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Claws of Veeshan
Killing in Kael, I went from Scowling to Dubious killing enough to collect 3 bags of helms and toes and turning them in to Lieutenant Milven
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As a pally I ran round GD, EW, KD etc casting quick light heals on people fighting them, had SoW on and light heals cost hardly any mana. Due to me not hitting and only healing the other players I got no complaints and raised my faction in no time, especially in KD. No danger to myself either and even healed raid parties. Killing them myself was too time consuming and stopped once i had enough heads and toes for Coldain Shawl Quest.
'The only thing I cannot resist is temptation.', Oscar Wilde.
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Dionna in South Qeynos also give postive ROS faction TY
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Fastest Way to check faction is port to Cobalt Scar and con a wyvern or a cobalt drake.
You can turn in if your faction is still dubiosly.
i hand him a mix of ~45 frost/storm giant toes and around 50 helmets and go from low dubiosly to high kindly.
You can turn in if your faction is still dubiosly.
i hand him a mix of ~45 frost/storm giant toes and around 50 helmets and go from low dubiosly to high kindly.
What's the easiset way to check your CoV faction without getting killed? I assume it's CS and con a wyvern?
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And remember, it takes many kills to become max ally, but can also take VERY few to make yourself KOS.
Gibakor
65 Warrior of Fennin Ro.
*Classes are not out of balance, the people that play them are. - Me*
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11 posts
I went from KoS to ally in 3 raids.
The first 2 times I went and hunted giants just inside Kael with a small group for several hours. Went from scowling to threatening.
The next time I tagged along on a raid with another guild -- Note: Vindi is NOT a big faction hit. He gives the same faction as all other arena giants. -- But hitting each giant along the way for faction was very helpful. Went from threatening to dubious.
3rd time I joined up for a full-fledged arena raid with my guild. We stayed there 4-5 hours and just constantly killed the entire arena except Vindi. I went from dubious to amiable here.
Then, since I'd been away several months, pretty much everyone else had higher CoV faction, so my guildies very kindly gave me the 19 Giant Warrior Helms and 20-25 toes that dropped in the arena. I turned these in and went from amiable to ally, and able to do the SS armor quests.
Note -- even with faction-buff (Collaboration), I am still not MAX ally.. but ally nonetheless.
The first 2 times I went and hunted giants just inside Kael with a small group for several hours. Went from scowling to threatening.
The next time I tagged along on a raid with another guild -- Note: Vindi is NOT a big faction hit. He gives the same faction as all other arena giants. -- But hitting each giant along the way for faction was very helpful. Went from threatening to dubious.
3rd time I joined up for a full-fledged arena raid with my guild. We stayed there 4-5 hours and just constantly killed the entire arena except Vindi. I went from dubious to amiable here.
Then, since I'd been away several months, pretty much everyone else had higher CoV faction, so my guildies very kindly gave me the 19 Giant Warrior Helms and 20-25 toes that dropped in the arena. I turned these in and went from amiable to ally, and able to do the SS armor quests.
Note -- even with faction-buff (Collaboration), I am still not MAX ally.. but ally nonetheless.
19 posts
do named giants in GD give more faction then the lower ones?
Edited, Wed Aug 27 03:33:56 2003
Edited, Wed Aug 27 03:33:56 2003
9 posts
Can someone please explain the significance of raising/lowering CoV faction? I am sensing the need to visit WW to aquire higher level (59+) shaman spells though I do not understand the ramifications of the CoV faction hits that seem inevitable. Will I need to rebuild faction if I trash it by attacking Dragonkind? If so, why? Before flaming me as a noob, I am Iksar shaman with little experience beyond Kunark....thanks in advance for your response(s).
9 posts
The importance of either positive or negative Cov faction is for the Velious Quests in Skyshrine and Kael (indirectly). By raising CoV faction (best method: killing giants in Kael) and hunting in HoT (Hall of Testing in Temple of Veshan) you can complete some very nice Armor quests in Skyshrine. By fighting in Skyshrine, thus lowering CoV faction you raise Kael (Giant) faction and can complete Kael Quests which also net nice SETS of armor. The components for the Skyshrine armor drop in HOT and the components for Kael armor drop in the West area inside Temple of Veshan. The Kael armor has slightly greater Ac then the Skyshrine armor. The Skyshrine armor has slightly higher stats and mana which is prefered by Casters. Both sets of armor are far better the the Thurgadin Quested armor and MUCH better then the armor sets from Plane of Fear and Hate.
There are numerous additional quests involving Cov faction not directly related with the armor quests and the eventual result is that most will go Negative faction in order to fight in North Tov and in Sleepers tomb. Both of which will yield greater items then West ToV and East (Hot) Tov.
There are numerous additional quests involving Cov faction not directly related with the armor quests and the eventual result is that most will go Negative faction in order to fight in North Tov and in Sleepers tomb. Both of which will yield greater items then West ToV and East (Hot) Tov.
At that level, many people are interested in raiding HoT (halls of testing) in the Temple of Veeshan. HoT is the part of the zone where there are no faction hits. If you were to fight there KoS however, you'd get enough adds to wipe out a small village..
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I was KoS merely 3 hours ago on CoV faction, the trick is to find out when a high end guild is raiding Kael. They went and fought the Avatar of War and all of his buddies and all I had to do was tag the Mobs along the way. Go to upper end guild websites or just do a /who all "<guild>" on some powerful guild name and ask if/when they are raiding Kael.
