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MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE PLACEABLE
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Charges: Unlimited
Skill: Hand to Hand Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 12 Dmg Bonus: 26 AC: 5
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +10 DEX: +10 STA: +10 CHA: +10 AGI: +10 HP: +50 ENDUR: +40
SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +5 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5 SV POISON: +5
Effect: Jonthan's Whistling Warsong (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: Instant) at Level 30
WT: 0.1 Size: TINY
Class: MNK
Race: HUM IKS FRG DRK
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:Martial
Light:Flameless Lantern
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Biny
Updated By:Nitlaan
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
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Rarity: Ultra Rare
Level to Attain: 55

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Obtained!
# Aug 10 2017 at 4:25 AM Rating: Good
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Finally got this after all this! Now I own all Cabilis weapon arc final weapons! lol
Just a little note. at 52, wearing mostly intricate Defiant gear, cloak is Extended Enhancement V which is 15%, the Duration of the buff is 12 seconds. Not sure if we can increase this with AA and better enhancement either. So for all those that have not gotten this. just know that the duration is low, it's as if you were a bard singing it ( with no duration enhancement). The only difference is that you can't melody it and it's instant cast, so no worries about interruptions.
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Finally got it
# Mar 29 2006 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Finally got this item yesterday! I had the satchel and the book i just needed to talk to cazic and get the other book then hand them all back in to him. I tried this solo but all 8 times ended horribly(me becomeing a corpes)I finally gave up till i could get something going raid wise to help with clearing the zone. Was farming some items when someone was shouting in general chat that they wanted to do raid so i graved my satchel and book and invis potion and joined up. Took like 2 1/2 hours for it to kick off and the raid was dissappointed in the fact that none of the golems where up only cazic. lucky me. either way i did my hand in and then the raid killed cazic. not sure what he dropped but im sure it made someone happy.
Solo turn-in
# Sep 26 2005 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Got this for my 55 monk.

One grouped the main mobs (level 50-60 groups). Most were easy.

Had to sneak turn-in to Brother Balatin to spawn his tougher version, otherwise he will attack.

I gathered all the components first and headed to fear (by myself :P). Please note, some mobs see invis and some do not and they could be the SAME model. When I zoned into Fear, I noticed a lot of mobs were up. I tried to run after getting aggro but I could not make it and FD kept getting interupted by casters. I did not have any HP/AC buffs. I died.

Summoned corpse and decided to try again. I had 4 or 5 invis potions. This time I got Virtue and Sow. Invis at zone-in proved to be futile as at least one mob there saw me. I flopped as best I could with much down-time FDd. At one point all my buffs were dispelled, I was feared and GATED but I managed to make it to the east wall. Once there the mobs were a bit thinner, and I tried invis again. Now I could see most of the mobs and I conned everything from far off and avoided those who could see me.

I made my way to the north wall and the ring of fire. All this time I hear Cazic Thule shouting so I know he is up, but I do not spot him. I circle around the ring of fire and back to the north wall avoiding the mobs who see me. Then I spot him. I am standing by the north wall a bit east of the ring of fire. He has 2 mobs who see invis near him. Cazic cons warmly and sees invis.

Caz, ambles around the area and now is walking straight for me with NO other mobs following him. I take my chance, say Gandan has failed IN his task. He hands me a book and I straight-away hand him the book back, plus Gandan's book and the combined Cazic satchel. Cazic thanks me for the pain I have inflicted and hands me the Fists. I had to be almost inside of him to trade too.

He then wanders to the west. There were plenty of mobs walking around but I was relatively safe so I camped out and took the free ride home the next day.
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finding Cazic-Thule for turn-in
# Jul 07 2005 at 5:09 PM Rating: Decent
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After joining Fear raids twice only to find that earlier raids had cleared the zone, I finally got my WF this week. I can confirm that Cazic-Thule is on a 7-day timer (or very nearly). The servers were rebooted for a patch a week before, so as we approached 7 days of uptime I quaffed an invis potion and headed into Fear solo at level 56.

I headed west from the zone-in, then north (skirting around the Fiend House but still west of the circle of fire) to the zone edge, then east along the edge to the northeast corner. Invis of course dropped too soon, and I had to feign a few times to shake off agro. Be sure to stay feigned until "your enemies have forgotten you" (two minutes), because agro in Fear is pretty crazy and you do NOT want to attract a Death Touch mob. Bring plenty of spare invis potions, too!

You'll know if the CT is due to pop soon because the other mobs will start to fill the zone (so CT will have lots of mobs to summon, naturally). I'd seen a scattering of mobs on earlier visits, but it was pretty crowded this time. Most don't see invis, thank goodness.

Anyway, I feigned in the northeast corner and came back in the morning to find CT had spawned and was shouting to the zone. (Exact timer on spawn is unclear since the server might've come up a few hours before players were allowed to log in after the update.) I waited a while but couldn't see him, so I got up and moved west until I could spot him. I was able to see him from +1336,-1108; he moved away but I ran up to where he'd been and noted the loc: +1201,-794. That seems to be about as far east as he roams. I tried to FD there to wait for his return, but the feign failed and I had to run away from some mobs. Came back later and CT was in a slightly different spot, more on top of the hill a bit to the south, but still mostly out of range of other mobs in the zone.

You might be able to do the turn-in without any other mobs spotting you, but of course if they do they'll agro and CT will then join them against you. Easiest is to quaff yet another invis potion (bring lots!), because CT sees invis but most other mobs don't.

Remember also to bring along a gate potion of some sort, unless you want to wait six hours to use the "Return Home" button on the character select screen. My favorite gate potion is the Potion of Escape you loot off Master Glox in the Trial of Agility (part of Shackle of Tynnonium, so you must've done it by now if you're doing the Fists). If you can Intimidate Glox during that fight, he'll run out through the locked door so you get to keep the potion until you camp (it's Temporary).
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RE: finding Cazic-Thule for turn-in
# Sep 21 2005 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Remember also to bring along a gate potion of some sort, unless you want to wait six hours to use the "Return Home" button on the character select screen


There is a Zone-Out in the temple inside the ring of fire, one the second level. You can pop invulnerability or just go bawls out and run in, and zone back out to Ferrott
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Recast
# Oct 29 2004 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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how long does the effect last? or do you have to recast every 18 secounds?
RE: Recast
# Jan 28 2005 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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this effect is no different from the bard song, it will last 2-3 ticks (forget exactly) and you will have to keep recasting it

I just obtained this for my monk and 'm loving it, extra speed boost and 50 str maxes my str out (10 from item and 40 from song)

clicking it a bunch of times is a small price to pay
RE: Recast
# Apr 02 2005 at 2:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Ya. Just hot-key it and it is no problem.
has it been updated for bst
# Jul 31 2004 at 9:06 PM Rating: Default
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can a beastlord use now??
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RE: has it been updated for bst
# Aug 12 2004 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
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No, this is a monk quest... always has been...

