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Obulus Death Shroud  

AC: 10
STR: +3 STA: +5 WIS: +3 MANA: +25
Focus: Mana Preservation III
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Armor
Merchant Value:100 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Submitted By:Lothax Soultwister
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Updated By:Oxgoad
Updated:Wed Dec 14th, 2016
Ruins of Kunark Item

Average Price: 10,000pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Uncommon
Level to Attain: 50

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Dropped of Bok Night?
# Oct 14 2005 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
One my way to Broog i got ODS off a bok knight as of 10/10/05. I double checked cause i have seen them drop from dar knights. did they change drop? or was i dreaming?
Days of yore!
# Oct 04 2005 at 10:26 PM Rating: Default
150 posts
Remember I had onen of these laying on an alt. Looted it from OS in the old days good before Velious.

I was kinda happy when they added the focus effect. Used it for a while and then sold it for hefty money.
# May 25 2004 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
Plowed from entrance to the Prymid, then plowed to Disco, killed Disco areas 1 and 2, 2 times and no Obulus Death Shroud drop. Probably killed 20 to 30 Froglok Dar Knights is it possible that the only Dar Knight that drops the ODS is the one at entrance?
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RE: Drops
# Feb 18 2005 at 2:32 AM Rating: Default
532 posts
It's a kunark thing. Solist's Wand, Bracer of the Hidden, Sibilizan berserker cloak, Obulus Death Shroud, RBG. All of these things drop off crap mobs but they only drop like 1 in 500 mobs or less. Kinda like the neck items in Natimbi...

Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)
first mob killed
# Apr 27 2004 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
Went into seb about 3months back w my shaman botting my ranger and first mob i killed at ent dropped this goody....shear luck considering ive cleared zone once before and gotten only a crappy staff to drop and junk spells.

Can happen though.... just gotta try.
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% of drop ?
# Feb 04 2004 at 3:23 AM Rating: Default
4 posts
What is the % that a dar knight well drop this ?? Can anyone tell me please ! And whats the min level to get this item?? Thanks <(*.*)>
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#manicus, Posted: Feb 17 2004 at 9:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) almost never being taht there are few in bazaar at oen time and taht the mob pops at ent and to get in past the ent he gets killed. i soloed them at about lvl 53 and taht was the pair of the 2 at ent so with a grp its easyer.
RE: % of drop ?
# Apr 12 2004 at 7:40 PM Rating: Default
spell check
RE: % of drop ?
# Aug 18 2004 at 12:14 AM Rating: Default
6 posts
Spell currently camped, come back later.
Price jump
# Dec 16 2003 at 3:44 AM Rating: Good
124 posts
I picked mine up a few months back on Fennin Ro. I waited til someone was selling one for 5-6K. Last night, there was someone in the bazaar begging to buy one for 15K and no one would sell one. I did a search on it and the prices were all over 22K!
RE: Price jump
# Jan 07 2004 at 8:42 PM Rating: Excellent
64 posts
Aye after the plat cheat prices went up, slowly coming down.

Got one off of Froglok Bok Wizard(at platform after cages before chef/bar) as well as the Dar Knight if you hunting it in OS instead of Bazaar.
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#ahuzuredan, Posted: Nov 07 2003 at 10:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) WOHOOO! Awesome! I got mine on Vallon Zek in the bazaar for 10k last night. I think it will be a fine accessory for my level 17 Enchanter. I got on my horse and chain casted several spells that normally leave me out of mana quickly to find that I still had plenty! This item is amazing, and I am very pleased that I made this purchase.
Want one on Inny
# Oct 28 2003 at 4:58 PM Rating: Default
27 posts
I am looking to get one of these on Inny Server.

I have an Ikky BP and some other items for trade.

Send me a message in game if you have one to trade.
# Sep 07 2003 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
124 posts
Any reason this doesn't kick in on ports? I get the shimmering message on nearly every spell (except those covered by another focus item) but nothing on ports!
# Nov 17 2003 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
This actually does work with Port (and Gate), but you do not see the effect because it happens right after you begin to zone, but before you actually arrive at your destination, as your system is loading.
knights not all..
# May 24 2003 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
34 posts
Knights arent all that can drop it, i know this to be true because mine came off a shaman.

i remember the exact moment it dropped, shaman adds, chanter mezes, wizzie nukes i get malaise, proceed to be ****** and nuke its *** off, reach down and boom there it was. I was shocked, i even took a pic somewhere, i am 100% positive the knights arent all that drop it. Unless vi just freaked out and said here take the **** thing...
stacks with spell casting mastery?
# May 05 2003 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
Will mana prev 3 stack with AA ability 'spell casting mastery' pls?

Slightly off topic - My thinking is that 'spell casting mastery' has a 'chance' to reduce mana cost of spell by 5pct, etc up to 30pct - any1 know the 'chance' pct pls?

