Classes: The Ranger

Rangers - Master trackers. With the skills of both a fighter and a druid, plus some unique skills of their own, rangers can be very difficult to develop and have a number of different ways to be played.

What is the best way to play a ranger? Can a ranger be soloed, and if so how? How should you play a ranger within a group? What spells and skills are the most important for the ranger? How can you develop your ranger to be the most effective? What equipment and armor should your ranger be looking for?

Post your strategies on how to best play and develop the Ranger and read, rate and comment on what others have to say.

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#1 Oct 19 2005 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking about claiming the DoD Clockwork mount for my Ranger, and was wondering what you all think about Rangers on mounts. I mean, does it make sense to get one for the non-aggro sitting mana regen? A lot of times (when I'm not pulling anyway) I just sit in the back of the group, hit my assist key then autofire til the mob is dead. And I was thinking: why not sit on a mount back there?

And just to make sure (since I have ZERO experience with mounts), am I right in assuming that movement buffs (SoW or SoE) have NO effect while on a mount? (Does levitation work when casted alone?)

Anyway, I basically wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on the subject. If it doesn't seem to make ANY sense or difference for my Ranger to have it, then I'll go ahead and let my little shammy claim the Boar.
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#2 Oct 19 2005 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
You are correct; movement spells do not affect mounts (although levitate will).

In my experience, Rangers have very little need for mounts. That's certainly not to say that there aren't certian times they'd come in handy, but I've found those times few and far between. The only reason I could see getting a mount as a Ranger is if the dropped bridle was going to rot, you had millions of excess plat, or if you were one of those odd-balls that put all of his AA's into casting abilities (lol).

I would save the free mount for your shaman, or for another casting class if you plan to roll one. If you'd like to get an idea of what it's like to use a mount as a Ranger, you can do the Resurrection of Marnek the Wicked quest. The very first part yields a Ghostly Bridle, which can be used (once) to summon a horse. Fun, easy quest, and very old-school. Ironically, I carried mine around for months and never did try it >:( (note that if you want to carry it around like I did, you have to finish the quest; the first bridle is no-rent)



Edited, Wed Oct 19 16:14:00 2005 by Gladestrider
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#3 Oct 19 2005 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
At 68 you're past the spot I'd suggest a ranger mount (which would be lvl 62 headshot-aaxp'ing). Unless you're really into RPing a mongolian mounted bowman, give it to the shammie.
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#4 Oct 19 2005 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
Better for a pure caster if you have one you will play a lot. However in case you were not aware, you can med while on a mount, shooting arrows. Being able to do reasonable DPS while medding is a pretty nice deal, althought you may only end up using it after a rez.
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#5 Oct 27 2005 at 4:14 PM Rating: Decent
ranger on a mount?????wolf form>mount for runnin around.even sittin bak in a raid its still kind of a waste cuz ranger nukes are um......ya no.shoot ye arrow unto thine enemy and thank tunare u kik major booty in the rear with the gear.about ur shammy havin the horsey i dunno i thought shammys in their bear form regen faster???*shrugs*and ur sk gets one of the faster horses with aas so i say keep ye money and buy somethin siklylicious
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#6 Oct 27 2005 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
Hmm, Brushfire is 612 base with a .5 sec cast time. your bow damage better than 1224 dps?

Shammie-wise, sitting on a horse = sitting mana regen + standing hp regen / bear form was about 4 hp regen last time I checked.

Edited, Fri Oct 28 07:24:42 2005 by Brewnoe
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#7 Oct 28 2005 at 7:01 AM Rating: Excellent
I hate to agree with a post as incoherent and painful to read as Dioren's (kids: STAY IN SCHOOL), but he's right. If you're talking straight parses, Ranger nukes will never even come close to bow DPS (you have to remember that .5 sec is cast time, and that there's a much longer recovery time. Factor in resists, etc, and nuke dps is pretty poor). They have situational uses, of course, but again I've found them to be rare.

Edited, Fri Oct 28 08:16:33 2005 by Gladestrider
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#8 Mar 03 2006 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for leading me to this thread. I must be blind. I ended up using my /claim warhorse on my 64 ranger. I often trio with a pally and an enchanter. between fights I heal the pally to full life about 10 casts of chloroblast this was taxing on the mana pool even with good chanter mind candy. With the mount I can do everything I did before, but I don't ever run out of mana. I just wish the animation of the bow shots wasn't to the side. looks stupid to me, but not as silly as a ranger on a horse I am sure. i guess i just wanted to be a sucess story for ranger mounts. I wouldn't go back to sitting between fights if I could.
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#9 Mar 04 2006 at 3:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmm, Brushfire is 612 base with a .5 sec cast time. your bow damage better than 1224 dps?