There has been quests added for Iksar (and other if you have faction) Beastlords.
stack?
# Jun 16 2004 at 10:01 PM Rating: Default
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I know the haste effects do not stack, however, do the attack buffs from Monk Epic and this item stack? or do at least the Icons themselves stack?
Shackle of Tynn.
# Mar 23 2004 at 7:03 AM Rating: Default
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Why some people say they have to do their shackle of tynnonium again?

Do you use up your shackle of tynnonium in the quest process of CF or WF? I don't see any part where the shackle will be used up for the CF or WF..

So why are people doing it the second time? It's LORE isn't it?
RE: Shackle of Tynn.
# Apr 14 2004 at 9:02 AM Rating: Default
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While you are getting your Whistling Fist, you turn in your Tynnonium shackle. You can then do the quest again to regain it. I myself have redone it twice, so when I turn in my tynnonium shackle, I can get it again with my steel shackle, and then regain the steel shackle. Easy quests to do, aside from the foraging needed for the shackle of copper...
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RE: Shackle of Tynn.
# Jun 05 2004 at 8:12 AM Rating: Decent
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...or the pennance quest needed for us humans...
RE: Shackle of Tynn.
# Jun 15 2004 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Don't ever bother with the penance quest. Just have a friend make an Iksar Monk and have them Multi-quest the shackle of dust.
hmm
# Dec 07 2003 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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as a iksar monk I couldnt care really this much.. but with the coming of all those new stuffies with expansions.. wouldnt it be able for a human monk to grab a ikky illusion potion?

(thats how my chanter walks trough cab)
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RE: hmm
# Sep 18 2004 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, this CAN be done with Illusion Iksar potion, at least I assume it can, as my Vah Shir shaman did the Shaman quest using illusion iksar potion.
bones in kurns w druid friend
# Oct 09 2003 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
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just a quick note on a way to get massive numbers of bone chips in kurns if you have a druid friend or other AoE caster :)

first /who and check that zone is empty, and if not /shout and /ooc your plans, which are:

go aggro every skelly in the zone and train 'em in a TIGHT group near the caster. Upheaval (low-50's druid AoE) wipes 'em all out. In case of out-of-range accident, zone is very handy (yes, 40 to 80 p'o'd level 11 skellys can kill a druid)

repop is very quick, there are lots of skellies on the top two floors. the bottom floor has useless and annoying burynais, so I didn't bother pulling from there.

No need: in one all-day session I collected AND turned-in over 2,000 bone chips and went to amiable w Troopers and Scowling w Crusaders... I had spent some time in my 20's in LoIO killing gobbies, so didn't start from zero.

One more bone session should do it for me and I don't have to go KOS in FV (not that i care too much).

Also, BTW, there is a cave near the water in FoB that has skellies that give you faction with the Necro guild (Brood of Kotiz i believe).

Someday, the jewel of the Court of Pain will be mine :)
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RE: bones in kurns w druid friend
# Nov 29 2003 at 1:21 AM Rating: Default
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They can't if druid casts b4 aggroing regen + DS on himself. biggest draw back of misfired upheval will be waiting till they all die -- skellies won't be doing good job on hitting druid. lowering own AC helps. I mean removing some armor not debuffing self :).
Usually it's a good idea to find some1 inside buff him/her with skin + regen + DS + ocasional heal & PL ppl that way. If druid gets aggro just zone out then back in. I've done that 3 times lowest monk lvl 7 I don't know his HP/AC but I could keep him alive without much trouble & he went 7-14 in about 20-25 mins
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# Sep 20 2003 at 8:46 AM Rating: Default
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Faction isnt that hard, just ruin faction with the pointy ears in Gfay and FV how often do you go there any way. Kill the explorers in LOIO for there knives and turn into the Iksar Trooper at the ruins in LOIO takes about 10 stacks to be indiff.
The shackles are done pretty quick, got the shackle of tynn 2 times. Follow the guides.
Due to Droga upgrade its even easier to get the stupendous tomb quest done.
All I have to say is Soft Skins should go for it.
After all it is Ever"Quest"

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Monk of Quellious and WF
# Aug 27 2003 at 5:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Okay, i'm not sure my imput really matters at this junction, but at the time i started this quest it was for the sole purpose of just doing the quest to say "I did that". this was back in spring 2002. Now at the time i knew of very few human monks attempting this, but this is how i went about doing it.
First i was in LoIo. killing sarnaks, had to kill close to 3.5k of them i'm sure.
Second, Warsliks Woods, at the gobo camp. Killed close to the same amount. (saw iksar scaled gloves galore, but after 2 weeks of killing, didn't see a **** earring for nothing)
Third.. the fun part. Bone chips. i hate bonechips. I started in Kurns cause i thought it would be quick, wrong. Paineel is faster. I turned in about 6k of those puppies, and finally got dubious to crusaders. (they important ones, they SK's) this entire process took me about a month and a half. longest part was gathering bonechips because i'm not the richest person in the world. and my monk is my main.
The shackles. I saw a few posts on it. the quest of pennince (spelling?) is the ONLY way for a non iksar monk to get the shackle of dust (yea you can go kill Veltar to get it but i'm a role player **** it) took forever too. that thing didn't proc for ****. even with a 150 dex. once you get the shackle your in buisness, (oh. i wasn't max faction with swift tails so i had to do the pennince quest 3 times to finally get the first quest open to me) After that the other's where simple. lots of running around. and getting the stone from the gargoyle was interesting. smack him, run away FD, sneak. stand hit hotkey. give item. I got the Shackle of Steel right around the time Tynn was discovered. so i went and got all the way up to copper (i think, don't remember what was before steel) Did the 3 marks twice. i'm currently wearing Shackle of Tynn and have the replacement pieces in the bank for after turn in. I'm currently working on the stupendous tome. just need one more scroll from CoM, and FCR and i'll be ready to make the tome. after that. i need the 3 fights, and final talking to cazic for the second tome/turn in. so this quest IS doable for a human monk who is willing to do it. that's my 2 cents. flame, congratulate, what ever.

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54th Monk of Quellious
Swifttail of Tynn
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RE: Monk of Quellious and WF
# Dec 18 2003 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Nice wrap up, and good job. My only addition note is that Veltar NO LONGER drops the shackle, hence... read up folks :)
RE: Monk of Quellious and WF
# Sep 22 2003 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Finished these about an hour ago, hardest part about CT was having him up, (had been waiting for about 5 days) after that it was just waiting for him to get close for me to sneak him.

