both my 1hs/shield and my 2hs. I mainly use my 2hs when I am soloing melee mobs though and switch to 1hs/shield so I can bash casters and also in groups to help me hold agro better if I need to.
Edited, Tue Nov 12 05:27:40 2002
Edited, Tue Nov 12 05:27:40 2002
4 posts
Got one for my Paladin for 2.5k...only 67 at 1hb but still i was hitting in to 50+ when i did hit. bashing for 50+s too..
Quite Happy with the buy,!
Edited, Tue Nov 19 18:03:21 2002
Quite Happy with the buy,!
Edited, Tue Nov 19 18:03:21 2002
This weapon can be equipped at levels lower than the recommended level. Some items can't be equipped at all until your level meets the requirement, but this is not one of them. My paladin is only 49, but he can use one of these now.
4 posts
Trov. bazaar had 5 of these for sale last night. lowest was 6k.
This item is too nice for 6k, this needs to be fixed.
OMG!! 2600 on 4 nov at 730pm in bazaar on trov. this is a terrible day.
Edited, Mon Nov 4 19:31:09 2002
This item is too nice for 6k, this needs to be fixed.
OMG!! 2600 on 4 nov at 730pm in bazaar on trov. this is a terrible day.
Edited, Mon Nov 4 19:31:09 2002
-- It's better to have beer in hand than gas in tank. --
3 posts
I agree that we do not hit very hard. With my ACGS vs a Wurmslayer and a Sarank Battle Shield I often wondered what the overall damage would be because a 1H weapon could hit so much faster. I picked up one fo these to replce my club of the ice ocean or whatever it is called. I will miss the proc but it is not something you can count on.. I mean .. WEEE when it proces 3-4 times in a fight but there have been streaches of time grinding out EXP were I get not a single proc. I'll try the odds with DMG vs. a proc. However I can bash with my shield into the 50's and that adds another attack to help make up and also against a casting mob you add another castus interruptus (to speak Roadrunner lol) and another round where your victim is not whacking on you.
Depends on the situation, I think it is foolish to say one is better or worse in any situation. I have picked on of these up at 53 and yes I bought it. Can't wait to try it out.
Aggador Spartakus
Cavalier of the 53rd season
Guardians of Forever
Saryn Server
Depends on the situation, I think it is foolish to say one is better or worse in any situation. I have picked on of these up at 53 and yes I bought it. Can't wait to try it out.
Aggador Spartakus
Cavalier of the 53rd season
Guardians of Forever
Saryn Server
12 posts
Yes please keep flaming this weapon i want one cheap =P. I was for a long time after the darkmetal falchion or Jeldorin. But now i'm going after this one. Another thing ppl just don't realize is paladins have some cool ass proc spells when you swing more and bash your chances of getting a proc off are much better, and with slay undead you would be a machine.
10 posts
this hammer is nice for a lev 53 paladin ,but for PoP its a crap item .
Face it , its a tier2 plane , if you come to this place and need this hammer as an UPGRADE you are prolly total wrong here .
The only way a lev 53 can get this item is from buying on market or getting from a friend .
There is no way a group/raid of lev 53th would be able to take the mob .
So this leaves the hammer just as an trade item , like most of the other droppable stuff in poP .
Maybe they made it to compensate the missing of pp drops of the mobs .
Lev 53 really should hunt in Karnor or Sebilis ,if you just hang in a 60+ group you just would get Powerleveled , and wouldnt be a great assist to the group .
Sir Magmel , 62th Crusader Quellious
Face it , its a tier2 plane , if you come to this place and need this hammer as an UPGRADE you are prolly total wrong here .
The only way a lev 53 can get this item is from buying on market or getting from a friend .
There is no way a group/raid of lev 53th would be able to take the mob .
So this leaves the hammer just as an trade item , like most of the other droppable stuff in poP .
Maybe they made it to compensate the missing of pp drops of the mobs .
Lev 53 really should hunt in Karnor or Sebilis ,if you just hang in a 60+ group you just would get Powerleveled , and wouldnt be a great assist to the group .
Sir Magmel , 62th Crusader Quellious
2 posts
Picked one up for about 10kpp on E'ci. I tested it a little while soloing exp mobs in burning woods vs. Argent Protector and I swear this thing seemed to outdamaged AP! I was using Sash of the dragonborn (24%) and Valor of marr (25%) for haste, and Shield of the stalwart seas for a shield.