Whenever of the guilds on my server are doing the 10th ring quest i just run around and poke The giants a few times and heal people tanking. be sure to poke Narandi the Wretched too. easy faction Upgrade
Edited, Wed Mar 26 05:50:38 2003
Edited, Wed Mar 26 05:50:38 2003
OK so from what everyone says, what I should do is 1) aggro and train around a bunch of drakkel wolves and wait for people to pick them off one at a time as they need them, 2) join a group in Kael (if you can find a spot) 3) if there is a ring war going on, stand there and shoot off a low level spell at all the mobs. The Kael Mobs give 5 times the factions of the EW and GD mobs but the GD mobs are a lot easier to kill (especially if you train them to Thurg zone where the dorfs will kill them).
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FOM, you are obviously not pulling fast enough.
FOM, you are obviously not pulling fast enough.
Here is THE BEST wqay to improve your faction. I went from Threatening to dubious in less than an hour. Go into Kael and tag along on a raid if people are going after vindi or statue or AOW. all the mobs you have to kill on the way there give HUGE faction hits and I went from KOS to dubious just by taggin along (thanky ou lost order of aka.... for letting me tag along and even letting me get in on some of the loot).
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FOM, you are obviously not pulling fast enough.
FOM, you are obviously not pulling fast enough.
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Anyone any idea what you have to con to be able to do the CoV faction turn-ins in Skyshrine? I con apprehensive but they still arent talking to me. I have lots of Ogre Mercenary Assignments to hand in, but if I have to con ally to do even the faction quest, it's pointless having them.
Edit:
BTW - the named mob I meant to refer to for the hand in was Lieutenant Milven. Tried him and one of the 'new' sentries - same result. I hailed him and he just abused me lol. I then just handed one of the assignments anyway and got no response.
Do I need to be at least indifferent?
Edited, Sun Dec 1 05:40:32 2002
Edit:
BTW - the named mob I meant to refer to for the hand in was Lieutenant Milven. Tried him and one of the 'new' sentries - same result. I hailed him and he just abused me lol. I then just handed one of the assignments anyway and got no response.
Do I need to be at least indifferent?
Edited, Sun Dec 1 05:40:32 2002
Choonz
Troubadour on the Everfrost server
Troubadour on the Everfrost server
New faction/quest sequence for Skyshrine since the November 2002 patch
"Entry" quest available at all factions:
1. Kromzek Mercenary Brooches http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2284
2. You may be able to turn in Giant Warrior Helms and Frost Giant Toes to Lieutenant Milven for faction starting around dubious.
Quests that require kindly faction:
1. Ancient Dragon Tome http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2286
2. Draconic Fellowship Drum http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2282">
3. Draconic Fellowship Horn http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2278
4. Draconic Fellowship Lute http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2280
5. Helms of Giant Warriors http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=982 NOTE quest giver is now Lt. Milven
6. Mask of Draconic Enhancement http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2276
Quests that require warmly faction:
1. Leuz's Task http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1255
2. Mercenary Captains (quest details submitted but not in database yet... see Mercenary Brooches discussion thread for details for the time being)
3. Notorious Mercenaries http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2277
Note that these are faction levels required to receive the quest text. There are reports of quest turn ins being accepted with lower faction for some of the quests - see the individual quest discussions for the latest information.
"Entry" quest available at all factions:
1. Kromzek Mercenary Brooches http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2284
2. You may be able to turn in Giant Warrior Helms and Frost Giant Toes to Lieutenant Milven for faction starting around dubious.
Quests that require kindly faction:
1. Ancient Dragon Tome http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2286
2. Draconic Fellowship Drum http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2282">
3. Draconic Fellowship Horn http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2278
4. Draconic Fellowship Lute http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2280
5. Helms of Giant Warriors http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=982 NOTE quest giver is now Lt. Milven
6. Mask of Draconic Enhancement http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2276
Quests that require warmly faction:
1. Leuz's Task http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=1255
2. Mercenary Captains (quest details submitted but not in database yet... see Mercenary Brooches discussion thread for details for the time being)
3. Notorious Mercenaries http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=2277
Note that these are faction levels required to receive the quest text. There are reports of quest turn ins being accepted with lower faction for some of the quests - see the individual quest discussions for the latest information.
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Answered part of this myself. I took some frost Giant toes to Lt Milven. Whilst he just abuses me verbally if I hail him, when I handed in the toes I got the required faction hits.
So the question now is, have VI nerfed the mercenary assignment turn ins - or is it bugged?
So the question now is, have VI nerfed the mercenary assignment turn ins - or is it bugged?
Choonz
Troubadour on the Everfrost server
Troubadour on the Everfrost server
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Edited, Sat Nov 30 15:51:30 2002
Choonz
Troubadour on the Everfrost server
Troubadour on the Everfrost server
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More faction questions for COV. I've been hunting in CS and SF a lot lately to get to lvl 53. I don't ever recall ever seeing a COV faction hit, however I'm kos to WOUSHI and everything in SS. I have never killed any of the Named mobs in CS. I'm a Half Elf Druid, do we start out KOS to COV?
Would love to start doing the quests in SS but they don't want to play nice...
Would love to start doing the quests in SS but they don't want to play nice...
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You don't need to kill the named mobs in CS to lose CoV faction. The Azure Drakes are on that faction also, although the wyverns are not (but the named wyvern Yvolcarn obviously is).
Everyone starts out with crappy CoV faction, regardless of race/class. It also seems to raise more slowly than dwarf faction, so don't think that because you're ally to dwarves that you'll be in good with the dragons as well.
Caliban
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I know what you mean. I have long since been kindly to the dwarves and have yet to even hit dubious with the dragons. I hope to get them next. Who needs the giant faction anyway. Ill get my rings and the shawl from the dwarves and get my armor from SS. Besides i dont like giants. what can i say, its the view. Id rather not have to stare at a creatures crotch while talking to it.