Baron Maiyamoto Usagi
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Guardian of the Whistling Fists

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RE: Monk of Quellious and WF
# Sep 07 2003 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow... Very nice. =)

Gratz on having the patience to actually change faction for THAT LONG! =)

Good luck on your final turn ins.
my experience camping FCR
# Jul 02 2003 at 6:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Needed 2 of the scrolls, and camped him for 15 hours. had one scroll within 3 hours of camp. Seems to be a completely random spawn. Killed everything in BY and the CY. couldn't fogure out a place holder, or a cycle, nor could I find any info on his spawn time/ph cycle anywhere.

know it's been posted further up - don't waste your time going to monkly-business, just go here first. http://www.geocities.com/Kurrleeeci/ShackleGuideText.html

Hope this post helps out a bit.
worth it
# Jun 18 2003 at 10:07 PM Rating: Default
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SO does everyone think the effort it takes to do this quest is stillworth it?
RE: worth it
# Jul 28 2003 at 4:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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The pride in owning this is what makes it worth it. The nearest thing to wining in this game is haveing more pride in you charicter than the next guy. If you go through this quest, you have the pride. So what if the guy next to you got PL'l or Ebayed his way to being top dog. You earned it.
Sounds hoaky but trust me, when you do the final turn in it don't feel that way.
RE: worth it
# Jun 28 2008 at 8:38 PM Rating: Default
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I agree fully with this post, the pride you feel completing a well made quest like this make it all worth it, even if they item isn't still awesome by todays equipment standards. For example, when i finished the epic on my beast lord, i really thought nothing of it, I was like oh glowing gloves, neat, but when I finished this quest for the first time, the feeling that washed over me was like nothing else in EQ I had done, the same with finishing the monk epic, the bst epic is just to much of a gimme to come with any pride and anyone who complains about that quest should not even play EQ, WoW would be more suiting to them.
worth it
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Faction with CT
# Jun 02 2003 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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How do you handle faction with CT or do you even need it for the turn in?

can you just flop on down in front of him and do the turnin?
RE: Faction with CT
# Jun 02 2003 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
From what I've read, if you are a CT worshipping Iksar, faction shouldn't be a problem. However if you are a human, you should do the turn in from BEHIND CT, because if you flop on down in FRONT of him you will be a grease spot on his nice floor.

And don't hail him, that makes him turn around and "face" you.
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Human Monks Foraging?
# Jan 05 2003 at 12:31 PM Rating: Excellent
So folks, how do teh NODROP foraged items wend their merry way into the hands of a Human Monk? In order to do this quest ,you need a box from Master Rinmark, (OK, so the faction is relatively easy to get witht he explorer knives or a kazillion bone chips), but how can you get teh foraged goods?
I would love some enlightenment on this, otherwise I see NO way a human could do this quest.

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Iksar Monk <Nomadic KNights>
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EASY FACTION!?!?!
# May 19 2003 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, maybe the faction isn't THAT tough to get, but as far as saying relatively easy, i wouldn't go that far. The faction work is not easy to do, and even then, the quests themselves are not a quick and easy thing. These quests are meant for iksar, you softskins shouldn't be in cabalis anyway =)
No really....I wouldn't waste my time working on these quests unless you are a hard-core roleplayer. The faction work needed just to walk into cab is NOT an easy thing to do. If you must though, go to kurns tower and start collecting MASS amounts of bone chips, or if you don't mind destroying FV faction, go to LOIO and kill the explorers for their knives.

Just my opinion but, these quests are meant for iksar only. Humans should stick to working on epic. In retrospect i wish i would have worked on epic instead of spending countless hours working on these shackle quests just to lose the last shackle on a turn-in anyway to get the whistling fists which are basically made obsolete by epic anyway (yeah, the songs do stack, not the haste but the other stats). The stupendous tome quest alone took many many hours of camping to complete.

IMHO, if you are human, don't worry about whistling fists, just chug it out in KC *yuck* and chardok and get your pipes and epic and be happy. I must admit though, if i saw a human with shackle of Tynn or the whistling fists themselves i would /kneel before them for the time and effort put into the whole ordeal but in back of my mind i would pity the poor soul who wasted a LOT of time that should have been spent working towards epic.

Monkly-buisness is THE source for all your monkly needs.

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Ickky 56th monk
RE: EASY FACTION!?!?!
# Aug 09 2003 at 12:41 AM Rating: Good
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I'm doing the WF quest as a monk of Quellious. Is factoin hard? took me a long time. Yes, a long time. No human is gonna walk into Cabilis without doing at least 2 parts of 3 on the faction. I killed around 3K goblins and handed in around 350 explorer knives. (ok, the Iksar don't like quellious too much). And then I started on the Necro faction. (killing exiled iksar) but thankfully, that faction is not needed.

And YES, its a matter of pride to do the shackle quest as a human. I know several freinds that started a second character and pretty much got PL'd to level 50 and then just did exp grouping ever since. But they are all spend like 25K on startup equipment and spells (if applicable) and prolly another 25 to 50K on em, just so they could group at the high levels.

So I get pride at doing quest.
To each his/her own. some players love questing, some players don't.

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RE: Human Monks Foraging?
# Jan 27 2003 at 6:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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they changed it, the items that are foraged are no longer no drop. they did this so humans can do quest.

Edited, Mon Jan 27 05:48:45 2003
You are not alone in questioning that
# Jan 05 2003 at 12:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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Follow the link and you may be able to get your answers -- Monkly-Business -- Monk Quests -- "Shackle quests as a hummie monk".

Bookmark the Monkly-Business site... not the only resource in the EQ Monk community, but a very good one.

Good luck to you.

Edited, Sun Jan 5 12:30:03 2003
Also
# Aug 23 2002 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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In response to the guy asking about the seb fight,i lead crypt groups for 2 or 3 days before he popped,the group i had for EXPing there was easily able to drop him after i turned in my shackle,just make sure you have a 55+ slower,a 55+ cleric and a decent tank,hope this helps.
RE: Also
# Apr 25 2003 at 8:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Just to let you know, the group I was with made me go toe to toe with him (said something about it would feel more like MY accomplishment if I did it). I was a 58 monk at the time with so so gear. They tossed me a heal when I needed it, but that was it. Unslowed, yes he hits fast and fairly hard. I almost bit the big one when he enraged (monk + bad reflexes + enrage = dead monk). We got him to spawn 45 minutes after the PH, or rather what I believed was his PH, was killed.


Sraknor Illtempered
63 Grand Master
Fennin Ro

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RE: Also
# Oct 29 2002 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
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He's a pushover.. really. We dropped him (and fast!) with 60 rogue, 57 cleric, 54 warrior, 52 monk. No slows necessary, he's a wuss.
RE: Also
# Apr 12 2003 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you think a lvl 63 mage with over 280int could solo this guy?
Just got WF
# Aug 23 2002 at 4:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just got this baby,and quite pleased,at level 54 i was able to do the whole quest with some help from my friends/guild,took me about 3 weeks of questing from total scratch,and was overall worth it,the warsong doesn't add very much in the way of haste,but adds almost 40 str,and the dmg/dly and stats are VERY nice...considering what i was using before this,the hardest mob to KILL was Zhaoku,who i tried to take with a 60 shammy and 56 war(big mistake),slow wore off in the middle of the fight and we all died(oops),well,just my 2 cp,totally worth it weapon if you don't have the typical uber monk stuff(90% of the lvl 60 monks on mithaniel marr wear the exact same gear),Good luck all.
#Noxist, Posted: Aug 21 2002 at 7:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Human shouldnt try to do iksar quest every time i see a human come near Cablis it makes me sick. I dont care how much faction work you have done if iksar a perma kos everywhere then all races should be perma kos to iksar. i know iksar can do faction work to get into some cities but when i did faction work for 3 weeks 5 to 6 hours a night 4 nights a week and i am still ready to attack in neriak and freeport so in conclusion all all races should not try and do iksar quests espesialy the Greenmist and this one
RE: Personaly
# Sep 04 2002 at 3:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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In two days my Iksar was Warmly in Kelethin and Apprehensive in Felwithe. Just can't bank because bankers run off of Tunare faction... I got Apprehensive in Freeport easy. Only hard part is having a druid Wolf Form you to turn in the belts. If you try to do the faction by killing orcs, you just raise the Pally faction, not Militia. Factioning is easy, so long as you uderstand the factions you are changing.
RE: Personaly
# Dec 18 2002 at 10:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just thought I'd note...

