Classes: The Enchanter

Enchanter - the game's traffic cop. When the enchanter yells stop, creatures cease what they are doing and just wait to die. A complex class, enchanters get a variety of spells as well as a pet, and can be played in a number of different ways.

What is the best way to develop and play an enchanter? What spells are most and least important? Can an enchanter be soloed, and if so how? What skills are the most important for an enchanter? How should an enchanter be played in a group?

Post your strategies on how to best play and develop the Enchanter and read, rate and comment on what others have to say.

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#1 Jan 02 2005 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
i'm lvl 30 enchanter have pet spells and everything but i can not control pet.I wuzz wondering in the future am i gonna get a pet that i can control??
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#2 Jan 07 2005 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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You can get Pet AA's that let you control your pet just like most the other pet clases nec, mages, etc.

AA's are only available 51+
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#3 May 13 2005 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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I think this is Awful. Everyone else can control their pets but we have to use our AA's. Thats a load on crap.
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#4 May 13 2005 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
I agree it is crappy and even by the time you get high enough to get aa's you have a gimp pet anyways. Thanks sony if you realy want to help give us a pet the same caliber as necro!
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#5 Aug 28 2005 at 4:42 PM Rating: Decent
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oh lord... ok ok ok as someone who has played a necro for 2 years and just recently switched to learning the ways of enchanting im really suprised that you are complaining about your pet which SHOULD be used only in the early stages of life... remember you are the masters of CHARMING you can charm anything and everything and if ur good at it you wont die... and heres the good thing.. YOU CAN CONTROL THE CHARMED PETS!!!!. so please stop complaining about your class pet being uncontrollable when i for one as a necro envy the talents of good enchanters that KNOW how to use charm safely and wisely.
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#6 Aug 28 2005 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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oh and one more thing.... IF you could control your pet and they were the same caliber as a necro or mage pet... youd put all us casters to shame lol.... enchanter pets are a utility pet not a fighting pet... they should be used as defense only. once u get your control AAs you most definitely become the most powerful class in the game... even if u dont use the pet, enchanters are a force to be reckoned with
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#8 Sep 12 2006 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Chanter pets are good. But to a point only. As a chanter I don't use charm that much. I think it is a somewhat useless series of spells. As the mobs break free in a few moments and then come at you full force. You spend to much tim managing your pet. And not enough time managng the mobs. (Slowing, mezing, dotting, rooting, ect..), Many times I have died trying charm. Better is the Dire Charm spell. But this becomes useless too after lvl 47. And at the higher lvls you cannot use it effectively.
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#9 Nov 27 2006 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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charm useless???its dangerous if ur not used to it but i find it quite effective u just have to have good charisma the total domination aa's for it to become effective. any zone that doesnt have summoning mobs is cake for solo'n.

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#10 Nov 28 2006 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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On the subject of Chanty pets...

Charmed pets... hate them yet learning to love them. They really keep my mind busy!

Animation pets... after all of the different things that have evolved with EQ over the years, I'm really still not sure what is the big deal about not having any control over this pet (pre-AAs). The pet doesn't quite have the gumption or go-to as a mage/bst/necro pet and really kinda reminds me of an SK pet. So, what's the big deal in retaining this restriction of control? I say "Set Them Free!" = er, I mean, let me put a leash on them and tell them what to do! Lol.
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#11 Dec 31 2006 at 6:50 AM Rating: Decent
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You can purchase the Pet Affinity AAs at a higher level... I THINK they're level 61+ but I'm not certain. I bought mine at level 66. Check your AA window for details. They cost 4 AAs for level 1, which lets you tell it to Guard and Follow, 6 AAs for level 2, which gives it the Attack command, and 2 AAs for level 3, which is Sit, Back Off, and Taunt.


This is incorrect. It's 4 AAs for level 1, 3 AAs for level 2, and 2 AAs for level 3.
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I know why I can't get any Gallantry! It's just because I'm a Dark Elf, isn't it? Yeah, I see how you all are! "No buffs for the Inkies," right? "Dark Elves are all evil!" "Dark Elves smell funny!" Well, we do not smell funny! I've smelled Dark Elves all my life and it's nothing to laugh at!
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#12 Jan 05 2007 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I can't imagine charm being called "useless." I am able to solo almost anything at my level extreamly quickly with my charmed pets. Generally I true name one, tash, root and slow another, and then charge my charmed in. A DOT and a few nukes later, and he drops. Rinse, repeat. Usually my pet will loose 1-2 bubbles of life during this. Once my pet is down to a half bub or so of life, I wait the 2 minutes for it to break and then take him out too (generally I need a mana break by then anyway!) Its an extreamly efficient way for me to clear just about any good size area in under 10 minutes.

P.S. Unless you are suicidal, never haste your pet. Ethereal Rune usually keeps me alive once the charm breaks, long enough to mez him, but haste is just asking for those deaths we are so good at eating...