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RE: stacks with spell casting mastery?
# May 14 2003 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
658 posts
MPIII items and SCM stack, but there is probably an overall cap on how much mana can be saved by AAs and focus items combined (it definitely works this way for Extended Enhancement items and SCR).

SCM always saves mana, with each and every cast. Just like caster specialization, VI/SOE says one thing, the reality is another.
RE: stacks with spell casting mastery?
# Aug 26 2003 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
73 posts
Think of AA's are a sort of "Innate" improvement, meaning that they'll stack with one item and one spell of similar kind.

For example, if you had spell haste AA, the mage ring (15% casting time reduction), and Blessing of Reverence, theoretically it would all stack.
RE: stacks with spell casting mastery?
# Nov 19 2003 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
20 posts
Both in theory and in practice, they stack :)
Lucky drop
# Apr 22 2003 at 7:39 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
Dar knight right at the entrance dropped one of these for me this weekend. Wow lucky drop indeed!!!
RE: Lucky drop
# Aug 26 2003 at 2:27 PM Rating: Decent
Same Here had one drop it from the 2 frogs at the entrance! I dodn't know that this uber item dropped off such a common mob. Albiet rare as it is I was quiet surprised and my guilds shammy is definetly a friend for life. They sell for 8-10K on Povar. Guess this explains why the late nights are camped and the zone is full of 63+ toons.
Grrrrr where at ..?
# Apr 22 2003 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
87 posts
We have spent lot lot lot of time in Seb, usually camp NG, and we never looted one of these Smiley: cry
Killed thousand and thousand Dar knight and any others Forggy in there and NOT A Obulus ! Larikan's mask, yes, Lamentation yes, Gems Oh Yess ! but Obulus...
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will it work on a 37 cleric?
# Mar 04 2003 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
4 posts
So will this work on my 37 cleric or not? I see that it affects spells up to lvl 60, but does it only affects spells lvl 44+?

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RE: will it work on a 37 cleric?
# Mar 09 2003 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
Works on all spells, level 60 and below, with the exception of complete heal and percentage heals.
RE: will it work on a 37 cleric?
# Mar 12 2003 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
k, thanks
Does the Foci stack
# Feb 21 2003 at 4:08 PM Rating: Default
19 posts
Does the Focus Effect stack with the Affliction Efficiency line? If it did, that's an addition 10% savings on the cost to cast a spell.
RE: Does the Foci stack
# Feb 21 2003 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
No. Focus items do not stack when they affect the same attribute, that is, you can't have two mana preserving focus effects at the same time.

Of course, my wizzy has spell haste, mana preservation, and improved damage items, so he can cast a nuke faster, with less mana, and it'll hit harder. Those focus items all affect different attributes.
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Drop Confirmation
# Jan 06 2003 at 7:06 PM Rating: Decent
66 posts
Our group had one of these drop last night in SEB around NG, as Larrikin Mask and numerous gems.

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RE: Drop Confirmation
# Jan 24 2003 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
Dropped off the third mob into the zone (a Dar Knight). Won the roll. A nice upgrade to Adamantite Epaulets. I've spent a lot of time in this zone and probably killed hundreds of Dar knights and this is the first one I've seen drop.
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# Dec 29 2002 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
Heh, I (49 nec)got my key this morning for Seb....went in with a full guildy group and sat around for a few kills. I then gated out cause my friend (51 mage) got on and didn't have a I went and helped her get the stuff for one. Got back to Seb couple hours later and no one in zone. The two pops at door where a night and a wizard. Mezz pulled knight and kept mezzing wizard whenever he agro'ed. It was a hard fight for our pets and all.

Searched the wiz first and I saw the ODS their. Spammed the Guildchat a bit with OMG cause this was my first really nice find (unless you count a runed mithral bracelet in solb). First pull in zone, I like this place now.
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Not just Dar Knights...
# Nov 28 2002 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
17 posts
Have seen 2 drop in Seb and neither came off a dar knight. First was off an Ilis Wizard, second was off a Krup Knight. Not common by any means, but have gotten 2 to drop on last 3 trips to Seb.
11k I wish
# Oct 05 2002 at 11:04 PM Rating: Decent
3 posts
I am not sure where these prices came from, maybe our sever is messed up. I rarely see these for sell and when they are, its for 20-30k. Would love to see one for 11k. but have one and love mine. so guess its worth what u are willing to pay
RE: 11k I wish
# May 07 2003 at 8:36 PM Rating: Default
64 posts
this item went from 10k to 20k when the focus item was added...
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RE: 11k I wish
# Oct 30 2002 at 3:09 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
This price also includes many prices from before the Focus Effect patch... the value of this increased tremendously when they put Mana Preservation III on it.
RE: 11k I wish
# Nov 29 2002 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
129 posts
The prices sank alot prior to POP and then suddenly inflated when people found that mpres 4 items were not so common.
# Sep 23 2002 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
Oh I forgot to mention...