Apparently, as of recently after the realise of PoP, Wolf Form no longer boosts faction.. with anyone. Sooo... now its a bit harder.
Rather than belts, you're going to want Orc Scalps. Just go to Crushbone and auction to purchase them at 2pp each, youll get a ton.. be sure to kill for them to in areas not camped. Once you have about 250, go to Highpass and turn them into Captain Ashlan with sneak. You can turn them in four at a time, unstacked. Then you just haev to kill rocs for guild faction, (I reccomend Nek forest because theyre never camped there, you can kill all 3)

Of course, if you turn in all 300-some odd scalps at once youll probably be so weighted down with the cash you cant walk P
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RE: Personaly
# Aug 29 2002 at 11:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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If a human is willing to do the grueling faction work necessary to be welcomed in Cabalis, then they **** well deserve to be able to do these quests. /salute softskins
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RE: Personaly
# Nov 23 2002 at 7:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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thank you brother monk it would be interesting to see them make a three point (shackle, sash, headband) quest epic but i doubt they will :( oh well it a good wish

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RE: Personaly
# Aug 22 2002 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
Honestly, you must be doing the wrong faction quests. I know many a iksar that has walked the streets of Neriak, Freeport, Qeynos, Grobb, Oggok in less time it takes for one human to walk the streets of Cabillis and even then, we're not completely safe. You're not perma-KoS anywhere. Almost every faction can be improved.
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pfft
# Aug 05 2002 at 7:38 PM Rating: Default
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I never made a human monk because i thought they were better, i made one because that was the only option when i started him >_<

iksar monks make me mad, monks are sposed to be religious. from what i have seen iksar monks arnt, but hey, thats just me
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RE: pfft
# Sep 19 2002 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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What a joke....religous...Human monks have the ability to be agnostic
RE: pfft
# Aug 30 2002 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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We are religious. We're just devoted to spreading fear into the hearts of soft-skins.
Human to Iksar
# Jul 14 2002 at 9:22 PM Rating: Default
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LOL notice how the human monks are starting to get into Iksar shackle quests hehe. And you made a human monk, thinking they are better, pffft.
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Seb
# Jul 01 2002 at 10:00 AM Rating: Decent
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What level and group are required to kill the fallen master in Seb, can't seem to find any info on him. Seem to be the crux of the quest, rest can be done pretty easy if you are guilded.
RE: Seb
# Oct 04 2002 at 12:16 AM Rating: Decent
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He's lvl 57 hits fast, and rages at the end so i guess you need a full group of 55+ to handle this dude.
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the hard way
# Jun 20 2002 at 6:10 AM Rating: Decent
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where can i get the peble needed for shackle of clay? scorpion chitins are easy,once i do,in all quests involved for shackles,do i need to give in the shakle itself?
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question
# Jun 18 2002 at 5:51 AM Rating: Decent
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if you dont have your shackle of dust is there a way you can MQ past it or get another?
RE: question
# Sep 27 2002 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
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yes u can request the shackle of dust.. i have done it. it sucks... it really really really sucks. Find the court of pain and off to the right of the guild master theres a female there go to her and say " I have lost my shackle ". she will annialate you with claims of hate and give you a book... the book will have you find the toilmaster and ask him for a bag... and for a hammer (4/60 2hb 25 wt eff : bone rend ) the book will continue to go on saying u need to get a mortar and pestle from the mortician ( other side of cab. follow the right wall second floor second building ) the book again continues about how you have to smash all the enemies of CT ( use the hammer to smash greenies outside the gates when it procs u get a no drop bone fragment on ur cursor that u drop in mortar and pestle )... u need 48 procs... this will take you about an hour or more ( dex dependant ) combine 8 in mortar and pestile and u get a bone poder... combine 7 of those and a flask of bloodwater in the bag and u take the book and the bag back to the fem iksar in court of pain


i tried so long and tried so hard but in the end it didnt really matter
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RE: question
# Aug 08 2002 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Haste stacking
# May 21 2002 at 7:32 PM Rating: Default
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my name is Ssavanger on Tp server in finshed this quest and also have my epic i keep reading the the haste dose not stack but i have a shiverback hide sash epic and the fist i have ran 20 tests on my haste with just sash and epic and my avrage hit delay was 1.37 when useing the fist my attack droped to 1.07 so from what i have seen that tells me that the haste stacks the only varble difrent was that i was not clicking the effect on the fist so i am 99% sure the this haste DOSE STACK
RE: Haste stacking
# Jun 10 2002 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you are confused on what stacking means in this case. The Celestial Fists is a click effect haste, the Shiverback Sash is a perm haste, the Whistling Fists is a click effect effect haste. You will always have the perm effect haste (whatever the highest haste item equipped is), then you can go above that haste with one of your click effect haste items, but... you cannot stack your click effects. (ie. Whistling Fists + Shiverback Sash = 51% haste, Celestial Fists + Shiverback Sash = 71% haste, Celestial Fists + Shiverback Sash + Whistling Fists = 71% haste.) You can only have 2 of your haste bonuses. Then you can also stack spell haste as well (like Speed of the Shissar.)
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RE: Haste stacking
# Jun 17 2002 at 3:45 PM Rating: Default
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Ummm....not sure but I think this would count as a bard song due to the fact that it is a bard song. Therefor Shiverback Sash (Perm) Celestial Fists (Spell) Whistling Fists (Song) should all stack. Not totaly sure though.
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RE: Haste stacking
# Sep 27 2002 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
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CF is a song
RE: Haste stacking
# Jul 14 2002 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, the three hastes that stack is there perma, the song, and spell. All are different and they WILL stack. So if you did the calculations and get 71%, well guess what? That's your haste. Enjoy ;)
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RE: Haste stacking
# Jul 26 2002 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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1. Celestial Tranquility (monk epic proc) is not spell haste, its song haste.

2. Spell haste and song haste do NOT stack

3. In a situation where 2 of the same type of haste effect spells or songs are being applied at the same time (eg. Celestial Tranquility and Jonathons Whistling War Song) the components of the song will stack (+str +cha +atk whatever) but the haste will NOT. The higher haste of the two will be the only one applied (in that example, Celestial Tranquility)

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To Clarify - There are 2 types of haste that stack

- Item Haste (no spell icon)
eg. FBSS, RBG, CoF, RBB, Shiverback sash

- Spell OR Song Haste
eg. Bard Song, Enchanter/Shaman Quickness line

If you have 2 or more types of the same haste applied at once, the icons may stack but the haste is not stacking, only the highest haste applies
RE: Haste stacking
# Jul 26 2002 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Just to add (in a seperate post for clarity again)

There is an exception to that rule... There are a couple of bard songs that WILL stack with the standard bard haste and enchanter/shaman spell haste...