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#13 Jan 05 2007 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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enchanters charm is level nerfed and pet exp is droped you can't just debuff now you have to out nuke your pet for good exp and even so a groups get better exp now and all class now non melee class's have some form of crowd control now and with all the better gear who wants and enchanter in the group when you can get a healer class to slow, heal, bounce, root, weeken and have pets with control add the unbra gear for even low class if you have the pp and don't for get that 1/2 the mobs now can't be mezzed and most can't be charm and if they can they are 3 lvls lower then you add all that together enchanters went from hero to zero i have 2 ench one 70 one 68 and started another in combine you the only good quest for an ench is total nerfed you can't even work on faction because the faction line of spells do not work at all. i have no idea why there still in the game
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#14 Jan 09 2007 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
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enchanters charm is level nerfed and pet exp is droped you can't just debuff now you have to out nuke your pet for good exp

No longer True. As of TSS there is no longer a EXP penelty for Charm pets. They "take" the same exp as any summoned pet. You now need to do 1 point of damage (I think) for full exp, gone are the days of having to out damage the pet for it not to steal exp.
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#15 Feb 18 2007 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
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You are so, so, so, so, soooo incredibly full of it. Charming is used in soloing and at no other time. No experienced group has ever wanted me to charm anything, and with good reason: charming is dangerous and causes confusion.
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I know why I can't get any Gallantry! It's just because I'm a Dark Elf, isn't it? Yeah, I see how you all are! "No buffs for the Inkies," right? "Dark Elves are all evil!" "Dark Elves smell funny!" Well, we do not smell funny! I've smelled Dark Elves all my life and it's nothing to laugh at!
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#16 Aug 30 2008 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
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How do you intentionally break charm?
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#17 Oct 03 2008 at 12:38 PM Rating: Decent
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invis... i use my invis aa to drop a charmed pet

charming is what a chanter is all about...
i have all pet aas done and have the lvl 76 rk3 pet, and its still pretty useless
for anything other then given you a few seconds to recast mezz, stunn or root.

the nice thing about chanter pets that i find is in keeping the mob busy taunting and keeping agro while you dot the hell out of it... and then chain nuke after but nuken will get you agro and the pet wont hold it... even charmed pets dont taunt enough to hold agro so you can idly nuke away

I can solo Crystallos earth fire and ice np on my chanter by charming the elementals... nice xp too

enchanters are the most powerful class in game?...
I don't think so, or the game would be crawling with them and its not the case

The chanter class is the hardest class in game to master by far, but once you have it mastered, you got a toon that's by far the most fun to play...

get those defence aas done asap
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#18 Dec 12 2010 at 3:42 AM Rating: Decent
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On the subject of why we Enchanters cannot control our summoned animations until much higher in the game, I feel the important point is on the mindset behind the various classes.

Take Wizards for example. Wizard Pets are not even pets. They're Familiars. Wizard pets don't do much of anything beyond a resist buff and a fizzle buster. They don't attack, they only make the Wizard better at being a wizard. The purpose for this is that Wizards deal in Raw Mana. Wizards light their enemies on fire, freeze the charred remains, and then blow them up just for good measure. To a Wizard, a pet would be a waste of resources as there are much more efficient ways of converting Mana into dead people. Who needs a pet getting in the way?

Magicians are masters of summoning and therefor look at pets more pragmatically. With four animations and a wide variety of summoned gear just for them to use, A magician will tailor a Pet to the situation. Why go up against Nagafen with the same Fire Elemental you used against Vox? If you've got a person in your group who roots or snares, do you really need an elemental that will suck them into the ground too? This being said, it makes sense for him to have a Pet Heal; he's essentially resummoning the parts that have been damaged, keeping his champion in the game. Magicans look at an enemy and say, "Here's something special from me to you. I hope it fits, but if it doesn't I'll get you another... Oh, and it came with this full set of kitchen knives."

Necromancers are just morbid. A Necromancer is the master of the body and his pet is literally someone he just pulled up out of the ground - the reanimated corpse of someone who is better at melee than he is. To add further satisfaction to a kill, A Necromancer will siphon the hit points of his Enemy to replenish his own life, convert those hit points into mana, and use that mana to heal his pet, which then goes and takes even more hit points from the enemy in one long cycle of death and transference. It's the Circle of Life really. When a Necromancer faces off against his foe, he first points to his latest reanimated zombie and says, "It's like looking into the Future. This is the last guy who tried to kill me, and after I'm done using him to beat you to death, I'm going to use your bloated corpse the same way on the next guy. And if you're really good, I'll keep you around in Bazaar and the Guild Hall so you can breath heavy and annoy the crap out of everyone around you while I'm asleep."

But we Enchanters, we fine Enchanters, we are agents of subtlety. We fly under the Radar. Enchanters are masters of the mind. We make you think faster. We make you move faster (by increasing your reaction time and ignoring fatigue). We disguise ourselves under an illusion and convince NPCs that would have our heads on a pike that we are trusted allies. We steal our enemys' thoughts and fill their heads with dementing visions that drive them to insanity, while simultaneously reaching out and strangling them telekinetically (Darth Vader voice sold separately). When it comes to battle, we don't wade out into the fray, throwing mana after mana into an enemy, we find a pair of individuals and say to them, "I'm not certain I can take both of you on, so why don't you two fight each other and the winner gets to try and kill me." And the joy of it is, that works! We pit two mobs against each other until one is dead and the other beaten and bloody, then we finish of the straggler and walk away like we were never there to begin with.