Obvisouly the BA Medallion will not help any spells over 44. So your ODS will do those, while the BA Medallion will do the ones under 44.

Spiritist of Cazic-Thule
RE: add...
# Jan 09 2003 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
Actually, no. The higher ranked focus item is always the one used. So if you have the ODS you may as well sell your BA Med unless you need the other stats on it.
RE: add...
# Jan 27 2003 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
35 posts
If you are wearing both, the lesser one (i.e. MP 2 item) will fire a msg for spells under lvl 44 while the greater (i.e. MP 3 item) will fire for spells 45 - 60 . My beastlord wears items with both MP 2 and MP 3 and this is how it occurs on her.
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RE: add...
# Jul 01 2003 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
54 posts
Well yeah, but the mana preservation III will work for all spells... I think that was the point that the original poster was trying to make, that you dont need an MP II item that exclusively works for 20-44 and an MP III item that exclusively works for 45-60.
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BA Medallion
# Sep 23 2002 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
Hey no worries on the medallion - the percentage is the same... You save the same amount of mana. The difference is the level of spells - and the BA Medallion was 'able' to work for the spells you were casting, so it did the focus effect.

If you had taken off the BA Medallion, the ODS would have done it.

Spiritist of Cazic-Thule
# Sep 20 2002 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
I bought this item off a friend that got it in a trade before the focus was added. i bought it off of them for 10k when the going rate on TP was over 18k :). i LOVE it i was at the time a lvl 56 druid with 245wis. that very night my firend and a few others, including a lvl 59 druid with 255 wis and a much bigger mana pool then mine whent to FG for the first time and we only had one cleric. our cleric died about 10secs into the first pull and me and the other druid were left as the healers. at the time the other druid yelled OOM i notcied i was still at 40%. if not for my ODS our group would not have lived the trip. say what you want about this item but it ROCKS and i do not belive it is only 10% mana save like eveyone says.

only issue i ever had with this item is (yeah point and laugh at me) i was using a black alloy madallion at the time and for some really strange reason on my lower lvl spells it was over riding my ODS /shrug. so as a wearning dont try to stack these 2 items.

about a week after i got this time a lvl 60 druid that i had know since our 30's actually pointed and laughed at me for buying one but about a week later he send me a tell and asked me if i knew where he could get one at :).

lvl 60 druid

Edited, Fri Sep 20 09:44:01 2002
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# Jan 09 2003 at 10:15 PM Rating: Good
10 posts
The savings come out of the mana you USE, not your total mana. If you have 6,000 mana, your actually going to save 10% mana on that extra 600 points everyone is talking about in this thread.

If you were able to use every point of mana, then you'd find that you were able to cast about 667 points extra from a pool of 6,000 mana for a total of 6667 mana.
[6000*.1=600 600*.1=60 60*.1=6 6*.1=.6

Also remember that, for the purpose of these calculations mana generating items increase the available mana pool. When you expend that generated mana, you get the same savings. So if durring an encounter you get an extra 1200 mana from mind buffs, canabalize or whatever, you can add an additional 133 mana savings after you use this additional mana.

So 6000 original mana with 1200 generated mana gets you about 800 additional mana in savings for the conflict.

{note: Some complex mathmatics can be employed to calculate the savings. However, EQ is a game for all ages and technical levels. Intuitivly multiplying out the savings is simple and fast enough. For this reason, I did not include any formulas, feeling the examples provided were enough. The numbers used were plucked from this discussion. My character has no where near this much mana, and thus my personal savings are proportionatly less than those stated.}

-- message edited for typing errors.

Edited, Tue Apr 29 00:27:37 2003
Price in Bazaar
# Aug 21 2002 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
Saw this being sold in Bazaar in Morell Thule recently for about 15k (may have been 12k, not too certain).

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RE: Price in Bazaar
# Aug 22 2002 at 2:43 AM Rating: Decent
627 posts
Similar price on The Nameless. Usually hovers around 15k. *Somehow* one of the traders put it up for 1350. Maybe he missed a zero.. who knows.. I grabbed it and transferred the item over to my druid. I havent tested it much since I just got it but it looks like my nukes, damage shields, and sow fall under the MP3 focus.
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At what level does the MP effect proc?
# Aug 20 2002 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
3 posts
What level do you have to be for the mana preservation effect to work? Thanks for info.