These are very specific, high level spells and only add about 10% more haste
RE: Haste stacking
# Sep 20 2002 at 3:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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hmm ... another nice and confusing haste-stack discussion with a lot of wrong informations :(.

please look at www.monkly-bussiness.com if you have questions about haste. There are many threats on this topic.

1) there are 3 (three) haste types that stack wich each other (not 2 as stated above from evquest)
spell + song + item

2) there is a hastecap you can't exceed (sorry, i don't know it exactly but i think it's 100%).

BUT there are a few highlvl songs and spells that allow you to exceed this cap (i think that's what evquest meant)

3) the haste of the Monk Epic is a SONG (that was also correct from evquest)

the haste of the WF is also SONG based and thats why they DON'T stack

4) the first question about the parsing .. here the explanation (humancoil)

The reason why you get a better result if you klick both (epic and WF) ist cause the effects are not only haste.
The haste itself dont stack, but the other effects (ATK, STR, usw.) will stack. So you have the same HASTE as if you only click your CF, but not the same ATK and STR.

If you have parsed the dmg you dish out, the reason is:

Shiverback Hide Sash:
31% haste (item)

WF:
25% haste (song)
35 STR
11 AC

CF:
40% haste (song)
40 ATK
12 AC

so ... if you click only WF:
56% haste, 35 STR, 11 AC

only CF:
71% haste, 40 ATK, 12 AC

WF and CF:
71% haste, 35 STR, 40 ATK, 23 AC

The STR only count if you not capped already (255 STR) but the 40 ATK make a noticable difference in your dmg. And thats the reason why you thought your "haste" stack.

If you parsed the delay as stated there could different reasons that you get this numbers:
1) parse over 1 Minute
cause both are song based they don't hold very long (i think 6 sec or something like this). The difference are 3/10 secs. So if you parsed over lets say 1 Minute you have to klick it 10 times. If you use both, you have to klick both 10 times. There could easy be a difference of a few 1/10 secs during small lags.
2) parse over 6 secs
if you logged only the time between the swings during the 6 secs the effect is on. Hm ... i don't thinks its very accurate. What weapons do you use. I think you will not get more than 3 swings (dly 20) in this time. And to calculate on only 3 swings doesn't sound very accurate to me :)
3) typical parsing tests as i understand them (i never done one by myself)
You activate your buffs and hit a mob over a time of a few minutes. You try to have the buffs up all the time. Let's say you hit on a soulbinder (he don't kill you and he will not die (but it's a bannable offence i think)) over 10 Minutes.

first time with CF buff, second time with WF+CF buff.

Than write a small program (or do it manually) that delete all double swings in your Logfile (swings with the same timestamp) and seperate your prim hand from your offhand (you should use two different weapons to make this easy (1HB & HtH)). Than you can count how often you hit (or miss) in the given time of 10 Minutes.

i hope this helped :),
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CF and WF
# May 13 2002 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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ok, first off this site has the zone where you get this wrong, its given to you by Cazic thule himself, so, it should be under the fearplane listing. I would also just like to give my opinion of this weapon. I have both my CF and the WF and i did the shackle of tynn again. i see ppl saying why would you want both CF and WF, umm look at the stats. 12 20 is **** good, now i use this weapon in the offhand for the simple reason that the 9/16 in primary with the bonus outdamages this weapon ( but not by much). but there is no dmg bonus in secondary. this weapon outdamages the 9/16 fists in secondary. secondly yes both effects stack, except for the haste. the CF has 40% haste and that overwrites the 26% or so from teh WF BUT everything else stacks the ac attack and str from both right clicks i get around 35ac 70 attack and 30str this is an awsome weapon. and its would be hard to get something better without having to kill in sleepers/ ToV/ and a few luclin zones. just MHO tho take it for what it is, nice dmg dly/ stats. half you ppl posting talk this weapon down, but the sad thing is, you prolly dont have anything near as good as this weapon. of course there is better, but does that mean everyone is gonna get that stuff, umm no. have a good day)
RE: CF and WF
# Mar 16 2003 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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It's not wrong... you can start the quest anywhere, really, in terms of item-gathering. But the actual information gathering begins in Cabilis.
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RE: CF and WF
# May 19 2002 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Have to agree with ya bro, this item is UBer tastic. Rather have this and another item, than bothering to buy 2. Besides, those ppl who talk this item are probably the ones who are too lazy too do it. Well work pays off, so get crackin you hypocrites.
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A Question
# Apr 02 2002 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok i was wondering if 1 it is possible to get whistling fists and celestial fists with right faction, 2 can human do whistling fists and 3 how hard is robe of lost circle to do twice so i could wear one after till i got velious BP? just wondering is all thanks
RE: A Question
# May 11 2002 at 8:54 PM Rating: Default
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To answer your first question, why would you want to get both celestial fists and whistling fists? Despite popular rumor, the whistling fists are NOT the iksar monk epic, it is used in celestial fists quest, by handing in your whistling fists instead of Robe of the Whistling Fists in TD. Also, your epic makes your fists have much better damage/delay than 12 20, and they are faster. Despite the fact that you dont get all those nice stats, your damage output will be extremly higher, and you to my knowlege the right clicks do NOT stack
RE: A Question
# Aug 29 2002 at 11:45 PM Rating: Decent
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uhhh.. because CF goes in a hand slot, and WF goes in a weapon slot? and becase 12/20 is a pretty nice ratio for the level at which you can attain the WF? and because they both have dang nice stats and resists? and because the effects DO stack (except for the haste portion)? and because the WF and the CF are two COMPLETELY separate quests, and you can NOT turn in your WF instead of a RoWF for the CF?

I'm pretty sure that the DPS from WF/SoS is higher than the DPS from a TStaff, even at lvl 57. I'm also pretty sure that if WF/SoM is better than Epic/WF (as has been stated elsewhere in this thread), then WF/SoS probably better, too, or at least very very close, and SoS is MUCH easier to get than SoM.
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RE: A Question
# Jul 22 2002 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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Why have both? Because in my opinion, unless you get your RoTWF MQ'd , getting whistling fists is an easier way to get to the epic (if your an iksar, as a human im going to do the robe path)
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RE: A Question
# May 18 2002 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok 1, Whistling Fists STACK With Celestial fists.. + Very Nice Stats.. now.. Why not get them? I mean the Dmg/dly is not all the bad.. yeah it kinda sucks but still Those stats are great
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Advice...
# Mar 25 2002 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, now i won't need to make this decision for awhile, but i thought i'd ask anyway. I was looking over the Epic description, and it seems as if i'll have to do a bit of faction work before being able to start it (iksar monk). What i'm wondering is, would this be a viable replacement to doing the epic? Especially considering that forgoing the epic in favor of this would allow me to keep RoWF.. add to that the shackle of tynnonium and well.. it'd be a pretty nice setup. Of course what may be a problem is, since the effect on this is the warsong, same as RoWF, would the robe still be worth keeping at that point? If not then might as well start on the epic. Anyway, just what's goin through my head atm.. i'd like to hear some opinions, human and iksar monk alike.
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RE: Advice...
# Mar 28 2002 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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So... you're considering WF, RoWF, and Shackle of Tynn over possibly CF, WF, RoLC, and Shackle of Tynn? Doing the Shackle of Tynn twice (which you've already indicated you'd do) isn't really that much harder than doing the RoLC twice, and the RoLC has stats, which the RoWF doesn't. The effect on CF will supercede the effect on both the WF and the RoWF (someone correct me if I'm wrong...) so there would be no point in turning in the RoLC.