Has a great look, I havent seen another graphic like it yet. Looks like a medium-sized footman's mace, bright silver, with etched engravings. For now, I'm very happy with this weapon.
Edited, Fri Nov 1 12:21:58 2002
Has a great look, I havent seen another graphic like it yet. Looks like a medium-sized footman's mace, bright silver, with etched engravings. For now, I'm very happy with this weapon.
Edited, Fri Nov 1 12:21:58 2002
Vorgus, 53 Cavalier
E'ci
E'ci
Scholar
25 posts
Actually, you'll find that 1handed weapons, combined with a high-AC shield, will outdamage even nice 2handed weapons even into the low 50's.
For example, I currently wield a Black Acrylia Halberd (40/48, 4 magic damage, proc lifetap). According to my parses I put out about 20 - 22 damage per second vs xp mobs, at level 53.
According to a damage calculator, I would probably produce about 24 - 25 DPS vs the same mobs with this mace and a Sarnak Battle Shield. Plus I'd have higher str, wis, sta, hp, AC and saves.
EQ is fast becoming a thinking mans game. Those who parrot the statements of others are bound to end up behind the curve.
For example, I currently wield a Black Acrylia Halberd (40/48, 4 magic damage, proc lifetap). According to my parses I put out about 20 - 22 damage per second vs xp mobs, at level 53.
According to a damage calculator, I would probably produce about 24 - 25 DPS vs the same mobs with this mace and a Sarnak Battle Shield. Plus I'd have higher str, wis, sta, hp, AC and saves.
EQ is fast becoming a thinking mans game. Those who parrot the statements of others are bound to end up behind the curve.
Aragir Lancot
Veteran of the Storm
Xegony
Veteran of the Storm
Xegony
#Fyrewalker,
Posted: Nov 01 2002 at 12:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A thinking *person*'s game -- lets not be sexist.
14 posts
I dont see how anyone can flame this weapon ROCKS and hasa GODLY ratio to it. Also I think its idoitic to say pally should stick to 2 handers liek saying a SK should as well, Shadowknights and palladins are the most versatile char in the game and is the whole reason the best hybrid chars in the game Myself included Carrys several versions of each weapon , I keep a good 1 hander with a sweet proc, I keep a 1 hander thats ROCKIN dmg ratio like this when all I am worried about is my DPS and killing the hell out of somthing but i need hte Bash and AC to maybe STUN a caster from CHing or other spells that could whip out a group , and i carry my aresnal of 2 handers for every situation my black acrylia halberd for most of them now since luclin P:
but to say there is no reason for a Pally to use this weapon is STOOPID!!
Vaylgar Xu'Drizzledon
Reaver
Emarr server
but to say there is no reason for a Pally to use this weapon is STOOPID!!
Vaylgar Xu'Drizzledon
Reaver
Emarr server
Its only Blue...
/ooc Paying for a res!!
61 Baron Grave Lord Dark Elf
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=400268
/ooc Paying for a res!!
61 Baron Grave Lord Dark Elf
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=400268
Actually, technically it only has an Amazing Ratio. Lets call a spade a spade.
l33t pwn'in since '82
24 posts
Haha, this weapon = junk, if you ever want to do acceptable dps. A argent protector from kunark will easily outdamage this, using 1hers makes no sense for a non roleplaying paladin in 99% of all situations.
40 posts
If all things were equal between the sword-swinging classes, then yes, 2h would be the perfect solution for knight 99% of the time, but I'm gonna let you in a little secret.
We can't hit for beans.
No, really. Compared to other melee classes, our hit/miss ratio is pretty crummy. Slow weapons= less hits. High ratio 1h weapons make up for that in sheer seed and reasonable damage. They're also a lot easier to train up, since they're nice and fast. Slower, heavier 2H weapons are nice for situations where you need decent damage output without having to worry about gaining aggro, that's what I use my Protector for. 1:1 and better ratio weapons (Whether 1h or 2h) aren't ideal for situations where your guild is relying on a MT.
We can deal a decent amount of damage with our slower 2h'ers while still being able to fire off stuns and other hate-mongering spells, which is a definite plus when fighting caster NPCs in a raid situation, or we can switch to fast-swinging quick-succession 1:1 ratio 1-hand weapons and carve stuff up something fierce. Hitting for 100+ on a <=30 delay weapon works just fine for DMG output in most situations, since the 2h weaps hit for under 100 a great deal anyway. Why wait to get the same hit? :)
If the organization or grammar sucks a bit, I'm sorry, just came off of 8 hours of binge-raiding and I'm seriously tired :)
We can't hit for beans.