If you can stare a giant in the crotch, you're doing a helluva lot better than I am. I'm lucky if I ever see their kneecaps...
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Scholar
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I have been working forever on my CoV faction. I am now at the point of dubious to both CoV and RoS. While working on this faction I have become ally in Thurgadin to the point where my faction could not get any better, kos to the kromrif to the point that my faction could not get any worse, and so kos in Mistmoore that it could not get any worse if I sold my soul to Mistmoor himself. And I'm still freaking dubious!!! Well, at least I can walk through all of the dragon cities unmolested.
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atm I am ally with Coldain and still KoS with CoV so your analogy about wolf form and warmly/dubious doesn't hold water at all.. I have daily been killing in GD and tagging everything I can. wolf or giant, and still have seen absolutely No movement at all in CoV faction cons... all I ever see is "Claws of Veeshan got better"...
and yes I have killed extensively throughout GD, EW, Kael, and WL.. in the last week alone more than 1000 hits without a blip of change
and yes I have killed extensively throughout GD, EW, Kael, and WL.. in the last week alone more than 1000 hits without a blip of change
Dantay-Lothar
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Tagging/killing in Kael is definitely the way to go.
But while you're working on that Coldain faction, get lots of trader satchels and save your frost giant toes. Once you're apprehensive to CoV, you can take the toes to Sentry Kcor in SS (the WL entrance).
I had just made apprehensive. Turned in 12 toes. Got half a blue XP (at level 47) prolly 60 plat, and a jump to indifferent.
SO killing FG's will help your Coldain faction way more than your CoV. But it's an investment. Although the fast track to good CoV faction for sure is going to Kael to get hits.
Fraank Zaappa
Level 47 Wizard
Prexus Server
But while you're working on that Coldain faction, get lots of trader satchels and save your frost giant toes. Once you're apprehensive to CoV, you can take the toes to Sentry Kcor in SS (the WL entrance).
I had just made apprehensive. Turned in 12 toes. Got half a blue XP (at level 47) prolly 60 plat, and a jump to indifferent.
SO killing FG's will help your Coldain faction way more than your CoV. But it's an investment. Although the fast track to good CoV faction for sure is going to Kael to get hits.
Fraank Zaappa
Level 47 Wizard
Prexus Server
Ralston Purina
Mith Marr Lord Protector
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"So many Undead. So Little Time"
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"So many Undead. So Little Time"
22 posts
actually thers a trader in PoK that sells Deluxe toolbox... much lighter than the trader sachels with the same number of slots... same guy that sells batteries
42 posts
Best way I have found to raise CoV faction is to be in Great Divide during a Ringwar and hit as many mobs as you can with a low level spell. Went from apprehensive to indifferent with one war and from amiable to ally with second war. Works great. P.S. Try not to use Flash of Light because it really ticks them off and these are tougher than normal (red to level 40) Giants.
Edited, Tue Sep 17 00:10:51 2002
Edited, Tue Sep 17 00:10:51 2002
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~O~ knowledged ones,
Here's something that has been bugging me..
I have heard that fighting in SF can actually lower your CoV faction though the faction hits aren't direct CoV hits...
Fact or Fiction?
hopin' fiction..
Here's something that has been bugging me..
I have heard that fighting in SF can actually lower your CoV faction though the faction hits aren't direct CoV hits...
Fact or Fiction?
hopin' fiction..
7 posts
Fiction. The faction in Skyfire is Ring of Scale, not Claws of Veeshan.
A great way to raise faction with Ring of Scale is to hunt in Mistmoore.
A great way to raise faction with Ring of Scale is to hunt in Mistmoore.
Uhrlik Rosenblade
Nameless Server
Nameless Server
#kraal,
Posted: Mar 31 2003 at 4:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Fact. You have no clue what you're talking about Uhrlik.
7 posts
Really? You think so?
First, look up there in that list and show me one thing that you can kill in SKYFIRE that will lower your CoV faction.
Second, show me a better zone to raise your Ring of Scale faction than Mistmoore. Most if not all creatures in MM raise Antonican Bards and Ring of Scale.
For a level 58 you certainly haven't played the game much. Did you jump on the Kunark Express?
First, look up there in that list and show me one thing that you can kill in SKYFIRE that will lower your CoV faction.
Second, show me a better zone to raise your Ring of Scale faction than Mistmoore. Most if not all creatures in MM raise Antonican Bards and Ring of Scale.
For a level 58 you certainly haven't played the game much. Did you jump on the Kunark Express?
Uhrlik Rosenblade
Nameless Server
Nameless Server
Storm giants in WL are awesome faction. Hunted for maybe 3-4 hours at most and went from KoS to Dubious with dragons. Only killed maybe 5 named, mostly just the escorts.
good hunting
9 posts
The EASIEST way I have found to get your CoV faction is to get a druid or wizard to Teleport (or Translocate if you have gate) you to Cobalt Scar. Walk outside the portal and con a Wyvern or Drake. These MoBs are on CoV faction. NOW, you CAN kill these mobs with NO CoV Faction HIT. If you want to quad kite these MoBs for xp go ahead NO FACTION HIT at all. But they ARE on CoV Faction if you want a quick test of your CoV faction. Also go to Wakening Lands and con Whoshi if she is up.
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Kudelini
Sol Ro
Just my 2cp
Kudelini
Sol Ro
Go to WL and con Wuoshi? Yeah I did that tonight to test my CoV faction. If Wuoshi kills you immediately when you land, you're still KOS. If you survive, you're ok. :-)
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LMAO So well put!
7 posts
To clarify, none of the wyverns or drakes will give you faction hits, but don't kill the named drake or the named wyvern, they'll lower your CoV faction.