My advice, get the WF then get the Shackle of Tynn again, get the CF then maybe go back and get the RoLC again, if you don't see yourself getting something better from one of the Velious quests by then. The faction work is a pain, but it can be done, and it's worth it to me to be able to bank in FP whenever I want.
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IKSAR FACTION
# Mar 22 2002 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Alot can be done about iksar faction....lets start with the basics.....loio gobby hunting..may take time but if ya have patients it can be done...of course bone chips but that is another time consuming quest...MM Snout Nose ring quest (non-stackable) need faction to walk in the door...will adjust all but necro guild factions if i rember right....scorpion pincher quest....iksar maurders will give ya faction for kill and also faction for quest...need to start early for the exp to go along with it but...can be done alter in life..help a lvl40 monk turn in stacks of bonechips and we where able to get him to dubious....so alot can be done
whats the haste
# Mar 21 2002 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
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this song will haste between 16% to 35% when sung
by bard. Im lvl 57 monk, how much haste will this give me?
effect
# Mar 15 2002 at 1:54 PM Rating: Default
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not to complain, grats monks on this uber item BUT it seems that they like to put bard effects on other classes items..though this is not the best of effects for an uber iten its still a bard one that increases str and speed..sure would be nice if they put some of those other classes effects on out bard items..what i wouldnt give for a wep or armor piece that has snare or a decent heal that does not take 30 seconds to cast..or a DD effect.all in all great item grats monks
RE: effect
# Mar 15 2002 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Um, actually, the only bard effects on *any* equipment are Johnathan's Whistling Warsong on these and the Robe of the Whistling fists, and those on *BARD* items.

Bards, however, have numerous items with effects from other classes, most notably from the magician.

There are arms that cast Cadeau of Flame (our 18pt DS), and boots that cast our 333d bolt.

When Kunark was first live, bards could summon food from their pants and water from their boots.

And you're complaining about a self only song being given to monks on an uber weapon?

sheesh. The minute int casters get a robe with Chorus of Replenishment, you can complain.

Edited, Fri Mar 15 16:43:48 2002
RE: effect
# Mar 25 2002 at 2:52 AM Rating: Default
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The Singing Steel Arms that you refer to don't cast Cadeau of Flame, they cast a 9 point DS (Shield of Flame, i believe it's called). The summoning of drink & water took so long that it was all but useless, which is why they changed them to cast low-level (but still quite useful) bard songs, making their original effects somewhat pointless to discuss. Finally, what bard boots exactly are you talking about that cast a 330 point mage DD?
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RE: effect
# Aug 10 2002 at 10:04 PM Rating: Good
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the only boots i know of that cast a 333pt mage dd are the boots of bladecalling (dropped by velketor) .. i could be off on exactly the damage of the spell they cast .. but i know they are mage only.

another thing that casts a 300ish mage bolt dd is the burnt staff from chardok, which again, is mage only.
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RE: effect
# Mar 24 2002 at 6:33 PM Rating: Decent
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ROFL< I saw a cartoon about the food pants on GU comics. HILARIOUS/ I also like the one about the two guys saying they would never follow a monk thru kelithin again! ,*two guys all beat up behind a monk who is perfectly fine* the monk says , c'mon guys i have to find something higher to jump off of! :P

The bard was like, let me summon some food in my pants here. oh man! they nerfed my pants! , or something of that like.. go to GU comics to see it :P


human
# Mar 14 2002 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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can human monks do this quest with good enough faction?
RE: human
# Mar 15 2002 at 6:50 AM Rating: Decent
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ya get faction with bone chips at the guards in FoB. G'luck humans
RE: human
# Aug 31 2002 at 10:05 AM Rating: Default
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Bone chips has got to be the hardest way to gain faction with cabilis. In LOIO, out from the the city of cabilis, there is a round tower. Inside are mobs called explorers, and an occasional lead explorer. They are green to 39, and about a 7 spawn. They come in 4 different styles, Barb male, Barb female, Wood elf male, and High elf male (lead explorer). The lead explorer is also a palidan with LoH ability. They drop up to 2plat and often drop ringmail armor. The lead explorer drops an explorers locket as a rare item, 6ac 3 int 3 wis 3 agi wt .1 all all effect compass, but its still fairly common. All explorers also drop an occasional explorers knife, no stats stackable no drop. The factions are legion of cab (troopers) up, pirates of gunthak up, wood elf and high elf warrior guild down, FV down.

After you have collected about 4 stacks of these knives, run towards cabilis, there is a series of ruins/buldings that consit of four pillars holding up a roof, kinda like whats at base of the ledge in Overthere. Under the pavilion at the far left of the canyon to cabilis, a trooper is stationed, you must not be kos to troopers in order to do this turn in, not sure how non-kos, but I started this at apprehensive. If I remeber right, the mobs name is Trooper Valusk, when you hail him he responds with some text about ridding the lands around cabilis of the explorers, bring back 4 knives to show your deed. Or somthing along that effect. Turn in 4 knives at a time, they can be in a stack of 4 or 1 per turn in box it works either way. Factions up, all of cabilis except brood of kotiz, factions down, none. The exp gain by this quest is minimal. My human monk went from scowl to threaten with about 32 knives, my necro mancer went from scowl to scowl after about 30 stacks of bone chips. After turning in about 5 stacks of knives my necro is now amiable to all of cab except necros. Hope this helps some people get their shackles and whistling fists.
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Ahh, mini epic
# Mar 13 2002 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
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What a beautiful piece of equipment. I must say, it's about time that those leezards starting contributing to the monkly brotherhood in some way! /laugh
Just kidding all you Iksar Monks. I have nothing against you guys, even though I'm a human myself. I used to think I did... but I think it's just most monks in general. We have several slackers and posers in our ranks, they've got to go. Anyways, this is very nice, but I'd like to know if the effect stacks with the epic. It would be even better if it did. Oh, and ogres are still fat. Hehe...
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Completed
# Mar 13 2002 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I completed this quest yesterday. I have to say that this weapon is very nice. I'm not much interested in the weapons you can get in Luclin...that's fine. I may go get one eventually. I did this quest for the satisfaction of DOING it.

From what I understand, you can not turn in this weapon in place of the robe turn in to get the Celestial Fists.

