Dain Frostreaver IV

The King of the Coldain Dwarves

The following quests require Dain Frostreaver IV faction

Quest Name Minimum Faction Required Maximum Faction Allowed
Tormax's Head - Dwarves Amiable

Zones in which you can raise the faction

Zones in which you can lower the faction

NPCs you can kill to raise the faction

Quests you can do to raise the faction

NPCs you kill to lower the faction

Quests you do to lower the faction

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Killing King Tormax
# Nov 30 2013 at 6:49 AM Rating: Good
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On Sept 14, 2001, Molydeus said [ The King Tormax Faction hit is huge; I started out threateningly to the Dain and after 2 King Tormax faction hits, I am now Allied to Dain Frostreaver IV.]

Just recently a friend of mine came back to the game and wanted to do shawl quest. but was scowls to Dain. We killed the 2 tormax guards, dlammaz and his phs, keldor dek'torek and fjoker frozenshard many times. the last time we did them we got to glares threateningly. 90 mins later we had king spawn finally - this was our goal to get him for the big hit. she jumped from just into glares to somewhere in amiable. That's a minimum 1600 faction increase - maybe as much as 2300. so you can call it 2,000 as a middle of the road guesstimate. if so, a 2nd hit of 2,000 would raise from mid - amiable to ally. but if they were both 1600 only (barely into amiable) then you would end up only warmly (amiable is 800, kindly 500 and warmly 700). so by my rough calculations, king is 1800 points minimum and 2300 max.
Killing King Tormax
# Apr 19 2015 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
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yeah. so much for guesswork. as already posted, today I saw KT killed and person said 750 pts. with his 2 guards each at 25 ( Klraggek and Velden)
Faction raise - no waiting
# Oct 07 2011 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
Check out the Giants, Giants, Giants quest. You can do the Kael cycle over and over 'til you hit ally.
Dain Frostreaver IV Faction
# Jun 27 2010 at 3:50 PM Rating: Good
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Klraggek the Slayer gave Dain faction on 6/27/2010.

He spawned to the right of Tormax's throne.
another for faction bonus
# Jul 21 2007 at 7:25 AM Rating: Decent
Fjokar Frozenshard improved Dain faction on 7/21
Missing Dain
# Aug 24 2005 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone ever find him missing for days at a time? I havent seen him since friday 08/19/05 and really want to finish this 9th ring.
...
# May 26 2004 at 2:00 AM Rating: Decent
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His name is Dain and he is a dwarfking?
LoL, it reminds me of a certain book!
I'm not sure but...
# May 23 2007 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
I don't think Dain is a name. It seems to me that it is a political title. I don't think he's Dain, I think he's the Dain.
...
# Nov 24 2006 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
Dáin comes from Norse mythology. Tolkien borrowed it.
RE: ...
# Nov 08 2004 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
Heheh, in this case Dain is a title.

But (if by chance you ever read this thread again), out of curiosity, to which book are you referring?
RE: ...
# Jun 08 2006 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I know this post is ancient, but the reference is to Dain Ironfoot, king of the dwarves (Lonely Mountain) from the Hobbit.
Restoration of Dain Faction
# May 12 2004 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I am attempting to go from KoS on Dain IV and Coldain, to apprehensive. Are any of these quests achievable while still KoS to Dain IV? If not, is there another way I can get the faction hit from someone else?

One person had mentioned that he received a faction hit from a grouped member turning in their items for the shawl quest. I don't know if there is any validity to this, however, at this point I am willing to give anything a shot.

I am not so worried about the Coldain faction, as I can just kill a few thousand giants. Its just the Dain faction that's killing me.
RE: Restoration of Dain Faction
# Nov 02 2004 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
step 1: bring up your coldain faction with the giant killing. save all heads and toes.

step 2: do some coldain quests, such as the first couple shawls & rings, again and again to boost your dain faction. the heads and toes obtained during the giant whacking will help out here.