In East Wastes at the giant area near where people hunt ulthork, there are also some mobs called An Ogre Mercenary. When you kill them you lose faction with the Kromrif, the Kromzek, King Tormax, and gain it with the Claws of Veeshan. Also, they drop two no drop items basically every time but I have been unable to find what they are used for. The items they dropped were Mercenary Assignments and a Kromzek Mercenary Brooch. If anyone has any idea what they're usaed for it'd be appreciated if they would post so here.
Galgond Cloudburst
Druid of the 42nd Season
Galgond Cloudburst
Druid of the 42nd Season
The assignments are turned into one of the sentries in SS for faction quest. not sure on the broach.
good hunting
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 16 2002 at 9:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I will tell you How to start at indifferent with COV- go to Sullon Zek, start a monk of veeshan(or bard, no big deal)and when you get high enough got to velious.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 20 2002 at 5:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am helping slow these giants by the wiz ring what's this about manners?
11 posts
So everyone is KOs at first with CoV? Regardless of race or religion? I was told once that if you are a Rallos Zek follower your not KOS in Kael or something? Any ideas? I am gonna start a new ogre warrior and wanna know if I should go Ag, Cazic or rallos.
Thanks for the info...
Thanks for the info...
Scholar
32 posts
I am a Rallos Zek Ogre Shaman, and I started out at Dubious to the giants without any faction hits.
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Anonymous
Is there a way to raise Kromzek and CoV faction?
Apparantly you can use the heads that are dropped from the creatures in the Thurgadin mines to gain Kael faction without losing a lot of Thurg faction until you are ready to turn in the heads, but...
Is it even possible to "cheat" in such a way that you can raise CoV and Kael at the same time?
I was always under the impression that you could, but most guilds on my server go for +CoV and +Coldain, so I haven't had any first-hand experience with it.
Apparantly you can use the heads that are dropped from the creatures in the Thurgadin mines to gain Kael faction without losing a lot of Thurg faction until you are ready to turn in the heads, but...
Is it even possible to "cheat" in such a way that you can raise CoV and Kael at the same time?
I was always under the impression that you could, but most guilds on my server go for +CoV and +Coldain, so I haven't had any first-hand experience with it.
Decide which faction you want first: CoV or Kromzek.
If Kromzek, start by killing Dorfs til you're Amiable or better. Then start killin off the Giants til you're Amiable to Dragons. Finally, kill off more dorfs.
If CoV, kill Giants right away til CoV is amiable, then kill Dorfs for a living.
If Kromzek, start by killing Dorfs til you're Amiable or better. Then start killin off the Giants til you're Amiable to Dragons. Finally, kill off more dorfs.
If CoV, kill Giants right away til CoV is amiable, then kill Dorfs for a living.
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Xalmat
Xalmat
Scholar
16 posts
Don't look at it how to cheat, but the best way about changing this faction I have come across is very simple. Go to Kael, find a group and ask if you can snare (or use a lvl 1 spell) on each mob to obtain CoV faction. The best I can tell so far, is the deeper into Kael you go; the better the faction is.
Hope this helps,
PhantomStar
Hope this helps,
PhantomStar
18 posts
I liked someone's idea of trying to go in and get a single hit/low lvl dmging spell on Tormax while an uber guild is raiding for the impressive faction hits. My question is, would one get + CoV faction for it, or does one only get + with Coldain and/or Dain for gettin the hits of Tormax? Hehe also, are there any uber guilds out there on Ayoane Ro server that i could perhaps leach a faction hit off tormax from?
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No, Tormax gives + Dain/Yelinak faction
I have to think it would. Though my preferred method is to be outside Thurgadin durring the ring war and give a shot at each giant you can. Though there is a MAJOR lag problem durring the war.
Anonymous
I have app with CoV and skyshrine after going on one raid with my guild for prob 8 hours in the arena. was wondering if i could run through all of skyshrine and even get to the dragon and say hello to him. Also if you are app with CoV can you run through temple of veeshan or is that different faction?
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No. You cannot run up to Yelinak and say hello to him. He is on his own faction (Yelinak faction - dahh), which can only be improved via quests. I've heard you can also get +Yelinak for getting faction off Tormax, but not sure about that. I've not been to ToV yet, but I doubt everything there is safe as well, since you have to kill dragons there to get SS quest armor.
Anonymous
For all lvl 49-50 druids easy way to raise your faction to Coldain and CoV is quadding those frost giants, savage giants, kromrif guards or whatever in Eastwastes. Man i raise my faction to dorfs to ally in 5 days (4 hours a day) and oh thats ally even in wolf form :) but am not sure bout cons against dragons though, never been To WL yet...
I have spend a lot of time trying to raise Claws of Veeshan faction killing frost giants and have to say it is a pain, giants have a lot of HP and killing one takes a lot of time for a soloer. Add to that the medding down time and you will have a great number of hours (didnt calculate them cuz I get bored lot of times in the middle of the process and went to do something else, but at least 50 hours will be my guess) just to get your CoV faction to dubious.
Getting a group is a way to kill more giants in less time than soloing, so you can raise faction faster, but theres not always a group out there with a place waiting for you.
At the end of the process, when I was still kos to giants and just warmly to dwarfs, I figured out a way to increase faction much more fastly, soloing. Of course I have bonk my head for all the time I wasted before, but it is already done so ......
The method im talking about is simple, go to Great Divide, where most people go to kill giants and drakkel wolves, sow yourself and start running around snaring all the drakkel wolves and giants you see, snared they are easily outrunned so you will be pretty safe no matter how many of them you hit. After doing that for a while, just go to a safe place, sit to med and check how faction raise on its own. You will get all the faction hits for the giants and wolves the people out there is killing. I got A LOT of faction hits this way in an hour, by far much more than the ones i could get in a strong group, and finally raise to dubious with CoV and to ally with dwarfs.