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RE: At what level does the MP effect proc?
# Aug 21 2002 at 5:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Focus effects are not procs. They're permanent. They also work on any lvl character. The difference in focus levels are what spells they affect. Focus level I is up to ~22nd, focus II is up to 44th (I have a few of these) and focus III is all spell levels. This item will cause all spells to cost 10% less (other than specifically designated spells, such as Complete Heal which is not affected by any focus to my knowledge)
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RE: At what level does the MP effect proc?
# Dec 17 2002 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
77 posts
actually, focus III is up to level 60. for any spells over 60, you'll need a focus IV item (up to lvl 65, i believe only found in PoP). but focus III is about as high as you can twink.
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#milerunner, Posted: Aug 19 2002 at 11:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Get a Death Watchers Shroud, and or a Weight of the gods from POA, or the 8th shawl,.. personally id love all three of those , the POA for the huge magic resist and extra 20m more than the DWS, and the 8th shawl because well its the 8th shawl.. currently im wearing Death watchers. its fek uber and Fek all you feks that dont have it, hahaha! fek you ODS wearing pansies. :D DWS, CLR DRU SHM , worth it best dropable item without a stupid 10% effect haha look it up sometime slowpokies.
#Brakiss, Posted: Sep 07 2002 at 12:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Tue Oct 15 06:12:46 2002
#Ssomeone, Posted: Aug 10 2002 at 5:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This thing blows, it should be worth 3k at most, on rodcet its like 8k.
RE: This thing Blows!
# Aug 13 2002 at 4:00 AM Rating: Good
118 posts
I'm sorry but you must either not be a caster or unaware of what mana preservation III does. I think ANY caster int and wis after 50 or so would want one until they can get into the REALLY high lvl zones, and some dont have the guild or time to, so quit trashing a great item.
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RE: This thing Blows!
# Aug 18 2002 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
8k? you're lucky on rodcet =P
on terris thule they're being sold for 12k
i want one =0
#Pearlay, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 5:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I saw ODS in Bazaar channel 7K other day, there Not that Expencive, ONlY 10% to mana preservation. Less you use a High Cost lvl 60 Spell your Not getting Much benifit from it Specialy when you can Get Mage to Summon a Better item for Free. And they 2 itmes Dotn Stack Only One will trigger at time.
# May 24 2003 at 12:31 AM Rating: Decent
34 posts
Only 10%? to put into perspective what he just said, lets look at how much 10% actually matters..

only 10% of rangers die every day...(how many times you seen that happen)

only 10% of summons result in a casters death (seen that a lot too)

only 10% of the mobs in loy arent under cons (/shiver)

that only 10% ONLY makes a live saving event bout once a day lol.

that may be exagerated, but wearing this over somethin with a little better stats is worth the saved hardship of trying to find a cleric at 3 am.

think about it, winged death takes me 350mana, snare takes me 35 mana..thats the 10%, that 10% can save my life from an add in a bad siuation, and given the right situation that 10% could leave me enough to evac your sorry ***.

case dismissed you lose ONLY and 10% dont go togehter goodbye

Edited, Sat May 24 00:50:50 2003
# Jan 11 2003 at 2:08 AM Rating: Decent
ONLY 10 percent???? WTF is this ONLY crap? Last time I checked, 10% less mana was a **** load less than 0% less mana. Put down the crackpipe and come back to the real world. "only 10 percent" that has got to be one of the dumbest things i've ever heard.

Even rangers should like this item if they utalize their spell line.

"only 10 percent"

you might as well have said "the ODS is bad because of lbadkhjadfjajhq2304372akmehfadh" It would have made the same amount of sense.
# Oct 31 2002 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
Is amazing how many people post stuff on the boards trying to sound like they know what they are talking about when its obvious they don't. I am a ranger myself and wouldn't dare to say I know all about priest classes.
# Aug 19 2002 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
11 posts
hte mage summoned earring does in fact have a better % of mana conservation ( 15% ) but it only affects DD spells. this item affects all spells and so it is much more valuable. it should also be noted that the effect on this stacks with the effect from the AA Spell Casting Mastery.

Edited, Mon Aug 19 08:33:25 2002
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# Aug 08 2002 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
52 posts
Not much benefit??? Well since you're a ranger, you probably wouldn't.... but as a cleric this helps immensely, as we constantly are casting heal spells, buffs, etc etc. ONLY 10% conservation of mana??? Since at lvl 60 my mana pool is about 3500, that would save me 350 mana if I were to cast until I am OOM. So basically, we have a 350 mana item in the shoulder slot with the obulus death shroud. You're crazy if you think anything a mage can summon is better than this (no offense, mages).
# Oct 25 2002 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
33 posts
Well, its actually better than +350 mana. Since you only use 90% of the mana, you only need 90% of the time to recover. So if your mana regen rate is 15/tick, this is like a FT1.5 item as well. With KEI, its close to an FT3 item while medding, FT1.5 item while fighting.