#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 31 2003 at 7:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Need some help on this. i have helms to hand in but stupid guards are kos, threatiningly. I cant kill tormax yet, so what can I do?
factions
# Jan 31 2003 at 1:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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There are actually 8 factions in Velious.

Kromzek (Giants with short stubby beards)
Kromrif (Giants with long beards)
King Tormax
Coldain (All of Thurgadin and about half of Icewell Keep)
Dain Frostweaver IV (Dain, Seneschal, and the rest of his personal guards)
Claws of Veeshan (Most dragons in Velious)
Guardians of Veeshan (NToV mobs that will kill you. Period. To my knowledge, there is no way to raise this faction)
Yelinak

Killing Coldain:
+Kromrif
+Kromzek
-Coldain
-Dain Frostweaver IV

Killing Claws of Veeshan
+Kromzek
-Claws of Veeshan
-Yelinak

Killing Guardians of Veeshan (NToV mobs)
-Claws of Veeshan
-Guardians of Veeshan

Killing GD and EW giants
-Kromzek
-Kromrif
+Coldain
+Claws of Veeshan

Killing Kromzek giants inside Kael
-Kromzek
-Kromrif
-King Tormax
+Claws of Veeshan

Killing Kromrif giants inside Kael
-Kromzek
-Kromrif
-King Tormax
+Coldain

Killing Yelinak
+King Tormax
-Yelinak
-Claws of Veeshan
-Government of Veeshan (maybe, probably, but don't know first hand)

Killing King Tormax
-King Tormax
-Kromzek
-Kromrif
+Yelinak
+Dain Frostweaver IV

Killing Dain Frostweaver IV
+King Tormax
-Coldain
-Dain Frostweaver IV

This is a very very impromptu list and I'm not 100% sure if there are any factions incorrect here, but please make corrections.

The main part is Coldain and Giants are enemies (Primarily Kromrif) and Dragons and Giants are enemies (Primarily Kromzek). The Coldain and Dragons are not associated with each other and to my knowledge are neither allied nor enemies. They're never near each other so it doesn't matter. Take note that killing any of the 3 major bosses does NOT raise the general factions of the opposing race(s)

Edited, Mon Apr 28 20:41:56 2003
RE: factions
# Apr 29 2004 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
I think killing Kromrif giants inside Kael is
-Kromzek
-Kromrif
+Coldain
+Claws of Veeshan

(just like killing them in GD/EW)

Also, I've heard that these give like +5 to coldain and only +1 to CoV, whereas killing the Kromzek give +5 to CoV (and nothing for coldain). So, if you're after CoV faction, those are the ones to try to kill
RE: factions
# Mar 20 2003 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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One other faction within Velious too is the dwarfs in Crystal Caverns, believe its called froststone
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RE: factions
# Dec 15 2014 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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And their enemies, the Ry'Gorr orcs.
faction confusion
# Aug 28 2002 at 3:12 PM Rating: Default
ok, im a little screwed up on this, so i hope someone will see my post and help me out on this. i didnt really know where else to post this, so im sorry if its a little off topic. im probably talking out my butt, so any info one this would help.

this is just what i was told, is any of it right? In velious there are 3 main factions, dwarfs, dragons, and giants. the giants are good for weapons, dragons for armore, and dwarfs for money ( i think thats how i was told). if you kill the dragons the giants and dwarfs will like you, if you kill giants the dwarfs and dragons will like you, and if you kill dwarfs the dragons and giants will like you.

is any of that correct? feel free to call me a jackass while reading this, cause i dont think i got any of this infor correct
RE: faction confusion
# Oct 01 2002 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
This is a general rule of thumb. There are exceptions to all of these (example, killing dragons in NToV doesn't effect giant faction but will trash dragon faction).

Giants don't like Dwarves or Dragons so killing Dwarves and Dragons raises Giant Faction.

Dwarves don't like Giants but don't really care about Dragons so killing giants raises Dwarf faction.

Dragons don't like Giants so killing Giants also raises Dragon faction. Dragons are neutral to Dwarves so you don't gain or lose killing dwarves with the dragons.