No, really. Compared to other melee classes, our hit/miss ratio is pretty crummy. Slow weapons= less hits. High ratio 1h weapons make up for that in sheer seed and reasonable damage. They're also a lot easier to train up, since they're nice and fast. Slower, heavier 2H weapons are nice for situations where you need decent damage output without having to worry about gaining aggro, that's what I use my Protector for. 1:1 and better ratio weapons (Whether 1h or 2h) aren't ideal for situations where your guild is relying on a MT.
We can deal a decent amount of damage with our slower 2h'ers while still being able to fire off stuns and other hate-mongering spells, which is a definite plus when fighting caster NPCs in a raid situation, or we can switch to fast-swinging quick-succession 1:1 ratio 1-hand weapons and carve stuff up something fierce. Hitting for 100+ on a <=30 delay weapon works just fine for DMG output in most situations, since the 2h weaps hit for under 100 a great deal anyway. Why wait to get the same hit? :)
If the organization or grammar sucks a bit, I'm sorry, just came off of 8 hours of binge-raiding and I'm seriously tired :)
Fanon Faythunder
65th Paladin of Tunare
<Caelestis Ignis>
Erollisi Marr
65th Paladin of Tunare
<Caelestis Ignis>
Erollisi Marr
Scholar
48 posts
I couldn't agree with your post more. I am a 51 pally with a dex of around 143 and 2hs maxed and at best connect 35% of the time. This used to bug the heck out of me because I often group with a high-damage output ranger, and felt I was being ridiculously out-meleed, but I have come to understand a pally's role as hit-taker and stunner better. I initially thought since I am not hitting as much, I should hit for as much as possible when I do connect, which is somewhat true, but I find that a lower delay makes a huge difference in making up for misses, more than the higher damage would.
This weapon is going for as low as 900pp on Morell-Thule and we'll probably go lower. It's almost the 1hb equivalent to the weighty polearm, a great weapon for the money. Good luck noble Paladins.
-Hallvard Leonidas <Disciples of Discipline>
This weapon is going for as low as 900pp on Morell-Thule and we'll probably go lower. It's almost the 1hb equivalent to the weighty polearm, a great weapon for the money. Good luck noble Paladins.
-Hallvard Leonidas <Disciples of Discipline>
"Cigarettes, souvenirs, party tricks...."
4 posts
i just got this 2 days ago. 1hb was at 99 and i got it to 180 in a few (maybe 6) hours. As a paladin, when i main tank, i put my 2hs away and get out my shield (for bash and AC) and 1 hander. This weapon is sweet. It hits hard and fast and no mater how you flame this weapon it kicks arse. As far not making sence in 99% of situations, thats just crazy. in a zone like UP where pick-up groups are the norm i main tank most of the time and in that situation AC is most important.
'Haha, this weapon = junk' --> you are insane.
'Haha, this weapon = junk' --> you are insane.
-- It's better to have beer in hand than gas in tank. --
#oogha,
Posted: Oct 30 2002 at 3:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) how many paladins do u know that have a high 1hb skill?
Stave of shielding is a pretty good mid level 1hb for pally, as is the rod of faith. If you got your hands on either of those, early on, you'd have decent 1hb when you got this.
Plus, with centi warhammer selling for 50pp, what newbie untwinked pally wouldn't want one.
Plus, with centi warhammer selling for 50pp, what newbie untwinked pally wouldn't want one.
47 posts
First off, since when does a weapons skill stop anyone from using it? It's not like it takes that long to get a skill decent. Not to mention just about everyone has a ton of practices.
All that said, just about any Paladin who went to Plane of Hate when it opened, for that matter for a long time after, has high 1h blunt skill. For a long time, the Darkmetal Holy Water Sprinkler was the best 1h weapon for Paladins. Basically until Kunark opened this was the case. Plane of Hate was around long before Kunark. I know my old Paladin I quit 2 years ago had maxed 1h blunt skill, 1h slash, 2h blunt, and 2h slash. You know why 1h blunt, 1h slash is a no brainer, 2h blunt Rod of Mourning, 2h slash also a no brainer. So in the life my Paladin he had tons of reasons to use every kind of weapon, and he had no problem getting them all maxed.