Of course, you dont have to forget your manners so if the giant or wolf you see while running around has been pulled before you snare it, just ask the puller to snare it for the faction, nobody will say no to a free snare because it helps them a lot killing the mob and make no damage so they wont loose the exp.
Hope this help someone.
Asuran
Lvl 51 wanderer
E´ci
Getting a group is a way to kill more giants in less time than soloing, so you can raise faction faster, but theres not always a group out there with a place waiting for you.
At the end of the process, when I was still kos to giants and just warmly to dwarfs, I figured out a way to increase faction much more fastly, soloing. Of course I have bonk my head for all the time I wasted before, but it is already done so ......
The method im talking about is simple, go to Great Divide, where most people go to kill giants and drakkel wolves, sow yourself and start running around snaring all the drakkel wolves and giants you see, snared they are easily outrunned so you will be pretty safe no matter how many of them you hit. After doing that for a while, just go to a safe place, sit to med and check how faction raise on its own. You will get all the faction hits for the giants and wolves the people out there is killing. I got A LOT of faction hits this way in an hour, by far much more than the ones i could get in a strong group, and finally raise to dubious with CoV and to ally with dwarfs.
Of course, you dont have to forget your manners so if the giant or wolf you see while running around has been pulled before you snare it, just ask the puller to snare it for the faction, nobody will say no to a free snare because it helps them a lot killing the mob and make no damage so they wont loose the exp.
Hope this help someone.
Asuran
Lvl 51 wanderer
E´ci
14 posts
> After doing that for a while, just go to a safe place, sit to med
Um, where is a safe spot where the huge train won't come find you?
Um, where is a safe spot where the huge train won't come find you?
Anonymous
The mobs are snared, so just go run out of lazy aggro. Personally, i would go sit near the enterence to thurg, you should be far enough away that the giants will not come after you, but as long as you stay in the zone, you will get the faction hit when they die.
Anonymous
Thank you,
very useful info! :D
Zenofex Nightwolf
Outrider,
Erollisi Marr
very useful info! :D
Zenofex Nightwolf
Outrider,
Erollisi Marr
13 posts
during all that downtime medding you could have been working on skills to do the prayer shawl quests those will also reason your faction for Coldain don't remember off hand if it does for CoV though
Edited, Mon Sep 23 14:53:55 2002
Edited, Mon Sep 23 14:53:55 2002
Anonymous
Easy way to get COV faction is to be in GD when the 10th ring war is going on and run around and whack all the giants one for faction. No one will care and I went from KOS to warmly in Skyshrine in one war. Granted you gaint faction goes to hell, but who cares? =)
Anonymous
King tormax does not give COV faction!!! I thought it did and died twice, then got the faction from him and the one in the CoV spot is Dain IV something. Talk about mad Lol
Anonymous
It's really not that hard. I started one day threatheningly with CoV and me and a necro (im a 54 enchanter) fear kited the bank area along the ramp up to Arena and got some great exp and of course faction and faction turn in items. We got some more people along and eventually we went to Arena with 1 group, 1 SK, 2 Necros, 2 chanters, 1druid, and a lvl 60 cleric and killed there forawhile. And when i conned in SS after turning in my faction items, i was amibly, almost kindly and i was in KD for only about 4-5 hours.
BIG TIP:the 60 cleric used to be on Kael faction and was working on CoV. He was currently barely dubious to CoV and he heard a uber guild was doing Statue, so he went and tapped it, gated to zone, and waited and got the faction hit. He then ran to Rolandal and VOILA! instant ally!
Lunarius Dreamreaver
54th Enchanter of Council of Lost Souls
Karana Server
BIG TIP:the 60 cleric used to be on Kael faction and was working on CoV. He was currently barely dubious to CoV and he heard a uber guild was doing Statue, so he went and tapped it, gated to zone, and waited and got the faction hit. He then ran to Rolandal and VOILA! instant ally!
Lunarius Dreamreaver
54th Enchanter of Council of Lost Souls
Karana Server
#Anonymous,
Posted: Oct 22 2001 at 9:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Here is my 2cp start a bard who worships veeshan you start out threatening to dragons and Giants and indifferent to dorfs this way
Anonymous
The easiest way to raise ClawsofVeeshan faction is to hang around when your server's local uberguild is in Kael Drakkal. Mem a level 1 spell or use a Flux Staff (if Wizard) on every giant that is currently bashing on something other than yourself, and then when it dies you'll get all the faction hits. Really try to get King Tormex's faction hit, one or two of those babies and you'll be all set, :)
Anonymous
I use showeq, and with that you can see your factions in numbers.
Lowest = -2800
From -801 and lower = scowls
-800 to -501 = threateningly
-500 to -101 = dubi
-100 to -1 = appreh
0 to 100 = indiff
101 to 500 = amiably
501 to 700 = kindly
701 to 1199 = warmly
1200 and up = ally
Killing a random stormgiant:
CoV +5
Kromzek -10
Kromrif -5
Tormax -?
Killing a random frostgiant:
CoV +1
Coldain +5
Kromzek -5??
Kromrif -10
If you are at -2800 faction with CoV, (lowest) that means you will have to kill 2800 frostgiants or about 550 stormgiants... So it do take long time.
Right now im trying to get my CoV faction up from -2800 :/
Will be very hard and take long time as my guild is on Kael faction.