Edited, Fri Oct 25 17:07:25 2002
# Sep 15 2002 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
21 posts
Uhm,. I'm a 45th level ranger, I bought this sweet shroud 3 days before the patch that added focus items for 1.5k on xegony. When me and my brother play together, hes a 47 rogue, i end up using all my mana keeping the mobs offa him when we constant pull mobs. This is definatly an item i dont plan to upgrade for a long long time. And when i do, my chanter is gonna wet his kilt when I transfer it to him.
# Aug 11 2002 at 8:15 PM Rating: Decent
105 posts
I'm a 60th cleric and wear this all the time. Unfortunately Complete Heal is not affected by the focus effect. If you're like me, you use CH often and wont blow all your mana with other spells so you're not looking at saving 350 mana. Make sure you're wearing this when you cast group ageo.

Still a caster's favorite. I'd wear this over 7th shawl, and swap between 8th and ODS.

So go kill dar knights! :)
#Pearlay, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 5:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I saw ODS in Bazaar channel 7K other day, there Not that Expencive, ONlY 10% to mana preservation. Less you use a High Cost lvl 60 Spell your Not getting Much benifit from it Specialy when you can Get Mage to Summon a Better item for Free. And they 2 itmes Dotn Stack Only One will trigger at time.
#Pearlay, Posted: Jul 31 2002 at 5:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I saw ODS in Bazaar channel 7K other day, there Not that Expencive, ONlY 10% to mana preservation. Less you use a High Cost lvl 60 Spell your Not getting Much benifit from it Specialy when you can Get Mage to Summon a Better item for Free. And they 2 itmes Dotn Stack Only One will trigger at time.
#Ryukyle, Posted: Jul 26 2002 at 6:12 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) We had a Seb hunting yesterday , and we head to Disco. In 2 hrs we got some gems , this thing from Dar Knight and Tolan Bracer from Brogg.
Where do they spawn?
# Jul 26 2002 at 12:50 AM Rating: Decent
9 posts
My question is, where do the Dar knights normally spawn in seb? i do not have pp to buy things, being a cleric who doesn't bug peeps to give him pp for dots, and doesn't charge for rezzes .. the ONLY way i could get this is to hunt it ... or have a friend drop it on me ... where do i hunt for it? that's all i need to know please help the helper lol

RE: Where do they spawn?
# Aug 08 2002 at 11:16 AM Rating: Default
Ugh . . . I have clerics in the guild that say whenenever they group, even for a few hours, unless there are repeated wipeouts for some reason, you dont go thru huge amounts for symboling. They also say they jasper buff the non Enchanters/clerics/MT's . . . I just dont see how so many clerics are blaming their wealth issues on not charging for resses and DOT buffs . . .

Im a ranger. I dont charge for crap!!! I normally pay for resses and ports. I still have enough money to do what I have to. Are you telling me that clerics out there could not farm the LSoEE when it came out? Thats how I made 10k easily! 1 Farm of the LSoEE!!! There are many ways to make plat.

I know its off subject, but I'm so tired of this excuse for not having money . . . I know so many clerics that are way more loaded than I am . . . considering on many occasions, most clerics are reimbursed with gems for DOTs in certain camps. How bout the fact that a cleric can usually get a group easier than many other classes? You get more XP than us because of that . . . should we non wanted classes whine? Wait, how bout because you get more chances to get into the better camps, you have chances at better loot . . . how bout that idea. I CANT STAND THE CLERICS OUT THERE THAT WHINE ABOUT NOT HAVING CASH!!!
RE: Where do they spawn?
# Oct 03 2002 at 6:32 PM Rating: Default
Ranger whining about can't get a group? Try being a wizard.
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RE: Where do they spawn?
# Aug 15 2002 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
222 posts
What the **** is a LSoEE? I'm sorry, but I get really sick of acronyms in this game. Say the full name of something, so everybidy knows what you're talking about, then abreiviate.

Not everybody knows everything like you.
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RE: Where do they spawn?
# Oct 15 2002 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
17 posts
LSoEE is the Long Sword of Ethereal Energy. This item was a quest right after luclin came out which has been removed from the game so these items are very rare. Stats are 16 dam 25 del, 5 magic damage, 12 to dex, 15 ac, 10 sv magic, -5 str, -5 sta. So vs Low MR mobs it acts like a 21 dam 25 del weapon which is pretty good. The quest was nerfed to give out a scimitar instead without the nice stats because the quest was too easy. I completed it start to finish solo as a level 25 warrior wearing banded and wielding fine steel, so risk reward was way out of line. Smiley: smile
RE: Where do they spawn?
# Nov 19 2002 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
19 posts
actually its 16/29, 5 magic dmg, but yeah same diff.