there is a nice long recast delay to that... (yes its been stated but that bugged me) use it with Frozen Wind (lvl 63, 695 dmg) both on seperate timers and do 1307 dmg in about 2 - 3 seconds because of total recast time to cast another spell.. and that isnt counting partial or complete resists.. bow dmg does more than that, hands down!... EQ AM3 ftw!
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#10 Mar 06 2006 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
Just to clarify - wasn't suggesting chain-nuking (I assumed you'd be shooting during the recast delay), the 'dps' figure was just to point out that slipping a nuke in between shots might do more than just convince your group-mates that you're not hitting an 'autofire and afk' macro too often.

Glad to hear it's working out well for you Lakkof. Not so glad to hear you're getting stuck with the ghetto-dr00d job, but it beats spending nights afk in the guildhall hottub, right?

(Torn between a 'GD hippies' response to the 'no nukes' dewds and a 'GD Mongolians' line here)
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#11 Mar 06 2006 at 6:42 PM Rating: Decent
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maybe try rethinking what you type first.. your exact wording was "1224 dps" that would cause most ppl to think that you believe it is recastable as soon as its done casting, seeing as you said that much damage per second, now, if you are using that AND the other nuke i mentioned, its ok dps.. but bow is still better
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#12 Mar 06 2006 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
I disagree with most here, lvl 70 ranger and im SOOOO glad I used /claim on my ranger. Your right with your first post, once into the GoD and OoW zones the tank usually pulls more often due to incoming agro wooping our butts and if your going to sit and pluck away its always nice to have a horse, like in mpg, many new por, & dod DoN zones are outdoors and you can do this. Non rangers tend to think we dont need mounts until they want our buffs, snares, roots, plus our post 65 nukes do great dmg due to the low cast times, plus dmg shields once in a while etc. Add to the fact that we are the last class to get FT items from raids we usually have no other mana regen than C and mask of the stalker line self buff. Plus we have a small mana pool if your wis isn't maxed, and of course we focus on str, agi, dex, stam and of course HP way before focusing on raising wisdom. As you can see this adds up to a very poor perfoming mana based class and the horse rocks for keeping it up. In chain pull groups this can be the difference between being Fom or Oom at all times.
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#13 Mar 07 2006 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
Just noticed something while looking back wondering if the context of the 'dps' quote made it clear whether I was referring to sustained dps or burst dps (leaning toward I shoulda been clearer on it as a dps bump vs main form of dps) ...
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i dunno i thought shammys in their bear form regen faster???*shrugs*and ur sk gets one of the faster horses with aas so i say keep ye money and buy somethin siklylicious

What siklylicious item can you buy with the money you are keeping by not /claiming a free mount?
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#14 Mar 12 2006 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
Okay. First of all, a mount is an excellent idea. Who doesnt want an extra +15 mana regen while in combat?

You dont need the warhorse, or any of the more expensive monts, though. A 9k drog (yes, the slowest and cheapest one) is NO DIFFERENT than any other mount when youre sitting in the back of the group on /autofire... The movement speed issue isnt a problem, were ranjas :) just /dismount and you can trip the beastlord on the way -zooom- past them all LOL.

If youre going to /claim a mount for a ranger you should have used the roboboar (yes, the roboboar) cuz it's in no way going to be put to any better use on any other toon. But hey, thats just my 2cp.
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#15 Apr 29 2006 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
Aye if you plan on /autofire being on a mount is nice, when you are not pulling. Does nobdoy use Flame Arrows and Ice arrows anymore? Your mana dosen't get touched while mounted. And you can still throw in 3 .5 second nukes on your spell gems in case you need a little extra burn to bring a mob down. I woudln't pay for one tho. The benifit is small, in the fact that the times you can do this is limited. If you're pulling you need the run speed. If you are indoors and not pulling, well you can't summon a mount. If you are meleeing, and in a heavy melee group people will complaing about your mount giving problems with targeting, even though there is a nice little F8 key on the keyboard. Not to mention I can't see any mana difference when I have auto attack on. And unless they changed it (caster's realm is kinda outdated) you don't get benifit form sitting on a mount while using autocombat. But I know for a fact that autofire works for the medding. :-)
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#16 May 25 2006 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
WEll, I will say this first, I would be willing to bet that most people posting here have never claimed or perchased a mount and up untill about 2 weeks ago i hadnt either. That being said i wish i would have a lot earlier, it is very nice having a mount indeed, I am in a raiding guild and when there is a wipe it is very nice that when in outdoor zones you can loot your corpse and click a mount for medding while you rebuff the raid and so forth. When I do bow (which is becoming more rare as we move into newer zones) because of AE's and such or other reasons, I am on a mount, ranger's are not a pure DPS class, you cannot get great dps from hitting autofire or melee attack it just wont happen, however when you are doting and chain blasting (yes I said doting...it's worth it, parsing has proved that) you can pump out fairly good DPS but you need mana regen to do that. The other benifit is of course speed, I have the fastest mount which I combined with the warhorse making it a fast warhorse. It's much faster then SoE.