It is quite possilbe over your characters "career" to have both Dwarf and Dragon factions up. It is also possible to get both Dwarf and Giant factions up.

Getting all 3 is virtually impossible to do because in the raising of 1 you lose to another but 2 of the 3 can be tanken to max ally.

Hope this helps and ciao for now,

Kothall Landrunner
60th Level Druid
RE: faction confusion
# Dec 15 2002 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
to make this as simple as possible

kill giant = +coldain +dragon
kill dragon = +giant
kill coldain = +giant

at the start, you're going to be either allied with giants or with coldain & CoV.
if start by killing giants, later you can kill coldain or dragons to bring giants back up while knocking out either coldain or dragons (or both).
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 02 2002 at 4:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not going to flame you or anything just correct what you heard from what I know.
RE: faction confusion
# Nov 24 2002 at 1:53 AM Rating: Decent
YOu don't lose faction with Dragons for killing coldain.
Slow but Steady
# Jul 19 2002 at 3:22 PM Rating: Excellent
There is another quest that raises Dain faction. It is the first step in the Phenocryst quest. It completely resides within thurgadin so it can be repeated about every 60 seconds. The trick is to bind next to the blacksmith shop near the bank. The only thing needed to do this quest is a small piece of velium, in other words, go farm a bunch in CC and then repeat the quest as many times as pieces of velium you have. The hit seems to be quite small but a faction hit is a faction hit.I must have had horrible faction to start with as I have done the quest around 45 times with no advancement from KoS. Maybe I am close though :)
raising faction
# May 31 2002 at 3:49 AM Rating: Decent
From dubious to Indiff just doing 1st and 2nd shawl quest 3 times each. And this 2 quests are quite easy, so ..

Just need 1 or 2 KT deaths to be ready to 8th :)
How much of a hit
# Apr 10 2002 at 3:30 PM Rating: Default
Well i was max KoS from killing the dain twice till i realized i was gonna do the coldain ring quest. I raised the coldain faction fine but to get the 9th i need more dain faction. I killed tormax and am still at scowls. Anyone know how many more times i hafta kill him???
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 09 2002 at 9:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LISTEN! THEY ARE TELLING YOU THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO RAIZE FACTION
Raising Faction:
# Sep 14 2001 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
Two methods to Raise Dain Frostreaver IV faction:

1) Do Coldain quests (small hits)
2) Slay King Tormax and those giants on the same faction as Tormax (his Guards, for instance)

The King Tormax Faction hit is huge; I started out threateningly to the Dain and after 2 King Tormax faction hits, I am now Allied to Dain Frostreaver IV.
RE: (ANOTHER) Raising Faction:
# Apr 24 2004 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
Give Chamberlain Krystorf (in Icewell Keep) 4 giant warrior helmets (various Giants in Kael). You gain faction and money.

+Coldain
+Dain Frostreaver IV

~Tyleza

Note: These helmets also can be given to Lieutenant Milven to raise Yelinak faction (Skyshrine).
yes
# Sep 11 2001 at 1:52 PM Rating: Default
kill tormax
Dain IV Faction
# Aug 26 2001 at 8:14 PM Rating: Default
The first four parts of the Coldain Prayer Shawl Quest raises this faction. Feed the Coldain does it for each step of the quest =)
Good faction.
# Aug 14 2001 at 10:12 AM Rating: Default
The ring quests do increase faction but by very little. So little I have had about 30 increases but still dubious.

I have been told that lvl 55 giants also give good Dain faction.
To raise
# Jun 26 2001 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
Kill Tormax or Yelinak
RE: To raise
# Aug 11 2001 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
You say that like it is easy!?!?!
RE: To raise
# May 30 2002 at 9:02 AM Rating: Default
u try getting 8000 somthing toes to the guy in the cleric's guild for the shawl quest :P
#Anonymous, Posted: May 15 2001 at 5:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dain faction can only be raised through quests.
#Anonymous, Posted: May 10 2001 at 3:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Is there no way to increase Dain Frostreaver faction?
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