decent mid range offhander for non-tanks.
Tarew Marr
RE: Where do they spawn?
# Oct 08 2002 at 1:45 PM Rating: Default
10 posts
Your a scholar?!?! Hmmmm. /boggle
RE: Where do they spawn?
# Aug 28 2002 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
44 posts
LSoEE = Longsword of Ethereal Energy = awesome offhand weapon.
RE: Where do they spawn?
# Aug 12 2002 at 12:31 PM Rating: Default
2 posts
It must suck not having a clue.
mana preserve does NOT stack with efficiency focus effects
# Jul 24 2002 at 11:50 PM Rating: Excellent
1 post
efficiency focus effects dominate over the mana preservation effect, because the efficiency spells save you 25% mana and mana preservation only saves 15%, and they dont stack, instead EQ uses the strongest one
Stacking of the effect?
# Jul 22 2002 at 4:04 PM Rating: Decent
74 posts
Does Mana Preservation III stack with Affliction Efficiency III? In other words... if I cast Boil Blood while wearing both a Gem Encrested Ring and an Obulus Death Shroud, would my spell cost 25%+10% less mana? Or would only the better cost savings (AE3) apply?

RE: Stacking of the effect?
# Aug 01 2002 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
I doub it, I know the 2 Mana Preservations will not stack, and I believe affliction efficeny just makes the DOT do more damage faster doesn't it? (not sure) I thought the effliction efficently lowerd the time of a DOT by 25% but kept the sme damage so I guess it would stack then. I have Range III and Affliction Extension III and they work together on Dot's

just trying to help by giving you my observations
RE: Stacking of the effect?
# Jul 22 2002 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
5 posts
My cleric has this item, and a black alloy medallion (or whatever the item is that has mana preservation II). Will the mana preservation III effect of the shroud stack with the mana preservation II of the medallion?

Thanks in advance for any info.
Andrene Bayoubeau
45th Paladin

Voila Bayoubeau
42nd Cleric
RE: Stacking of the effect?
# Aug 24 2002 at 4:08 AM Rating: Decent
569 posts
Focus LEVELS do not stack. That is all they are. They affect spells up to a certain level.

If you try to use a level 26 spell with a focus I item, it will not work with the focus I.
If you use a focus II item with the level 26 spell, then it will work.
If you use a level 55 spell with a focus II spell, it will not work.
You must use a focus III item for that 55 spell.

It's worth whatever people want to pay
# Jun 16 2002 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
9 posts
I heard of someone selling one of these for 30k. For that much money, I would sell... I would probably even sell for 20k. But I would not let mine go for less than that. It doesn't matter if someone else says it's only worth 5k... to me, I would rather keep my ODS than have 5k or even 10k. That's what it's worth to me.
RE: It's worth whatever people want to pay
# Jun 27 2002 at 9:21 PM Rating: Default
82 posts
I think paying over 10k for this is an incredible waste of plats. As VI add more focus items are added to the game you're going regret paying for 10k for this gimped shoulder.
RE: It's worth whatever people want to pay
# Mar 01 2003 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
45 posts
"I think paying over 10k for this is an incredible waste of plats. As VI add more focus items are added to the game you're going regret paying for 10k for this gimped shoulder."

Still waiting... ****, at this point you would be lucky to find an OBS for sale for only 10k.
Pricing data inaccurate, but here's a new price I sold mine
# Jun 13 2002 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
Sold my Obulus Death Shroud for a LSOEE (about 10k on Tribunal) last night.
# Jun 07 2002 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
This thing gives 20% decrease in mana usage. How do I know? Before verant nerfed the kobold jester's crown (with the same exact effect of Mana preservation III), I used my lvl 54 Druid. With the crown and the effect I could cast SLN 9 times and 1 SOE, (300 and 125 mana respectively a cast) and without it I could only cast SLN 7 times and 2 SOEs. That means without it I could cast about 2350 mana worth of spells and with it I could cast 2825 mana worth of spells...which is a 20% increase to 2350... the bare facts folks. Enjoy, 8)
RE: 20%
# Jul 02 2002 at 5:38 PM Rating: Default
184 posts
you forgot about you specialization you idiot remember that ?
RE: 20%
# Jun 08 2002 at 3:30 AM Rating: Good
31 posts
Actually its only 10%, at least according to the descriptions on caster's realm:
RE: 20%
# Jul 17 2002 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
3 posts
Casters Realms stats on some of the focus effects are inaccurate. I get over 20% damage increase from my Gallenite's Jade Bracelet (Mage summon focus item) which castersrealm reports at 10% increase.
RE: 20%
# Nov 22 2002 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
5 posts
I believe that to be incorrect. Alla gets its data from the Spells_en.txt file in your EQ directory, this data is what the game uses to determine item effects.

Edited, Fri Nov 22 22:24:49 2002
Im too precious, **** Off
RE: 20%
# Jun 09 2002 at 10:54 AM Rating: Good
15 posts
Did you try this more than once?

