Classes: The Paladin

Paladins - Icons of Virtue. The paladin combines the strength and battle prowess of a fighter with the healing and buffing of a cleric.

What is the best strategy for developing your paladin? Can a paladin be soloed, and if so, how? How should you play your paladin within a group? What skills should you concentrate on developing? What spells are most useful, and least useful? What armor and weapons should your paladin be seeking out?

Post your strategies on how to best play and develop the Paladin and read, rate and comment on what others have to say.

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#1 Feb 24 2006 at 10:21 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone have this aa yet? What are its advantages over the holy steed? Would like to know before i spend 9 aa's on it..
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#2 Feb 24 2006 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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No advatanges or disadvantages.
Just an appearance change.
SK's got a nightmare, paladins got a unicorn.

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#3 Feb 24 2006 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
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the links I posted on another board:

SK aa horse

http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/expansions/prophecyofro/images/screenshots/Nightmare.jpg

and Paladin aa one

http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/expansions/prophecyofro/images/screenshots/Unicorn.jpg

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#4 Feb 25 2006 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
Talk about lame... SoE takes away a mount that already looked different than evry other mount out there, then slapped a 9 aa cost to go back to having a mount thats virtualy the same except a horn slapped on its head. no fuction, no purpose - you'd think we'd get something that could actually help us for 9 aa...how retarded is that?
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#5 Feb 25 2006 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
The New horses are looking better than the others. The pally steed looks more like what a paladin would ride. The unicorn signifies valiant and true warriors of Faith. While the SK looks more like evil black nights should ride it. I'm only 51 and wont see these for awhile but i can assure you that i will get these AA's and represent the Paladin class well. As Should all of you Paladins out there in EQ land.

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#6 Feb 25 2006 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
All I can say is SOE hates us.... The shadownights get a sweet frickin horse, black with fire off feet and out of nose thats sweet, we get a unicorn, I can remember my sister playing witht these when she was young, why can't we get a white horse with a golden aura, or a white horse with some shining silver war armor. Any thing but a unicorn. Once I am high enough and have the aa's I am not going to spend them. I don't want to look like a pansy
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#7 Mar 04 2006 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
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A knight riding a unicorn makes little sense. In most lore, unicorns were untamable beasts, small, and seemingly not associated with travel or battle. The only application to the paladin seems to be the curing powers of the unicorn horn. Compared to the SK horse, the unicorn seems out of place. A Pegasus or some kind of white armored horse would be far more fitting. (See generally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicorn)

Furthermore, that many aas for simply an aesthetic change is nonsensical. The horse should have increased in speed or provided some modifier (i.e. a pally or sk on a horse is in a far better defensive and offensive position than not; or the horse could provide some sort of magical ability)

With this development, I'm surprised it doesn't cost aas to dye armor or remove a helmet graphic.

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#8 Mar 04 2006 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
The concept for the Shadow Knight horse is well done. The concept for the Paladin horse is quite off target. Unicorns are magical creatures, but very nature/forest oriented. A Dwarf Paladin on a Unicorn would look as if he/she car jacked a pixie or something. The new retail war horse bonus looks more like what a Paladin would have. Think Knights, jousting, armored mounts, colours of their homeland on the bridle. It would be nice if we could change to that model and still keep the speed of the Holy Steed.

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#9 Mar 07 2006 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
Yes I spent the 9 aa points and it does load quicker and run fastesr. Plus it does look different. I kick myself though,I could have spent my aa points on other items. But loading in 1 second is fast to get going quicker. All an all, I don't plan on quitting so I can always get more aa points and move on.
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#10 Mar 08 2006 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Load quicker ?

huh... holy steed is instant..well as fast as the server receive command and ask my system to load the modele..

anyone calc the speed ?
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#11 Mar 23 2006 at 8:49 AM Rating: Decent
I was a bit over-excited that we were getting a new steed. Spent the aa for it. I'm there with Mores that I could have better spent the 9 aa. Just about as worthless an afterthought as sony has ever given paladins.

"Well we are getting "anti paladins" a really cool looking steed that works well with roleplaying, don't want to neglect the true paladins, but don't want to make them look cool or anything nice either..."

I think it would be worth it if it did anything, something...like I pull on the horn and it shifts into overdrive. Adds poison resist would make sense if you read the wikipedia thing about unicorns. Anything at all really, but nope, just a forehead ornament that gets you ridiculed with the "my little pony" remarks. Not that I think it looks like that, it really is a fairly sharp animal graphic, but I can't understand the aa cost for it.

I will say that since I bought it I have fallen for 20k riding it about 8 or 9 times now, even going over the littlest of hills I get deathed by unicorn. Sucks when you are full buffed and heading to a grind. Then have to rez, and rebuff, and med back up. Even more timesink, that they arent ever going to fix, even though I personally have bug reported it (known bug) almost every time, and petitioned for XP back about 1 in 5 times.
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#12 May 16 2006 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
weird I tought the effect of this Unicorn is like with a safe fall not like the Holy Steed. Ive been running around Kunark zones (yes they are the best place to train jumping hills) and i havent seen a single damage when i fell off cliff. On Holy steed i died twice one at Western Waste and the other at Eastern Waste toward Kael yah try to jump that gap hehehe
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#13 May 24 2006 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
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The only real benefit that I can tell, is that there is no head in the way like the first aa horse.
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#14 Jun 07 2006 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
only thing these have over the first horse is the HORN,not any faster or graphic change or ?load time? these are just a status symbol which i wasted 9 AAs on and threw the hot key away and use my original mount which have the new graphics just the same without the freeking horn so unless you like the look dont waste your AAs cause theres alot more AAs worth getting i am almost at 1k AA and still wouldnt buy it.now the SK mount is a little better looking imo.i belive they either should have added more speed or how about a pegasus with lev or armor but a horn,only 14 year old girls still like unicorns this much
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#15 Jun 21 2006 at 1:39 AM Rating: Decent
Well I suspect it will be my last aa to get, right after First Aid. Frankly I agree that Sony hates Pallys. The only thing that came to mind was dang it SKs got an eagle and pallys got a chicken. Though I am intrigued by the idea of no head in the way, I had visions of having to look around a horn at everything. *sigh* think I will hang with my Holy Steed, he doesn't eat much. Smiley: lol

