Geonid Collective

The rock men, the Geonids are found in the Crystal Caves and in a cave in the Wakening lands. Indifferent to all to start, 10 kills will make your faction unrepairable.

Zones in which you can raise the faction

Zones in which you can lower the faction

NPCs you can kill to raise the faction

Quests you can do to raise the faction

NPCs you kill to lower the faction

Quests you do to lower the faction

Click here to report a correction
« Previous 1 2
Post Comment
Shimmering Geonid too
# May 05 2014 at 11:12 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
Avatar
**
313 posts
The shimmering geonids also are on this faction. Killing one drops your faction by -5.
____________________________
-----
Henrian Illinoid -
80th Level Half Elf 4000AAs/Epic 1.5
Ranger of Tunare - The Rathe
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=437223
How to gain faction if not indifferent
# Jan 13 2010 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
11 posts
Do the Velium Focus quest to get the Velium Focus from Normon Stonetooth. Then give it to the Phenocryst (in Wakening Lands) while in the trade use and invis potion and then he will accept the Velium Focus from you. I went from apprehensice to indifferent just after doing this once. Thank goodness!
what's the point?
# Mar 14 2003 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
*
231 posts
I'm just curious. Is there any point to this faction? Besides doing the quest which basically just improves your faction, (the exp is pitifull) is there some kind of advantage to not being KOS by them?
imune to charm
# Dec 15 2002 at 3:40 AM Rating: Default
47 posts
a friend of mine tried to do the 1st part of the quest with dubious faction, he called me for help, thinking an enchater 60 could charm Phenocryst but when i casted, it says "this NPC can not be charmed" ....
well, no way to change that :(
RE: imune to charm
# Jan 29 2003 at 5:49 PM Rating: Excellent
**
658 posts
The trick of having a friend cast invisibility on you while the trade window is open definitely still works. (What got nerfed was the ability to open a trade window with an NPC while invisible.)

Do the first part of this quest several times that way and you'll be able to do it without a friend to invis you. Eventually you can reach whatever faction level you wish.

This might even be possible if you're KOS to them if you can have a friend cast Harmony of Nature or something from the Lull/Pacify line on Phenocryst and his buddies to prevent them aggroing on you. This has been known to work in the past with some quest NPCs (Pandos the muffin-loving Dwarf in Freeport, for example).

RE: imune to charm
# May 14 2003 at 7:31 AM Rating: Default
*
126 posts
I have tried to do the first part over and over, becuase I was Dub, and had turned in the stone to the Phenocryst. It will not let me do it again...just my 2cp worth.
How to raise geonid faction:
# Nov 15 2002 at 4:03 PM Rating: Excellent
Scholar
*
92 posts
WARNING: You must be indifferent to complete the part of this quest that gives you geonid faction. Do this before you ruin your geonid faction or you might have trouble ever getting it back!

Now, what you are really doing is the beginning of the phenocryst focus quest ( http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=931 ).

1) Find Normon Stonetooth down in the back of the caves in Thurgadin. Tell him "I will do a favor". He gives you an axe that needs sharpening.
2) Take the axe to Harkon in the shop across from the bank. He will also need "a small piece of velium" along with the axe. (Bonus! This step gives you positive Dain faction, a rare thing.) He sharpens the axe and gives it back to you.
3) Take the new axe back to Normon Stonetooth. Recieve an item called velium focus.
4) Go to Wakening Lands, and into the middle of the geonid caves where you will find a big geonid in the middle called Phenocryst. Give him the velium focus, and recieve positive "Geonid Collective" faction and a smidgeon of XP.

Notes: It is possible to do this quest if you have bad faction, probably not if you are KoS though. It is definetly difficult though, so it is best to "fix" faction in advance. If you will be killing geonid(s) then do this first up to at least amiable. Be careful to watch and stop killing when you are indifferent, and raise your faction again. By some very approximate measures, I believe this quest to "undo" the killing of 4 geonids.

Edited, Fri Nov 15 15:42:25 2002
____________________________
Canto Wolfheart, 65th season Druid of Tunare, Quellious server
Raising Geonid Faction When KOS
# Oct 02 2002 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
I am kos so it appears im screwed? does anyone know how to alleviate this say ??? alliance and the invisibility trick mentioned while in trade window. I killed so very many geonids (lvl 40-47)also without knowing it was/is irrepairable (
any advice will be exponentially appreciated )
Thanks and LONG LIVE ENCHANTERS lol is that an oxymoron or what HEHE
____________________________
Coercer of Brell
Upping Faction
# Jul 12 2002 at 1:50 AM Rating: Default
6 posts
How about this:

The Phenlychrist is lvl 58. Get a 60 Enchanter to charm him. At this point, the Phenlychrist assumes whatever faction the Enchanter possesses (Make sure you choose and enchanter that is at least indifferent to you). At this point, do the trade, click give, and then immediately port both you and the enchanter out of zone to drop both the enchantment and the aggro.