All that said, just about any Paladin who went to Plane of Hate when it opened, for that matter for a long time after, has high 1h blunt skill. For a long time, the Darkmetal Holy Water Sprinkler was the best 1h weapon for Paladins. Basically until Kunark opened this was the case. Plane of Hate was around long before Kunark. I know my old Paladin I quit 2 years ago had maxed 1h blunt skill, 1h slash, 2h blunt, and 2h slash. You know why 1h blunt, 1h slash is a no brainer, 2h blunt Rod of Mourning, 2h slash also a no brainer. So in the life my Paladin he had tons of reasons to use every kind of weapon, and he had no problem getting them all maxed.
Salerdar 60 Human Warrior 300 gob eng/ench
Dino 60 Gnome Rogue 315 gnome eng/miner
Garona <Apex>
Dino 60 Gnome Rogue 315 gnome eng/miner
Garona <Apex>
So far this is the second 1b weapon I have seen in PoP and boy are they nice, the other is a 24/29 with +3 Disease dmg...
/drool
/drool
Hey, if it's paladin only you know it has to be good. Seems like VI has been trying to "ballance" paladins for the last year or so by giving them outrageous weapons. For a class that is suppose to do 3/4th of the damage of a warrior, seems like they do a heck of a lot more damage than any MT that's had equal access to the same upper end of the game loot.
Meirril, Fennin Ro
LOL, this is an outrageous weap?
real damage is in 2handers of which high end ones have a better than even ratio (and are usually useable buy war/pal/sk).
Paladins/SKs have had simliar 1 handers since Kunark to compensate for the fact they can only weild ONE at a time, they get a nice ratio.
So duel weilding 12/18 weaps wouldnt equate to equal or greater damage?
Sorry Meirril, cant agree with any of the misinfo you have posted there.
real damage is in 2handers of which high end ones have a better than even ratio (and are usually useable buy war/pal/sk).
Paladins/SKs have had simliar 1 handers since Kunark to compensate for the fact they can only weild ONE at a time, they get a nice ratio.
So duel weilding 12/18 weaps wouldnt equate to equal or greater damage?
Sorry Meirril, cant agree with any of the misinfo you have posted there.
Duke Quaan Vilesilencer
Maelin Starpyre
Maelin Starpyre
56dmg 45dly 2H weapons arent uncommon
neither are 25dmg 23dly 1H weapons
So overall this is hardly outrageous but still great for someone that doesnt have the time for be in a large guild or thats only in a "family" guild that remains small amonst only the closest friends and therefore cant take out the larger mobs.
overall very nice :D
neither are 25dmg 23dly 1H weapons
So overall this is hardly outrageous but still great for someone that doesnt have the time for be in a large guild or thats only in a "family" guild that remains small amonst only the closest friends and therefore cant take out the larger mobs.
overall very nice :D
5 posts
Care to name these weapons, Venchantra? There are no 25/23 paladin usable weapons that I'm aware of in the game at all, nor is there a 56/45. In fact, the highest dmg on a 2 hander I'm aware of is 53.
The fact of the matter is that this is the 4th best ratio 1hb in the game for paladins currently (I believe for anyone, actually). A spot held by the Mournfollow in the 2hb department.
Compared to 1hs weapons, this mace's 1.190 ratio ranks it just under the Acrylia Handled Broadsword (1.187 ratio from our friend Emperor Ssraeshza, you know, the big ugly snake in Temple of Ssraeshza's attic). Meaning: this weapon puts out nearly the damage of a drop from Emperor Ssraeshza, arguably the hardest mob to kill in the entire Luclin expansion (a case could be made that Lord Inquisitor Seru is pretty tough, too, though).
So, if this weapon is "ok" for the "family" player, would you mind defining what you consider a "decent" weapon? Color me confused!
The fact of the matter is that this is the 4th best ratio 1hb in the game for paladins currently (I believe for anyone, actually). A spot held by the Mournfollow in the 2hb department.
Compared to 1hs weapons, this mace's 1.190 ratio ranks it just under the Acrylia Handled Broadsword (1.187 ratio from our friend Emperor Ssraeshza, you know, the big ugly snake in Temple of Ssraeshza's attic). Meaning: this weapon puts out nearly the damage of a drop from Emperor Ssraeshza, arguably the hardest mob to kill in the entire Luclin expansion (a case could be made that Lord Inquisitor Seru is pretty tough, too, though).
So, if this weapon is "ok" for the "family" player, would you mind defining what you consider a "decent" weapon? Color me confused!