***** - A-Ro
Lowest = -2800
From -801 and lower = scowls
-800 to -501 = threateningly
-500 to -101 = dubi
-100 to -1 = appreh
0 to 100 = indiff
101 to 500 = amiably
501 to 700 = kindly
701 to 1199 = warmly
1200 and up = ally
Killing a random stormgiant:
CoV +5
Kromzek -10
Kromrif -5
Tormax -?
Killing a random frostgiant:
CoV +1
Coldain +5
Kromzek -5??
Kromrif -10
If you are at -2800 faction with CoV, (lowest) that means you will have to kill 2800 frostgiants or about 550 stormgiants... So it do take long time.
Right now im trying to get my CoV faction up from -2800 :/
Will be very hard and take long time as my guild is on Kael faction.
***** - A-Ro
Scholar
16 posts
Have a question and a comment. First my question.
Could someone please post the faction bonus or deduction you get on each giant? For example, what we get for a Frost Giant Scout +1 CoV faction. Dakkael Dire Wolves would be nice, or some type of information on what the bonus or deduction is. The original message was great, but would like more information on a mob by mob basis.
My comment is simple, I asked verant if showeq was considered cheating. They of course yes its cheating, but then I asked for a good website to find the above information and they refered me to allakazam where I find this article on infromation brough to us by showeq, or maybe not showeq. Either way, we would all love to have the information on faction; so we can have a better understanding of what to fight.
Thanks for any help, I appreciate it. This faction has been really rough on droods around the EQ world!!! hehe
PhantomStar
Could someone please post the faction bonus or deduction you get on each giant? For example, what we get for a Frost Giant Scout +1 CoV faction. Dakkael Dire Wolves would be nice, or some type of information on what the bonus or deduction is. The original message was great, but would like more information on a mob by mob basis.
My comment is simple, I asked verant if showeq was considered cheating. They of course yes its cheating, but then I asked for a good website to find the above information and they refered me to allakazam where I find this article on infromation brough to us by showeq, or maybe not showeq. Either way, we would all love to have the information on faction; so we can have a better understanding of what to fight.
Thanks for any help, I appreciate it. This faction has been really rough on droods around the EQ world!!! hehe
PhantomStar
Anonymous
for the post about the faction numbers....
what is showeq? cant figure out how to look.. also if -2800 is lowest.. is p2800 highest?
what is showeq? cant figure out how to look.. also if -2800 is lowest.. is p2800 highest?
#Anonymous,
Posted: Oct 22 2001 at 11:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you say you use "showeq" to see your factions in numbers. I tried this and it doesn't seem to do anything. Am I doing something wrong?
32 posts
So how is this faction calculated when in a group? Is it the same?
And, just a random question, what does everyone start with? I'm an Iksar Shammy straight off the boat that has no giant kills under my belt, and I have no d00rf kills under my belt.
Dzaka
And, just a random question, what does everyone start with? I'm an Iksar Shammy straight off the boat that has no giant kills under my belt, and I have no d00rf kills under my belt.
Dzaka
You don't start out at -2800 do you?
Scholar
16 posts
No, not everyone starts out at NEG 2800. Also, I think they changed the range, I believe the new LOWEST faction is -5000. I do not have Showeq, but this is what I have heard around the Karana server.
Hope this helps,
PhantomStar Devoted
53 - Half Elf, Drood
Karana Server
Hope this helps,
PhantomStar Devoted
53 - Half Elf, Drood
Karana Server
Anonymous
Does ally with dwarves mean dubious with Cov, or less
Scholar
36 posts
No, you can be ally with the dwarves and still be KoS with CoV.
Best way to test if your KoS with the dragons I've found is have a druid cast wolf form on you. When you get to warmly with the dwarves in wolf form you will be dubiously with the dragons.
Best way to test if your KoS with the dragons I've found is have a druid cast wolf form on you. When you get to warmly with the dwarves in wolf form you will be dubiously with the dragons.
Anonymous
Come on folks someone mentioned it in a small post and everyone just ignores it. Killing the drakeal wolves in gd is the easiest way to raise the dwarf and cov faction in fact most people dont mind while the are killing them just to through in a lvl one nuke spell on there kills and you take the faction hit also. You will find many peeps on the rathe server doing this i just use a small sow or heal to the peeps low level to conserve manna and boom there you are a free faction hit not to mention who is gonna complain of any kind of heal hehehe. Why waste all your manna on a stupid giant when you can have 3 to 4 hits or more from lower lvl mobs try it you will like it. In skyshrine iam apprensive so i know it works.
They give alot less faction than giants probably
Yes, you'll get less of a faction hit per mob. But you'll get more faction hits per time this way, because they can be killed much faster.
Karazara Twoflower, 73rd rank iksar paladin of Tunare and Morrel-Thule (75th rank carpenter), Jaggedpine Defenders, Guk server
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Anonymous
i have put about 3 months into killing giants, and im still scowls with the dragons, is there a point at which faction is non-repairable with them?
Anonymous
I feel pretty bad for you man. I killed at the giant fort in GD for about 3 hours one night, and I am up to threateningly. Don't know what my starting faction is though, but a good group constantly pulling can give tons of faction quickly. Hope your faction starts going up=)
Zorantiz Mandragora
40 shaman
Zorantiz Mandragora
40 shaman
8 posts
Nope, you can still fix it. I was on Kael faction and had to switch to CoV/Thurg for my guild. I was rockbottom with CoV and now after several Arena raids and turning in countless merc assignments, giant helms, and toes, I'm up to App. Just stick in there and you'll get where you wanna be.