Sandalin 53 wiz
FACTION
# Jun 22 2002 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
Well guys there has to ba another way to raise faction with these guys cause they fixed the invs / click thing. SO if anyone else has any ideas as to how to raise faction with them please reply to this post. I'm in dire need to finish this darn quest pronto.

Thanks
____________________________
Kueamen B'Hunter
65th Dark Elf Wizard Guilded By Blades of Veeshan in the Realm of Xegony
Faction?
# May 16 2002 at 2:54 AM Rating: Decent
14 posts
I killed nothing but Geonids from lvl 47 to lvl 48 ( thats alot of Geos ), and I'm still dubious to them. So not sure what all the talk is about Faction.
Faction Gain!
# May 09 2002 at 5:44 AM Rating: Default
In the caves there are some Goo... what out for them no matter what your faction with the Geos it they will all turn on you and start attacking you to save the goo.

Drizior
48 Mage, TM
fuzzumz
# Jan 31 2002 at 2:56 AM Rating: Default
ok ppl there is a way to fix faction belibve it or not the aqua goblin wizards that pop out of the watter in BBm give geonid faction...the only problem is i have no idea where to find LOTS of aqua gobyyy wizzys...anyone know a place to find lots of them..
RE: fuzzumz
# Mar 29 2002 at 8:37 PM Rating: Default
Sorry bud, but the Aqua Gobby Wizards give same factions as the other Aqua Gobbies and that doesn't include the Geonid Community that Phenocryst is on. Hunted them all day, and no go.
Geonid Faction
# Jan 02 2002 at 10:54 PM Rating: Default
I was apprehensive to Geonid faction, and have repaired it. Heres how:

Normally everone starts out indiff to geonid collective. When you complete the 1st part of the quest and hand in the Velium Focus from thurg, your indiff faction goes up to aimable, which is required to complete the quest. However if you are apprehensive or dubious, you must do the 1st part of the quest (handing in the velium focus from thurg) several times (2 for me at apprehensive) until you are aimable. if you just hand the focus to him at apprehensive or dubious he will eat it obviously, you need someone to invis you while you have the focus in pheno's trade window, after you are invis'd /con and make sure your indiff, then click give, you gain faction with geonid collective.

Keep doing this until you are aimable, then say "How can I help you?" If he says hes unsure etc etc your not good enough faction, go back to thurg. If he talks about the stones then you are OK, and can give him the stones to trigger the giants.

Hope this clears everything up

BTW invis/trade trick working as of 01/02/2002

Arkaan
56 Evoker
Bristlebane
RE: Geonid Faction
# Jan 24 2002 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
Arkaan,
I am 45th level wizard, and I killed Geonid's in my 30's, not knowing about the Phencryst...

Will this approach work for a Geo killer?
Geonid Faction
# Nov 27 2001 at 9:25 AM Rating: Default
I killed a few earlier on, w/o knowing about the Phenocryst Focus. My faction towards them last night was apprehensive.

First off, I did the beginning part w/ the axe a few times and confirmed it does NOT raise geonid faction.

Last night, I tried the part where you put the focus gem up in the trade window with Phenocryst, and then have someone invis you. That one try brought me up to indifferent. However, I still cannot do the quest because when I do that part again (normally w/o being invis'd) Phenocryst says something like they still are uncomfortable with me due to my vile ways (or something along that line.)

What faction do you need with them to do this quest? Do you have to be amiable with them? I'm assuming since I'm now indifferent, it's just like anyone else starting the quest for the first time w/o ever killing them, but it still doesn't work for me.

I also tried the invis/trade thing a second time, but lost the focus gem to Phenocryst and didn't get any exp, faction gain, or message from him. I'm guessing I clicked 'trade' 1 second too soon... right after I was invis'd. Has anyone else been able to do this again after they've become indifferent, AND, if so, were you then able to continue the quest?

PLEASE help... I really want to do this quest and hope I'm not permanently screwed. I was never Kos to them, just apprehensive and that one invis/trade brought me up to indifferent.