If not, it may just be variances in your Specialization taking effect, even tho it may not be your main Specialization.
RE: 20%
# Jun 08 2002 at 10:21 PM Rating: Excellent
My tests also come out to ~20%. I can cast Moonfire several more times with this item on. Gives me roughly 600-700 more mana (from a base 3300 mana pool)
WOW: Briony . 70 Frost Mage . Shadowsong
EQ: Miriamele . 65 Alteration Druid . Brell Serilis
RE: 20%
# Jun 08 2002 at 4:07 PM Rating: Excellent
4 posts
I know thats what Caster's Realm says, but what I said are just the can do the calculations yourself if you'd like. Fact: with Mana Pres III I could cast SLN 9 times and SOE once and without it (the item having the Mana Preservation being the ONLY item removed and none being added or changed) I was able to cast SLN 7 times and SOE twice. Do the math if you'd like.
RE: 20%
# Jun 14 2002 at 12:00 PM Rating: Decent
19 posts
When the new effects were first put on, it was 20%. Allot of items got nerfed in the next day or two, however.. So i could very well only be 10% now : (
You can notice the difference
# Jun 07 2002 at 10:27 AM Rating: Default
1 post
I own this item and baby it does makes a difference! I didn't know about the added effect at first, but I have noticed my mana bar not moving down as fast as it did before (then of course saw the message, checked my ODS and there it was - Mana Conservation III!) Woo woo! Also, it seems like I regenerate mana at a higher rate - I know that the effect is not that of mana regeneration, but it seems that way. One way or another, you definitely see the difference, so for those who say it's crap, get it first and then talk. 10% may seems like not much, but when you have this thingy on - you will notice it (I have SK and if I can notice it, so should you). Anyway, I was glad to see this effect on my item but hey, I would not pay some obnoxious amount of plat for it - the 5k I forked out doesn't seem as much anymore. Just a nice surprise after the patch :o)
# Jun 07 2002 at 5:28 AM Rating: Default
Ive been in a few spots where Rangers have to assist healing. Now that Ive been in a group where 270hp heals were required, this item payed its price in full. MC3 is nice. Its a rare occasion.

Sorry Mr. Wizzy. u nuked to much (, but you got a Click, from the cleric. )"lucky bastage won a BD"

Affects high lvl spells
# Jun 07 2002 at 12:18 AM Rating: Excellent
7 posts
Just my 2 cents worth:
The Benefit of Mana III is that it affects higher lvl spells.
Mana II affects spells lvl 44 and below.
All the benefits are 10%
Just the spells it adds a benefit to increases.

(( ; ))
Deluv 52 *****
#terial, Posted: Jun 06 2002 at 1:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LOL! Its not like this item is going to be any more rare. And the effect is NOTHING like the Flowing III.... 10% lol thats not even close. i cant even tell a difference when i wear mine.
RE: Price wont go up
# Jun 07 2002 at 4:04 AM Rating: Default
56 posts
oh great. somebody found out that there are items with effect Flowing Thought III. Of course everybody would rather chose a FT3 item instead of this one, so please go to bazaar and shout "WTB items with FT3". I am sure you will get lots of offers.

and while were are there, why would you chose a FT3 item. There are FT7 items. Does that make FT3 items worthless for you?

get real. play the game and someday find out what the attribute "no drop" means.

Atrocious - eat, sleep, EQ -
#Iane, Posted: Jun 06 2002 at 1:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i for one have a friend that paid 12k for this right after the patch. and he stated the new rate people were offering was 100k for it serval times during the day.
RE: Price wont go up
# Jun 07 2002 at 8:54 AM Rating: Default
64 posts
I just paid 4K for one on Erollisi Marr This morning. Bought it from a 60 Shaman in Commons. And it is 10% also, not 30% as the price gouger stated earlier. Believe me if you see one selling for anymore that 5K, just wait around. You'll get one cheaper.

#Fyrewalker, Posted: Jun 06 2002 at 11:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You're retarded. Verant themselves said that mana conservation is 10%. You are a price gouger probably trying to sell one of these for 100k. I hope you accidently delete your account.
Mana Preservation 3
# Jun 06 2002 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
This saves 10% on mana cost of spells. Effectively increasing your mana pool by 10%. And because I don't have to regen my mana by that 10% more, it is like having flowing thought 3 or 4 on this baby. This is one awesome piece of equipment now. Every caster should wear one. It will probably be nerfed in tonights patch though because of this.
Now expensive
# Jun 06 2002 at 8:21 AM Rating: Decent
This is now the ONLY tradeable item with Mana Preserve III. This means it is essentially the only sellable item that gives ANY caster (except for clerics CHealing) 10% more mana (in effect).
RE: Now expensive
# Sep 08 2002 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
Wrong about this being the only tradable MP3 item, crystalline Torque from Velks has it as well.
# Jun 05 2002 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
150 posts
this now has Mana preservation 3
RE: Focus
# Jun 06 2002 at 8:03 AM Rating: Default
Yep price will be going up now. Mana Preservation can make a big difference.
The Power of Hate conquers all foes.
Leader of The Silent Minority a Rathe Guild
# May 19 2002 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
32 posts
On Rallos Zek, I trade a twink a frost gaint femur for this item. Both being junk, but this being a piece of junk that I could use as an upgrade to my embarrasingly noobish braided ivy cords, it was a good trade indeed. Yeah, its a decent shoulder piece, and I know that servers other than Rallos Zek seem to have less things in circulation, hence, higher prices, but, still, a couple K? I'ld call 500 an even deal on this thing. LOL, +1 sv vs nothing, but kinda taunting, huh? Atleast I haven't seen too many of these things around, and neither have most ppl that keep inspecting, so it looks pretty cool on the shoulders. Just my 2 cents.