Fam
60 Leafblower
At Death's Door
Quellious
Fam
60 Leafblower
At Death's Door
Quellious
Famulus Natura
60 Leafblower/Treehugger
At Deaths Door
Quellious
60 Leafblower/Treehugger
At Deaths Door
Quellious
Anonymous
I've spent very little time so far faction building in Velious, but this is what seems to me the best way to raise CoV Faction (maybe not best or easiest, but fastest that I've heard of)
Started the Day at Amiable with the dorfs, and Glared at by CoV. Guild went on a raid in the arena area of Kael, we were there approximately 5-6 hours max killing mostly Giants on Storm giant faction. I made sure that I hit every giant pulled (or tried to) with a level 1 nuke while I meditated as needed. after that raid today, I went from KOS in Skyshrine to Amiable. Not sure how many giants that was, but rough figure would be 2-3 giants a minute (if that many) over the course of 5-6 hours. (even managed to get Thunder Etched Pauldrons out of the raid)
It just seems to me that the higher level the giant, the bigger the faction hit is.
Hope this info helps. :)
Oh yes, BIG Thanks goes to Immortal Mercy for having the raid today, it was a blast guys!
Finvarra Sidhe-A. Ro server
Started the Day at Amiable with the dorfs, and Glared at by CoV. Guild went on a raid in the arena area of Kael, we were there approximately 5-6 hours max killing mostly Giants on Storm giant faction. I made sure that I hit every giant pulled (or tried to) with a level 1 nuke while I meditated as needed. after that raid today, I went from KOS in Skyshrine to Amiable. Not sure how many giants that was, but rough figure would be 2-3 giants a minute (if that many) over the course of 5-6 hours. (even managed to get Thunder Etched Pauldrons out of the raid)
It just seems to me that the higher level the giant, the bigger the faction hit is.
Hope this info helps. :)
Oh yes, BIG Thanks goes to Immortal Mercy for having the raid today, it was a blast guys!
Finvarra Sidhe-A. Ro server
Anonymous
ive heard rumors that depending on what type of Giant and where u kill it u get more +cov and dwarf faction but my ?????? is which one gives the BEST + cov faction kos and need to get Ally fast
Since this is 2-1/2 years later, this won't help the guy above, but it might help YOU, the late reader. If you want to quickly max CoV faction, kill Storm Giants - those on Tormax faction. Become an Arena wh*re, and you'll get great Veeshan faction.
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Naz'gul Server
[UND WLK] Bmeph
[BEL PAL] Naitraen
[TAU DRU] Osceola
Icecrown Server
"It's always darkest,
just after the lights go out..."
Naz'gul Server
[UND WLK] Bmeph
[BEL PAL] Naitraen
[TAU DRU] Osceola
Icecrown Server
"It's always darkest,
just after the lights go out..."
Anonymous
I soloed Frost Giants in Eastern Wastes and the Great Divide for most of hell 45, all of level 46 and a half bubble in 47 to get to dubious with these buggers. A faction comparison for anyone out there trying this:
Coldain: Dubious --> Ally
Claws of Veeshan: KOS --> Dubious
Happened at the same time. A good measuring scale for checking CoV is Rolandal in Wakening Lands. He can't see invis so target him, walk out of sight and con him.
Painful.
Finnlander Lemenkainen
47 Druid
Seventh Hammer
Coldain: Dubious --> Ally
Claws of Veeshan: KOS --> Dubious
Happened at the same time. A good measuring scale for checking CoV is Rolandal in Wakening Lands. He can't see invis so target him, walk out of sight and con him.
Painful.
Finnlander Lemenkainen
47 Druid
Seventh Hammer
24 posts
I am conneed Kindly to Coldain... any idea if I am at least dub to dragons?
Zhargard Darkprayer
Anonymous
When I was kindly to da dorfs I wuz still KoS to Rolandol. Someone suggested that the higher the kill (or closer to thier home (e.g. Kael Drakkel instead of GD)) give you a higher faction hit. I agree with this person. I am amiable to CoV now. Really wanna get Ally
BriteLeaf FarWanderer
Officer of Boltthrower
Betrothed to Athenos
Wizard of the 44th Tower
BriteLeaf FarWanderer
Officer of Boltthrower
Betrothed to Athenos
Wizard of the 44th Tower
Anonymous
I also con kindly to the Coldain but I'm still KOS to Wuoshi in WL so I suppose the rest of the CoV won't like us either.
1 post
I really wonder about some of those things.
I killed about 500 giants in Kael Drakkel and stayed ally to them, yet when I went to Great Divide to kill Giants and Wolves over there, my faction with Kromrif & Kromzek swiftly fell to threateningly, but my midget & CoV faction hasn't moved at all.
Please gimme tell if find out a faster way to get up Thurgadin, Skyshrine, & Claws of Veeshan faction.
Odesseus Maximus -- 55 Warrior -- Drinal
I killed about 500 giants in Kael Drakkel and stayed ally to them, yet when I went to Great Divide to kill Giants and Wolves over there, my faction with Kromrif & Kromzek swiftly fell to threateningly, but my midget & CoV faction hasn't moved at all.
Please gimme tell if find out a faster way to get up Thurgadin, Skyshrine, & Claws of Veeshan faction.
Odesseus Maximus -- 55 Warrior -- Drinal
Anonymous
I have killed countless Giants and have gotten myself to a ally faction in Thurg yet I am still Threatingly to CoV. I suspect at LEAST 200 giants, maybe more to get Dubious. Just an eduacated guess tho..
Anonymous
Want to change your faction? Need dorf faction? Play on veeshan go to FoH tormax raid hit him once and wait for him to die. One kill of tormax will take you from scowling to warmly or ally in thurg. it's the same with dain. Playing on same server as FoH has SOME benefits... i suppose.
