Classes: The Magician

Magicians - Dealers of damage. With the combination of a strong pet and the second best set of direct damage spells, magicians can deal out some serious damage.

What is the best way to develop and play a magician? What strategies work best for soloing your magician? How should a magician play in a group? What spells are the most and least effective? Which pets are the most effective, and when should you use one type over another? What skills should the magician try to develop?

Post your strategies on how to best play and develop the Magician and read, rate and comment on what others have to say.

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Mage or Necro?
#1 Oct 03 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
What is better Mage or Necro?
1) Which is a better soloer?
2) Which is better in groups and more group wanted?
3) Are there another good quest for exp like the one for CB belts? Becuz I was going to get some CB belts to get me up to lvl 10 so save time in lvling.
4) Whats the best place to buy BST spells? In pok i checked bst and shaman and didnt get them all.
5) And How do u make Inc messages like Inc [name of monster], and [name of player] needs cure?
And anything else you can think of that could help me out in picking. Right now I have a lvl 16 Bst and like it alot but in case I just want to swich around some I was just wonder which would be better.

Edited, Sun Oct 3 15:29:30 2004 by Kogabar

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Edited, Mon Oct 4 07:27:04 2004 by Kogabar
Mage or Necro?
#2 Oct 06 2004 at 9:42 PM Rating: Decent
1) id hafta say mage
2) dont really know
3) dont know
4) PoK simple as that
5) type /g %T incoming...%t is how to get the name of oyur target

not too much help but sum is better then none
Mage or Necro?
#3 Oct 07 2004 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
I said I checked Pok and they dont have all the bst spells.
Mage or Necro?
#4 Oct 09 2004 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
Perhaps you should try using the spells link on the left side of the page and maybe ask about beastlord spells in the beastlord forum.
Mage or Necro?
#5 Oct 14 2004 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
Which class is better neither all class have weakness and strengths.
1) Necro's have a slight advantage with Lifetap line of spells and Dark Pact
2) Tied the mage is liked for DD and summoning toys Necro for snaring and DOT
3) Could always do DF belts in Freeport
4) What does this have to do with questions 1-3?
5) /g %t incoming, /g %T needs Cure, /assist %T is another help command
Mage or Necro?
#6 Oct 17 2004 at 10:52 AM Rating: Default
BOTH ARE GOOD BOTH ARE BAD MAGE GET 4 DIFFERENT PET SPELLS NECRO 1 THAT I KNOW OF BUT WHAT DO I KNOW IM A WIZZY MAGE BUFF IM NOT INTO THE LIZARDS EITHER (2)I WOULD SAY MAGE BEST SOLOER (3) PROBLY NECRO BETTER GROUP AND GROUP WANTED CUZ MAGE DONT GET THAT HIGH OF DAMAGE SPELLS TILL HIGHER LVL 15-20 NECRO CAN MELLEE REAL GOOD TO BUT HARD TOO FIND A GREAT MELEE WEAPON FOR NECRO (4) I WOULD EITHER SAY POK PERSONALLY BUT YOUR HOME ZONE (TOWN) COULD HAVE SOME TOO (5) IM GOOD AT EQ BUT I DONT KNOW :)? BOTH HAVE ADVATAGES AND DISADVANTAGES I WOULD MAKE A MAGE AND SEE WHICH ONE YOU LIKE BETTER
Mage or Necro?
#7 Oct 19 2004 at 8:19 AM Rating: Default
mage all of the way
Mage or Necro?
#8 Nov 20 2004 at 6:48 PM Rating: Decent
hey try not to use all caps man.. EVAQUESTMASTA


Mahoney, Level 40 mag
Rodcet Nife Server

Edited, Sat Nov 20 18:50:27 2004 by Dengledarf
Mage or Necro?
#9 Jan 16 2005 at 2:59 PM Rating: Decent
Necros are better soloers hands down. Mage better in grps, but not even close soloing, especially later on.
Mage or Necro?
#10 Jan 17 2005 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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1) Again, and see my other post on this topic, the two are about balanced.

2) Depends on the group level/your equipment/your aa/and most importantly your reputation. heh.

3) Yes. Mages also have the CB belt quest if ya make a gnome or high elf. Alternatively though all the classes have similar quests. Look em up in the newbie zone of your choosing.

4) From BST spell vendors. heh. Honestly, there should be a list under the spell section. Also there are websites dedicated to BSTS the same way there are ones dedicated to mages. The info's out there.