-Necro from E'ci wishing he never went to CC when he was younger, killing the poor geonids.
faction
# Nov 13 2001 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
While it says the geonid faction is unrepairable I did notice something strange involving my faction with them. About a month ago I hunted geonids in WL with a group and by the time we were done I was kos. Yet when I went back this week I conned dubious. I have no idea what I killed or quested in the interim to change my faction, but the fact remains that it did change. I'm going to try doing the first part of the quest just to see if that helps.
____________________________
Kailihn
Priestess of Povar
i got it
# Sep 02 2001 at 4:44 PM Rating: Default
i'm a chanter and i finish this quest.i feel so easy about this quest. i had cast allience on geonid it work !!!
Faction Problem
# Aug 18 2001 at 10:53 AM Rating: Default
Im sure the first part of the quest in Thug doesnt gain faction to the geonid it just gives Thug faction and giants ! I gave the focus to the quest NPC several times but it didnt reply or and faction came out..Anyone knows how to gain geonid Factions???
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 18 2001 at 10:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Im sure the first part of the quest in Thug doesnt gain faction to the geonid it just gives Thug faction and giants ! I gave the focus to the quest NPC several times but it didnt reply or and faction came out..Anyone knows how to gain geonid Factions???
10 kills is not death to faction
# May 29 2001 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
I have been using geonids to get good exp at 45 and have killed about 25 - 40 of them and am still apprehensive to them. I never really planned on doing the phenocryst quest.
RE: Faction
# Apr 16 2001 at 6:37 AM Rating: Default
you can kill a lot of them and you are able to "repair" your faction! but you have to keep an eye on it that your faction standing dont come threatengenly. but to con threatengenly last long. i killed quiet a lot and they were doubiously. then i did the first part of the quest 4times and now iam amiably 8). i think your faction raises one step every time u do the first part of the quest.
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 23 2001 at 12:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok heres how to raise faction...i was apprehensive to them (cause i killed one or 2 before) and couldnt do the quest..but i found a way to raise faction....first you have to get the velium fucos in thurgadin and than you take it to phenocryst..put it in the trade window but dont press give...than you get a friend to invis ya while your in the trade window than you press the give button..youll get a lill exp and a great faction increase with geonids...i went from app to amiable doing this once....good luck
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 23 2001 at 12:21 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok heres how to raise faction...i was apprehensive to them (cause i killed one or 2 before) and couldnt do the quest..but i found a way to raise faction....first you have to get the velium fucos in thurgadin and than you take it to phenocryst..put it in the trade window but dont press give...than you get a friend to invis ya while your in the trade window than you press the give button..youll get a lill exp and a great faction increase with geonids...i went from app to amiable doing this once....good luck
I found how to raise faction
# Mar 23 2001 at 12:21 AM Rating: Default
ok heres how to raise faction...i was apprehensive to them (cause i killed one or 2 before) and couldnt do the quest..but i found a way to raise faction....first you have to get the velium fucos in thurgadin and than you take it to phenocryst..put it in the trade window but dont press give...than you get a friend to invis ya while your in the trade window than you press the give button..youll get a lill exp and a great faction increase with geonids...i went from app to amiable doing this once....good luck
raising faction
# Mar 13 2001 at 8:04 PM Rating: Default
if you do the phenocryst focus quest, at least the first part, you can continousl raise faction
RE: raising faction
# Aug 09 2001 at 4:44 AM Rating: Default
the entire purpose of the first part of the quest is to get your faction to amiable so you can continue with the quest =)
RE: raising faction
# Mar 14 2001 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
No, doing the (pick axe) portion of the quest does NOT increase faction with Geonid collective. I know this for a fact, i went to CC and colected 30 small pieces of velium. then i went to the city and did the axe portino 29 times. the faction does not involve anything about geonids, and i am still apprehensive.
Why?
# Feb 19 2001 at 8:14 PM Rating: Default
I had no idea that the geonids were connected to an awesome quest. I can't believe I ran through that tunnel killing the geonids over and over in Crystal Caverns. Am I really doomed to having no chance at Phenocryst's Focus? =((( How depressing.
RE: Why?
# Mar 05 2001 at 1:48 PM Rating: Default
I dunno if this is true the Phenocryst cons aprhensive to me and I have killed bunches of them... Theres something someone is missing ... Hidden faction or something...
Boorn Bonedady
Lvl 52 Necro
Nameless
Faction
# Feb 15 2001 at 7:56 AM Rating: Default
Quote: "10 kills will make your faction unrepairable" Unquote.

Unrepairable would imply that it's, well, unrepairable... :/
« Previous 1 2
Post Comment

Free account required to post

You must log in or create an account to post messages.