I completed this quest mostly solo. I was level 51 throught. I had a groups assist me on the Brother Balatin and Zhaoku fights only. I flopped my way to the Crypt in Sebalis when there was an UBER group there. They killed the Fallen Master after I did the turn in, and let me loot the Original Fist. The rest I was either solo or partnered with another 51 Monk. Time is the only major obstacle to getting this quest completed. Some of the camps are just plain boring(i.e. Fingered Skeleton in Kurns), but for the most part this quest is fun and very fulfilling. What other class can solo flop their way throught Howling Stones and Plane of Fear without too much concern? Stand and get a screenshot of yourself chatting with Cazic-Thule! Talk about fun!!

I am currently half way to getting my Tynnonium shackle again. With the stats on the WF and the Shackle...wow...very nice! =)

If you decide to do this quest, it is long, but worth it in my opinion. If you decide not to do the quest, that's ok too. My recomendation is to do it. =)


Edited, Wed Mar 13 13:32:13 2002
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ROTWF
# Mar 13 2002 at 4:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone know if this can be handed in, in place of the ROTWF for the epic?
Wooot! IMO ;P
# Mar 12 2002 at 11:04 PM Rating: Default
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I agree with etno on this one, to set all you flamers and what-not straight, I am an Iksar monk. Time for the Iksar monks point of view, because I'm the one doing the quest.

I love this weapons stats, I think that it would go good with the normal monk epic, or at least help a lot in getting to the monk epic.
I already have my steel shackle, Im going to go give it to the tome keeper to get the tomb and subquest for the second mark, and then I'm going to kill master Rinmark and get his mark, because I've already killed Master glox, and it was really fun.
I play this game for fun, the more cool shik I get, the more fun I have, and this looks fun, so I'm going for it, I'm up for the challenge, I happen to love playing EQ, and I love doing these quests. Kudos to all who support playing games for FUN. I'll see you when I have my epic, the Tynnonium shackle and a pair of Whistling Fists. Caio!
RE: Wooot! IMO ;P
# Mar 13 2002 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I pretty much agree. You know why iksar monks did their shackles and wore them. To prove they could. As an iksar monk if you saw another iksar monk wearing his/her shackles you knew what they went through to get those. So when I'm walking along and I see another monk with this on I'll know what he/she had to do to get it.
Now milerunner if you figure a way to wear two of these puppies you let me know I'd love to wear two of the same lore items. ;)
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RE: Wooot! IMO ;P
# Mar 13 2002 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking the same thing, while being really ****** at the people on the board at the same time, you said it all in that one paragraph ;p

I'm definetly going to be keeping my Tynonnium shackle until ive quested up to the steel shackle again, then I'll give up my tynnonium shackle to do the WF quest, and turn in my steel shackle to get another TYnnonium shackle, alas, its lore, so whatcha gonna do.. Im gonna do the shackle quest a nice comfy *third* time to get a steel shackle for my other wrist, so I will have Tynn shackle, Steel shackle, and WF. This could take a while ;p

I hope everyone enjoys my magelo profile, I drool at it often ;p..
RE: Wooot! IMO ;P
# Mar 25 2002 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, i'm not sure, as i've not done this quest, but from reading the description on Monkly-business.com it says that you get your tynonnium shackle back after you hand it to CT.. is that wrong, or has it been changed, or were people just unaware of this? It really doesn't matter to me at my level but i like to know what's ahead of me.
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RE: Wooot! IMO ;P
# Jun 24 2002 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Your Tynn shackle gets turned into the fallen monk in the seb crypt while doing the WF quest. You DO NOT get it back; Im redoing the shackle quest now to get my Tynn shackle back ..

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RE: Wooot! IMO ;P
# Mar 14 2002 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Well this at least makes me glad I already went back up to the bronze shackle after completing steel. So now I need to turn in Steel, get Tynonnium, request from bronze to steel again, turn in Tynonnium for Whistling fist, turn in steel for tynonnium again, and finally request to steel from scratch. Gonna make for some time.

Overall though I am very pleased with the progressional quests that they have worked up here of late. Its nice to see some quests that are worth our time and challenging to complete. Good luck and congratz to all who get this nice weap.

Powtro, 51 Iksar Monk
complainers
# Mar 12 2002 at 9:13 PM Rating: Default
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Ya know why complain about it if u dont want it or u got better then, dont do it, I looked up the quest it is a descently long quest but not all that hard, here is some info on glox first its not a lvl 60 guildmaster glox its a lvl 40ish mob that hits for around 50 max at lvl 60 i didnt lose a tick of health on him, the guy out in timorous is out in the open so u can take a whole crew if u want i lost 1 red of life these guys arent tuff this quest was implimented as a quest to do along your life as a monk follow the shackles if you start young your out getting exp the whole time your farming your items. yes there are better weapons out there but your not gonna go prance around and get them easily. If your gonna do this quest as it was implimented to be its gonna be very easy and your going to have alot of fun doing if your 50+ already yeah your killin greenies, just swallow hard and take it like a man, dont complain cause its not something u can to in 10 min.
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# Mar 12 2002 at 5:59 PM Rating: Default
/sigh

After reading Reallytired Boozehound's reply I must start looking into the possibility of somehow putting posters like him on /ignore so I dont have to read any future messages from them.

Master of the Rant?? Get a life.. you seem to have something to say but I really can't be bothered sifting through all your pre-pubescent drivel to find it.
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RE: /sigh
# Mar 13 2002 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
Most of the bad posts get filtered out with the default filter. I might miss some good posts, but I get less crap and still get most the information I want.
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#NorinMoo, Posted: Mar 12 2002 at 5:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The monk epic isn't song based. This is. Yesh, stackable.
stacking issues
# Mar 12 2002 at 3:27 PM Rating: Default
Does this stack with the monks epic?
If not I think it would be a waste as there are much better drops in luclin ratio wise even though this is better than level 60 fists and you could probably see the yoyo's with this equipped :)
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RE: stacking issues
# Mar 12 2002 at 4:25 PM Rating: Default
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this doesn't stack with epic. Reason being they are both song-based haste. Seems like this is a stepping stone item till monks get epic, since their fists become 9/16, which is better then this weap. But some may still use it for the stats alone, which are pretty darn good!
RE: stacking issues
# Mar 12 2002 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, first the base ratio of monk epic fists is NOT better than this weapon. Second with the monk epic's haste on this weapon, it becomes roughly 12/14, which is just a wee bit better than 9/16. Plus the stats and resists are a nice bonus.

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RE: stacking issues
# Mar 12 2002 at 10:05 PM Rating: Default
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Im not much for flaming ppl but, solaryn you are an idiot. this weapon would NOT become 12/14 with monk epic haste, the haste on the monk epic is 40% which would make it very close to 12/16 if you or anyone else think that seems strange, your an idiot and dont know how haste works in this game. and besides why the **** are you going to comepare this weapon WITH it hasted to 12/16 and then use monk fists unhasted at 9/16. with the haste of the epic alone the monk epic fists go down to about 9/12 so copare it that way.

