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Slot: FACE
AC: 3
STA: +3 WIS: +3 INT: +3 HP: +10 MANA: +10
SV MAGIC: +3
Focus: Spell Haste II
WT: 0.6 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Armor
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Updated By:Silfh V'Ester & Mahlah Tohsis
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Ruins of Kunark Item
Planes of Power Item


Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 30

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RE: so many spell haste items
# Nov 24 2002 at 7:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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You're pretty much correct, but I thought I would extrude.

Spell Haste I and Spell Haste II have essentially the same effect, the only difference is the minimum casting time, and the level of spell it will affect. Spell Haste I affects only spells 20 and under, and only if they have a casting time greater than 1 second. Spell Haste II only affects spells level 44 and under and only if they have a casting time greater than 2 seconds. But otherwise, they both still reduce the spell's casting time by 15%.

If you have both, they won't reduce casting times by 15%, then another 15%. It will affect the spells if they fit in the catagories correctly. Like if your lvl 15 spell had a casting time of 1.5 and you only had Spell Haste II, it wouldn't work on it. I think this is because, in theory, new spells often take longer to cast as you get higher in level, so they restrict it to the higher level spells somewhat, but it would still affect the spell if it had a casting time greater than 2 seconds. What I'm getting at is not that it's only the higher-level effect works, it's that the spell needs to fit into the right catagory to work. So, say you had Spell Haste II already and a bunch of spells from level 20 and under that had casting times between 1 and 2 seconds, Spell Haste I would be actually worth adding, if you came across an item with it; not that it'll stack, but it'll overlap and affect the spells that aren't affected by Spell Haste II.

Now when it comes to specialized haste focus effects, the higher haste takes precidence. For example, Enhancement Haste cuts the cast time down by 30%, and the non-specialized Spell Haste reduces it by 15%. Your spells that fit in with the restrictions of both will only work with Enhancement Haste.

And as for Spell Haste, Mana Preservation, Extended Affliction, what have you, they affect different aspects of spell casting, so they will stack. Spell Haste reduces casting time, Mana Preservation reduces spell cost and Extended Affliction makes affliction-type spells (DoTs, snares, roots) last longer, so a spell will use each focus effect if the restrictions of each focus effect will fit with the spell you're casting.

I originally thought the same thing about Focus Effects; that the only difference was the range of spells they worked on (the I, II, III and IV) but I noticed that the minimum casting time is different for the different stages of focus effects.

Anyway, probably longer than this needed to be, but I'm tired and felt like rambling on, lol. Hope this helps someone :)

Edited, Sun Nov 24 07:44:26 2002
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Daebin Ghelaric - 57 Human Outrider
Maurill Dillemma - 35 Wood Elf Druid
Cassilia Hyades - 35 High Elf Cleric
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RE: so many spell haste items
# Dec 29 2002 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Excellent post Daebin. I have played only melee's so far, and I just started a Druid. I gave him Cougar Claw earrings and a Fine Antique Ring, and always wondered why the mana preservation I from the earrings was being used instead of the mana preservation II from the ring (he's just level 5). I almost sold the earrings because of that, would have been a shame.
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RE: so many spell haste items
# Jan 21 2003 at 6:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I think you missed something in Daebin's post.. In your case, either of your mana preservation items will work equally well at your level. Selling that earring would be fine since you have the Mana Pres. II ring to fall back on. They are both -10% to mana cost for all spells (except probably CHeal), but the MP2 item will work up to level 44 spells, where as the MP1 will only work on spells up to level 20. The only focus that actually changes its effect is the spell haste, which he explained. All the other focuses are consistant in their effects and only affect a different range of spell levels. Try taking off the earring and you will see the ring activate when you cast.

Note:
Focus I: spell levels 1-20
Focus II: spell levels 1-44
Focus III: spell levels 1-60
Focus IV: spell levels 1-65
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RE: so many spell haste items
# Feb 10 2003 at 7:50 PM Rating: Default
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While it's true that you could have fallen back on the one ring instead of the other, what my other post was really talking about how certain focus effect limitations aren't _exactly_ the same for each level of the effect. The level of spells a focus effect will work on aren't always the only restrictions. Here's a specific example, using this druid that posted above:

Say the Druid has Spell Haste I and II in effect (instead of Mana Preservation). Spell Haste I will only work on spells up to level 20, and Spell Haste II will work on spells up to level 44. However, there is another restriction that many people overlook. Each have different minimum casting time requirements.

Spell Haste II has a minimum casting time requirement of 2.0 seconds for it to work, and Spell Haste I has a minimum casting time requirement of 1.0 seconds. If the Druid has Spell Haste II only and tries to cast Burst of Flame, which has a casting time of 1.5 seconds (not meeting the requirement of Spell Haste II of 2.0 seconds minimum), the Spell Haste won't go off. That's why some in some cases, different levels of the same effect are useful.

However, Mana Preservation doesn't have any other restrictions other than level (that and CHeal is excluded), like there's no minimum mana cost that's different for each focus level, so you are right that the selling the earring wouldn't make a difference.

Edited, Mon Feb 10 19:20:42 2003
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Daebin Ghelaric - 57 Human Outrider
Maurill Dillemma - 35 Wood Elf Druid
Cassilia Hyades - 35 High Elf Cleric
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