So that being the case, why do we even HAVE the ability to summon animations? For that answer, look no further than the Tash line and our own Mez spells. A Tash spell is the Enchanter slipping into the mind of his foe and distracting him with the sound of a pack of wild, barking dogs, thus lowering his resistance (magic) to every spell we could throw at him (since all Enchanter spells, save Tash, are Magic or Chromatic Based). Have you ever actually looked at the spell effect for an Enchanter Mez? IT'S BUTTERFLIES! The spell says it's putting them to sleep, but the truth is they're DAYDREAMING, and we're just giving them something to stare at. The Color Flux line is the same way, a Ring of bright colors that distracts Mobs long enough for us to get a spell off. Which brings me to my point:

ENCHANTERS ARE WEAPONS OF MASS DISTRACTION.

That is what an Enchanter's Animation is for. We take a perfectly useless dagger, throw on an illusion to make it seem a lot more impressive, and telekinetically wield it against our foe. It's still the same crappy dagger, but it looks scary and it works great as a way to keep a mob's attention long enough for us to run to a safe distance and throw up another Rune. It's not a tank. It's not even a pet. It's a distraction. Enchanters have to work hard to learn how to make that distraction more effective, but even maxed out, with haste and buffs, it's no match against any of the actual Pets. Nor is it meant to be. Every time I see one of my fellow enchanters with a pet that has been buffed up like a mage elemental, I am caught between twin urges of pity for their poor economic sense, and laughter at their attempts to polish a turd. ENCHANTER ANIMATIONS ARE MEANT TO BE DISPOSABLE. They exist only to give the enemy something else to hit while the Enchanter renews his Rune or brings up a Gate.

But that doesn't mean Enchanter animations cannot be effective. I've found that Enchanters, given proper planning and execution, can solo rather effectively using an animation. It's slow, but again, we're a subtle people. We act in the background. We're not meant for wet work, we have warriors for that. Necromancers perform their Circle of Life dance until the enemy can't dance anymore. Mages build their Champion to fight a Mob and then summon a thousand small pointy objects to stab them with. Enchanters don't have any of those luxuries. Soloing as an enchanter is a simple matter of putting enough obstructions between you and the mob that your pet can kill it.

Start with Rune. It's like Free Hit Points without that disheartening loss of health bar. Runes require a reagent, so use when necessary if you have money issues. After you get Arcane Rune (self only, no reagent), you should get in the habit of having a Rune on at all times. Remember that if a Mob is beating on your Rune, he's NOT beating on your animation.

After that, Haste and Slow. Successful soloing is all about maximizing advantages. Keep your animation hitting fast and your opponent hitting slow. Debuffs are fun too, but I usually don't have room for them in my Soloing Set, so I leave them out. Besides, at later levels DoTs get their own Debuffs.

Scout your area. If you're hunting outside, know the general pathing of local mobs. Inside, keep to a tight section that lets you sit just outside melee range. Find a place in the map that keeps you away from roamers. This is common to anyone soloing, but for an Enchanter it's paramount since your Pet is likely not going to last you long. Use the animation's last few hit points to Root or Mez your opponent and make sure you have room to conjure up another distraction.

Play Smart. Soloing an Enchanter is about knowing your limitations. If you don't have the Mana to take down an opponent by yourself, you won't do it with an animation, since you're likely going to be standing there recasting Rune half the time. Keep the Mobs attention on you, so your pet can act accordingly, but have an out. Enchanters can keep numerous mobs mezzed at once in a group, but that strategy becomes less effective soloing. Try to keep it one on one. Make sure you keep Root up since you can't call off your pet and the last thing you want is a Fleeing Mob to stumble bloody and beaten into a bunch of his friends. A Train will chew through your Animation in one tick, so if you're not sure about a situation, keep Gate up as well.

Lastly, Take your time. Learn to Pick off the weak or the alone. This plan requires patience and you have to think differently. Unless you're in a Hot Zone and/or hunting things that "look comparatively weak," it's going to be slow going. More of a reason for you to go find a group where you can really shine.

Anyway, I got a bit off topic there. We Enchanter's don't get to control our animations from the start because they are not pets. They're distractions. If you want something you can teach tricks, Charm it.

Edited, Dec 12th 2010 5:03am by TAntoneus
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#19 Oct 16 2008 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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You are so, so, so, so, soooo incredibly full of it. Charming is used in soloing and at no other time. No experienced group has ever wanted me to charm anything, and with good reason: charming is dangerous and causes confusion.


No experienced group has ever wanted you to charm anything, probably because you suck. If you cant deal with the danger and confusion, just say you cant, dont say its unfeasible.

My experienced groups like the average 3k dps of a max hasted(haste+33% haste item), dualwielding(2 crap weps) pet.
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