And anyone willing to argue about that, either you are ignorant about the subject, or are just simply a moron.

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RE: stacking issues
# Mar 12 2002 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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The 9/16 is the dmg/delay of the hands when wearing the epic. The effective delay when taking into account the haste is better than that.

Anyway, 12/20 is a better ratio than 9/16. With 16 delay, you'd need 10 damage for same ratio. Think this will win in primary even with the bonus, definitely win in secondary. And, going unarmed means you don't get any stats from your weapons.
RE: stacking issues
# Mar 14 2002 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry to disappoint you,but unfortunately 9/16 is better ratio. 10/16 would be just insane hehe.
Actually thats why i m a lil bit disappointed myself about this weapon,i dont think i would take it over my shackles of steel since i have 9/16 and 14/18 weapons.Anyways the weapon isnt bad at all,not sure if its worth to do all this stuff to get it hehe.
RE: stacking issues
# Mar 14 2002 at 2:39 AM Rating: Decent
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9/16 = 11.25/20

12/20 is a better ratio
9/16 is just a lower delay
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RE: stacking issues
# Mar 19 2002 at 3:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Hehe ok i agree,it s better for offhand,but not for primary. Theoretically 12/20 is better ratio,but lets dont forget that primary hand has dmg bonus,which makes weapons with lower delay much more destructive even if they have slightly worse ratio.
RE: stacking issues
# Mar 24 2002 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Go to monkly-business.com

It has been all but proven that WF/SoM is more damaging combo than epic/SoM
RE: stacking issues
# Mar 12 2002 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Accutaly, the haste does NOT stack BUT, the stats do.
#arsage, Posted: Mar 12 2002 at 2:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) has anyone tried handing this in instead of the robe of the whistling fist to obtain the epic? This just looks like an easier way for iksars to do epic? no faction work...
#Dread Lord Surak, Posted: Mar 12 2002 at 4:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) now why would verant take away all the work you need to do for your epic? and just for monks?
#ReallytiredBoozehound, Posted: Mar 12 2002 at 4:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) YOU DUCKING FUMBASS! this quest will take you far longer than you could ever spend on a normal epic. thisd is largely because even for the third rung, people spend upwards of a day on the quest, then you ahve to forage a rare item from every zone in kunark. take into account that at least 2 of the mobs HAVE to be soloed, this quest is ******* insane and i dont care what you think. you obviously have no idea of how this item is attained. dont post if you have no cucking flue what you are talking about.
RE: alternate for robe?
# Mar 12 2002 at 8:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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None of the mobs in this quest "have" to be solo'd. There's an alternate way to get to Glox in Cab other than the port he does. Thats the only one I can think of.... As of spending upwards of a day (a WHOLE day) on the 3rd rung) SO what? Did you ever camp Raster? How about the putz in SolB? I know a few monks that have had to wait the full 80 hours to get those bastids to spawn. I laugh at your "whole" day. Lets see.....the foraging can be done in a few hours, just get a friend (druid/ranger) to help out. Last I knew none of the foraged things for this quest were no drop except the bark in Warsliks. Heh, with help from friends (know what those are?) a monk can get the Shackle of Tynn in a day and start working on the WF. Maybe you've never camped the ****** Chardok and Karnors pipes for the Robe but I have a few times, I'd take the WF quest over the RoTWF anyday. How about puting down the crack pipe and actually doing one of these someday? Or even better calm the **** down, posts like this just make you look like a moron.
RE: alternate for robe?
# Sep 16 2002 at 3:31 AM Rating: Decent
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It's still a good robe, if you have the patience to camp the two people.

As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, this quest here is an alternate way of getting the epic without having to deal with the human monks, so there's a version more in character with the iksar.

Also means if you started getting your epic the old fashioned way, you can keep your Robe of the Lost Circle (or of the Whistling Fists) and still get the epic without giving up your robe. Take your pick.

Though this was made primarily for the iksar, human monks can benefit from it too... now you can have the robe and the epic, without having to quest for the robe twice!
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RE: alternate for robe?
# Mar 29 2002 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
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If you are talking about going from steel to Tynnonium shackle in a single day then yes, way easy to do. If you are talking about going from scratch to tynnonium you are wrong. Granted not by much, but still incorrect.

The fingered bone skellie in kurn's is one of the time consuming camps in the series. It can take a day by itself if not two. He is a rare spawn, can go a couple of hours before you see him. He can drop the same finger several times and since you need all four, it can be rather time consuming. You may be able to luck up on someone who has been kiling him along with everything else in the area while camping the iksar berserker club(some ppl still do). But you will probaly have to spend the time there yourself camping them.

Sarnak courier may take a little time but shouldn't be to horribly long. Although I have heard of people going a day or so looking for just him.

The foraging part, without a druid can be time consuming. Not all of us have a druid at our beck and call making travel costly. I personally did all the running on my own time. Granted you may be able to find someone who has already been forging some of the peices, the non no drop peices that is. That will save some time. As I recall there may have been more than one no drop, but it has been a while. Recommendation here if I may, save yourself some time and get two of everything while you are getting them. That way if you go back later to do steel shackle again, you will have a much easier time of it.

You are right though Manaz, overall the shackle quest to tynnonium is way easier than the RotWF. I didn't mean to take away from your original post. With the time I spent on raster and trying to camp targin, I could have easily recompleted the shackle to tynnonium. Thankfully a guildie dropped targin and is going to mq that part with me. I still have the chardok and kc camps to complete. I will admit I am not looking forward to them. I know the camps will be a long. That said, good luck on WF those of you working on it.

Powtro 51 Iksar Monk
RE: alternate for robe?
# Mar 12 2002 at 5:56 PM Rating: Default
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Geeze... someone needs to lay off the coffee and go buy another pack of cigarettes... chill out bud, its nothing to get steamed over.

Edited, Tue Mar 12 17:55:19 2002
RE: alternate for robe?
# Mar 12 2002 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
If you hate really stupid people, you must REALLY hate yourself, huh? Look to yourself before you curse at others, punk. Introspection is good for monks and naughty little boys.
RE: alternate for robe?
# Apr 17 2002 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Sure it is better than the RoWF, but my question lies here, Is this a replacement of RoWF to get our epic CF? Or do I still have to camp those stoopid pipes and those that nuissance Raster and Targin? Really like to know, thanks
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RE: alternate for robe?
# Jun 28 2008 at 8:44 PM Rating: Default
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I realize this is an old post but I'm board so I'll address it, no this isn't a replacement for any part of the monk epic quest, also, this quest would not be a shortcut, it would eliminate a single long uneventful camp (Raster) with a series of much more challenging but in the long run I would say equally long camps, and running around the world from Karana, South Ro, and all over Kunark.

In short no this isn't a replacement for the Robe, and no even if it was it wouldn't be a short cut.

PS- How stupid do you have to be to spell it stoopid, whatever the reason, be it poor spelling or thinking you are cool in doing so?
#Dread Lord Surak, Posted: Mar 12 2002 at 4:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) now why would verant take away all the work you need to do for your epic? and just for monks?
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