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#16 Jun 21 2006 at 9:12 PM Rating: Good
I hate using the word, but nothing else even comes close. This has got the be the gheyest thing to happen to EQ since...well, ever. What's next for the poor pally, a new heal with a rainbow effect? Glitter helms?
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#17 Jun 23 2006 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
There is no benefit from the unicorn accept public ridicule, if that is a benefit. If not mistaking, all mounts heads are not visible now. And the holy steed is just as fast as the vailiant. Assuming that the valiant and the sk's horse are the same. This was no more than a bandaid, from all that I have read and heard, they could not make the pegasus model work, so with little time they come up with a holy steed with a horn on it head. Which would of been fine if they would of not give up on giving us something better on a later date. Hell they could put some blue flames or something similar to the nightmare on the holy steed and i would of been happy,, just take the damn horn of its head!!
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#18 Jul 03 2006 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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could not make the pegasus model

there are pegasus models in plane of sky
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#19 Jan 08 2007 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
A pegasus would be perfect. Quillmane has been around since the beginning of time; so I don't see any issues with models in genral. They just need to work around the wings and the riders legs. All they have to do is keep the wings tucked in or have the wings cover the legs, etc. Levitation would be a nice addition, but it wouldn't be neccessary (lev on a horse is sometimes hard to lower down and could be fatal if you accidentally drop it). Besides, we just need a graphic change, there is no need to ask for more and push our luck. Something like this would throw us off par with SK's and start a battle.

If for some reason there is an issue with changing to a pegasus, they should have at least given us a particle effect to keep in par with the SK's Leave it to them and they would give us a rainbow trail. All jokes aside, they should be able to do something!

Isn't there some way for us to petition for the change? I think that nearly every class would agree that they don't want see this my little pony as it stands.
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#20 Jan 08 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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you can try with feedback and by posting about in the eqforums website but it's been in game so long now I highly doubt they changed it from a unicorn ever
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#21 Jan 10 2007 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
I have posted complaints on the "My lil pony" since day one. Sadly I have to agree, I don't think nothing will ever happen to it. So on the bright side, there is a few AA's that I can put to other uses like improve badage!!
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#22 Jan 11 2007 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I've had numerous people come up to me and ask if they can see my unicorn. I just look at them blanky and tell them that if i had 9 AA's to waste i'd find something better to spend it on, I wonder if SoE employeed a little girl, that would explain everything
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#23 Jan 14 2007 at 4:54 AM Rating: Decent
To say the unicorn is unpopular to 90+% of pallies is probably an understatement.

I don't see why Paladins couldn't have Fire on their horses. There is nothing "evil" about fire. It is a tool. Commonly used to purge or cleanse. We have has fire on most of our Epics!

We could have had a very similar horse to the SK's without as much complaints about the similarity than the ungodly gheyness of the Unicorn. Perhaps a white horse with Redish Gold fire from the hoofs and breath.

I would have rather seen the 9 aa go to the same looking horse with an attack or safefall or something usefull.

I am keeping the old one and they better not nerf it.

It's one thing to give us new aa's that we can choose to take or not. It is another to nerf the old hard fought for aa's/items/spells/expansions so badly that you HAVE to spended aa's/Plat/Plat/Dollars just to keep the strength that you already had.

So far my old trusty steed is worth every aa I bought it for. and thats all I need. I guess it's good for the Pallies that are a little light in the armor to come out of the closet tho... Not too many of them using it..I have yet to see one of these ridiculous steeds.
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#24 Jan 26 2007 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree with most of the posters here. That comment about "dwarven paladins on a unicorn look like they car-jacked a pixie" - ROFLMAO! Ahem.

While my pally alt is a long way from his steed, I can think of some things SOE ought to change about horses, long a sore spot with me.

1. Although a unicorn looks good for female characters, both male and female characters should have (or have the option) of the 9AA horse looking like a heavy warhorse, clad head to hood in plate barding, just like the knights of old. This would certainly project a more noble and powerful image for the paladin.

2. Allow the mounts to have a minor role in combat - like a pet of sorts. Allow the mount to have about 1/3 the levels of the character. A 60th level pally would have a 20th level horse, for example, and would fight the enemy with the knight mounted on it, just like a real warhorse would. Perhaps AA's could raise the level of the mount?

I would think the first step I mentioned, at the very least, would make the 9AA paladin steeds a worthwhile and desireable item to gain.


While I'm thinking about it, I'd like to say that only small races look good on drogmors. A high elf chick on a drog reminds me of a preppy rich girl driving a rusted-out '76 monte carlo.

It's even worse with the clockwork boars. Gnomes and dwarves ONLY, please. If I see another elf (any kind) on one of these things, I'm going to go on a killing spree in Al Ak'anon.

Just my 2 cents.
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#25 Apr 24 2007 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
Here is what im thinking - Make it a Pegisus that could give us lev. all the time!!

Just dont dismount wayup in the air!!
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#26 Apr 26 2007 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
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year, 2 months and this topic is still running lol
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