Hehe, if anyone wants to start out on Rallos Zek, I'm normally on my druid, Feellwin, just send me a tell, I always have lots of noob junk taking up my slots. Just don't ask for anything that's Lore that I'm using =P

Hugs all, Feellwin Freehugger
Venerable Feellwin Freehugger
Druid of the 62nd Season, Karana
Wrath of Honour (Officer)
Rallos Zek
dropped by
# Apr 25 2002 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
105 posts
Rekaar is right. I've only seen this drop off dar knights.
To Obulus or not to Obulus?
# Mar 19 2002 at 3:47 AM Rating: Good
10 posts
As for this item, (as it applies to me as a monk), I can't see myself shelling out the pp for this. I see a lot of monks wearing this item on Terris-Thule. The AC, Str, and Sta are nice, but look at the weight. IMHO if you're going to go for a 2 weight shoulder, go the extra .5 weight for Engraved Bone Pauldrons. They're cheaper, and they have comparable plusses, albeit in different, yet equally important attributes. But the main thing is EB Pauldrons are 12 AC as opposed to the 10 on the Death Shroud. That's an extra 20%, which will really show up when they get equipped and give even more AC due to the class AC multiplier.

And the real kicker? Look at the prices for each of the items I mentioned. Huge difference on any server; ODS = thousands of pp, EBPs = hundreds of pp.

Just my 2cp ^_^
#xlurkerx, Posted: Jan 05 2002 at 12:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hehe... lucky me, someone gave me this at level 8.. sold a few levels later for 1200pp and bought some ry'gorr armor :)
Rich Nebie
# Nov 27 2001 at 6:34 AM Rating: Default
I got this of a rich newbie for power lvl him 1 lvl. Im very pleased with this item. Its well worth lvl'n him 18-19 )

Applejuce Tolanheart
47th Ranger
Seekers Of Lore
Inny Server
Good item...but...
# Oct 26 2001 at 5:28 PM Rating: Decent
36 posts
Okay, I understand this is a really good item as I have owned one. Really good for a ranger, what with the pluses to wis and the mana + 25. Other decent stats too. The saves are nearly negligible. Here's where the " But " comes in. I am not one of those " AC is king " type of people, however, it needs to be taken into consideration. I am currently using engraved bone pauldrons. ac 12 ( with the agi +5 bonus, this now becomes a +20 AC on my char ). I did take a mad hit on charisma ( 20 points, ranger has little need for Cha, and can get other gera or simply take this off ). and I still get a dex + 3 bonus. Tough call, but I traded the extra mana ( and 25 mana in the hands of a ranger never saved a group ) and 5 wis, ulp! more mana, for the added 10 AC. In my book I'd rather have the dex up there, and later on find a better resist item to switch out on raids. ALWAYS open for suggestions, and points I may not have considered.
True, cities have banks, but alas, I have no money. So why leave the comforts of the wild?
RE: Good item...but...
# Mar 08 2002 at 12:16 PM Rating: Default
157 posts
Ac is not truly king for you, you're a ranger. Ac is king is a term for the classes mroe designed towards tanking warrior first off and SK/Pal secondly. For you stats are more important.

Also, the reason you get 20ac from your 12ac shoulders is because AC is measured as ac x 1.5, so the 12ac when worn is 18ac and you get 2 more ac fromt he 5 agi, not 8ac from 5 agi.
RE: Good item...but...
# Mar 19 2002 at 3:26 AM Rating: Decent
10 posts
AC is also "king" for us monkly types ;)
RE: Good item...but...
# Apr 28 2002 at 8:34 AM Rating: Default
39 posts
hey leave the guy alone, ur all wrong lol
ac is king for all classes, especially if ur a chanter and mez breaks and comes bashin on you, it sure saves ur *** .. im sure u can think of reasons to have ac instead of wis/int pas 230
What the **** is a signature?
# Jul 21 2001 at 2:31 AM Rating: Default
is the pricing right??10k?? bought mine for 1k.../shrug
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