Anonymous
2 Questions, 1) is there someone that will have same effect with CoV faction? 2)Do Damage Shield yield the same Faction impact?
Anonymous
If it is YOUR damage shield, yes. If not, then you have to do actual damage to it with a weapon or spell, I believe is how it works
Anonymous
As a necro looking for something to hunt around 38ish I killed one of the male dwarves in butcher. Its been a while ago now but I could have sworn I took a neg CoV hit. If thats so wouldn't they be an easier place to check on CoV faction?
Anonymous
You probably took a Ring of Scale faction hit. The dragons outside of Velious are on that faction I believe.
Anonymous
sorry, budro, velious factions don't leave velious. you cannot take a faction hit in velious and effect anything in old world or kunark
Anonymous
Try hunting in the Plane of Growth and then going to the Tunarian cities of Felwithe and Kelethin and try some of the merchants. I promise you can mess your Tunare faction up in Velious and it will have affect in Antonica.
Pan
Pan
Anonymous
Well if you wana get technical PoG isnt reall IN velious, its on another plane of existance, granted the ent is in Velious. but all NON plane factions on velious can only be raised an lowerd in Velious
34 posts
Any of you warriors who are out there wondering which factions to work on in Velious, here's my 2cp.
Kill giants, and such till your CoV faction is good with Woushi, and Skyshrine residents. After this you can slaughter Dwarves all you want to get good faction in Kael. This way you should be able to get enough faction to travel safely through most of Velious, as well as acess to the quests for the two bests sets of armor in the game.
Like I said. Just my 2cp. Take it as you will
Vectinn
45 DE Warrior
Arcane Asylum
Drinal
Kill giants, and such till your CoV faction is good with Woushi, and Skyshrine residents. After this you can slaughter Dwarves all you want to get good faction in Kael. This way you should be able to get enough faction to travel safely through most of Velious, as well as acess to the quests for the two bests sets of armor in the game.
Like I said. Just my 2cp. Take it as you will
Vectinn
45 DE Warrior
Arcane Asylum
Drinal
Vectinn
78 DE Warrior
Drinal
78 DE Warrior
Drinal
Anonymous
GO to the wiz spires in the GD. snare or cast something cheap on the low level mobs around there. then let the tower guards do all the work. LOL
You get no faction modification if an NPC kills the mob, or if an NPC is awarded the kill because it did more damage than any player did.
Indeed, Nitramous is correct, but imagine the trains for that? *chuckles*
Anonymous
In another post someone said that dwarf faction goes up faster than CoV faction. I know it's not an exact science, but how much faster? 2x, 3x, 5x? Or *shudder* 10-20x?
I've just started conning warmly in Thurgadin. You could say I'm just barely warm (only a couple giant kills since then). About how high would my CoV faction be now? Again, I know it's hard to measure when you consider class/race/diety, but if someone experienced with the faction system has an idea I'll be a very happy wizard =)
I've just started conning warmly in Thurgadin. You could say I'm just barely warm (only a couple giant kills since then). About how high would my CoV faction be now? Again, I know it's hard to measure when you consider class/race/diety, but if someone experienced with the faction system has an idea I'll be a very happy wizard =)
Anonymous
This is what I've seen so far:
After killing 100 giants I went into Skyshrine to find that my faction had moved from Scowl to Threatening. I'm a DE Wizard/Sol Ro (though I don't think that makes a difference)
I'm wondering if anybody knows how many giant kills it takes for a virgin player to get to dubious. I saw that one guy post 2000 but I'm hoping the point comes a lot sooner.
Basically I'm trying to decide whether it's worth it to buy my portal spells in here or just camp/buy them in Great Divide.
After killing 100 giants I went into Skyshrine to find that my faction had moved from Scowl to Threatening. I'm a DE Wizard/Sol Ro (though I don't think that makes a difference)
I'm wondering if anybody knows how many giant kills it takes for a virgin player to get to dubious. I saw that one guy post 2000 but I'm hoping the point comes a lot sooner.
Basically I'm trying to decide whether it's worth it to buy my portal spells in here or just camp/buy them in Great Divide.
Anonymous
I would suggest refocusing your efforts. If you are high-enough level and in a large guild, you can round up 2 groups to hunt deep in Kael. Once you pass into the see-invis Storm Giant area, start killing giants (where the Thurgadin Quest armor drops). CoV will shoot up like a rocket, I averaged 2 full faction levels for every 8 hours in deep Kael. (not the easy greeny giants, the storm giants) After 3 raids, I have maxed out CoV at high Warmly.
Anonymous
If your faction with giants is bad is there a chance wuoshi won't attack you? Haven't seen her yet but sinc ei can port there (yes i have fang) be nice to know she not going to attack when i do.. anyone know?
Thanks
Cam
Thanks
Cam
Anonymous
Also I'm like at the top of the list with dwarves (warmly or whatever it is) but i think from reading I'm still screwed because i conned the guards in Skyshrine and they are ready to attack and this was before I kille dthe drake with the key to cobalt scar.. how the heck i got lucky enough not to see Wuoshi when i grabbed my tooth is beyond me
Cam
(thanking Karana for the luck)
Cam
(thanking Karana for the luck)
Anonymous
is it possible to bring ur faction in skyshrine up from scowling if i killed whisperwing 3 times and hunted DEEP(around the book that ports u to the courtyard)for 4 hours?
Anonymous
Yep, gonna take you a while.
Better start killin them frostie giants.
Better start killin them frostie giants.
Anonymous
Does anyone know if faction hits are greater in some zones that others?
Like if I kill giants in Kael will i get more faction than in Greate Divide?
Like if I kill giants in Kael will i get more faction than in Greate Divide?