5) You do that by making a hotkey and typing in what the previous posters wrote down. The hotkeys are made in the social section of your interface. Can't tell ya how to get there as that depends entirely on what UI you're using. For most of them though it's (I believe) the 3rd or 4th tab in the section where it says sit/walk etc. Once you get to the right window, (the one with all the little boxes that say stuff), select a different social section so they're blank, right click one, make a title for it, type in what they said. From there you left click and hold on it then drag it over to your hotkey bank. Hotkeys are VITAL for every class. Bit off topic, but some of my favorites are 1./pet target 2./assist 3./pet report health, which targets whatever your pet is beating on, and gives you a short buff listing. The pet window is nice, but it takes way too damn long to get your mouse over there. Another nice one is 1./pet back off 2./pet attack (the #. indicates a new line btw) which switches targets for your pet. Comes in handy if you're doing Crowd Control, which happens unfortunately.

Forgive me if I dumbed that down a bit much, it's hard to tell what level you are play wise, so best to not take chances. eh?

Regarding the soloing thing, let's not make this into a pissing contest. There are things I solo that a necro can't. Likewise there are things necros can solo that I can't.


Hope that clears some stuff up =)

Faelawen Starfyre, the Legendary Mad Mage of Povar
Mage or Necro?
#11 May 03 2008 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
I woudl have to say the mage would kill a necro. Necros spells are all slow, but VERY effective...over time that is. And a necros pet is weak. Mages can nuke faster, harder, and a mages pet and slaughter a necro pet, then move on to the necro himself.=)
Mage or Necro?
#12 Oct 24 2008 at 7:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm afraid you're wrong. I have both. Necro spells are just as fast as mages spells. Yes, the mage can out nuke the necro. How exactly does the mage heal himself? The mage pet can beat on the necro all day long. The necro can tap directly from the mage, which can't be healed save players and pots. Once the mage dies, the mage pet goes too.
Mage or Necro?
#13 Oct 24 2008 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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1) Necro is the better soloer hands down. He can heal himself, very mana efficient if you're willing to take the time to dot rather than nuke, solos just as well without his pet (unlike the mage), and can FD if he gets into trouble. No question.
2) Depends on the group structure. High end mage pets can tank with the best of them if you don't have a plate class toon handy. Mages can also fireskin and make pet weapons. Necros can rez if the cleric goes down and have some of the best DPS in the game. Hard to tell.
3) Been a long time since I was less than lvl 10. Crescent reach is the best at that level.
4) Post that on the BST page.
5) %t
Mage or Necro?
#14 Oct 24 2008 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
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If the Necro casts fear on the Mage pet
bye bye Mage and pet. Pets have low resists.
Thats what we used to do on Rallos Zek years ago.
Pets still fearable?
Mage or Necro?
#15 Nov 13 2008 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
I would say its all personal preference.
1) The better solo class hands down is the mage. While i see alot of arguments that the necro is better dps, they can fd, they can do this do that which is absolutly true. However if u are high end necro or mage you are probally great soloers (with lots of aas). Outside of that if mister or miss necro decides to pull that all to common summoning mob and doesnt fire off that fd he might not do to well while a mage can handle the summoning mobs and the non summoning mobs. I noticed at lowbie level my mage was overpowered and i was easily killing things in hotzones that was taking a full group of the same level range to kill. Better in groups i dont think is even a big deal ne more, at least not on my server, bot armies lead the way. Check newbie quest for creseant reach any one can make that there home city and they have millions of quests. Even though this is the mage forum i have a bst and can tell u between the pok spell vendors your home city vendors and dont forget about the abysmal sea there are some spells specific only to that zone. Its reachable through the magus's located through out norrath the easiest being the one in the guild lobby. the inc message is on there already so im going to leave that one out. Now with that said i read in the last post that mister necro can fear the mage pet and that will end the fight right there. If u have actually used that successfully it was either way back in the day or used against people that dont know how to take full advantage of the mage. i have never once seen my pet get feared might have just been luck of the draw, however suspend minion u can just get rid of that one pop the other one and bango, or ranc servant to bang on mister necro, etc etc. Plus with all the things a mage can throw on his pet the only true way a caster can kill a mage is kite him. Trust me i duel my boys equal level and aa wiz all the time and he has decided thats the only way in an equal level and aa fight. The stuns an air pet with 1.5 or 2.0 plus chest from tss basically makes the pet stun at an unholy rate i like it but it could be seen as a slight unfair advantage. Either way i dont think any one should make a decission based on anyone elses opinions. My buddy hates mages swears wizy best solo class. Its all personal preference as long as u put the time into your toon u will have a great time in norrath regardless of race or class :). Oh and mister necro u would have to fear about 13 pets of mine before u could go right at me :P
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