Now back to what i started off saying...I wish i would have gotten it coming up as a ranger (thru about 50-65) because of all the bowing we do coming up and because we do a lot less pulling at lower lvls.

Over all I would say YES rangers having a mount is usefull there is no dought about it I am very glad I got mine and would not resell it at this point, HOWEVER...NO it is not something you need or that would hinder your ability to play your class...thats a given.

Hope this help's somewhat, I just wanted to put in feedback as someone who got one.
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#17 Oct 19 2006 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
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There are three drawbacks to being on a mount that I have found... The first is no Foraging, and I Forage a lot. The second is no Bind Wound, though this is not much an issue at the end game with higher levels. The third is a mount can't be summoned indoors, which is a bummer if you like to solo dungeons.

One benefit that people might not be aware of is that falling damage goes away on a mount. Let's say you are in a very hilly area, and want to cross a zone quickly. If you SOW speed run, you will take falling damage all the way across, but on a mount, this doesn't happen. Has anyone else noticed this effect?
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#18 Nov 11 2006 at 10:26 AM Rating: Default
Well let me tell you something not having a mount during self buffs or for fear kitting early in life just makes no sense.This is a must for buffing times,solo times fear kitting and medding or just looking good with auto fire on eating a large combo pizza and drinking monster energy drinks lmao.Yes all my toons have high end horse i earned them all farming platium myself not buying platium off e-bay or toons for that matter.Im currently at lvl 51 with my ranger and have to tell yea between horse speed and instant gate potions i dont die unless linkdeath happens.Anyways anyone who tells you a horse is useless is just pure silly.It dont matter if you get a free one or a cheap 8700 plat one buy it you wont regret it.I have meleed from lvl 1-49 and now from lvl 49-51 i have been bow kitting get skills up quickly.I will keep hunting in outdoor zones fear kitting all the way to 65 easy if not 70 while im lfg.The only time i melee now is when im in groups otherwise the bow is being used solo.
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#19 Sep 30 2007 at 3:12 PM Rating: Default
Mounts for Rangers are only good for 2 things.
1) Pissing people off in the Arena.
2) Getting places MUCH faster then you would on foot.
As for combat. Your level 75, you should know by now Am3/Eq is NEVER a mainsource of DPS. Your expected to get in there and melee.
Unless you want to slack and just Autofire in back of group and they are okay with that. In that case, why would regening mana and hitpoints even matter? Since you want to be lazy, which is a common thing for the Ranger, don't cut yourself short, if you just want to sit back and soak exp and only bow, don't even bother casting spells or attacking. Just sit back and Autofire and watch the tellie.
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#20 Oct 01 2007 at 1:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Since you want to be lazy, which is a common thing for the Ranger


You bother to dig up a year-old post to make the poin that rangers are lazy?

And everyone with red hair is a psychopath? Finns all like to stab people with knives? Left-handed people are all ghey? All Cretans are liars?

Please, oh please, impart more of your endless wisdom upon us ignorant masses. I can't wait to hear the next pearl of profound insight that might come from your (rear) end...



Edited, Oct 1st 2007 11:54am by Whitman
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#21 Oct 03 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Mounts for Rangers are only good for 2 things.


Also if you are soloing mounts are nice, or how about doing damage after a rez while regenerating mana?

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As for combat. Your level 75, you should know by now Am3/Eq is NEVER a mainsource of DPS.


Again, what about soloing? Even at level 75 there are mobs that you can use the root/shoot method on that you would get your butt handed to you if you jumped in and melee them. So in that sense, archery would be a main source of DPS or you would be dead. Archery still has its use, while its not a "Main source of DPS" in groups, it is still a viable option unless you have way better weapons (in the range of 27 dmg 24 dly or higher). Even then it still has its uses.

Besides, I know way more lazy wizards, magicians, and druids than I do rangers. I am not saying they are all lazy, I've just grouped with a bunch that are; and yes I know that they sit and cast to do damage, I'm talking about the ones that sit there and cast one spell, then complain that they are out of mana for the next 5 fights. Don't make the assumption that all of a certain class is lazy because they aren't doing what you think they should.
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